El lunes, 3 de julio de 2006 a las 01:36:12 +0100, Matthew Garrett escribía:
> Ok, but it still needs to be modified. Are you suggesting that the
> freedom to produce a binary that can't be recompiled by anyone else is a
> necessary freedom?
I'd say that the freedom to use the program in any
On Mon, Jul 03, 2006 at 09:30:25AM +0200, Jacobo Tarrio wrote:
> I'd say that the freedom to use the program in any way I see fit is a
> necessary freedom.
Sorry, but the criteria for inclusion in main is the DFSG, not whatever
ideas people might have of necessary freedoms :-)
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El lunes, 3 de julio de 2006 a las 09:41:18 +0200, Steinar H. Gunderson
escribía:
> > I'd say that the freedom to use the program in any way I see fit is a
> > necessary freedom.
> Sorry, but the criteria for inclusion in main is the DFSG, not whatever
> ideas people might have of necessary fre
On Jul 03, Jacobo Tarrio <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Not the only criteria. People are very inventive when it comes to creating
> new software licenses with new restrictions which fit the letter of the DFSG
> because, hey, the DFSG say nothing about licenses that make you cut off a
> part of you
El lunes, 3 de julio de 2006 a las 10:06:56 +0200, Marco d'Itri escribía:
> It's this attitude of "DFSG is not restrictive enough, let's invent a
> few new restrictions which we like" that is screwing Debian (and our
> users).
You've got it backwards.
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On 7/3/06, Miles Bader <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
[Ok, I guess your autoconf script could guess that without being too ugly.]
and "pkg-config --libs OpenEXR" yields:
-lIlmImf -lImath -lHalf -lIex -lz
[Yuck... even when using shared libraries, library dependencies don't
seem to give -lImath,
>From DFSG FAQ Draft ( http://people.debian.org/~bap/dfsg-faq.html ):
Q: How can I tell if a license is a free software license, by Debian's
standards?
A: The process involves human judgement. The DFSG is an attempt to articulate
our criteria. But the DFSG is not a contract. This means that if yo
On Jul 03, Miriam Ruiz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >From DFSG FAQ Draft ( http://people.debian.org/~bap/dfsg-faq.html ):
This document mostly represents the opinion of the "DFSG revisionists",
so it's hardly a surprise that supports the "we decide what is non-free"
school of tought.
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Il giorno gio, 29/06/2006 alle 16.44 -0500, Gunnar Wolf ha scritto:
> Török Edvin dijo [Thu, Jun 22, 2006 at 09:23:32AM +0300]:
> > >kfmclient exec foobar.odt
> > What if I am using gnome? Should I use gnome-open then?
> > Ah, and how do I determine if I am running gnome or kde?
> > (look in the ou
Jason Self wrote:
> The listed maintainers for the Webmin package
> (http://packages.debian.org/stable/admin/webmin) and the associated
> packages like webmin-core, Usermin, etc. are MIA. They are not fixing
> bugs or responding anymore.
The package has been removed from etch and sid, alias testin
Package: wnpp
Severity: wishlist
Owner: Arjan Oosting <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Hi people,
I intend to Debian packages of uulib (ITP #36415) and uuagc. Preliminary
Debian packages are available from
http://moonshine.dnsalias.org/debian/unstable
* Packag
Marco d'Itri wrote:
On Jul 03, Miriam Ruiz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>From DFSG FAQ Draft ( http://people.debian.org/~bap/dfsg-faq.html ):
This document mostly represents the opinion of the "DFSG revisionists",
so it's hardly a surprise that supports the "we decide what is non-free"
school of
On Sun, Jul 02, 2006 at 11:57:50AM +0200, Wouter Verhelst wrote:
> Additionally, it puzzles me how you think a maintainer will be able to
> accurately predict how much RAM a certain build is going to use. There
> are so many variables, that I think anything but 'this is the fastest
> way to build i
When I encounter user configuration issues reported to BTS, I try to
close it by documenting it in README.Debian.
This works fine for "unstable".
But when this happens on "stable", I feel not kind to mark those bug
report as "wontfix". In many cases, it is FAQ and the answer is hidden
under obsc
Package: wnpp
Severity: wishlist
Owner: Fathi Boudra <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
* Package name: kwlan
Version : 0.4.7
Upstream Author : Thomas Michel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
* URL : http://home.arcor.de/tom.michel
* License : dual licensed GPL-2 and BSD license
Descripti
Osamu Aoki wrote:
> But when this happens on "stable", I feel not kind to mark those bug
> report as "wontfix". In many cases, it is FAQ and the answer is hidden
> under obscure location. I am not native speaker of English but the word
> "wontfix" certainly makes me think of ... "I do not give a
Hi,
I'm quite concerned about the poor quality of multipath-tools. This is
an absolutely vital application for many, required to even get a machine
to *boot*.
There are a lot of outstanding bugs:
* Fails to run kpartx when it should. This would have been detectable
with a trivial amount of t
Hello,
I maintain sim package - Simple Instant Messenger, http://sim-im.org/ .
The package is compiled with kde libraries. Users demand to create one
more binary package - compiled with qt only.
I would like to use 'sim' package name for kde version and 'sim-qt'
for qt-only version.
Is it ok?
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On Mon, Jul 03, 2006 at 02:45:18PM +0200, Fathi Boudra wrote:
> Package: wnpp
> Severity: wishlist
> Owner: Fathi Boudra <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>
> * Package name: kwlan
> Version : 0.4.7
> Upstream Author : Thomas Michel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> * URL : http://home.arcor.de/
* Andreas Metzler
| I think it would not be nice if funky-license packageX suddenly had a
| indirect build-depency on GPL software, simply because it is using the
| standard autoconf test.
Like.. gcc which is, more or less, the only compiler used for free
software, be it BSD-, GPL or otherwise l
Hi Reinhard,
> Perhaps you are interested in joining the pkg-wpa team on alioth [1]?
> We could share an svn repository and discuss best integration of kwlan
> into the wpasupplicant package in debian on the wpa-pkg-devel
> mailinglist [2].
thanks for the offer, but i have already uploaded kwlan
Package: wnpp
Severity: wishlist
Owner: John Goerzen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
* Package name: multipath-tools-initramfs
Version : 1.0.0
Upstream Author : John Goerzen
* URL : N/A
* License : GPL
Programming Lang: Shell
Description : Support for booting Debian
On Mon, 3 Jul 2006 15:04:14 +0200, Adam Borowski <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said:
> On Sun, Jul 02, 2006 at 11:57:50AM +0200, Wouter Verhelst wrote:
>> Additionally, it puzzles me how you think a maintainer will be able
>> to accurately predict how much RAM a certain build is going to
>> use. There are s
martin f krafft <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> also sprach Joe Smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2006.07.01.2110 +0200]:
>> Actually I agree that critical is too high, grave might be reasonable, as
>> it causes system downtime. (System downtime is something anybody running
>> servers would agree is a ve
Le 03-07-2006, Sebastian Harl <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> a écrit :
>
> On the website it says it's a cross compiler, that is to say you can produce
> code for different target platforms on one host platform.
>
> Maybe you should change the description to something like "C/C++ cross
> compilers and IDE".
Le 03-07-2006, Alexander Petrov <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> a écrit :
> Hello,
>
> I maintain sim package - Simple Instant Messenger, http://sim-im.org/ .
> The package is compiled with kde libraries. Users demand to create one
> more binary package - compiled with qt only.
> I would like to use 'sim' pa
On Jul 03, Roberto Sanchez <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Well, the DFSG was written by people. Additionally, most software
> licenses are written by people. It is no surprise that deciding which
> licenses actually comply with the DFSG is a process which requires
> people to make the decision.
Marco d'Itri wrote:
> Bullshit. The only criteria for defining freedom for the purposes of
> Debian *is* the DFSG.
Under a strict reading of the DFSG, I'm not sure how a license that
prohibits running the code would fail.
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Hello
On 7/3/06, Jason Spiro <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> The package is compiled with kde libraries. Users demand to create one
> more binary package - compiled with qt only.
> I would like to use 'sim' package name for kde version and 'sim-qt'
> for qt-only version.
I am a newbie here, but I a
This one time, at band camp, Thomas Bushnell BSG said:
> martin f krafft <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
> > also sprach Joe Smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2006.07.01.2110 +0200]:
> >> Actually I agree that critical is too high, grave might be reasonable, as
> >> it causes system downtime. (System down
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Marco d'Itri) writes:
> > >From DFSG FAQ Draft ( http://people.debian.org/~bap/dfsg-faq.html ):
> This document mostly represents the opinion of the "DFSG revisionists",
> so it's hardly a surprise that supports the "we decide what is non-free"
> school of tought (sic).
I'm th
Alexander Petrov wrote:
> Hello,
>
> I maintain sim package - Simple Instant Messenger, http://sim-im.org/ .
> The package is compiled with kde libraries. Users demand to create one
> more binary package - compiled with qt only.
> I would like to use 'sim' package name for kde version and 'sim-qt
Hi Alexander,
Alexander Petrov <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On 7/3/06, Jason Spiro <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> > The package is compiled with kde libraries. Users demand to create one
>> > more binary package - compiled with qt only.
>> > I would like to use 'sim' package name for kde version an
Package: wnpp
Severity: wishlist
Owner: Baruch Even <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
X-Debbugs-Cc: debian-devel@lists.debian.org
* Package name: cryptomount
Version : 1.0.1
Upstream Author : rwpenney«AT»users«DOT»sourceforge«DOT»net
* URL : http://cryptmount.sourceforge.net/
* Licen
Stephen Gran <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> It occurs to me that people who want servers to have their network
> configurations automagically configured for them are just asking for
> trouble. If this was a problem with standard ifupdown for a server
> interface, I would agree with you. But autoc
On Mon, Jul 03, 2006 at 07:47:26AM +0900, Junichi Uekawa wrote:
> > > Current work around is to reboot into rEFIt and run gptsync, and
> > > then run d-i from CDROM, and then configure the bootloader.
> > >
> >
> > could you please give more details about this?
>
> # apt-get install refit (w
[Jaldhar H. Vyas]
> Is this is a good idea for Debian? I think it is but it doesn't make
> sense to switch dovecot over unless all the other ssl-cert using
> packages also do it. Is this possible in the etch timeframe?
Yes, it is a good idea to make the SSL certificate handling in Debian
package
also sprach Thomas Bushnell BSG <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2006.07.03.2319 +0200]:
> I have in the past had a server on a local area network where the
> network administrators refused to assign a static IP address. But
> they would set things up to promise to always give me the same IP
> address every t
On (03/07/06 23:34), Petter Reinholdtsen wrote:
>
> [Jaldhar H. Vyas]
> > Is this is a good idea for Debian? I think it is but it doesn't make
> > sense to switch dovecot over unless all the other ssl-cert using
> > packages also do it. Is this possible in the etch timeframe?
>
> Yes, it is a go
This one time, at band camp, Thomas Bushnell BSG said:
> Stephen Gran <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
> > It occurs to me that people who want servers to have their network
> > configurations automagically configured for them are just asking for
> > trouble. If this was a problem with standard ifup
Em Seg, 2006-07-03 às 05:47 +0900, Osamu Aoki escreveu:
> Can we have tag like "faq" which we can use to indicate there is answer.
> Then BTS should count them as non-bug and they are best listed below
> normal bugs below wishlist. We should give solution to the problem when
> we tag them as "faq"
Stephen Gran <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Have you looked at the package description that this bug is about? This
> is quite a bit more than DHCP client. While I would be unhappy about
> having machines I need access to have their addresses assigned by DHCP,
> it is trivial to configure the serve
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