Re: PROPOSAL: debian/control file to include new License: field

2006-02-21 Thread Peter Samuelson
[Kevin Mark] > would it provide any automation or easier processing for the NEW > queue(ftpmasters)? I doubt it. They don't take the maintainer's word for stuff like that, as I understand it - they double-check the copyright and license declarations in the source code. > would it allow for redu

Re: PROPOSAL: debian/control file to include new License: field

2006-02-21 Thread Kevin Mark
On Tue, Feb 21, 2006 at 02:35:52AM -0600, Peter Samuelson wrote: > > [Kevin Mark] > > would it provide any automation or easier processing for the NEW > > queue(ftpmasters)? > > I doubt it. They don't take the maintainer's word for stuff like that, > as I understand it - they double-check the co

Re: PROPOSAL: debian/control file to include new License: field

2006-02-21 Thread Robert Collins
On Tue, 2006-02-21 at 03:54 -0500, Kevin Mark wrote: > On Tue, Feb 21, 2006 at 02:35:52AM -0600, Peter Samuelson wrote: > > > > [Kevin Mark] > > > would it provide any automation or easier processing for the NEW > > > queue(ftpmasters)? > > > > I doubt it. They don't take the maintainer's word f

Re: PROPOSAL: debian/control file to include new License: field

2006-02-21 Thread Wouter Verhelst
On Tue, Feb 21, 2006 at 02:45:12AM -0500, Kevin Mark wrote: > On Mon, Feb 20, 2006 at 11:12:46PM -0800, Russ Allbery wrote: [License field] > > In other words, it seems like a lot of work, and it's not clear what > > problem it would really solve. > Hi, > would it provide any automation or easier p

Re: PROPOSAL: debian/control file to include new License: field

2006-02-21 Thread Benjamin Mesing
Note that there was a discussion using debtags for license information on debtags-devel/debian-legal. http://lists.debian.org/debian-legal/2005/06/msg00016.html is a good starting point. Personally I believe, that if such an information should be available, debtags is more suitable to express thi

Re: PROPOSAL: debian/control file to include new License: field

2006-02-21 Thread Joerg Jaspert
On 10572 March 1977, Jari Aalto wrote: > To my understanding the only way to obtain the license information > for a package is to actually download it (or install it) and the > study the content of > /usr/share/doc//copyright Yes. > Add new field to the debian/control (which would be generat

Re: PROPOSAL: debian/control file to include new License: field

2006-02-21 Thread Joerg Jaspert
On 10572 March 1977, Kevin Mark wrote: > would it provide any automation or easier processing for the NEW > queue(ftpmasters)? Nope. -- bye Joerg Naturally; worms that don't know what they are doing end up as fish bait, instead of getting invited into weird math experiments. --

Re: PROPOSAL: debian/control file to include new License: field

2006-02-21 Thread Joerg Jaspert
On 10572 March 1977, Kevin Mark wrote: > You mean they check ever single time $RANDOM_PACKAGE enter NEW and don't > assume its correct until someone raises an objections? Yes. And the big number of rejects due to incorrect debian/copyright files (more than for technical reasons) shows that it is

Re: Bug#353777: ITP: multixterm -- drive multiple xterms separately or together

2006-02-21 Thread David Pashley
On Feb 20, 2006 at 20:43, gregor herrmann praised the llamas by saying: > Package: wnpp > Severity: wishlist > Owner: gregor herrmann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > > * Package name: multixterm > Version : 1.8 > Upstream Author : Don L

Re: PROPOSAL: debian/control file to include new License: field

2006-02-21 Thread Thomas Viehmann
Kevin Mark wrote: > You mean they check ever single time $RANDOM_PACKAGE enter NEW and don't > assume its correct until someone raises an objections? I'd at least > think you could create a sub-queue in NEW so that already tagged > standard licenses would get processed faster and others would be in

Re: PROPOSAL: debian/control file to include new License: field

2006-02-21 Thread Kevin Mark
On Tue, Feb 21, 2006 at 10:40:33AM +0100, Joerg Jaspert wrote: > On 10572 March 1977, Kevin Mark wrote: > > > You mean they check ever single time $RANDOM_PACKAGE enter NEW and don't > > assume its correct until someone raises an objections? > > Yes. And the big number of rejects due to incorrect

Re: Bug#353277: ndiswrapper in main

2006-02-21 Thread Hamish Moffatt
On Mon, Feb 20, 2006 at 09:13:15PM -0800, Adam McKenna wrote: > On Sun, Feb 19, 2006 at 01:45:24PM -0500, Andres Salomon wrote: > > And for fuck's sake, stop filling up my inbox w/ this crap. I'm not > > doing a thing unless either a) you people come to a consensus on the > > issue (which you have

Re: PROPOSAL: debian/control file to include new License: field

2006-02-21 Thread Kevin Mark
On Tue, Feb 21, 2006 at 10:48:30AM +0100, Thomas Viehmann wrote: > Kevin Mark wrote: > > You mean they check ever single time $RANDOM_PACKAGE enter NEW and don't > > assume its correct until someone raises an objections? I'd at least > > think you could create a sub-queue in NEW so that already tag

Re: PROPOSAL: debian/control file to include new License: field

2006-02-21 Thread Joerg Jaspert
On 10572 March 1977, Kevin Mark wrote: > I understand the general idea of a DFSG-free license but, for example, > if Clint uploads yet another zsh package bugfix, I'm not expecting him to have > it under a different license then the last 99 uploads. And if there was > a license change, you could d

Re: PROPOSAL: debian/control file to include new License: field

2006-02-21 Thread Michael Koch
On Tue, Feb 21, 2006 at 04:58:07AM -0500, Kevin Mark wrote: > On Tue, Feb 21, 2006 at 10:48:30AM +0100, Thomas Viehmann wrote: > > Kevin Mark wrote: > > > You mean they check ever single time $RANDOM_PACKAGE enter NEW and don't > > > assume its correct until someone raises an objections? I'd at lea

Re: PROPOSAL: debian/control file to include new License: field

2006-02-21 Thread Kevin Mark
On Tue, Feb 21, 2006 at 11:01:07AM +0100, Joerg Jaspert wrote: > On 10572 March 1977, Kevin Mark wrote: > > > I understand the general idea of a DFSG-free license but, for example, > > if Clint uploads yet another zsh package bugfix, I'm not expecting him to > > have > > it under a different lice

Re: PROPOSAL: debian/control file to include new License: field

2006-02-21 Thread Kevin Mark
On Tue, Feb 21, 2006 at 12:10:27PM +0100, Michael Koch wrote: > On Tue, Feb 21, 2006 at 04:58:07AM -0500, Kevin Mark wrote: > > On Tue, Feb 21, 2006 at 10:48:30AM +0100, Thomas Viehmann wrote: > > Hi Thomas, > > as I just wrote to Joerge, I am not refering to the initial upload of a > > brand-new p

Re: TrueType fonts packages maintenance team proposal

2006-02-21 Thread Frank Küster
Christian Perrier <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> I'd be glad if you'd keep the Debian TeX Task Force (currently at >> [EMAIL PROTECTED], soon at [EMAIL PROTECTED]) informed about >> drafts of this policy. Although we don't currently package any TTF > > > Of courseActually, I see some differenc

Re: Bug#353277: ndiswrapper in main

2006-02-21 Thread Eduard Bloch
#include * Thomas Bushnell BSG [Mon, Feb 20 2006, 09:35:14AM]: > > No, it will never end. A few people managed to change the definition of > > freedom which was commonly accepted when I joined the project nine years > > ago and I do not feel a moral need to support their position. > > This is, I

Re: PROPOSAL: debian/control file to include new License: field

2006-02-21 Thread Michael Koch
On Tue, Feb 21, 2006 at 05:17:56AM -0500, Kevin Mark wrote: > On Tue, Feb 21, 2006 at 12:10:27PM +0100, Michael Koch wrote: > > On Tue, Feb 21, 2006 at 04:58:07AM -0500, Kevin Mark wrote: > > > On Tue, Feb 21, 2006 at 10:48:30AM +0100, Thomas Viehmann wrote: > > > Hi Thomas, > > > as I just wrote t

Re: Bug#353277: ndiswrapper in main (was: Bug#353277: should be in contrib)

2006-02-21 Thread Anthony Towns
On Mon, Feb 20, 2006 at 11:38:53PM -0800, Adam McKenna wrote: > Practically, [contrib is] to avoid shipping things on our CDs that depend on > stuff > that's not on our CDs. The reason for contrib isn't practicality at all, it's to distinguish free software that stands on its own and that depends

Re: PROPOSAL: debian/control file to include new License: field

2006-02-21 Thread Ross Burton
On Tue, 2006-02-21 at 02:45 -0500, Kevin Mark wrote: > would it provide any automation or easier processing for the NEW > queue(ftpmasters)? I'd assume part of the FTP masters checking is actually verifying the license specified in debian/copyright is the license actually used by the source, and

Re: TrueType fonts packages maintenance team proposal

2006-02-21 Thread Florent Rougon
Frank Küster <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I guess the difference is more in the historic development than in > actual technical differences. You can easily use Type1 fonts under X11 > if they are registered to defoma; I don't know about Openoffice and > friends. OpenOffice.org can use Latin Mo

Re: PROPOSAL: debian/control file to include new License: field

2006-02-21 Thread Kevin Mark
On Tue, Feb 21, 2006 at 08:34:22AM +, Ross Burton wrote: > On Tue, 2006-02-21 at 02:45 -0500, Kevin Mark wrote: > > would it provide any automation or easier processing for the NEW > > queue(ftpmasters)? > > I'd assume part of the FTP masters checking is actually verifying the > license speci

Re: PROPOSAL: debian/control file to include new License: field

2006-02-21 Thread Joerg Jaspert
On 10572 March 1977, Kevin Mark wrote: >> Only packages in NEW are checked, not every little bugfix upload. :) > I probably need one of these two at the moment: 1) sleep 2) caffine so I > mis-stated what NEW entails. It deals with initial uploads and other > situations(at least new upstream and ot

Re: Bug#353777: ITP: multixterm -- drive multiple xterms separately or together

2006-02-21 Thread Fabio Tranchitella
Il giorno mar, 21/02/2006 alle 09.44 +, David Pashley ha scritto: > > Typing in the stdin window while holding down the alt or meta keys sends an > > escape character before the typed characters. This provides support for > > programs such as emacs. > > > Why would I want to use this? I now

Ubuntu patches

2006-02-21 Thread Scott James Remnant
As a few people have noticed, the Ubuntu patches repository is currently producing some unusual results; in particular the patches seem to include Debian changes as well as Ubuntu ones. The patches are produced by a tool we oh-so-amusingly call NDA (Nightly Difference Analysis), which like the MOM

Re: Ubuntu patches

2006-02-21 Thread Frank Küster
"Scott James Remnant" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > And the reason 4.23 isn't in the morgue is simple, Debian's morgue ran > out of disk space a while ago. What is Debian's morgue? What about using snapshot.debian.net? Regards, Frank -- Frank Küster Single Molecule Spectroscopy, Protein Foldi

Re: Ubuntu patches

2006-02-21 Thread martin f krafft
also sprach Scott James Remnant <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2006.02.21.1506 +0100]: > File a request here: > https://launchpad.net/products/nda/+addticket Scott, I appreciate your work and your mail to keep us up to date. It's good to see you back at the keys! This isn't a rant, but a serious wishli

Re: Bug#353277: ndiswrapper in main

2006-02-21 Thread Manoj Srivastava
On 21 Feb 2006, Steve Langasek verbalised: > On Tue, Feb 21, 2006 at 10:40:06AM +1000, Anthony Towns wrote: >> On Mon, Feb 20, 2006 at 05:36:13PM +0100, Robert Millan wrote: >>> I requested that ndiswrapper and ndiswrapper-modules-i386 be moved >>> to contrib. >> While I would personally rather se

Re: Ubuntu patches

2006-02-21 Thread Scott James Remnant
On 2/21/06, martin f krafft <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > also sprach Scott James Remnant <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2006.02.21.1506 +0100]: > > File a request here: > > https://launchpad.net/products/nda/+addticket > > This isn't a rant, but a serious wishlist request: if Canonical > wants more coope

Re: Ubuntu patches

2006-02-21 Thread martin f krafft
also sprach Scott James Remnant <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2006.02.21.1643 +0100]: > Launchpad does allow e-mail submission of support tickets and > bugs, but only if your e-mail address is registered against > a Launchpad account. I believe this is because they think it's > the best way to avoid spam (

Re: Bug#353277: ndiswrapper in main

2006-02-21 Thread Margarita Manterola
On 2/20/06, Raul Miller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > As a specific counter example, consider > http://rt2x00.serialmonkey.com/wiki/index.php/Main_Page > which is a project porting a windows driver to linux. This port > appears to be possible because the windows driver was made > available under a

Re: RFS: multixterm -- drive multiple xterms separately or together

2006-02-21 Thread gregor herrmann
On Tue, Feb 21, 2006 at 12:58:37PM +0100, Stefan Fritsch wrote: > > Title: multixterm -- drive multiple xterms separately or together > > ITP: #353777 > Standard question: Do you know clusterssh, which does pretty much the > same thing and is already in Debian? If no, I suggest you take look. T

Re: Bug#353277: ndiswrapper in main (was: Bug#353277: should be in contrib)

2006-02-21 Thread Adam McKenna
On Tue, Feb 21, 2006 at 07:04:27PM +1000, Anthony Towns wrote: > > In this case, even in the absence of free NDIS > > drivers, one could argue that the utility of having ndiswrapper in main > > (especially if it is integrated into the install) outweighs any potential > > drawbacks (and since the o

Re: Bug#353277: ndiswrapper in main (was: Bug#353277: should be in contrib)

2006-02-21 Thread Marco d'Itri
On Feb 21, Anthony Towns wrote: > The reason for contrib isn't practicality at all, it's to distinguish > free software that stands on its own and that depends on non-free > software. That's why it's specifically talked about in the social > contract, rather than only being discussed in policy.

Re: Bug#353277: ndiswrapper in main

2006-02-21 Thread Raul Miller
On 2/21/06, Margarita Manterola <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On 2/20/06, Raul Miller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > As a specific counter example, consider > > http://rt2x00.serialmonkey.com/wiki/index.php/Main_Page > > which is a project porting a windows driver to linux. This port > > appears to

Re: Bug#353381: ITP: freebsd-manpages -- Manual pages for a GNU/kFreeBSD system

2006-02-21 Thread David Weinehall
On Mon, Feb 20, 2006 at 12:42:08PM +0100, Florian Weimer wrote: > * David Weinehall: > > >> Upstream includes non-free manpages these days, so in reality, we have > >> already forked. Further Debian-specific changes are needed to address > >> bugs such as #295211 (upstream does not document our l

Marking BTS spam

2006-02-21 Thread Shaun Jackman
Is it possible to mark a particular message to the BTS (as in [EMAIL PROTECTED]) as spam? This information could be used for filtering the web page reports, or possibly training the spam filter. Thanks! Shaun

Re: Marking BTS spam

2006-02-21 Thread Don Armstrong
On Tue, 21 Feb 2006, Shaun Jackman wrote: > Is it possible to mark a particular message to the BTS (as in > [EMAIL PROTECTED]) as spam? This information could be used for > filtering the web page reports, or possibly training the spam filter. Visit http://bugs.debian.org/ Click: "Send a report th

Re: Marking BTS spam

2006-02-21 Thread Kevin Mark
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Tue, Feb 21, 2006 at 01:07:39PM -0700, Shaun Jackman wrote: > Is it possible to mark a particular message to the BTS (as in > [EMAIL PROTECTED]) as spam? This information could be used for > filtering the web page reports, or possibly training the s

Re: Ubuntu patches

2006-02-21 Thread Lionel Elie Mamane
You probably missed this question, which I also wanted to ask: On Tue, Feb 21, 2006 at 03:55:23PM +0100, Frank Küster wrote: > "Scott James Remnant" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> And the reason 4.23 isn't in the morgue is simple, Debian's morgue ran >> out of disk space a while ago. > What is De

Bug#353917: ITP: lanmap -- lanmap sits quietly on a network and builds a picture of what it sees.

2006-02-21 Thread Sebastien Delafond
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Sebastien Delafond <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> * Package name: lanmap Version : 0.1 Upstream Author : Ryan Flynn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> * URL : http://parseerror.com/lanmap/ * License : GPL Description : lanmap sits quietly on

Re: Bug#353917: ITP: lanmap -- lanmap sits quietly on a network and builds a picture of what it sees.

2006-02-21 Thread Javier Fernández-Sanguino Peña
On Tue, Feb 21, 2006 at 01:22:57PM -0800, Sebastien Delafond wrote: > * Package name: lanmap > Version : 0.1 > Upstream Author : Ryan Flynn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > * URL : http://parseerror.com/lanmap/ > * License : GPL > Description : lanmap sits quietly on

Re: Bug#353917: ITP: lanmap -- lanmap sits quietly on a network and builds a picture of what it sees.

2006-02-21 Thread Sebastien Delafond
On Wed, Feb 22, 2006 at 01:04:32AM +0100, Javier Fernández-Sanguino Peña wrote: > On Tue, Feb 21, 2006 at 01:22:57PM -0800, Sebastien Delafond wrote: > > * Package name: lanmap > > Version : 0.1 > > Upstream Author : Ryan Flynn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > * URL : http://pars

Re: Bug#353277: ndiswrapper in main

2006-02-21 Thread Adam McKenna
On Mon, Feb 20, 2006 at 05:43:59PM +0100, Robert Millan wrote: > On Sun, Feb 19, 2006 at 01:45:24PM -0500, Andres Salomon wrote: > > > Please also stop insulting ndiswrapper users and developers by calling > > > it a "warez wrapper". > > Actualy, since such "ndis drivers" are often provided with v

Bug#353931: ITP: exscalibar -- extendable, scalable architecture for audio-signal refinement

2006-02-21 Thread Bas Zoetekouw
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Bas Zoetekouw <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> * Package name: exscalibar Version : 1.0 Upstream Author : Gavin Wood * URL : http://sourceforge.net/projects/exscalibar/ * License : GPL Description : extendable, scalable architec

Re: Ubuntu patches

2006-02-21 Thread Anthony Towns
On Tue, Feb 21, 2006 at 02:06:47PM +, Scott James Remnant wrote: > * Processing netbase >- unstable: 4.24 >- main: 4.23ubuntu4 >- testing: 4.24 >- stable: 4.21 >- oldstable: 4.07 >- morgue: 4.22 > So the reason it didn't use 4.23 was simply t

Re: Bug#353277: ndiswrapper in main (was: Bug#353277: should be in contrib)

2006-02-21 Thread Anthony Towns
On Tue, Feb 21, 2006 at 09:57:21AM -0800, Adam McKenna wrote: > On Tue, Feb 21, 2006 at 07:04:27PM +1000, Anthony Towns wrote: > > > In this case, even in the absence of free NDIS > > > drivers, one could argue that the utility of having ndiswrapper in main > > > (especially if it is integrated int

Re: Ubuntu patches

2006-02-21 Thread Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
On Wed, 22 Feb 2006, Anthony Towns wrote: > But afaik, you don't actually have access to that since it's on a > restricted access machine, so I'm at a loss as to what you're calling > "Debian's morgue". Merkel's mirror, most probably. -- "One disk to rule them all, One disk to find them. One d

Bug#353941: ITP: xserver-xair -- X Server Featuring Accelerated Indirect Rendering

2006-02-21 Thread David Nusinow
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: David Nusinow <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> * Package name: xserver-xair Version : 1.0.1 Upstream Author : X.org <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> * URL : http://www.freedesktop.org * License : MIT/X Description : X Server Featuring Acceler

Re: Bug#353941: ITP: xserver-xair -- X Server Featuring Accelerated Indirect Rendering

2006-02-21 Thread David Nusinow
On Tue, Feb 21, 2006 at 10:53:30PM -0500, David Nusinow wrote: > Package: wnpp > Severity: wishlist > Owner: David Nusinow <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > * Package name: xserver-xair > Version : 1.0.1 > Upstream Author : X.org <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > * URL : http://www.freedeskt

Re: Ubuntu patches

2006-02-21 Thread Anthony Towns
On Wed, Feb 22, 2006 at 12:11:00AM -0300, Henrique de Moraes Holschuh wrote: > On Wed, 22 Feb 2006, Anthony Towns wrote: > > But afaik, you don't actually have access to that since it's on a > > restricted access machine, so I'm at a loss as to what you're calling > > "Debian's morgue". > Merkel's

Re: Bug#353277: ndiswrapper in main (was: Bug#353277: should be in contrib)

2006-02-21 Thread Adam McKenna
On Wed, Feb 22, 2006 at 12:35:06PM +1000, Anthony Towns wrote: > > So give a reference or Message-ID of (what you consider) a sound argument > > that is not similar to "CIPE, and Windows driver developers who want to test > > on Linux don't count." > > And that's what I mean -- there's nothing un

Re: Bug#353277: ndiswrapper in main (was: Bug#353277: should be in contrib)

2006-02-21 Thread Anthony Towns
On Tue, Feb 21, 2006 at 09:11:50PM -0800, Adam McKenna wrote: > On Wed, Feb 22, 2006 at 12:35:06PM +1000, Anthony Towns wrote: > > > So give a reference or Message-ID of (what you consider) a sound argument > > > that is not similar to "CIPE, and Windows driver developers who want to > > > test >

Re: Marking BTS spam

2006-02-21 Thread Nico Golde
Hi, * Kevin Mark <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2006-02-22 07:51]: > On Tue, Feb 21, 2006 at 01:07:39PM -0700, Shaun Jackman wrote: > > Is it possible to mark a particular message to the BTS (as in > > [EMAIL PROTECTED]) as spam? This information could be used for > > filtering the web page reports, or possi