On 5/19/06, Jeroen van Wolffelaar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
[snip]
The software as distributed is complete, it has all the files in the
.deb packages, and the dependencies ensure that on the user's system the
software layout is like Sun requires, with the optional bits indeed
being optional.
[s
[Erast Benson]
> And thanks to upstream folks, 90% of OSS software is platform
> independent and just works.
Just to get the facts straight here. I compile and port free software
regularly to Linux, Solaris, Irix, HP-UX, Tru64 Unix, AIX and MacOSX,
and do not share your view that 90% of "OSS sof
I would like to thank all debian-guys for getting Sun Java into the
normal debian repository. I appriciate your effort, and I believe there
are many out there that think this is great!
I've briefly folllowed this legal discussion and I understand there are
details and stuff to sort out. Somehow I'
Am Samstag, 20. Mai 2006 12:01 schrieb Petter Reinholdtsen:
> [Erast Benson]
>
> > And thanks to upstream folks, 90% of OSS software is platform
> > independent and just works.
>
> Just to get the facts straight here. I compile and port free software
> regularly to Linux, Solaris, Irix, HP-UX, Tru
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I recollected my earlier experiments on computing package diffs, and
prepared a package called 'debdelta'. It is available at
http://tonelli.sns.it/pub/mennucc1/debdelta and also uploaded into
experimental.
This package contains both a command 'debdelta', to compute deltas of
Debian packag
Le vendredi 19 mai 2006 à 13:15 -0700, Alex Ross a écrit :
> Ideally though, there'd be an augmented policy of package acceptance,
> reflecting the fact that the packages with "Architecture: any" should build
> and run on one of the Debian POSIX-compliant systems. NexentaOS is
> certainly one such
Hendrik Sattler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Am Samstag, 20. Mai 2006 12:01 schrieb Petter Reinholdtsen:
>> So I would say less than 20% of the free software is platform
>> independent, based on personal problems.
> And the other authors cannot test on such system anyway as they often
> need spe
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On Sat, 2006-05-20 at 12:01 +0200, Petter Reinholdtsen wrote:
> [Erast Benson]
> > And thanks to upstream folks, 90% of OSS software is platform
> > independent and just works.
>
> Just to get the facts straight here. I compile and port free software
> regularly to Linux, Solaris, Irix, HP-UX, Tr
On Sat, 2006-05-20 at 07:38 -0700, Russ Allbery wrote:
> Hendrik Sattler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> > Am Samstag, 20. Mai 2006 12:01 schrieb Petter Reinholdtsen:
>
> >> So I would say less than 20% of the free software is platform
> >> independent, based on personal problems.
>
> > And the oth
On Sat, 2006-05-20 at 16:33 +0200, Josselin Mouette wrote:
> Le vendredi 19 mai 2006 à 13:15 -0700, Alex Ross a écrit :
> > Ideally though, there'd be an augmented policy of package acceptance,
> > reflecting the fact that the packages with "Architecture: any" should build
> > and run on one of the
Em Sex, 2006-05-19 às 17:52 -0700, Erast Benson escreveu:
> is platform independent and just works. And if Debian's meta-information
> introduces problem for package which compiles and runs just fine from
> out of upstream tarball on non-glibc ports than maintainer might be
> interested to fix it,
Em Sáb, 2006-05-20 às 08:07 -0700, Erast Benson escreveu:
> 14000+ (source ports) is quite a number and far bigger than the half of
> Debian APT repo.
Many of them are probably patched in the build process. I know that one
of my packages do get many patches on netbsd's pkgsrc, for instance,
althou
Hello!
On Fri, 19 May 2006 08:46:28 -0500, Wouter Verhelst wrote:
> On Fri, May 19, 2006 at 02:28:30PM +0100, Jon Dowland wrote:
>> At 1148052328 past the epoch, Wouter Verhelst wrote:
>> > Using popcon would ensure that the applications which most
>> > people prefer would be the default; this i
Le samedi 20 mai 2006 à 08:07 -0700, Erast Benson a écrit :
> > Please wake up. Debian is a GNU system and needs a GNU environment. I
> > doubt that more than half of the archive can build without the GNU libc.
> > This is the reason why the FreeBSD port started by porting the glibc.
>
> Let me ju
On Sat, 2006-05-20 at 12:37 -0300, Gustavo Noronha Silva wrote:
> Em Sex, 2006-05-19 às 17:52 -0700, Erast Benson escreveu:
> > is platform independent and just works. And if Debian's meta-information
> > introduces problem for package which compiles and runs just fine from
> > out of upstream tarb
Le samedi 20 mai 2006 à 04:17 -0700, David A. a écrit :
> I would like to thank all debian-guys for getting Sun Java into the
> normal debian repository. I appriciate your effort, and I believe there
> are many out there that think this is great!
This is surely good news, but there are many peopl
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On Sat, May 20, 2006 at 08:43:25AM -0700, Erast Benson wrote:
> > I'll agree with Josselin here: Debian is a GNU operatig system, not a
> > POSIX OS. If there are porting problems which are specific to Nexenta
> > and you want them to be integrated, you can provide patches. Or you can
> > port the
On Sat, 2006-05-20 at 17:54 +0200, Josselin Mouette wrote:
> Le samedi 20 mai 2006 à 08:07 -0700, Erast Benson a écrit :
> > > Please wake up. Debian is a GNU system and needs a GNU environment. I
> > > doubt that more than half of the archive can build without the GNU libc.
> > > This is the reaso
On Sat, 2006-05-20 at 12:32 -0500, Michael Banck wrote:
> We had a pure NetBSD port before, but so far no non-glibc port got added
> to the archive officially (but that doesn't mean it would get rejected
> if it was of release quality).
>
> IMHO a glibc-based OpenSolaris would certainly be the b
On Sat, May 20, 2006 at 11:51:09AM -0700, Erast Benson wrote:
> Do you really believe so? Do you understand that such a "hybrid" will
> not run any existing Solaris apps like you will not be able to run
> simple thinks like Macromedia flush player, JRE, JDK, Oracle, SAP, etc
> etc... Do you still w
Jeroen van Wolffelaar wrote:
> On Wed, May 17, 2006 at 11:09:30PM -0700, Don Armstrong wrote:
>>> (b) the Software is distributed with your Operating System, and
>>> such distribution is solely for the purposes of running Programs
>>> under the control of your Operating System and desig
Erast Benson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> On Sat, 2006-05-20 at 12:32 -0500, Michael Banck wrote:
>> We had a pure NetBSD port before, but so far no non-glibc port got added
>> to the archive officially (but that doesn't mean it would get rejected
>> if it was of release quality).
>>
>> IMHO a
On Fri, May 19, 2006 at 02:44:14PM +0200, Turbo Fredriksson wrote:
> Quoting Stephen Frost <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>
> > * Turbo Fredriksson ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
> >> But regarding the build system, I REALLY object to any major changes!
> >> Fixes yes,
> >> but not REPLACEMENT!!
> >
> > Uhh, o
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* License : GPL
Description : A collection of utilities and DSOs to handle compiled
objects.
Elfutils
On Sat, May 20, 2006 at 12:37:36PM -0300, Gustavo Noronha Silva wrote:
> Our Architecture: field is about the arches that Debian itself supports.
> If the meaning was broad as you describe, would we have to make sure our
> packages build on MS DOS?
>
> I'll agree with Josselin here: Debian is a GN
Matt Taggart and others <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Hi debian-dpkg,
>
> Several people have been working on a project we've been calling "multiarch",
> to seamlessly support running applications for multiple different binary
> targets on the same system. The main example being running i386-lin
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Roger Leigh wrote:
> Erast Benson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
>> On Sat, 2006-05-20 at 12:32 -0500, Michael Banck wrote:
>>> We had a pure NetBSD port before, but so far no non-glibc port got added
>>> to the archive officially
On Sat, May 20, 2006 at 10:12:24PM +0200, Kurt Roeckx wrote:
> - The license is now GPL for most files. The libelf, libebl, libdw,and
> libdwfl libraries have additional exceptions. Add reference toOIN.
>
> (This allow to link with any open source license approved by OSI)
>
> It contains other
On Sat, 2006-05-20 at 21:11 +0200, Steinar H. Gunderson wrote:
> On Sat, May 20, 2006 at 11:51:09AM -0700, Erast Benson wrote:
> > Do you really believe so? Do you understand that such a "hybrid" will
> > not run any existing Solaris apps like you will not be able to run
> > simple thinks like Macr
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P
Goswin von Brederlow <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Hi,
>
> Debian policy says:
>
> | 8.2 Run-time support programs
> |
> | If your package has some run-time support programs which use the
> | shared library you must not put them in the shared library
> | package. If you do that then you won't be
On Sat, May 20, 2006 at 02:18:57PM -0700, Josh Triplett wrote:
> > Note that the license says "... is distributed *with* your Operating
> > System", and not "is part of". I don't know where you read the "part of"
> > bit? Anyway, we definitely do distribute non-free *with* our OS, it's in
> > debia
Thomas Bushnell BSG <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Goswin von Brederlow <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> Debian policy says:
>>
>> | 8.2 Run-time support programs
>> |
>> | If your package has some run-time support programs which use the
>> | shared library you must not put them in the s
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Programmin
On Sat, 2006-05-20 at 20:32 -0500, Ron Johnson wrote:
> If you aren't getting Solaris-specific features (dtrace, etc ?),
> then what's the point of running Solaris?
Nexenta is absolutely rock stable OS (thanks to legendary Solaris
history) and moving towards running any applications written for So
On Fri, May 19, 2006 at 01:12:19PM +0200, Martin Zobel-Helas wrote:
> On Friday, 19 May 2006, you wrote:
> > > > As a final note, did anyone from Debian who usually examines licences
> > > > actually examine this one?
> > > Yes.
> > I take it you were too busy to elaborate on this when you wrote t
Steve Langasek wrote:
> On Sat, May 20, 2006 at 02:18:57PM -0700, Josh Triplett wrote:
>>> Note that the license says "... is distributed *with* your Operating
>>> System", and not "is part of". I don't know where you read the "part of"
>>> bit? Anyway, we definitely do distribute non-free *with* o
Erast Benson writes...
> On Sat, 2006-05-20 at 12:32 -0500, Michael Banck wrote:
> > We had a pure NetBSD port before, but so far no non-glibc port got added
> > to the archive officially (but that doesn't mean it would get rejected
> > if it was of release quality).
> >
> > IMHO a glibc-based
Erast Benson writes...
> Once you accompany OpenSolaris kernel with GLIBC, you will kill this
> capability, you will not be able to run anything other than OSS compiled
> for your particular distro. That was my point. And isn't LSB is what
> GNU/Linux moving towards to? In OpenSolaris we have its
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