Improving the visibility of LowThresholdNMU

2007-07-11 Thread Lucas Nussbaum
Hi, The LowThresholdNMU wiki page[0] lists maintainers (and packages) for which NMUs are welcomed. However, in it's current form, it's quite useless: it's very difficult to check if a given package is NMU-friendly, since the page is not machine-parseable. Also, since it's not very useful and visib

Re: Improving the visibility of LowThresholdNMU

2007-07-11 Thread Reinhard Tartler
Lucas Nussbaum <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Hi, > > The LowThresholdNMU wiki page[0] lists maintainers (and packages) for > which NMUs are welcomed. However, in it's current form, it's quite > useless: it's very difficult to check if a given package is > NMU-friendly, since the page is not machin

Re: Improving the visibility of LowThresholdNMU

2007-07-11 Thread Stefano Zacchiroli
On Wed, Jul 11, 2007 at 07:24:21AM +, Lucas Nussbaum wrote: > which NMUs are welcomed. However, in it's current form, it's quite > useless: it's very difficult to check if a given package is > NMU-friendly, since the page is not machine-parseable. Also, since it's > not very useful and visible,

Re: Improving the visibility of LowThresholdNMU

2007-07-11 Thread Lucas Nussbaum
On 11/07/07 at 10:08 +0200, Reinhard Tartler wrote: > > (1) the list should move to a text file in a VCS. For example, we could > > use a special directory in the collab-maint alioth project, or simply a > > repository writable by all DDs on svn.d.o. This would improve the way > > history is kept t

Re: Improving the visibility of LowThresholdNMU

2007-07-11 Thread Lucas Nussbaum
On 11/07/07 at 10:20 +0200, Stefano Zacchiroli wrote: > > (1) the list should move to a text file in a VCS. For example, we could > > use a special directory in the collab-maint alioth project, or simply a > > repository writable by all DDs on svn.d.o. This would improve the way > > history is kept

Re: Please all dependency info into your init.d script

2007-07-11 Thread Petter Reinholdtsen
[Vincent Danjean] > What about circular dependencies that must be broken differently > depending on the admin configuration ? [Henrique de Moraes Holschuh] > You have your answer right there: let the admin fix it. Exactly. And the insserv system provides a system where overrides are read from /

Re: Improving the visibility of LowThresholdNMU

2007-07-11 Thread paddy
On Wed, Jul 11, 2007 at 01:16:58PM +0200, Lucas Nussbaum wrote: > > Another problem is that having a complex format will make syntax errors > easy, and it would be better to be able to validate the changes > immediately. So I thought of a VCS with the list, and a parser script. would it be practi

Re: Improving the visibility of LowThresholdNMU

2007-07-11 Thread Mario Iseli
On Wed, Jul 11, 2007 at 10:08:01AM +0200, Reinhard Tartler wrote: > That's a good idea, perhaps the PTS maintainers could comment what the > best way of integrating the information there would be? Would inventing > a header called 'XS-NMUs-Welcome: yes' in debian/control help here? Does > it make s

Re: Improving the visibility of LowThresholdNMU

2007-07-11 Thread Nico Golde
Hi, * Lucas Nussbaum <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2007-07-11 15:22]: > On 11/07/07 at 10:08 +0200, Reinhard Tartler wrote: > > > (1) the list should move to a text file in a VCS. For example, we could > > > use a special directory in the collab-maint alioth project, or simply a > > > repository writable by

Re: Considerations for 'xmms' removal from Debian

2007-07-11 Thread Daniel Jacobowitz
On Tue, Jul 10, 2007 at 07:13:03PM -0500, David Moreno Garza wrote: > Daniel Jacobowitz wrote: > > When last I looked (some time ago), none of the different XMMS > > successors were ready for prime time. Are bmpx, audacious, and xmms2 > > all usable now? > > What's exactly a XMMS successor? All

Re: Considerations for 'xmms' removal from Debian

2007-07-11 Thread William Pitcock
José Miguel Parrella Romero gmail.com> writes: > > The maintainers of the xmms package in Debian are proposing the removal > of the aforementioned package. Please read on. > > 1. Rationale > > * Upstream has deprecated development and support for the current > version of XMMS. > * Several part

Re: Considerations for 'xmms' removal from Debian

2007-07-11 Thread William Pitcock
Andreas Tille rki.de> writes: > > On Sun, 8 Jul 2007, Thomas Viehmann wrote: > > > Removing the package from Debian will not affect current users that > > much, > > While I perfectly agree that there are replacements for xmms that at > first view look like a new version (for instnce audacious

Re: Considerations for 'xmms' removal from Debian

2007-07-11 Thread Frank Lichtenheld
On Wed, Jul 11, 2007 at 02:40:53PM +, William Pitcock wrote: > Andreas Tille rki.de> writes: > > I think xmms is to wide spread as that we just could wild guess how > > many users are affected and how they could cope with this. > > Somebody will just maintain their own repo with gtk1.2 and xm

Re: Considerations for 'xmms' removal from Debian

2007-07-11 Thread Steve Greenland
On 11-Jul-07, 09:40 (CDT), William Pitcock <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > We are not an XMMS clone. Would you like us to remove the Winamp2 UI > to drive this point further? If this nonsense keeps happening, it's > exactly what we will be doing. Like it or not, your software fits very much into the

Bug#432747: ITP: python-rabbyt -- sprite library for Python with game development in mind

2007-07-11 Thread Miriam Ruiz
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Miriam Ruiz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> * Package name: python-rabbyt Version : 0.0.2 Upstream Author : Matthew Marshall <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> * URL : http://cheeseshop.python.org/pypi/Rabbyt/0.0.2 * License : LGPL 2.1 or any late

Bug#432751: ITP: python-pyip -- Python modules for assembling/disassembling of raw ip packets

2007-07-11 Thread Bernd Zeimetz
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Bernd Zeimetz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> * Package name: python-pyip Version : 0.7 Upstream Author : Kenneth Jiang <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> * URL : https://sourceforge.net/projects/pyip * License : Python License Programming Lang: P

Re: Improving the visibility of LowThresholdNMU

2007-07-11 Thread Don Armstrong
On Wed, 11 Jul 2007, Lucas Nussbaum wrote: > I can't find how I can get the full history of LowThresholdNMU, > which could be a problem in case of abuse. http://wiki.debian.org/LowThresholdNmu?action=info shows most of the history, and all of it is present and diffable. > Another problem is that

Re: Improving the visibility of LowThresholdNMU

2007-07-11 Thread Lucas Nussbaum
On 11/07/07 at 12:29 -0700, Don Armstrong wrote: > On Wed, 11 Jul 2007, Lucas Nussbaum wrote: > > I can't find how I can get the full history of LowThresholdNMU, > > which could be a problem in case of abuse. > > http://wiki.debian.org/LowThresholdNmu?action=info shows most of the > history, and a

Re: Improving the visibility of LowThresholdNMU

2007-07-11 Thread Pierre Habouzit
On Wed, Jul 11, 2007 at 07:24:21AM +, Lucas Nussbaum wrote: > Hi, > > The LowThresholdNMU wiki page[0] lists maintainers (and packages) for > which NMUs are welcomed. IMHO this should be the default for everyone without exception, and I feel sorry we need such a page. I mean, there is tw

Bug#432773: ITP: javahelp2 -- Java based help system

2007-07-11 Thread Michael Koch
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Michael Koch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> * Package name: javahelp2 Version : 2.0.05 Upstream Author : Sun Microsystems, Inc. * URL : http://javahelp.dev.java.net * License : GPL Programming Lang: Java Description : Java ba

Re: Improving the visibility of LowThresholdNMU

2007-07-11 Thread Steve Langasek
On Wed, Jul 11, 2007 at 11:23:07PM +0200, Pierre Habouzit wrote: > On Wed, Jul 11, 2007 at 07:24:21AM +, Lucas Nussbaum wrote: > > The LowThresholdNMU wiki page[0] lists maintainers (and packages) for > > which NMUs are welcomed. > IMHO this should be the default for everyone without except

apt-transport-https: transfer closed with outstanding read data remaining during update

2007-07-11 Thread Alan Ezust
Hi, I have a strange problem with apt-get over https:// protocol I built apt-0.7.2 from source, for debian etch, because apt-transport-https was not included in the repository. Most of the time, apt-get update and apt-get upgrade work fine over HTTP://, but what I've noticed is that after I chan

Re: Re: Release team structure (was Release Team Meeting results (the Juelich Edition))

2007-07-11 Thread Philippe Cloutier
* Filipus Klutiero ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [070616 20:46]: > Le vendredi 15 juin 2007 19:19, Andreas Barth a écrit?: > > Release team structure > > ~~ > > Steve Langasek, who served as Release Manager for the past two cycles, > > doesn't want to be on the hot seat anymore. As he i

Re: patch for versioned symbols in Heimdal shared library

2007-07-11 Thread Brian May
> "Russ" == Russ Allbery <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Russ> Out of curiosity, have you talked to Love about this issue Russ> already? Given that MIT Kerberos supports symbol versions Russ> upstream, I'm a little surprised that Heimdal doesn't as Russ> well, and I'd think that L

Bug#432794: ITP: haskell-syb-with-class -- Haskell library for generic programming

2007-07-11 Thread Kari Pahula
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Kari Pahula <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> * Package name: haskell-syb-with-class Version : 0.1 Upstream Author : Simon Peyton Jones, Ralf Laemmel * URL : http://hackage.haskell.org/cgi-bin/hackage-scripts/package/syb-with-class-0.3 * Lice

Re: Considerations for 'xmms' removal from Debian

2007-07-11 Thread Lionel Elie Mamane
On Wed, Jul 11, 2007 at 02:23:35PM +, William Pitcock wrote: > José Miguel Parrella Romero gmail.com> writes: >> The maintainers of the xmms package in Debian are proposing the >> removal of the aforementioned package. Please read on. >> * Other distributions have already discussed XMMS remo

Bug#432795: ITP: haskell-generic-xml -- Haskell library for marshalling values to/from XML

2007-07-11 Thread Kari Pahula
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Kari Pahula <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> * Package name: haskell-generic-xml Version : 0.1 Upstream Author : HAppS LLC * URL : http://hackage.haskell.org/cgi-bin/hackage-scripts/package/generic-xml-0.1 * License : BSD Programmi

Re: Bug#432587: ITP: camlp4s -- Pre Processor Pretty Printer for OCaml - classical version

2007-07-11 Thread Lionel Elie Mamane
On Tue, Jul 10, 2007 at 08:56:02PM +0200, Stefano Zacchiroli wrote: > * Package name: camlp4s > * URL : http://cristal.inria.fr/~ddr/camlp4s/ > * License : BSD > Question time: the license is BSD, but is not identical to the text > I find in /usr/share/common-licenses/BSD

Re: patch for versioned symbols in Heimdal shared library

2007-07-11 Thread Russ Allbery
Brian May <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >> "Russ" == Russ Allbery <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Russ> Out of curiosity, have you talked to Love about this issue > Russ> already? Given that MIT Kerberos supports symbol versions > Russ> upstream, I'm a little surprised that Heimdal do