Re: Debian Light Desktop - meta package

2006-04-14 Thread Giuseppe Sacco
Il giorno gio, 13/04/2006 alle 11.46 +0200, Eduard Bloch ha scritto: [...] > > - evince > > As other pointed out, does basically the same job as xpdf but pulls half > of the Gnome. If you just want to display PDF files then probably xpdf is a better option, but Evince has a really nice feature: i

Re: Debian Light Desktop - meta package

2006-04-14 Thread Ron Johnson
On Fri, 2006-04-14 at 09:40 +0200, Giuseppe Sacco wrote: > Il giorno gio, 13/04/2006 alle 11.46 +0200, Eduard Bloch ha scritto: > [...] > > > - evince > > > > As other pointed out, does basically the same job as xpdf but pulls half > > of the Gnome. > > If you just want to display PDF files then

Re: Debian Light Desktop - meta package

2006-04-14 Thread Kevin Mark
On Fri, Apr 14, 2006 at 03:00:44AM -0500, Ron Johnson wrote: > On Fri, 2006-04-14 at 09:40 +0200, Giuseppe Sacco wrote: > > Il giorno gio, 13/04/2006 alle 11.46 +0200, Eduard Bloch ha scritto: > > [...] > > > > - evince > > > > > > As other pointed out, does basically the same job as xpdf but pull

Re: Debian Light Desktop - meta package

2006-04-14 Thread Peter Samuelson
[Kevin Mark] > What about: '100-300MHZ system desktop(XFCE)' > > Also, based upon the cpu/mem info, display: > you machine has a 766MHZ processor with 128MB memory. > [x]KDE desktop environment[500mhz or greater] > [ ]GNOME desktop evirnoenne[500mhz or greater] > [ ]XFCE desktop enviorneme[300mhz

Re: Debian Light Desktop - meta package

2006-04-14 Thread Christian Perrier
> I am sure this has been discussed many times, but one thing i would > really like to see in tasksel is: Many many times, yes..:-) Joey often raised an argument about novice users likely to be confused by a KDE/Gnome choice, not knowing the difference between both. Your suggestion adds an inte

Re: Debian Light Desktop - meta package

2006-04-14 Thread Daniel Schepler
Le Vendredi 14 Avril 2006 08:28, Kevin Mark a écrit : > Hi Linas, > what about /proc/cpuinfo to determine MHZ and /proc/meminfo to find MB. > does this provide some way to get this info accross all (or most) of the > archs/subarch? > And how about using /proc/* to guess what kind of storage is aval

Re: Bug#361418: [Proposal] new Debian menu structure

2006-04-14 Thread Ognyan Kulev
Hamish Moffatt wrote: > "HAM" is not an acronym, so "Ham Radio" would be more appropriate. > > Even better (IMHO) is the full term "Amateur Radio", but some may > disagree. I've CC'd debian-hams for their input also. Is there a problem with using "Amateur (Ham) Radio"? Regards, ogi -- To UNSU

Re: Debian Light Desktop - meta package

2006-04-14 Thread Yves-Alexis Perez
On Thu, 2006-04-13 at 11:46 +0200, Eduard Bloch wrote: > > - file-roller > > Is there really no other choice without GNOME dependencies? there is xarchiver, entered recently in unstable -- Yves-Alexis Perez -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Troubl

Re: Debian Light Desktop - meta package

2006-04-14 Thread Keegan Quinn
On Fri, Apr 14, 2006 at 10:19:20AM +0200, Christian Perrier wrote: > I would vote against too much choices if we go this way, > though. Probably if the multiple desktop environments suggestion is > implemented, it should be restricted to four choices: > > -"I dont know" > -KDE > -Gnome > -Light de

Bug#362454: ITP: kredentials -- KDE systray applet for managing AFS and Kerberos credentials

2006-04-14 Thread Noah Meyerhans
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Noah Meyerhans <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> * Package name: kredentials Version : 0.7.1 Upstream Author : Noah Meyerhans (yes, that's me) * URL : http://people.csail.mit.edu/noahm/kredentials * License : MIT Description : KD

What on earth?

2006-04-14 Thread Adam C Powell IV
Greetings, Please tell me if I have this right: * You don't like .la files * So you're unilaterally removing them from a core package (libxcursor) with dozens of reverse-depends, breaking all of them * Even though they're a years-old and very well established

Re: What on earth?

2006-04-14 Thread Adam C Powell IV
On Thu, 2006-04-13 at 11:12 -0400, Adam C Powell IV wrote: > Greetings, > > Please tell me if I have this right: > * You don't like .la files > * So you're unilaterally removing them from a core package > (libxcursor) with dozens of reverse-depends, breaking all of > th

Bug#362584: ITP: xindy -- a flexible indexing system

2006-04-14 Thread Jörg Sommer
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: "Jörg Sommer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> * Package name: xindy Version : 2.2-beta2-1 Upstream Author : Joachim Schrod <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> * URL : http://xindy.sourceforge.net/ * License : GPL Programming Lang: C, LISP Descri

Re: Upload getting lost

2006-04-14 Thread Bernhard R. Link
* Manoj Srivastava <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [060413 06:05]: > >> A colon is explicitly allowed if the version contains an epoch. In > >> this case, the build generate file names which contain a colon, > >> too, and I'd expect them to be rejected in the same manner (they > >> look essentially the same b

Re: Bug#361418: [Proposal] new Debian menu structure

2006-04-14 Thread Thiemo Seufer
Ognyan Kulev wrote: > Hamish Moffatt wrote: > > "HAM" is not an acronym, so "Ham Radio" would be more appropriate. > > > > Even better (IMHO) is the full term "Amateur Radio", but some may > > disagree. I've CC'd debian-hams for their input also. > > Is there a problem with using "Amateur (Ham) R

Re: Debian Light Desktop - meta package

2006-04-14 Thread Linas Žvirblis
Christian Perrier wrote: > Joey often raised an argument about novice users likely to be confused > by a KDE/Gnome choice, not knowing the difference between both. That is undoubtedly true for novice (as in "first time") users, but we should realize that there is a large group of users that are e

Re: Upload getting lost

2006-04-14 Thread Manoj Srivastava
On 14 Apr 2006, Bernhard R. Link stated: > * Manoj Srivastava <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [060413 06:05]: A colon is explicitly allowed if the version contains an epoch. In this case, the build generate file names which contain a colon, too, and I'd expect them to be rejected in the same ma

Re: Bug#362040: ITP: rt2x00 -- RT2400/2500/2570 wireless network drivers

2006-04-14 Thread Adrian von Bidder
On Wednesday 12 April 2006 00:23, Ben Hutchings wrote: > * Package name: rt2x00 > This package would contain version 2 of the rt2x00 drivers that are > currently distributed as separate rt2400 and rt2500 packages (and a > proposed rt2570 package). Did you talk with Aurelien (maintainer of rt2

Re: Upload getting lost

2006-04-14 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
Florian Weimer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Technically, this is not a dpkg-source but because dpkg (and APT) do > not validate version numbers. Some ISVs rely on this and they use > forbidden characters in version strings ('_' seems to be quite common, > for example). And I suspect that there

Re: Bug#361418: [Proposal] new Debian menu structure

2006-04-14 Thread Manoj Srivastava
On 14 Apr 2006, Thiemo Seufer told this: > Ognyan Kulev wrote: >> Hamish Moffatt wrote: >>> "HAM" is not an acronym, so "Ham Radio" would be more appropriate. >>> >>> Even better (IMHO) is the full term "Amateur Radio", but some may >>> disagree. I've CC'd debian-hams for their input also. >> >> I

Re: Upload getting lost

2006-04-14 Thread Bernhard R. Link
* Manoj Srivastava <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [060414 14:55]: > > Policy has (besides other things) the job of documentating current > > practice. > > Not quite correct. Policy has the job of docmenting what is > technically correct, and selecting one of a number of equally viable > technical

Re: Bug#361418: [Proposal] new Debian menu structure

2006-04-14 Thread Thiemo Seufer
Manoj Srivastava wrote: > On 14 Apr 2006, Thiemo Seufer told this: > > > Ognyan Kulev wrote: > >> Hamish Moffatt wrote: > >>> "HAM" is not an acronym, so "Ham Radio" would be more appropriate. > >>> > >>> Even better (IMHO) is the full term "Amateur Radio", but some may > >>> disagree. I've CC'd d

Re: Bug#361418: [Proposal] new Debian menu structure

2006-04-14 Thread Ben Armstrong
On Fri, 2006-04-14 at 14:29 +0100, Thiemo Seufer wrote: > Yes. Debian shouldn't be the Linux Distribution of Cryptic Acronyms. Perhaps you missed the point earlier in the thread that Ham isn't an acronym? Also, I don't think anyone with even a passing familiarity with amateur radio seriously thin

Re: Bug#362040: ITP: rt2x00 -- RT2400/2500/2570 wireless network drivers

2006-04-14 Thread Ben Hutchings
Adrian von Bidder wrote: > On Wednesday 12 April 2006 00:23, Ben Hutchings wrote: > > * Package name: rt2x00 > > > This package would contain version 2 of the rt2x00 drivers that are > > currently distributed as separate rt2400 and rt2500 packages (and a > > proposed rt2570 package). > > Did

Re: Bug#361418: [Proposal] new Debian menu structure

2006-04-14 Thread Linas Žvirblis
Manoj Srivastava wrote: >>> Is there a problem with using "Amateur (Ham) Radio"? >> It is unnecessarily complicated. [...] > Since when has dumbing down debian been a goal? It is not about "dumbing down Debian". It is about not having dumb names for menu sections. First of all, "Ham" is not a

Re: Bug#361418: [Proposal] new Debian menu structure

2006-04-14 Thread Hamish Moffatt
On Fri, Apr 14, 2006 at 10:40:03AM -0300, Ben Armstrong wrote: > On Fri, 2006-04-14 at 14:29 +0100, Thiemo Seufer wrote: > > What exactly was dumbed down here? Is there a non-Ham Amateur Radio > > we would have to distinguish from? > > DX, perhaps? It seems to this outsider that both Ham and DX a

Re: Bug#361418: [Proposal] new Debian menu structure

2006-04-14 Thread Hamish Moffatt
On Fri, Apr 14, 2006 at 04:43:32PM +0300, Linas ??virblis wrote: > First of all, "Ham" is not a word, neither it is an acronym. It roughly > stands for "[H]andheld [a][m]ateur". So what does that make? "Amateur > (handheld amateur) radio". Makes no sense, does it? What?! > The correct term would

Re: Bug#361418: [Proposal] new Debian menu structure

2006-04-14 Thread Hamish Moffatt
On Fri, Apr 14, 2006 at 11:49:31AM +0100, Thiemo Seufer wrote: > Ognyan Kulev wrote: > > Hamish Moffatt wrote: > > > "HAM" is not an acronym, so "Ham Radio" would be more appropriate. > > > > > > Even better (IMHO) is the full term "Amateur Radio", but some may > > > disagree. I've CC'd debian-ham

Re: Bug#361418: [Proposal] new Debian menu structure

2006-04-14 Thread Linas Žvirblis
Hamish Moffatt wrote: > Not only too long but completely wrong. Yeah, I seem to be confusing things. Sorry for that. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Bug#361418: [Proposal] new Debian menu structure

2006-04-14 Thread Manoj Srivastava
On 14 Apr 2006, Thiemo Seufer outgrape: > Manoj Srivastava wrote: >> On 14 Apr 2006, Thiemo Seufer told this: >> >>> Ognyan Kulev wrote: Hamish Moffatt wrote: > "HAM" is not an acronym, so "Ham Radio" would be more > appropriate. > > Even better (IMHO) is the full term "Amateu

Re: Bug#361418: [Proposal] new Debian menu structure

2006-04-14 Thread Manoj Srivastava
On 14 Apr 2006, Linas Žvirblis stated: > Manoj Srivastava wrote: > Is there a problem with using "Amateur (Ham) Radio"? >>> It is unnecessarily complicated. > > [...] > >> Since when has dumbing down debian been a goal? > > It is not about "dumbing down Debian". It is about not having dumb >

Re: Bug#354674: What on earth?

2006-04-14 Thread Jose Carlos Garcia Sogo
On Thu, Apr 13, 2006 at 07:58:05PM -0400, David Nusinow wrote: > On Thu, Apr 13, 2006 at 07:09:55PM -0400, Adam C Powell IV wrote: > > *Think* for a moment about the consequences. This is not a simple > > rebuild, this is a serious problem. > > I agree and I take full responsibility for the issue

Re: Bug#354674: What on earth?

2006-04-14 Thread Adam C Powell IV
On Thu, 2006-04-13 at 19:12 +0300, Daniel Stone wrote: > On Thu, Apr 13, 2006 at 11:12:06AM -0400, Adam C Powell IV wrote: > > Please tell me if I have this right: > > * You don't like .la files > > Yes. > > > * So you're unilaterally removing them from a core package > > (lib

Re: Upload getting lost

2006-04-14 Thread Florian Weimer
* Manoj Srivastava: > Not quite correct. Policy has the job of docmenting what is > technically correct, and selecting one of a number of equally viable > technical options where numerous possibilities exist. The primary > purpose of policy is to ensure that diverse packages under dif

Re: Bug#361418: [Proposal] new Debian menu structure

2006-04-14 Thread Linas Žvirblis
Manoj Srivastava wrote: > Amateur radio is the dumb name, for people who are confused by > what the practioners call it -- HAM radio. It is translated as "amateur radio" to some languages. Others translate it entirely to something specific to that language. And some use HAM. Can you cla

Re: Bug#354674: What on earth?

2006-04-14 Thread Adam C Powell IV
On Thu, 2006-04-13 at 19:58 -0400, David Nusinow wrote: > On Thu, Apr 13, 2006 at 07:09:55PM -0400, Adam C Powell IV wrote: > > *Think* for a moment about the consequences. This is not a simple > > rebuild, this is a serious problem. > > I agree and I take full responsibility for the issue. I'm s

Re: Debian Light Desktop - meta package

2006-04-14 Thread Miles Bader
"André Luiz Rodrigues Ferreira" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >> Any particular reason for not just using xpdf? > > Evince have more resources and combine with the Xfce interface. > In the reality I would like to keep the applications with the same > appearance. Possibly gtk2. Er, that's nice, but a

Fwd: Delivery Status Notification (Failure)

2006-04-14 Thread Blake Harms
hey, i was searching for arabic translator and came upon your email, could you take the time to translate this one small peice of arabic into english for me, it should probably be less than a word or so... thanks for your time-  blake

Re: Bug#361418: [Proposal] new Debian menu structure

2006-04-14 Thread Marc Haber
On Fri, 14 Apr 2006 14:29:45 +0100, Thiemo Seufer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >Manoj Srivastava wrote: >> On 14 Apr 2006, Thiemo Seufer told this: >> >> > Ognyan Kulev wrote: >> >> Hamish Moffatt wrote: >> >>> "HAM" is not an acronym, so "Ham Radio" would be more appropriate. >> >>> >> >>> Even bet

Work-needing packages report for Apr 14, 2006

2006-04-14 Thread wnpp
The following is a listing of packages for which help has been requested through the WNPP (Work-Needing and Prospective Packages) system in the last week. Total number of orphaned packages: 294 (new: 18) Total number of packages offered up for adoption: 88 (new: 3) Total number of packages request

Re: Debian Light Desktop - meta package

2006-04-14 Thread Miles Bader
Giuseppe Sacco <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >> As other pointed out, does basically the same job as xpdf but pulls half >> of the Gnome. > > If you just want to display PDF files then probably xpdf is a better > option, but Evince has a really nice feature: it show TIFF multipage. > This is the *onl

Re: Debian Light Desktop - meta package

2006-04-14 Thread Mike Hommey
On Fri, Apr 14, 2006 at 11:17:50AM +0900, Miles Bader <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > "André Luiz Rodrigues Ferreira" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > >> Any particular reason for not just using xpdf? > > > > Evince have more resources and combine with the Xfce interface. > > In the reality I would like

Re: Work-needing packages report for Apr 14, 2006

2006-04-14 Thread Felipe Sateler
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > The following is a listing of packages for which help has been requested > through the WNPP (Work-Needing and Prospective Packages) system in the > last week. > > Total number of orphaned packages: 294 (new: 18) > Total number of packages offered up for adoption: 88 (ne

Re: Debian Light Desktop - meta package

2006-04-14 Thread Eduard Bloch
#include * Ron Johnson [Fri, Apr 14 2006, 03:00:44AM]: > On Fri, 2006-04-14 at 09:40 +0200, Giuseppe Sacco wrote: > > If you just want to display PDF files then probably xpdf is a better > > option, but Evince has a really nice feature: it show TIFF multipage. > > This is the *only* free software

Re: Debian Light Desktop - meta package

2006-04-14 Thread Torsten Marek
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Eduard Bloch wrote: > #include > * André Luiz Rodrigues Ferreira [Tue, Apr 11 2006, 01:44:57PM]: >> Hi ! >> >> I'm creating a meta package for install a lite desktop for old >> machines with poor hardware. >> I would like to receive opinions about my

Re: Bug#354674: What on earth?

2006-04-14 Thread Steve Langasek
On Thu, Apr 13, 2006 at 08:25:55PM -0400, Adam C Powell IV wrote: > On Thu, 2006-04-13 at 19:58 -0400, David Nusinow wrote: > > On Thu, Apr 13, 2006 at 07:09:55PM -0400, Adam C Powell IV wrote: > > > *Think* for a moment about the consequences. This is not a simple > > > rebuild, this is a serious

Re: Debian Light Desktop - meta package

2006-04-14 Thread Miles Bader
Mike Hommey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > The "renders documents much more nicely" is absolutely wrong No it's not. Perhaps you haven't used xpdf recently. In particular, xpdf seems to do a _much_ better job of anti-aliasing fonts than evince: xpdf's antialiasing generally manages to be both sm

Re: Bug#361418: [Proposal] new Debian menu structure

2006-04-14 Thread Hamish Moffatt
On Fri, Apr 14, 2006 at 09:57:14AM -0500, Manoj Srivastava wrote: > On 14 Apr 2006, Linas ??virblis stated: > > > Manoj Srivastava wrote: > > > Is there a problem with using "Amateur (Ham) Radio"? > >>> It is unnecessarily complicated. > > > > [...] > > > >> Since when has dumbing down debian

Soliciting keys for the debconf6 keysigning party in Oaxtepec

2006-04-14 Thread Aníbal Monsalve Salazar
Hello, If you intend to participate in the debconf6 keysigning party in Oaxtepec, please send your ascii armored public key as explained at [0] by Saturday, 6th of May, 2006. [0] http://people.debian.org/~anibal/ksp-dc6/ksp-dc6.html Best Regards, Aníbal Monsalve Salazar -- http://v7w.com/aniba

Bug#362652: ITP: sork-forwards-h3 -- autoforward module for Horde Framework

2006-04-14 Thread Gregory Colpart
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Gregory Colpart (evolix) <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> * Package name: sork-forwards-h3 Version : 3.0 Upstream Author : The Horde Team <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> * URL : http://www.horde.org/forwards/ * License : Apache License 1.1 Descr

Re: Debian Light Desktop - meta package

2006-04-14 Thread Don Armstrong
On Fri, 14 Apr 2006, Torsten Marek wrote: > >> - eog > > > > As said, Gnome bloat. Use gqview or pornview. > > Well, don't take pornview or you'll soon have a bug report about > politically incorrect package names;-) Try feh. Much, much more powerful, and much, much nicer. Don Armstrong -- T

Re: Bug#361418: [Proposal] new Debian menu structure

2006-04-14 Thread Christian Perrier
> "Amateur Radio", as fuzzy as it may be, is at least literally > translatable, and HAM is not. Please realize that English menu is not > targeted at English speaking world only. It is also a default for > situations where translation is not available. Rebounding on that mail, but actually more

Re: Debian Light Desktop - meta package

2006-04-14 Thread Christian Perrier
> Therefore I suggest doing this... > > - I don't know (both of them) > - KDE desktop environment > - Gnome desktop environment > > ...and leaving the specialized tasks for CDDs, because that is what they > are for, right? Well, I haven't followed the rest of the thread (the part where peop

Re: Upload getting lost

2006-04-14 Thread Lionel Elie Mamane
On Wed, Apr 12, 2006 at 12:36:39PM +0200, Raphael Hertzog wrote: > On Wed, 12 Apr 2006, Lionel Elie Mamane wrote: >> On Wed, Apr 12, 2006 at 10:08:21AM +0200, Joerg Jaspert wrote: >>> The problem is the : in your .changes name. The match is: >>> re_taint_free = re.compile(r"^[-+~/\.\w]+$"); >>> Y

Re: Debian Light Desktop - meta package

2006-04-14 Thread Ron Johnson
On Thu, 2006-04-13 at 09:08 -0300, André Luiz Rodrigues Ferreira wrote: > 2006/4/11, Bernhard R. Link <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > * Andr Luiz Rodrigues Ferreira <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [060411 18:45]: > > > - x-window-system-core > > > - xfce4 (beautiful!) > > > - gdm > > [...] > > > - gnome-ppp > > > - g