Re: Bug#425050: initramfs-tools: Ask if we should update all initramfses

2007-05-20 Thread martin f krafft
also sprach Gabor Gombas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2007.05.19.1832 +0200]: > > Come on. `useless debconf proliferation'? The question has medium > > priority. I can also make it an configration option somewhere and use > > that, but it was just a convenient why to get info from a user. > > I'd also say

Re: Bug#425050: initramfs-tools: Ask if we should update all initramfses

2007-05-20 Thread Petter Reinholdtsen
[Gabor Gombas] > I'd also say a debconf question is overkill. People who understand what > the option means can edit a config file by hand. Remember that using debconf allow the setting to be preseeded during installation. Editing a config file by hand is less convenient for preconfigured instal

Re: svn-buildpackage etc., mergeWithUpstream, and dpatch/quilt/cdbs again

2007-05-20 Thread Marc Haber
On Wed, 16 May 2007 13:52:28 +0200, Magnus Holmgren <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > But since svn checkout doesn't give you the whole thing, how do you >prefer to work (especially with respect to creating patches)? Do you unpack >the orig tarball on top and set the svn:ignore property to ".", or alw

Re: svn-buildpackage etc., mergeWithUpstream, and dpatch/quilt/cdbs again

2007-05-20 Thread Loïc Minier
On Wed, 16 May 2007 13:52:28 +0200, Magnus Holmgren <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > But since svn checkout doesn't give you the whole thing, how do you > prefer to work (especially with respect to creating patches)? Do you > unpack the orig tarball on top and set the svn:ignore property to ".", > or a

Re: Bug#425050: initramfs-tools: Ask if we should update all initramfses

2007-05-20 Thread David Härdeman
On Sun, May 20, 2007 at 11:08:02AM +0200, martin f krafft wrote: Anyway, I propose that update-initramfs just loses the -k switch or provides a new wrapper that packages like cryptsetup and mdadm just call without worrying whether it will update all initrds or just the current one. I agree...us

Bug#425280: ITP: pynetsnmp -- Python ctypes bindings for NET-SNMP with Twisted integration

2007-05-20 Thread Stefano Zacchiroli
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Stefano Zacchiroli <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> * Package name: pynetsnmp Version : 0.25 Upstream Author : Eric C. Newton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> * URL : http://www.zenoss.com/ * License : GPL Programming Lang: Python Description

Bug#425278: ITP: libqsearch -- hierarchical clustering library using quartet tree reconstruction algorithm

2007-05-20 Thread Rudi Cilibrasi
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Rudi Cilibrasi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> * Package name: libqsearch Version : 0.9.9 Upstream Author : Rudi Cilibrasi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> * URL : http://www.complearn.org/ * License : BSD Programming Lang: C Description

Re: rampant offtopic and offensive posts to debian-user

2007-05-20 Thread Steve Greenland
On 18-May-07, 15:41 (CDT), Joey Hess <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Frans, Cord, Martin, Pascal, > > I'm writing the listmasters because reading debian-user has become > nearly unbearable for me (one of the sadly few DDs who bothers to read > our user lists) due to volume and offensiveness/repetati

Re: Bug#425050: initramfs-tools: Ask if we should update all initramfses

2007-05-20 Thread Steve Greenland
On 20-May-07, 04:08 (CDT), martin f krafft <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > also sprach Gabor Gombas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2007.05.19.1832 +0200]: > > > Come on. `useless debconf proliferation'? The question has medium > > > priority. I can also make it an configration option somewhere and use > > > th

Re: Bug#425050: initramfs-tools: Ask if we should update all initramfses

2007-05-20 Thread Gabor Gombas
On Sun, May 20, 2007 at 01:59:20PM +0200, Petter Reinholdtsen wrote: > Remember that using debconf allow the setting to be preseeded during > installation. Editing a config file by hand is less convenient for > preconfigured installations. But why would you want to install _multiple_ kernels in

Re: Reasons for recommends and suggests

2007-05-20 Thread Daniel Burrows
On Sat, May 19, 2007 at 09:52:44AM -0500, Manoj Srivastava <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> was heard to say: > A field in the control file is unlikely to have enough space to > truly state the reasons (remember, the maintainer has alsready stated > that in their judgement the packages belong togethe

Re: Bug#425050: initramfs-tools: Ask if we should update all initramfses

2007-05-20 Thread Gabor Gombas
On Sun, May 20, 2007 at 11:08:02AM +0200, martin f krafft wrote: > They can set their debconf priority. It's not something to avoid, > adding debconf questions. Debconf has a much higher maintenance cost than a config file - you have to provide translations, you must write maintainer scripts etc.

Re: Bug#425050: initramfs-tools: Ask if we should update all initramfses

2007-05-20 Thread Petter Reinholdtsen
[Gabor Gombas] > But why would you want to install _multiple_ kernels in a preseeded > install while _not_ building an initrd for some of them? I'm not talking about installing multiple kernels. I'm talking about setting the wanted configuration for how multiple kernels should be handled on the i

Re: Bug#425050: initramfs-tools: Ask if we should update all initramfses

2007-05-20 Thread Tim Dijkstra
Please cc: the bug report On Sun, 20 May 2007 16:35:27 +0200 David Härdeman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Sun, May 20, 2007 at 11:08:02AM +0200, martin f krafft wrote: > >They can set their debconf priority. It's not something to avoid, > >adding debconf questions > > > >Anyway, I propose that

Bug#425293: ITP: ocamlmakefile -- a general makefile for the Objective Caml programming language

2007-05-20 Thread Ralf Treinen
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Ralf Treinen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> * Package name: ocamlmakefile Version : 6.24.8 Upstream Author : Markus Mottl <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> * URL : http://www.ocaml.info/home/ocaml_sources.html#toc16 * License : LGPL Description

Re: Mandatory -dbg packages for libraries?

2007-05-20 Thread Wouter Verhelst
On Wed, May 09, 2007 at 11:28:49AM -0500, Steve Greenland wrote: > On 09-May-07, 04:02 (CDT), Wouter Verhelst <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I'm not entirely sure about the specifics, and especially not across > > architectures; but regardless, doing a PLT lookup is more expensive than > > doing a

Re: Bug#425050: initramfs-tools: Ask if we should update all initramfses

2007-05-20 Thread Mike Hommey
On Sun, May 20, 2007 at 04:35:27PM +0200, David Härdeman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Sun, May 20, 2007 at 11:08:02AM +0200, martin f krafft wrote: > >Anyway, I propose that update-initramfs just loses the -k switch or > >provides a new wrapper that packages like cryptsetup and mdadm just > >ca

Re: Bug#425050: initramfs-tools: Ask if we should update all initramfses

2007-05-20 Thread martin f krafft
also sprach Mike Hommey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2007.05.20.2102 +0200]: > That sounds to me like addressing the wrong problem. Maybe what should > be done is that update-initramfs updates *all* the images, whatever > happens, but a copy of the kernel and initramfs images used to boot the > system as i

Re: Bug#425050: initramfs-tools: Ask if we should update all initramfses

2007-05-20 Thread sean finney
On Sun, 2007-05-20 at 23:06 +0200, martin f krafft wrote: > also sprach Mike Hommey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2007.05.20.2102 +0200]: > > That sounds to me like addressing the wrong problem. Maybe what should > > be done is that update-initramfs updates *all* the images, whatever > > happens, but a copy

tool to turn redundant files into symlinks

2007-05-20 Thread Wesley J. Landaker
Hi folks, For a package problem I'm trying to solve (#414422), it would be nice to have a tool that could find duplicate files (ala fslint[1] or fdupes[2]) and turn them into symlinks. I could create something that does this just for this package, but does anyone know of such a pre-existing to

Re: Mandatory -dbg packages for libraries?

2007-05-20 Thread Steve Greenland
On 20-May-07, 13:41 (CDT), Wouter Verhelst <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Wed, May 09, 2007 at 11:28:49AM -0500, Steve Greenland wrote: > > On 09-May-07, 04:02 (CDT), Wouter Verhelst <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > I'm not entirely sure about the specifics, and especially not across > > > archi

Re: Reasons for recommends and suggests

2007-05-20 Thread Brian May
> "Don" == Don Armstrong <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >> But then you could just say: "Useful in case template databases >> get corrupted". There is no need to go and explain details. Don> If you're not going to explain what it actually does, why Don> bother writing it at all?

Re: Reasons for recommends and suggests

2007-05-20 Thread Brian May
> "Hendrik" == Hendrik Sattler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Hendrik> Perhaps. But first, but not all packages are actually Hendrik> strict about that and I do not want to bloat my Hendrik> installation and second, if it is really that important Hendrik> (read: essential part of

Re: Reasons for recommends and suggests

2007-05-20 Thread Manoj Srivastava
On Mon, 21 May 2007 13:38:58 +1000, Brian May <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: >> "Hendrik" == Hendrik Sattler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Hendrik> Perhaps. But first, but not all packages are actually strict Hendrik> about that and I do not want to bloat my installation and Hendrik> second, if it i

Re: tool to turn redundant files into symlinks

2007-05-20 Thread Philipp Matthias Hahn
On Sun, May 20, 2007 at 07:42:56PM -0600, Wesley J. Landaker wrote: > For a package problem I'm trying to solve (#414422), it would be nice to > have a tool that could find duplicate files (ala fslint[1] or fdupes[2]) > and turn them into symlinks. If hardlinks are okay too, see the "perforate"