At 1159290174 past the epoch, Jim Crilly wrote:
> The difference here is that removing exim4 and replacing
> it with postfix is a lot less work than it is Gnome->KDE
> since you can't just remove the 'gnome' metapackage and
> have all of Gnome be gone. If there was an easy way to do
> that I doubt
On Tue, Sep 26, 2006 at 06:29:25PM -0700, Russ Allbery wrote:
> > But folding it into shlibdeps at least would remove all those warnings
> > that were created by shlibdeps.
>
> What warnings were created by shlibdeps? I'm not sure what you're
> referring to here.
Sorry. I had a short look at so
On Mon, Sep 25, 2006 at 09:49:57PM +0200, Christian Aichinger wrote:
> As a start, I've written a script that searches for unnecessary
> dependencies and reports them. Results are available here:
> http://rerun.lefant.net/checklib
Excellent work :-). I didn't see a link to the checklib script itse
On Wed, Sep 27, 2006 at 11:09:37AM +0200, Michael Meskes wrote:
> On Tue, Sep 26, 2006 at 06:29:25PM -0700, Russ Allbery wrote:
> > > But folding it into shlibdeps at least would remove all those warnings
> > > that were created by shlibdeps.
> > What warnings were created by shlibdeps? I'm not
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On Wed, Sep 27, 2006 at 02:05:29PM +0530, Ganesan Rajagopal wrote:
> Excellent work :-).
Thanks :)
> I didn't see a link to the checklib script itself.
> Do you intend to release it some time? Thanks.
It's linked at the bottom of all the pages, the link points to
http://greek0.net/div/checklib.t
> > Sorry. I had a short look at some packages and all redundant
> > dependencies were created by shlibdeps. It doesn't seem to make sense to
> > have a list by maintainer when the dependencies weren't added by
> > him/her. Or did I misunderstand what this discussion is about?
>
> Yes, I'm afraid
On Tue, Sep 26, 2006 at 06:28:50PM -0700, Russ Allbery wrote:
> Christian Aichinger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> > Maintaining such information somewhere within the library package would
> > be possible, but that sounds like a more complex plan, and I doubt that
> > many library maintainers know
On Wed, Sep 27, 2006 at 12:50:07PM +0100, Mark Brown wrote:
> As a first approximation perhaps libraries with constructors or
> destructors could be assumed to always be required? That would be more
> conservative than required but perhaps so conservative as to be useless.
The problematic section
On Wed, Sep 27, 2006 at 02:57:16AM -0700, Steve Langasek <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
> On Wed, Sep 27, 2006 at 11:09:37AM +0200, Michael Meskes wrote:
> > On Tue, Sep 26, 2006 at 06:29:25PM -0700, Russ Allbery wrote:
> > > > But folding it into shlibdeps at least would remove all those warnings
> >
On 26/09/2006 Petter Reinholdtsen wrote:
> [Jonas Meurer]
> > unfortunately mozilla-plugin-gnash crashes for most flash pages.
>
> OK. If you got time, please add these test pages to the wiki. I have
> not been able to get the latest plugin to crash, so I am interested in
> these pages.
i must
On Wed, Sep 27, 2006 at 02:44:10PM +0200, Christian Aichinger wrote:
> The problematic sections seem to be .init and .fini. There are
> sections called .ctors and .dtors, but they aren't marked as
> executable.
.ctors and .dtors contain function pointers that are called by code in
the .init/.fini
Esteban Manchado Velázquez wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> As Javier noted just after releasing Sarge [1], we need better
> documentation integration tools in Debian. Yes, we have dhelp [2], but it
> lacks loads of features, and it's not what I would call "in shape" [3]. I have
> tried to fix this situati
Re: Andreas Tille 2006-09-27 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> The hint to non US keyboard is *very* important. I would love if
> *every* string a user (not a hacker) has to type at the boot prompt
> would work on *any* keybord according to its marking, which means only
> letters (no =_/ etc.) are allowed.
G
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On Wed, Sep 27, 2006 at 08:32:24AM +0200, Andreas Tille <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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> On Wed, 27 Sep 2006, Christian Perrier wrote:
>
> >"tasks=kde-desktop" is a bit rude to type (try it on a non US
> >keyboard...).
>
> The hint to non US keyboard is *very* important. I would love if
> *every* s
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(from a discussion in -devel)
> The hint to non US keyboard is *very* important. I would love if
> *every* string a user (not a hacker) has to type at the boot prompt
> would work on *any* keybord according to its marking, which means only
> letters (no =_/ etc.) are allowed. A "-" might work on
On Wed, Sep 27, 2006 at 06:15:39PM +0200, Christian Perrier <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
> (from a discussion in -devel)
>
> > The hint to non US keyboard is *very* important. I would love if
> > *every* string a user (not a hacker) has to type at the boot prompt
> > would work on *any* keybord ac
> Which reminds me [OT] that when I tried a d-i beta i've been deceived
> not to see the magic keyboard wizard i saw on the first ubuntu ; the one
> that asks to press some keys and guess the keyboard type based on that
> set of keys you typed.
Will probably be in the TODO list for post-etch but
Christian Aichinger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> What I could imagine was some sort of opt-in system, where library
> maintainers could put a special marker into their -dev packages
> indicating "yes, please remove me if I'm not needed, it's save".
> I'm not sure where to put it inside the -dev
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On Wed, Sep 27, 2006 at 10:54:34AM -0700, Russ Allbery wrote:
> > I'm not sure where to put it inside the -dev package though, perhaps
> > in an /usr/share/debhelper/stripdeps/ file?
>
> Well, if we're talking about an external tool to strip unnecessary NEEDED
> entries from the library, you could
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to
> run it or not. That doesn't help the folks who aren't using debhelper =
as
> much, though.
But isn't the decision of the maintainer to use dh_striplibs orthogonal
to the need for a library not to be stripped? That is, some set of
libraries presumably shouldn't be stripped out of NEEDED ent
ugh, somehow one of Thunderbird, Enigmail or my SMTP server mangled the
quoted part of my last email at Message-id:
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, maybe also the GPG sig. Sorry about
that! Everything I wanted to say went through OK though.
--
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WWW:
Jon Dowland wrote:
> Hm. If you installed the gnome metapackage with aptitude,
> then the dependencies would be marked 'auto' and removed
> once you'd removed the manual package at the top of the
> tree.
Or you can just tasksel remove gnome-desktop; tasksel install kde-desktop
> Perhaps aptitude
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* gerhard oettl <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2006-09-22 06:59]:
> Since updating to etch some weeks ago i was not able to print
> from firefox, because always letter format is requested on the
> printer panel. This happens independend of the input in the
> printer property fields in the printing dialog if
On Wed, Sep 27, 2006 at 11:08:24PM +0200, Tim Dijkstra wrote:
> Provides simple shell command line tools to suspend and hibernate
> computer that can be used to run vendor or distro supplied scripts
> on suspend and resume.
This is something like the fifth package in Debian that attempts to do thi
Op Wed, 27 Sep 2006 23:41:01 +0200
schreef "Steinar H. Gunderson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> On Wed, Sep 27, 2006 at 11:08:24PM +0200, Tim Dijkstra wrote:
> > Provides simple shell command line tools to suspend and hibernate
> > computer that can be used to run vendor or distro supplied scripts
> > on
This one time, at band camp, Tim Dijkstra said:
> Op Wed, 27 Sep 2006 23:41:01 +0200
> schreef "Steinar H. Gunderson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>
> > On Wed, Sep 27, 2006 at 11:08:24PM +0200, Tim Dijkstra wrote:
> > > Provides simple shell command line tools to suspend and hibernate
> > > computer that
On Wed, Sep 27, 2006 at 11:41:01PM +0200, Steinar H. Gunderson wrote:
> On Wed, Sep 27, 2006 at 11:08:24PM +0200, Tim Dijkstra wrote:
> > Provides simple shell command line tools to suspend and hibernate
> > computer that can be used to run vendor or distro supplied scripts
> > on suspend and resum
Op Thu, 28 Sep 2006 00:00:28 +0100
schreef Stephen Gran <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> Not that I actually object to the package, but why can't HAL let acpid
> manage acpi events? I am continually confused by the profusion of
> packages that offer to work around acpid in order to provide the
> functional
Op Thu, 28 Sep 2006 01:04:40 +0200
schreef Michael Banck <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> On Wed, Sep 27, 2006 at 11:41:01PM +0200, Steinar H. Gunderson wrote:
> > On Wed, Sep 27, 2006 at 11:08:24PM +0200, Tim Dijkstra wrote:
> > > Provides simple shell command line tools to suspend and hibernate
> > > comp
Jonas Meurer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> On 26/09/2006 Petter Reinholdtsen wrote:
> > That would be a bug in your X server. X servers should not crash
> > no matter the client. :)
>
> ... my X server crashed a second time, this time at an artist at
> myspace.com, which automaticly starts a fla
Mike Hommey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Well, users seeing q when typing a wouldn't continue typing anyway...
Unless they're one of the great many users who look at the keyboard,
rather than the monitor, while they type.
--
\ "I am an optimist. It does not seem too much use being anythin
This one time, at band camp, Tim Dijkstra said:
> Op Thu, 28 Sep 2006 00:00:28 +0100
> schreef Stephen Gran <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>
> > Not that I actually object to the package, but why can't HAL let acpid
> > manage acpi events? I am continually confused by the profusion of
> > packages that off
On 28/09/2006 Ben Finney wrote:
> Jonas Meurer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
> > On 26/09/2006 Petter Reinholdtsen wrote:
> > > That would be a bug in your X server. X servers should not crash
> > > no matter the client. :)
> >
> > ... my X server crashed a second time, this time at an artist at
Jonas Meurer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> On 28/09/2006 Ben Finney wrote:
> > Excellent. You're getting more of an understanding of how to
> > reproduce this bug in your X server. I hope that soon you can
> > submit a bug report against the X server with a test case.
>
> i'm not able to reproduc
--- Ben Finney <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> escribió:
> When you do, the 'reportbug' tool (which you can install via aptitude
> if you don't already have it) will make it easy to report a bug to the
> Debian bug tracking system.
Jonas has already filed some bugs against gnash. To be honest, I don't know
Hello,
On Mon, 25 Sep 2006, Christian Aichinger wrote:
> As Steve Langasek detailed in his d-d-a mail[1], unnecessary
> dependencies cause lots of problems, as they make transitions
> bigger then they need to be.
Sorry for the noise. I wrote earlier to Christian Aichinger
(and submitted a report
> Given that French keyboards have virtually no key at the "proper"
> place, that's quite hard to accomplish...
Evil Troll...:-)...let me jump into it.
The "only" keys in the ASCII set that are at different places in the
French keyboard are "a" "z" "q" "w" and "m". I added "y" to the list
becaus
On Thu, 28 Sep 2006, Christian Perrier wrote:
That still leaves 20 ASCII characters which are supposedly at the same
place on all keyboards (to be checked, though).
I guess that there are other language keyboards around that leave us
only 5 or 6 characters to choose from. So what about giving
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