Re: Amendment to GR on GFDL, and the changes to the Social Contract

2006-01-19 Thread Thomas Bushnell BSG
Brian Nelson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > I completely agree, and hereby question whether the secretary is capable > of being impartial in this case given his personal interests[1] in this > issue. You may question it, but it doesn't affect the case. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECT

Re: For those who care about their packages in Ubuntu

2006-01-19 Thread Thomas Bushnell BSG
Peter Samuelson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Do you really think users who fail to notice an "Origin" tag from > apt-cache, and believe they're above using reportbug, will notice an > "-ubuntuN" suffix in the version number? I don't. I think you are > arguing on abstract philosophical grounds r

Re: For those who care about their packages in Ubuntu

2006-01-19 Thread Thomas Bushnell BSG
Matt Zimmerman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >> > Why is it now important to you that the version numbers be changed, >> > though? This is only an issue when mixing packages between different >> > derivatives, which already breaks in other subtle ways, so I'm not very >> > much inclined to try to u

Re: when and why did python(-minimal) become essential?

2006-01-19 Thread Thomas Bushnell BSG
Matt Zimmerman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On Thu, Jan 19, 2006 at 06:38:55PM -0500, David Nusinow wrote: >> On Thu, Jan 19, 2006 at 03:18:48PM -0800, Matt Zimmerman wrote: >> > On Thu, Jan 19, 2006 at 05:58:20PM -0500, David Nusinow wrote: >> > > That said, I don't really understand why it's Ok

Re: Derivatives and the Version: field (Re: For those who care about their packages in Ubuntu)

2006-01-19 Thread Thomas Bushnell BSG
Matt Zimmerman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On Wed, Jan 18, 2006 at 06:47:22PM -0800, Thomas Bushnell BSG wrote: >> In any case, I want to note what has just happened here. You received >> a clear, easily implemented, request about what would be a wonderful >> contribution, and which is (from th

Re: Size matters. Debian binary package stats

2006-01-19 Thread Thomas Bushnell BSG
Goswin von Brederlow <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > The problem also isn't our machines but some mirror in > low-diskspace-land. The amount of disk it takes to carry a complete Debian copy is simply going to be increasing. We have to tradeoff dropping a mirror or two against the costs of weakenin

Re: Amendment to GR on GFDL, and the changes to the Social Contract

2006-01-19 Thread Brian Nelson
Thomas Bushnell BSG <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Brian Nelson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > >> I completely agree, and hereby question whether the secretary is capable >> of being impartial in this case given his personal interests[1] in this >> issue. > > You may question it, but it doesn't affe

Re: when and why did python(-minimal) become essential?

2006-01-19 Thread Matt Zimmerman
On Thu, Jan 19, 2006 at 08:42:57PM -0800, Thomas Bushnell BSG wrote: > Programs that want to use python can assume that python-minimal is > there (since it's Essential), and since python-minimal is never > installed without python also installed, they can also now assume that > all of python, inclu

Re: new mplayer 1.0pre7try2 package

2006-01-19 Thread Anthony Towns
On Thu, Jan 19, 2006 at 03:15:46PM -0500, Nathanael Nerode wrote: > And to reiterate: > If Debian wants to be legally safe w.r.t. mpeg encoder patents, removing some > mpeg encoders and not others -- when the others have been pointed out -- is > really a bad idea. Nathanael, stop trying to make

Re: when and why did python(-minimal) become essential?

2006-01-19 Thread David Nusinow
On Thu, Jan 19, 2006 at 09:09:30PM -0800, Matt Zimmerman wrote: > On Thu, Jan 19, 2006 at 08:42:57PM -0800, Thomas Bushnell BSG wrote: > > Programs that want to use python can assume that python-minimal is > > there (since it's Essential), and since python-minimal is never > > installed without pyt

Re: Amendment to GR on GFDL, and the changes to the Social Contract

2006-01-19 Thread Manoj Srivastava
On Thu, 19 Jan 2006 22:18:15 -0500, Christopher Martin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: > On Thursday 19 January 2006 21:27, Don Armstrong wrote: >> The Secretary has the authority to adjudicate constitutional >> disputes of interpretation under §7.1.2.[1] Since modifying the >> Foundation Documents re

Re: Amendment to GR on GFDL, and the changes to the Social Contract

2006-01-19 Thread Manoj Srivastava
On Thu, 19 Jan 2006 18:53:16 -0800, Brian Nelson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: > I completely agree, and hereby question whether the secretary is > capable of being impartial in this case given his personal > interests[1] in this issue. > [1] http://people.debian.org/~srivasta/Position_Statement.xht

Re: Re: statement from one of the klik project members [was: The klik project and Debian]

2006-01-19 Thread Cameron Patrick
Kurt Pfeifle wrote: > > On Thu, Jan 19, 2006 at 08:34:59PM +, Kurt Pfeifle wrote: > > > And third, klik doesn't really "install". It brings exactly 1 additional > > > file (the *.cmg) onto the system. It works with "user only" privileges. > > > > Hang on. You loop-mount with user-only privileg

Re: when and why did python(-minimal) become essential?

2006-01-19 Thread Matt Zimmerman
On Fri, Jan 20, 2006 at 12:16:55AM -0500, David Nusinow wrote: > Just to clarify, because I'm also confused and genuinely curious... you > guys use the minimal package during bootstrapping or something and then by > the end of the installation process you will necessarily have the full > python som

Re: Amendment to GR on GFDL, and the changes to the Social Contract

2006-01-19 Thread Manoj Srivastava
On Thu, 19 Jan 2006 22:20:32 -0500, Christopher Martin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: > On Thursday 19 January 2006 21:38, Manoj Srivastava wrote: >> Obviously, your course is now clear: start a process for a GR that >> states that the GFDL licensed works without invariant sections do >> not fall afo

Re: when and why did python(-minimal) become essential?

2006-01-19 Thread Anthony Towns
On Fri, Jan 20, 2006 at 12:16:55AM -0500, David Nusinow wrote: > > The difference between "installed" ("was installed initially") and > > "installed" ("is installed now"). The compromise we struck with upstream > > was that we would not give the user a system with a "broken" Python. If > > they c

Re: Amendment to GR on GFDL, and the changes to the Social Contract

2006-01-19 Thread Steve Langasek
On Thu, Jan 19, 2006 at 08:49:12PM -0800, Brian Nelson wrote: > Thomas Bushnell BSG <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > Brian Nelson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > >> I completely agree, and hereby question whether the secretary is capable > >> of being impartial in this case given his personal intere

Re: when and why did python(-minimal) become essential?

2006-01-19 Thread Thomas Bushnell BSG
Matt Zimmerman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On Thu, Jan 19, 2006 at 08:42:57PM -0800, Thomas Bushnell BSG wrote: >> Programs that want to use python can assume that python-minimal is >> there (since it's Essential), and since python-minimal is never >> installed without python also installed, the

Re: Amendment to GR on GFDL, and the changes to the Social Contract

2006-01-19 Thread Thomas Bushnell BSG
Brian Nelson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Thomas Bushnell BSG <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > >> Brian Nelson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >> >>> I completely agree, and hereby question whether the secretary is capable >>> of being impartial in this case given his personal interests[1] in this >>> i

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Re: Packages still Depending on xlibs-dev

2006-01-19 Thread Nicola Canepa
I may add also libsdl1.2-dev depends on xlibs-dev. Nicola Canepa Responsabile FM SysNet s.n.c. Via Dossi, 8 - 27100 Pavia - ITALIA http://www.sys-net.it --- Office: +39.0521.918369 Mobile: +39.348.1561144 Email:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -

Bug#348970: ITP: ldns -- dns client utilities

2006-01-19 Thread Ondřej SurÜ
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: "Ondřej Surý" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> * Package name: ldns Version : 1.0.1 Upstream Author : NLnetlabs * URL : http://www.nlnetlabs.nl/ldns/ * License : BSD Description : dns client utilities The goal of ldns is to s

Re: Re: statement from one of the klik project members [was: The klik project and Debian]

2006-01-19 Thread Wouter Verhelst
[Re-adding Cc to Kurt, as he's mentioned he isn't subscribed] On Fri, Jan 20, 2006 at 01:20:26PM +0800, Cameron Patrick wrote: > Kurt Pfeifle wrote: > > > > On Thu, Jan 19, 2006 at 08:34:59PM +, Kurt Pfeifle wrote: > > > > And third, klik doesn't really "install". It brings exactly 1 addition

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