Re: Alternate proposal for Declassification of debian-private archives

2005-12-02 Thread Simon Richter
Hi, Jérôme Marant wrote: - the list of posts to be declassified will be made available to developers two weeks before publication, so that the decisions Two weeks is too short to review, IMO. I didn't read that as a hard time limit between announcement and publication, but rather as t

Re: Announcement: Common Power-Management Framework

2005-12-02 Thread Matthew Garrett
Kevin Locke <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Fundamentally, our goal is to create an architecture-independent, > power-system-independent, and power-daemon-independent system to handle > power-related events (e.g. lid close, battery events). This will likely > happen by hooks from the power daemons (

Re: Announcement: Common Power-Management Framework

2005-12-02 Thread Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
On Fri, 02 Dec 2005, Matthew Garrett wrote: > To a large extent, this sort of work is currently being done in HAL. Is > there any need to create another level of abstraction, or should we just > work on that? It also sounds (though I'm not certain) like you're Can I tell HAL to just handle power m

Bug#341702: ITP: ppower4 -- generator of presentations for LaTeX

2005-12-02 Thread Rogério Brito
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: "Rogério Brito" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> * Package name: ppower4 Version : 0.9.4 Upstream Author : Klaus Guntermann, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> * URL : http://www-sp.iti.informatik.tu-darmstadt.de/software/ppower4/index.html * License

Re: Announcement: Common Power-Management Framework

2005-12-02 Thread Matthew Garrett
Henrique de Moraes Holschuh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Can I tell HAL to just handle power management instead of touching anything > else, and get it to do the right thing in a headless, GUIless server > environment? Can I do that with standard, system-wide configuration files? HAL on its own

Re: Automatic closing of bugs

2005-12-02 Thread Roberto C. Sanchez
On Fri, Dec 02, 2005 at 12:53:51AM +0100, Alexander Schmehl wrote: > * Peter Samuelson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [051202 00:33]: > > > This has been suggested before; the standard counterargument is "what > > about closing an ITP?" > > Then why not make a check (source package of bug and changelog are

Re: Automatic closing of bugs

2005-12-02 Thread Roberto C. Sanchez
On Fri, Dec 02, 2005 at 10:45:31AM +1100, Matthew Palmer wrote: > > Your mission, should you choose to accept it, is dig through the Perl code > in merkel:/org/bugs.debian.org/scripts and work out how to add this > functionality. > > - Matt Maybe it is a good thing that I am neither a DD (yet)

Re: Bug#341702: ITP: ppower4 -- generator of presentations for LaTeX

2005-12-02 Thread Andreas Tille
On Fri, 2 Dec 2005, [UTF-8] Rogério Brito wrote: * Package name: ppower4 Version : 0.9.4 Upstream Author : Klaus Guntermann, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> * URL : http://www-sp.iti.informatik.tu-darmstadt.de/software/ppower4/index.html PPower4 is a post-processor for making PDF

Re: Announcement: Common Power-Management Framework

2005-12-02 Thread Kevin Locke
On Fri, 2005-12-02 at 10:47 +, Matthew Garrett wrote: > Kevin Locke <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Fundamentally, our goal is to create an architecture-independent, > > power-system-independent, and power-daemon-independent system to handle > > power-related events (e.g. lid close, battery

Re: Automatic closing of bugs

2005-12-02 Thread Simon Richter
Hi, Matthew Palmer wrote: Your mission, should you choose to accept it, is dig through the Perl code in merkel:/org/bugs.debian.org/scripts and work out how to add this functionality. You can use "package foo" as a command to control@ to tell it ignore everything that does not affect bugs

Re: Alternate proposal for Declassification of debian-private archives

2005-12-02 Thread Paul Hedderly
My biggest problem with all this is that it's gonna mean a lot of work - for the 'declassifying team' and for people who want to be bothered about commenting on the process is respect of particular email. Thats time that I feel could be better spent. I do understand the motives... -- Paul On Thu

Re: Announcement: Common Power-Management Framework

2005-12-02 Thread Frank Küster
Kevin Locke <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > However, I realize that the > GNOME Power Manager[1], and likely a KDE equivalent, already handles > several of the tasks normally associated with power-management, so > perhaps there is no need for another program to be handling events. > > What are your (

Re: Alternate proposal for Declassification of debian-private archives

2005-12-02 Thread Manoj Srivastava
On Fri, 2 Dec 2005 12:35:28 +1000, Anthony Towns said: > (Followups to -vote) > On Fri, Dec 02, 2005 at 08:30:37AM +1100, Robert Collins wrote: >> The primary reason for this is that the existing messages were sent >> to debian-private with an expectation of privacy. > As Matthew pointed out in

Re: Announcement: Common Power-Management Framework

2005-12-02 Thread Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
On Fri, 02 Dec 2005, Kevin Locke wrote: > What are your (or anyone else's) thoughts about the value of a daemon to > invoke scripts based on the power-related HAL events? Is this > unnecessary given the function of the GNOME Power Manager and > equivalents, or would it have enough value to be wort

Re: master's mail backlog and upgrade time

2005-12-02 Thread paddy
On Thu, Nov 24, 2005 at 06:45:58PM +, Ian Jackson wrote: > So the best idea is indeed for > downstream systems to have policies which are no more strict than > upstream systems. Would it be possible for master to make call-outs to chiark ? would that solve the problem ? Regards, Paddy -- Per

sarge uninstallable !?!

2005-12-02 Thread A Mennucc
hi everybody two friends of mine tried (separately) to install sarge using the netinst cdrom, and failed in both cases, the first part of the install was OK, but, after reboot, when APT was called to upgrade the system, it stopped claiming: E: This installation run will require temporarily remo

Re: sarge uninstallable !?!

2005-12-02 Thread Florian Weimer
* A. Mennucc: > in both cases, the first part of the install was OK, but, after > reboot, when APT was called to upgrade the system, it stopped > claiming: > E: This installation run will require temporarily removing the essential > package e2fsprogs due to a Conflicts/Pre-Depends loop. This is

Re: Automatic closing of bugs

2005-12-02 Thread Kevin B. McCarty
Simon Richter wrote: > Matthew Palmer wrote: > >> Your mission, should you choose to accept it, is dig through the Perl >> code in merkel:/org/bugs.debian.org/scripts and work out how to add >> this functionality. > > You can use "package foo" as a command to control@ to tell it ignore > every

Re: Automatic closing of bugs

2005-12-02 Thread Andrew Vaughan
On Sat, 3 Dec 2005 03:03, Kevin B. McCarty wrote: > Simon Richter wrote: > > Matthew Palmer wrote: > >> Your mission, should you choose to accept it, is dig through the Perl > >> code in merkel:/org/bugs.debian.org/scripts and work out how to add > >> this functionality. > > > > You can use "pack

Re: Announcement: Common Power-Management Framework

2005-12-02 Thread Matthew Garrett
Kevin Locke <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Interesting. I wasn't aware to what extent HAL is able to notify > programs about power-related events. In fact, we had briefly discussed > receiving events from HAL in addition to the power-daemons. Perhaps > with some work, we would be able to rely com

Re: Announcement: Common Power-Management Framework

2005-12-02 Thread Matthew Garrett
Henrique de Moraes Holschuh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > 1. power management is system infrastructure. I can explain WHY it > is so, but I don't think many people would argue that power > management is an user-level service. Whether a laptop suspends when you close the lid is a per-

Re: Automatic closing of bugs

2005-12-02 Thread Luk Claes
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Kevin B. McCarty wrote: > Simon Richter wrote: > > >>Matthew Palmer wrote: >> >> >>>Your mission, should you choose to accept it, is dig through the Perl >>>code in merkel:/org/bugs.debian.org/scripts and work out how to add >>>this functionality.

Re: Announcement: Common Power-Management Framework

2005-12-02 Thread Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
On Fri, 02 Dec 2005, Matthew Garrett wrote: > Henrique de Moraes Holschuh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > 1. power management is system infrastructure. I can explain WHY it > > is so, but I don't think many people would argue that power > > management is an user-level service. > >

Re: sarge uninstallable !?!

2005-12-02 Thread A Mennucc
That day, Florian Weimer wrote > I've seen this as well, but attributed it to an old sarge installer > which used "testing" instead of "sarge" (or "stable") in the installed > sources.list file. In this case, an update from a pre-sarge testing > snapshot (is installed by the base system) to a curr

Bug#341748: ITP: nagios2 -- A host/service/network monitoring and management system

2005-12-02 Thread Sean Finney
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Sean Finney <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 (explanation for why there needs to be a nagios2 given after the blurb) Package name: nagios2 Version : 2.0 (when released) Upstream Author : Ethan Galstad UR

Re: Announcement: Common Power-Management Framework

2005-12-02 Thread Matthew Garrett
Henrique de Moraes Holschuh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Nobody said the user can't give his input on how the service will behave. > That's what the GUI is for, and what configuration files are for. The user needs to be able to configure this without any form of excessive privileges, which means

Re: Automatic closing of bugs

2005-12-02 Thread Thomas Viehmann
Hi Matt, if that would help, I'd include a (n option that allows to) check via bts2ldap + the attached script into dput. That'd be less intrusive than changing the behaviour of Closes:, for better or worse. Kind regards T. -- Thomas Viehmann, http://thomas.viehmann.net/ #!/usr/bin/python import

Re: Automatic closing of bugs

2005-12-02 Thread Thomas Viehmann
Thomas Viehmann wrote: > if sys.stdin.readline()[1:] not in ['y','Y']: For added utility I might want to improve on that. Kind regards T. -- Thomas Viehmann, http://thomas.viehmann.net/ 'What'll we drink to?' Nick asked, holding up the glass. 'Let's drink to testing,' Bill said. 'All right,'

Re: Automatic closing of bugs

2005-12-02 Thread Joey Hess
A lintian-like test to see if the listed bugs match the package before uploading seems more useful to me. It would have prevented this particular problem. Perhaps I am sloppy, but I often find it useful to close some bug in a changelog that I might not necessary have taken the time or remembered t

Re: Automatic closing of bugs

2005-12-02 Thread Otavio Salvador
Joey Hess <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > A lintian-like test to see if the listed bugs match the package before > uploading seems more useful to me. It would have prevented this > particular problem. IMHO, is the best and easier alternative. -- O T A V I OS A L V A D O R

Mail headers (was Re: sarge uninstallable !?!)

2005-12-02 Thread James Vega
On Fri, Dec 02, 2005 at 06:35:19PM +0100, A Mennucc wrote: > That day, Florian Weimer wrote > > By the way, your Mail-Followup-To: header is broken. > > thanks;some time ago I decided to abide by > http://larve.net/people/hugo/2000/07/ml-mutt > but I forgot to fix this account So, shouldn't you

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Re: Bug#340384: backtrace running nonstripped

2005-12-02 Thread Bernd Eckenfels
On Fri, Dec 02, 2005 at 09:26:46AM -0800, Blars Blarson wrote: > Sorry it has taken so long for me to get you this info. thank you very much Blars for the help, this is much apreciated. the bus error on sparc64: > #0 0x701029cc in inet_aton () from /lib/libc.so.6 > #1 0x00013f84 in INET_resol

Re: [RFC] xulrunner, shlibs, and dependencies.

2005-12-02 Thread Travis Crump
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Re: [tex-live] Re: XyMTeX in TeX live

2005-12-02 Thread David Kastrup
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Re: master's mail backlog and upgrade time

2005-12-02 Thread Florian Weimer
> On Thu, Nov 24, 2005 at 06:45:58PM +, Ian Jackson wrote: >> So the best idea is indeed for >> downstream systems to have policies which are no more strict than >> upstream systems. > > Would it be possible for master to make call-outs to chiark ? > would that solve the problem ? I don't thin

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Re: master's mail backlog and upgrade time

2005-12-02 Thread Stephen Gran
This one time, at band camp, Florian Weimer said: > > On Thu, Nov 24, 2005 at 06:45:58PM +, Ian Jackson wrote: > >> So the best idea is indeed for > >> downstream systems to have policies which are no more strict than > >> upstream systems. > > > > Would it be possible for master to make call-o

Re: Automatic closing of bugs

2005-12-02 Thread Matthew Palmer
On Fri, Dec 02, 2005 at 02:22:41PM +0100, Simon Richter wrote: > Matthew Palmer wrote: > > >Your mission, should you choose to accept it, is dig through the Perl code > >in merkel:/org/bugs.debian.org/scripts and work out how to add this > >functionality. > > You can use "package foo" as a comm

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Re: Automatic closing of bugs

2005-12-02 Thread Simon Richter
Hi, Joey Hess schrieb: > A lintian-like test to see if the listed bugs match the package before > uploading seems more useful to me. It would have prevented this > particular problem. The problem here would be that said test requires network connectivity, while the rest of lintian does not.

Re: DebConf5 Final Report released

2005-12-02 Thread Aigars Mahinovs
On 12/3/05, Fabian Fagerholm <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > After several months of work, the DebConf5 Final Report has been > released. The report is intended for a large audience, and includes > impressions and facts from the conference. Whether you were there or > not, we hope you will find the re

Re: Announcement: Common Power-Management Framework

2005-12-02 Thread Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
On Fri, 02 Dec 2005, Matthew Garrett wrote: > Henrique de Moraes Holschuh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Nobody said the user can't give his input on how the service will behave. > > That's what the GUI is for, and what configuration files are for. > > The user needs to be able to configure this w

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Re: [RFC] xulrunner, shlibs, and dependencies.

2005-12-02 Thread Mike Hommey
On Fri, Dec 02, 2005 at 05:52:03PM -0800, Steve Langasek <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Fri, Dec 02, 2005 at 08:47:47PM +0100, Mike Hommey wrote: > > > As you may or may not know, I'm currently working on packaging > > xulrunner, which is ought to be the central point for all future mozilla > >