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Re: Producing multiple -dbg packages using CDBS

2008-01-01 Thread Andreas Metzler
Nicolas CANIART <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I would like to know if someone could point me out the way one can > produce more than one -dbg package using CDBS ? (a package doing that > or some doc) > The changelog says it is possible as of version 0.4.38, but does not > provides any hints on how

Re: Editing the sources in "debian/rules clean"

2008-01-01 Thread Florian Weimer
* Miriam Ruiz: > 2007/12/26, Florian Weimer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: >> This the issue, but I think it could be more widespread. It turns out >> that the package in question (tar) was last uploaded before the >> autotools were finalized for etch, so the copying is not a no-op in this >> particular ca

Faster shutdown and the ubuntu "multiuser" update-rc.d extention

2008-01-01 Thread Petter Reinholdtsen
Did you ever curse that Debian took so long to shut down, waiting for all the shutdown scripts to complete before the machine was ready to move? Here is a simple recipe to help making sure your package do not slow down the shutdown. Most of the init.d scripts are simple scripts that during shutd

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Re: Faster shutdown and the ubuntu "multiuser" update-rc.d extention

2008-01-01 Thread Andreas Metzler
Petter Reinholdtsen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: [...] > To change the runlevel settings of an init.d script using the Debian > API, one most first remove it in the postinst, and insert it again. > To do this, add code like this in the postinst before the #DEBHELPER# > block: > if dpkg --compare-ve

Re: Faster shutdown and the ubuntu "multiuser" update-rc.d extention

2008-01-01 Thread Petter Reinholdtsen
[Andreas Metzler] > Is this acceptable according to policy? This will simply discard all > local customzations like disabling he service in a special runlevel. As far as I know, this is the official and supported way. There is no 'move' option in the update-rc.d API, so I am not aware of any oth

Re: Faster shutdown and the ubuntu "multiuser" update-rc.d extention

2008-01-01 Thread Joey Hess
Petter Reinholdtsen wrote: > Ubuntu discovered this a while back, and introduced a method to avoid > calling stop scripts in runlevel 0 and 6. It is the "multiuser" > extension to update-rc.d Why is this extension not available in our update-rc.d? As a bonus it could stop at sequence number 80 to

Re: Faster shutdown and the ubuntu "multiuser" update-rc.d extention

2008-01-01 Thread Joey Hess
Petter Reinholdtsen wrote: > > [Andreas Metzler] > > Is this acceptable according to policy? This will simply discard all > > local customzations like disabling he service in a special runlevel. > > As far as I know, this is the official and supported way. There is no > 'move' option in the upda

Re: Faster shutdown and the ubuntu "multiuser" update-rc.d extention

2008-01-01 Thread Russ Allbery
Petter Reinholdtsen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > [Andreas Metzler] >> Is this acceptable according to policy? This will simply discard all >> local customzations like disabling he service in a special runlevel. > As far as I know, this is the official and supported way. There is no > 'move' opt

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Re: Producing multiple -dbg packages using CDBS

2008-01-01 Thread Nicolas CANIART
On Tue, Jan 01, 2008 at 11:27:10AM +0100, Andreas Metzler wrote: > Nicolas CANIART <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I would like to know if someone could point me out the way one can > > produce more than one -dbg package using CDBS ? (a package doing that > > or some doc) > > The changelog says it

Re: Faster shutdown and the ubuntu "multiuser" update-rc.d extention

2008-01-01 Thread Petter Reinholdtsen
[Russ Allbery] > Shouldn't we add a move option to update-rc.d first rather than > telling people to do this? It seems like a generally useful thing > to have, and I don't like the idea of throwing away people's init > script order customizations. Well, I am not quite sure how it should work, bu

Re: Faster shutdown and the ubuntu "multiuser" update-rc.d extention

2008-01-01 Thread Petter Reinholdtsen
[Joey Hess] > The alternative would be changing the default for new installs, but leaving > existing installs as-is. Yes. That might be an acceptable alternative. > [1] Really it probably makes sense to explicitly stop xdm during shutdown > anyway, since that more cleanly shuts down X. How

Re: Faster shutdown and the ubuntu "multiuser" update-rc.d extention

2008-01-01 Thread Petter Reinholdtsen
[Joey Hess] > Why is this extension not available in our update-rc.d? As a bonus > it could stop at sequence number 80 too so we could transition to a > better order for runlevel 1. I have not invested much time to implement that extension, as it would have to be first specified in the update-rc.

Re: Faster shutdown and the ubuntu "multiuser" update-rc.d extention

2008-01-01 Thread Colin Watson
On Wed, Jan 02, 2008 at 12:13:13AM +0100, Petter Reinholdtsen wrote: > What about changing the default values for dh_installinit for a future > debhelper compatibility layer, to use 'start 20 2 3 4 5 . stop 80 1 .' > instead of 'default' when calling update-rc.d? Some packages actually do need to

Re: Parallel build results

2008-01-01 Thread Aurelien Jarno
On Sat, Dec 01, 2007 at 09:21:33PM -0500, Daniel Schepler wrote: > I finally got through the test builds of all the source packages in sid for > i386 using dpkg-buildpackage -j3 on a dual core machine. The results as > before are at http://people.debian.org/~schepler/build-logs/bymaint.html .

Re: Parallel build results

2008-01-01 Thread Aurelien Jarno
On Sat, Dec 01, 2007 at 09:21:33PM -0500, Daniel Schepler wrote: > I finally got through the test builds of all the source packages in sid for > i386 using dpkg-buildpackage -j3 on a dual core machine. The results as > before are at http://people.debian.org/~schepler/build-logs/bymaint.html .

Re: Faster shutdown and the ubuntu "multiuser" update-rc.d extention

2008-01-01 Thread Petter Reinholdtsen
[Colin Watson] > Some packages actually do need to shut down cleanly; in the case of > a database, for example, such a change could cause data loss. Thus I > wouldn't recommend changing the default, but perhaps providing a > more convenient single option to do that common task would be good. I be

Re: Parallel build results

2008-01-01 Thread Russ Allbery
Aurelien Jarno <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On Sat, Dec 01, 2007 at 09:21:33PM -0500, Daniel Schepler wrote: >> I finally got through the test builds of all the source packages in sid >> for i386 using dpkg-buildpackage -j3 on a dual core machine. The >> results as before are at >> http://people

Re: Faster shutdown and the ubuntu "multiuser" update-rc.d extention

2008-01-01 Thread Russ Allbery
Petter Reinholdtsen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > I believe it might make sense to change the default, if it only take > effect for a new debhelper compat value. Every maintainer is supposed > to check the effects of upgrading the compat value, and we could thus > expect them to check if their in

Re: Parallel build results

2008-01-01 Thread Aurelien Jarno
Russ Allbery a écrit : > Aurelien Jarno <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >> On Sat, Dec 01, 2007 at 09:21:33PM -0500, Daniel Schepler wrote: > >>> I finally got through the test builds of all the source packages in sid >>> for i386 using dpkg-buildpackage -j3 on a dual core machine. The >>> results as

Re: Parallel build results

2008-01-01 Thread Russ Allbery
Aurelien Jarno <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Russ Allbery a écrit : >> The effect of dpkg-buildpackage -j is to set DEB_BUILD_OPTIONS. The >> package should continue to look at DEB_BUILD_OPTIONS to determine >> whether parallel builds should be done. > As far as I understand, the main effect is

Re: Faster shutdown and the ubuntu "multiuser" update-rc.d extention

2008-01-01 Thread Steve Langasek
On Wed, Jan 02, 2008 at 12:17:54AM +0100, Petter Reinholdtsen wrote: > [Joey Hess] > > The alternative would be changing the default for new installs, but leaving > > existing installs as-is. > Yes. That might be an acceptable alternative. > > [1] Really it probably makes sense to explicitly st

Re: Faster shutdown and the ubuntu "multiuser" update-rc.d extention

2008-01-01 Thread Steve Langasek
On Wed, Jan 02, 2008 at 01:46:14AM +0100, Petter Reinholdtsen wrote: > [Colin Watson] > > Some packages actually do need to shut down cleanly; in the case of > > a database, for example, such a change could cause data loss. Thus I > > wouldn't recommend changing the default, but perhaps providing

Re: Parallel build results

2008-01-01 Thread Aurelien Jarno
Russ Allbery a écrit : > Aurelien Jarno <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >> Russ Allbery a écrit : > >>> The effect of dpkg-buildpackage -j is to set DEB_BUILD_OPTIONS. The >>> package should continue to look at DEB_BUILD_OPTIONS to determine >>> whether parallel builds should be done. > >> As far as

Re: Parallel build results

2008-01-01 Thread Russ Allbery
Aurelien Jarno <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On the other hand, DEB_BUILD_OPTIONS=parallel=n was ignored by packages > that have not been validated by the maintainers, and used by packages > that have been tested by the maintainer. Also it was possible to use > only on some parts of the build. For

Re: Where to put in Menu?

2008-01-01 Thread Russ Allbery
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Re: Where to put in Menu?

2008-01-01 Thread Martin Meredith
On Tue, 2008-01-01 at 18:32 -0800, Russ Allbery wrote: > Martin Meredith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > Looking over the lintian reports for katapult, I've noticed that the > > Apps/Tools section seems to be missing now from the menu system (yes, I > > know I'm a bit late - but better late than

Re: Faster shutdown and the ubuntu "multiuser" update-rc.d extention

2008-01-01 Thread Joey Hess
Petter Reinholdtsen wrote: > How does it more cleanly shut down X? That seem to be the logic > behind providing all the stop scripts in runlevel 0 and 6, just to > kill a process. There is nothing magic about sending a signal. :) xdm's init scripts stops it by sending a TERM, waiting up to 5 sec

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Re: Faster shutdown and the ubuntu "multiuser" update-rc.d extention

2008-01-01 Thread Joey Hess
Petter Reinholdtsen wrote: > What about changing the default values for dh_installinit for a future > debhelper compatibility layer, to use 'start 20 2 3 4 5 . stop 80 1 .' > instead of 'default' when calling update-rc.d? Then you'd have to use 'dh_installinit -- defaults' to get the non-default b

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Re: -Wl,--as-needed considered possibly harmful

2008-01-01 Thread Steve Langasek
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Re: Faster shutdown and the ubuntu "multiuser" update-rc.d extention

2008-01-01 Thread Petter Reinholdtsen
[Joey Hess] > Then you'd have to use 'dh_installinit -- defaults' to get the > non-default behavior of running the stop script. That's > counterintuitive. Well. As 'update-rc.d scriptname default' will have to keep its old behavoiur, to avoid breaking a lot of functioning packages, I see no othe