Re: localhost.localdomain

2005-10-06 Thread Pierre Machard
On Sat, Sep 24, 2005 at 08:33:25PM +0200, Bernd Eckenfels wrote: > In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> you wrote: > > "localdomain" is not a registered top-level domain and hopefully never > > will be, so it is safe to use locally as it won't cause communication > > problems. > > It is not safe to use

Re: Packages that need to be rebuilt agaisnt libssl0.9.8

2005-10-06 Thread Josselin Mouette
Le jeudi 06 octobre 2005 à 08:33 +0200, Aurelien Jarno a écrit : > Christoph Martin a écrit : > > Changes: > > openssl (0.9.8-1) unstable; urgency=low > > . > >* New upstream release (closes: #311826) > > The following list of packages needs to be rebuild, otherwise some of > the binary pa

Re: Packages that need to be rebuilt agaisnt libssl0.9.8

2005-10-06 Thread Marco d'Itri
On Oct 06, Aurelien Jarno <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > The following list of packages needs to be rebuild, otherwise some of > the binary packages they built will be uninstallable after today mirror > push. Maybe bug reports has to be filled? 308 bugs are too many. Starting from next week send a

Re: Bug#331528: ITP: debinstaller -- a graphical frontend for installing local .deb packages

2005-10-06 Thread Peter Samuelson
[Benjamin Seidenberg] > I agree. I think that there should be a way to use apt to install a > .deb with automatic dependency handling (in fact when I first began > using debian I tried several times to install a .deb using apt). I > don't know why this functionality was never written. It seems to

Re: localhost.localdomain

2005-10-06 Thread Klaus Ethgen
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi, Am Do den 6. Okt 2005 um 9:10 schrieb Pierre Machard: > IIRC The main reason was described in #247734 The only reason I find is that RedHat use it. But RedHat shouldn't be debians requirement of quality. It should be other way around. RedHat is

Re: new source package producing "old" deb's is not regarded as NEW

2005-10-06 Thread Frank Küster
Jeroen van Wolffelaar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > As it happens, due to some changes in the details of the override file > handling, new source package names will soon make the package go to NEW too, > even though there already exists a binary package by that name. That the new > source package n

Re: Bug#331528: ITP: debinstaller -- a graphical frontend for installing local .deb packages

2005-10-06 Thread Eduard Bloch
#include * Joe Smith [Wed, Oct 05 2005, 08:22:48PM]: > >I wonder why nobody did implement that feature before. I imagine > >(without knowing much about APT's internals), the pseudocode would look > >like that: > > > >- install command gets the list > >- if the package does not exist in the cache a

Bug#332412: Subject: ITP: shanty -- makes a whopping great postscript file from an image and some text

2005-10-06 Thread Jorge Salamero Sanz
Package: wnpp Owner: Jorge Salamero Sanz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Severity: wishlist * Package name: shanty Version : 3 Upstream Author : Duncan Martin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> * URL : http://www.codebunny.org/coding/shanty/ * License : BSD Description : makes a wh

Partnership between Our Sites

2005-10-06 Thread replicahause
Dear webmaster, I looked at your website - http://lists.debian.org - and I really liked to be your partner. I own a site - http://www.replicahause.com- . Since our sites are not competitive with each other. So, I would like to propose a link exchange partnership with your site. My site gets a lo

Re: localhost.localdomain

2005-10-06 Thread Marco d'Itri
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Oct 06, Klaus Ethgen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > .localdomain is such a peace of shit which only makes troubles. So Please explain which troubles. - -- ciao, Marco -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.1 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFDRP57FGfw

Re: localhost.localdomain

2005-10-06 Thread Klaus Ethgen
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello Marco, Am Do den 6. Okt 2005 um 12:37 schrieb Marco d'Itri: > > .localdomain is such a peace of shit which only makes troubles. So > Please explain which troubles. I cannot specify it. But I remember that I did search for problemes in the past

Re: localhost.localdomain

2005-10-06 Thread Marco d'Itri
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Oct 06, Klaus Ethgen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Am Do den 6. Okt 2005 um 12:37 schrieb Marco d'Itri: > > > .localdomain is such a peace of shit which only makes troubles. So > > Please explain which troubles. > I cannot specify it. But I remembe

alternative for pdf-viewer

2005-10-06 Thread Steffen Joeris
Hi Is it possible to get an alternative for a pdf-viewer, so that you can choose /etc/alternatives/pdf-viewer in the code and this will link to a free viewer, e.g. kghostview or gpdf? Greetings Steffen -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Co

Re: localhost.localdomain

2005-10-06 Thread Klaus Ethgen
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi Marco, unfortunality your mail address is not valid so I answer you here. Am Do den 6. Okt 2005 um 13:48 schrieb Marco d'Itri: > In other words, you don't know and are just handwaving. Next? No, I just do not remember which software it was. I ab

Re: localhost.localdomain

2005-10-06 Thread Marco d'Itri
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Oct 06, Klaus Ethgen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > unfortunality your mail address is not valid so I answer you here. My email address is perfectly valid, it's your system which is misconfigured: Oct 6 13:42:11 picard postfix/smtpd[4344]: NOQUEUE:

Re: localhost.localdomain

2005-10-06 Thread Wouter Verhelst
On Thu, Oct 06, 2005 at 02:04:44PM +0200, Klaus Ethgen wrote: > Hi Marco, > > unfortunality your mail address is not valid so I answer you here. > > Am Do den 6. Okt 2005 um 13:48 schrieb Marco d'Itri: > > In other words, you don't know and are just handwaving. Next? > > No, I just do not remem

Re: alternative for pdf-viewer

2005-10-06 Thread Frank Küster
Steffen Joeris <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi > > Is it possible to get an alternative for a pdf-viewer, so that you can > choose /etc/alternatives/pdf-viewer in the code and this will link to a free > viewer, e.g. kghostview or gpdf? Can't you just use "see $filename" and rely on the mailcap

Re: localhost.localdomain

2005-10-06 Thread Klaus Ethgen
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello, Am Do den 6. Okt 2005 um 14:22 schrieb Wouter Verhelst: > That's not helpful. True. Thats the reason why I give more helpfull information too in the first mail. > indeed cause many problems, we could consider not using it by default > anymor

Re: alternative for pdf-viewer

2005-10-06 Thread Jonas Smedegaard
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Please avoid cross-posting. And if you do it anyway, then make sure to indicate a single list to continue discussion. As your question is not specific to the development of Linux for schools, I propose to post replies only on -devel. Kind regards,

Re: localhost.localdomain

2005-10-06 Thread Steve Greenland
On 06-Oct-05, 07:22 (CDT), Wouter Verhelst <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Thu, Oct 06, 2005 at 02:04:44PM +0200, Klaus Ethgen wrote: > Problems can have many causes. One of them may be that > localhost.localdomain is unexpected; another may be that the software > you were using is buggy, or misco

applet showing the current XkbLayout

2005-10-06 Thread gustavo halperin
Hello I'm using enlightenment without KDE and without Gnome. My XFree86 is configured with three keyboard layout:    Option  "XkbLayout" "es,il,us"    Option  "XkbOptions"    "grp:shift_toggle" My question is how I can cache when ever the keyboard Layout change an

When is the C++ transition needed?

2005-10-06 Thread Henning Makholm
I notice that the newest upload of pstoedit has reverted the C++ transition name change; instead of libpstoedit0c2 sid now contains libpstoedit0, as in sarge. However, the library exports things with interfaces such as #ifdef __cplusplus extern "C" DLLEXPORT int pstoeditwithghostscript(int argc,

Effort to change IETF's copying conditions for RFCs

2005-10-06 Thread Simon Josefsson
Hi everyone! I know the copying conditions of IETF RFC's has been a concern for Debian in the past, and that the RFCs has been removed from the official archive (?), so I thought this would be of some interest to you. I am trying to influence the IETF to change the copying conditions on RFCs to m

Re: Packages that need to be rebuilt agaisnt libssl0.9.8

2005-10-06 Thread Jonas Meurer
On 06/10/2005 Aurelien Jarno wrote: > Christoph Martin a écrit : > >Changes: > > openssl (0.9.8-1) unstable; urgency=low > > . > > * New upstream release (closes: #311826) > > The following list of packages needs to be rebuild, otherwise some of > the binary packages they built will be uninsta

Re: localhost.localdomain

2005-10-06 Thread Stefano Zacchiroli
On Thu, Oct 06, 2005 at 01:43:29PM +0200, Klaus Ethgen wrote: > I cannot specify it. But I remember that I did search for problemes in > the past long time to find a error. And it was an entry of > localhost.localdomain in a /etc/hosts. Maybe it was PVM or MySQL or > other. I'm not sure. IIRC leaf

Re: localhost.localdomain

2005-10-06 Thread John Hasler
Klaus Ethgen writes: > Thats the reason why I give more helpfull information too in the first > mail. You haven't given enough information. > But why changing "localhost" to "localhost.localdomain"... It wasn't changed. "localhost.localdomain" was _added_. "localhost" is still there. > There

Re: dh_libtool proposal (-dev dependencies on -dev from libtool)

2005-10-06 Thread Stephen Frost
* Peter Samuelson ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > I'd argue to go one step further and invent a virtual package like > 'no-static-link-support' (well, a shorter name would be better) and > generate each dependency on "libfoo-dev | no-static-link-support". > Then I can install one little equivs package

Re: localhost.localdomain

2005-10-06 Thread Gabor Gombas
On Thu, Oct 06, 2005 at 07:31:37AM -0500, Steve Greenland wrote: > When proposing a variation from long-standing historical practice, > shouldn't the onus be on the on making the change? What problem does > 'localhost.localdomain' solve? Why is is better than just 'localhost', > which has been com

Re: localhost.localdomain

2005-10-06 Thread Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
On Thu, 06 Oct 2005, Marco d'Itri wrote: > On Oct 06, Klaus Ethgen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > .localdomain is such a peace of shit which only makes troubles. So > Please explain which troubles. Some programs will try to solve the reverse for 127.0.0.1, during normal operations (not to verify W

Re: localhost.localdomain

2005-10-06 Thread Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
On Thu, 06 Oct 2005, Gabor Gombas wrote: > It's being long-standing does not mean it's correct. I started looking But it means it is a de-facto standard, which it *is*. Every *nix system I have mucked around with in the last five years, with the exception of a few Linux distributions, uses plain

Re: localhost.localdomain

2005-10-06 Thread Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
On Thu, 06 Oct 2005, John Hasler wrote: > > But why changing "localhost" to "localhost.localdomain"... > > It wasn't changed. "localhost.localdomain" was _added_. "localhost" is > still there. The first entry is the canonical name, and it is what the reverse maps to. So yes, it WAS changed, and

Re: dh_libtool proposal (-dev dependencies on -dev from libtool)

2005-10-06 Thread Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
On Thu, 06 Oct 2005, Stephen Frost wrote: > don't include static library dependencies in the Depends. libtool does > actually survive just fine if the first-level .la files go missing in Correct. > fact, as I recall, it's the ones below that which cause it to break, > even for shared linking whe

Re: dh_libtool proposal (-dev dependencies on -dev from libtool)

2005-10-06 Thread Jay Berkenbilt
Hello all. I've read enough of this thread to be convinced that dh_libtool is not a good idea and not worth pursuing. Thanks for all the insightful comments. Perhaps a lintian check, as suggested by Joey Hess in the bug 192008 would be better, or perhaps we should just focus energies on fixing

Re: localhost.localdomain

2005-10-06 Thread Steve Greenland
On 06-Oct-05, 08:25 (CDT), Gabor Gombas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > It's being long-standing does not mean it's correct. No, but it doesn't make changing it correct, either. Again: what actual technical problem is solved by 'localhost.localdomain"? Is solving that problem worth the potential

Re: Packages that need to be rebuilt agaisnt libssl0.9.8

2005-10-06 Thread Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
On Thu, 06 Oct 2005, Aurelien Jarno wrote: > The following list of packages needs to be rebuild, otherwise some of > the binary packages they built will be uninstallable after today mirror > push. Maybe bug reports has to be filled? Next time, please give us at least a three-days advance warning

Re: Packages that need to be rebuilt agaisnt libssl0.9.8

2005-10-06 Thread Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
Is there any chances of versioning openssl symbols properly? I am not asking for 0.9.7 and 0.9.8 to coexist (although versioned symbols would make that trivial), but PLEASE version the symbols. Suggested version tag: OPENSSL_0_9_8 -- "One disk to rule them all, One disk to find them. One dis

Re: Packages that need to be rebuilt agaisnt libssl0.9.8

2005-10-06 Thread sean finney
On Thu, Oct 06, 2005 at 08:33:19AM +0200, Aurelien Jarno wrote: > Christoph Martin a écrit : > >Changes: > > openssl (0.9.8-1) unstable; urgency=low > > . > > * New upstream release (closes: #311826) > > The following list of packages needs to be rebuild, otherwise some of > the binary package

Re: alternative for pdf-viewer

2005-10-06 Thread Hamish Moffatt
On Thu, Oct 06, 2005 at 02:32:53PM +0200, Frank Küster wrote: > Steffen Joeris <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Is it possible to get an alternative for a pdf-viewer, so that you can > > choose /etc/alternatives/pdf-viewer in the code and this will link to a > > free > > viewer, e.g. kghostview or

Re: localhost.localdomain

2005-10-06 Thread John Hasler
I wrote: > It wasn't changed. "localhost.localdomain" was _added_. "localhost" is > still there. Henrique de Moraes Holschuh writes: > The first entry is the canonical name, and it is what the reverse maps > to. So yes, it WAS changed, and very much so. The OP seemed to me to be implying that

Re: Packages that need to be rebuilt agaisnt libssl0.9.8

2005-10-06 Thread Frank Küster
sean finney <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > and furthermore, there are some of us who have been quietly waiting for > things to settle down from the previous major transitions before doing > our own, at the request of the release team. I'm only following d-d-a, -private, and -devel, but that only pa

Re: localhost.localdomain

2005-10-06 Thread Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
On Thu, 06 Oct 2005, Pierre Machard wrote: > On Sat, Sep 24, 2005 at 08:33:25PM +0200, Bernd Eckenfels wrote: > > In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> you wrote: > > > "localdomain" is not a registered top-level domain and hopefully never > > > will be, so it is safe to use locally as it won't cause comm

Re: localhost.localdomain

2005-10-06 Thread Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
On Thu, 06 Oct 2005, John Hasler wrote: > Read the discussion in the bug report. I think "localhost.localdomain" is I did. "localhost.localdomain" solved no problems, it was not even related to the problem they were trying to fix, and it certainly is not part of the best compromise solution (add

Re: Packages that need to be rebuilt agaisnt libssl0.9.8

2005-10-06 Thread Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
On Thu, 06 Oct 2005, Alastair McKinstry wrote: > On Thu, 2005-10-06 at 11:24 -0300, Henrique de Moraes Holschuh wrote: > > Is there any chances of versioning openssl symbols properly? > > > > I am not asking for 0.9.7 and 0.9.8 to coexist (although versioned symbols > > would make that trivial), b

Re: Packages that need to be rebuilt agaisnt libssl0.9.8

2005-10-06 Thread Alastair McKinstry
On Thu, 2005-10-06 at 11:24 -0300, Henrique de Moraes Holschuh wrote: > Is there any chances of versioning openssl symbols properly? > > I am not asking for 0.9.7 and 0.9.8 to coexist (although versioned symbols > would make that trivial), but PLEASE version the symbols. > > Suggested version tag

Re: alternative for pdf-viewer

2005-10-06 Thread Frank Küster
Hamish Moffatt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Thu, Oct 06, 2005 at 02:32:53PM +0200, Frank Küster wrote: >> Steffen Joeris <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> > Is it possible to get an alternative for a pdf-viewer, so that you can >> > choose /etc/alternatives/pdf-viewer in the code and this will lin

Re: Packages that need to be rebuilt agaisnt libssl0.9.8

2005-10-06 Thread Andreas Barth
* Frank Küster ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [051006 17:13]: > sean finney <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > and furthermore, there are some of us who have been quietly waiting for > > things to settle down from the previous major transitions before doing > > our own, at the request of the release team. > >

Re: Packages that need to be rebuilt agaisnt libssl0.9.8

2005-10-06 Thread Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
On Thu, 06 Oct 2005, Josselin Mouette wrote: > Furthermore, as OpenSSL symbols aren't versioned, this will lead to > random crashes if a binary ends up being linked to both version, won't > it? Oh crap! OpenSSL *must* version its symbols, it is the kind of lib that ends up linked to libs that end

Re: When is the C++ transition needed?

2005-10-06 Thread Brian M. Carlson
On Thursday 06 October 2005 12:45, Henning Makholm wrote: > I notice that the newest upload of pstoedit has reverted the C++ > transition name change; instead of libpstoedit0c2 sid now contains > libpstoedit0, as in sarge. This is, IMHO, incorrect. > However, the library exports things with inter

Re: When is the C++ transition needed?

2005-10-06 Thread Olaf van der Spek
On 10/6/05, Brian M. Carlson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Thursday 06 October 2005 12:45, Henning Makholm wrote: > > I notice that the newest upload of pstoedit has reverted the C++ > > transition name change; instead of libpstoedit0c2 sid now contains > > libpstoedit0, as in sarge. > > This is,

Re: localhost.localdomain

2005-10-06 Thread Pierre Machard
Hi, On Thu, Oct 06, 2005 at 12:24:12PM -0300, Henrique de Moraes Holschuh wrote: > On Thu, 06 Oct 2005, Pierre Machard wrote: > > On Sat, Sep 24, 2005 at 08:33:25PM +0200, Bernd Eckenfels wrote: > > > In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> you wrote: > > > > "localdomain" is not a registered top-level dom

Re: Packages that need to be rebuilt agaisnt libssl0.9.8

2005-10-06 Thread Joey Hess
Jonas Meurer wrote: > > conserver > > this package does not exist in debian It's in non-free -- see shy jo signature.asc Description: Digital signature

Re: Bug#331528: ITP: debinstaller -- a graphical frontend for installing local .deb packages

2005-10-06 Thread Joe Smith
"Eduard Bloch" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED] would it not be simpler to have have apt just ask dpkg what the dependencies of the passed .deb are and then install the dependencies (and their dependecies) and then just pass the deb directly to dpkg? Hehe, it wa

Re: localhost.localdomain

2005-10-06 Thread Russ Allbery
Marco d'Itri <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On Oct 06, Klaus Ethgen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> .localdomain is such a peace of shit which only makes troubles. So > Please explain which troubles. See the news.software.nntp traffic with people having strange problems with pathnames and message I

Re: Effort to change IETF's copying conditions for RFCs

2005-10-06 Thread Florian Weimer
* Simon Josefsson: > I explain the current problems, and I try to put together a proposed > update, and I have a petition online at: > > http://josefsson.org/bcp78broken/ Very nice, thanks. I think you might get broader support in the vendor community if you make the license for modified copying

Re: localhost.localdomain

2005-10-06 Thread Gabor Gombas
On Thu, Oct 06, 2005 at 07:44:42PM +0200, Pierre Machard wrote: > I can not remember precisely. I think that at that time I was testing the > debian-installer and I saw it was taken a long while to boot. I saw > that my system had no FQDN (hostname -f). When you add .localdomain, the > FQDN is com

Re: localhost.localdomain

2005-10-06 Thread Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
On Thu, 06 Oct 2005, Pierre Machard wrote: > Anyway I do not understand why this issue is a problem since we Because instead of doing this: 127.0.0.1 localost localhost.localdomain It was done like this: 127.0.0.1 localhost.localdomain localhost Thus changing the canonical name of the loopback

Re: localhost.localdomain

2005-10-06 Thread Marco d'Itri
On Oct 06, Russ Allbery <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > See the news.software.nntp traffic with people having strange problems > with pathnames and message ID generation because of .localdomain. There > have been a few separate cases of that over the past year or so. Not relevant. They would have th

Re: localhost.localdomain

2005-10-06 Thread Marco d'Itri
On Oct 06, Henrique de Moraes Holschuh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Because instead of doing this: > > 127.0.0.1 localost localhost.localdomain > > It was done like this: > > 127.0.0.1 localhost.localdomain localhost > > Thus changing the canonical name of the loopback interface. PLEASE do no

Re: localhost.localdomain

2005-10-06 Thread Pierre Machard
On Thu, Oct 06, 2005 at 03:23:45PM -0300, Henrique de Moraes Holschuh wrote: > On Thu, 06 Oct 2005, Pierre Machard wrote: > > Anyway I do not understand why this issue is a problem since we > > Because instead of doing this: > > 127.0.0.1 localost localhost.localdomain > > It was done like this:

Re: localhost.localdomain

2005-10-06 Thread Bernd Eckenfels
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> you wrote: > I can not remember precisely. I think that at that time I was testing the > debian-installer and I saw it was taken a long while to boot. I saw > that my system had no FQDN (hostname -f). When you add .localdomain, the > FQDN is complete and it helps to s

Re: When is the C++ transition needed?

2005-10-06 Thread Daniel Jacobowitz
On Thu, Oct 06, 2005 at 05:35:34PM +, Brian M. Carlson wrote: > On Thursday 06 October 2005 12:45, Henning Makholm wrote: > > I notice that the newest upload of pstoedit has reverted the C++ > > transition name change; instead of libpstoedit0c2 sid now contains > > libpstoedit0, as in sarge. >

Re: localhost.localdomain

2005-10-06 Thread Joey Hess
Henrique de Moraes Holschuh wrote: > Because instead of doing this: > > 127.0.0.1 localost localhost.localdomain > > It was done like this: > > 127.0.0.1 localhost.localdomain localhost > > Thus changing the canonical name of the loopback interface. PLEASE do not > do this unless you have *extr

Re: localhost.localdomain

2005-10-06 Thread Russ Allbery
Marco d'Itri <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On Oct 06, Russ Allbery <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> See the news.software.nntp traffic with people having strange problems >> with pathnames and message ID generation because of .localdomain. >> There have been a few separate cases of that over the past

Re: localhost.localdomain

2005-10-06 Thread Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
On Thu, 06 Oct 2005, Pierre Machard wrote: > The fact is that nobody complained about that... and my bug was Now we are :) > repported more than one year and a half ago. Plus It was disscussed on > debian-devel. Please do not argue with me! It is nothing personal... it is just that your email w

Re: localhost.localdomain

2005-10-06 Thread Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
On Thu, 06 Oct 2005, Joey Hess wrote: > FWIW, it was done as a result of bug #247734, which includes details on > how every possible choice seems to break something and the reasoning > that led to the current choice. I read that bug report VERY carefully. Twice. There is *nothing* there that seems

Re: Packages that need to be rebuilt agaisnt libssl0.9.8

2005-10-06 Thread Christoph Martin
Andreas Barth schrieb: > * Frank Küster ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [051006 17:13]: > >>sean finney <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >> >>>and furthermore, there are some of us who have been quietly waiting for >>>things to settle down from the previous major transitions before doing >>>our own, at the reque

Re: localhost.localdomain

2005-10-06 Thread Mark Brown
On Thu, Oct 06, 2005 at 03:17:53PM +0200, Stefano Zacchiroli wrote: > IIRC leafnode complains about "localhost.localdomain" refusing to suck > news unless you manually specify a domainname in its configuration file. > Maybe you remember that trouble? > Still, I've ever considered that an issue wi

Bug#332498: RFH: openssl -- Secure Socket Layer (SSL) binary and related cryptographic tools

2005-10-06 Thread Christoph Martin
Package: wnpp Severity: normal I request assistance with maintaining the openssl package. I am currently the only maintainer, but this package really needs a team to work on it. Too many packages depend on the library which therefore has priority important. The package description is: This pac

Re: localhost.localdomain

2005-10-06 Thread Stefano Zacchiroli
On Thu, Oct 06, 2005 at 09:38:03PM +0100, Mark Brown wrote: > It's complaining because upstream wishes to strongly encourage users to > configure things so that they have a globally unique hostname part to > message IDs that are generated by Leafnode in order to minimise the risk IMHO is too much

Re: localhost.localdomain

2005-10-06 Thread Mark Brown
On Thu, Oct 06, 2005 at 05:02:55PM -0300, Henrique de Moraes Holschuh wrote: > Or am I getting confused and d-i uses localhost.localdomain as the default > hostname, and say, if I had told it that my machine is named "twerk", domain > "foo.bar" I would get a > 127.0.0.1 twerk.foo.bar twerk localh

Re: localhost.localdomain

2005-10-06 Thread Mark Brown
On Thu, Oct 06, 2005 at 10:41:13PM +0200, Stefano Zacchiroli wrote: > On Thu, Oct 06, 2005 at 09:38:03PM +0100, Mark Brown wrote: > > It's complaining because upstream wishes to strongly encourage users to > > configure things so that they have a globally unique hostname part to > > message IDs th

Re: Packages that need to be rebuilt agaisnt libssl0.9.8

2005-10-06 Thread Jeroen van Wolffelaar
On Thu, Oct 06, 2005 at 10:20:12PM +0200, Christoph Martin wrote: > a lot of people bugged me about the new version and upstream only recommends > this version. It also closes a grave security bug. Hm, that wasn't listed in the changelog. Anyway, there hasn't been a security advisory about openssl

Re: localhost.localdomain

2005-10-06 Thread John Hasler
Russ Allbery writes: > No, they won't, because INN ignores hostnames that do not contain a > period for the purposes of generating external identifiers, specifically > to keep from using things like localhost or other unqualified names that > aren't globally unique. Relying on hostnames either wit

Re: localhost.localdomain

2005-10-06 Thread John Hasler
Stefano Zacchiroli writes: > IMHO is too much to inhibit the use of the program as a whole just to > minimize the collision risk, a warning would have been enough. Particularly considering that there are better ways to assure the uniqueness of message-ids anyway. -- John Hasler -- To UNSUBSCRI

Re: localhost.localdomain

2005-10-06 Thread Russ Allbery
John Hasler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Russ Allbery writes: >> No, they won't, because INN ignores hostnames that do not contain a >> period for the purposes of generating external identifiers, >> specifically to keep from using things like localhost or other >> unqualified names that aren't gl

Re: Bug#332498: RFH: openssl -- Secure Socket Layer (SSL) binary and related cryptographic tools

2005-10-06 Thread Kurt Roeckx
On Thu, Oct 06, 2005 at 10:07:01PM +0200, Christoph Martin wrote: > Package: wnpp > Severity: normal > > > I request assistance with maintaining the openssl package. > > I am currently the only maintainer, but this package really needs a > team to work on it. Too many packages depend on the libr

Re: Packages that need to be rebuilt agaisnt libssl0.9.8

2005-10-06 Thread Moritz Muehlenhoff
In linux.debian.devel, you wrote: >> a lot of people bugged me about the new version and upstream only recommends >> this version. It also closes a grave security bug. > > Hm, that wasn't listed in the changelog. Anyway, there hasn't been a security > advisory about openssl recently, did you backpo

Re: localhost.localdomain

2005-10-06 Thread Wesley J. Landaker
On Thursday 06 October 2005 14:02, Henrique de Moraes Holschuh wrote: > On Thu, 06 Oct 2005, Joey Hess wrote: > > FWIW, it was done as a result of bug #247734, which includes details on > > how every possible choice seems to break something and the reasoning > > that led to the current choice. > >

Re: Effort to change IETF's copying conditions for RFCs

2005-10-06 Thread Wesley J. Landaker
On Thursday 06 October 2005 06:57, Simon Josefsson wrote: > Hi everyone! > > I know the copying conditions of IETF RFC's has been a concern for > Debian in the past, and that the RFCs has been removed from the > official archive (?), so I thought this would be of some interest to > you. I am tryin

Re: Effort to change IETF's copying conditions for RFCs

2005-10-06 Thread Russ Allbery
Wesley J Landaker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On Thursday 06 October 2005 06:57, Simon Josefsson wrote: >> I know the copying conditions of IETF RFC's has been a concern for >> Debian in the past, and that the RFCs has been removed from the >> official archive (?), If they haven't been yet, the

Best practices for kernel modules

2005-10-06 Thread Russ Allbery
Hello all, I'm one of the maintainers of OpenAFS, a distributed file system whose client involves a kernel module. Currently, the OpenAFS package builds an openafs-modules-source package but doesn't build any binary module packages, so each user has to build their own kernel modules with make-kpk

Re: Bug#331528: ITP: debinstaller -- a graphical frontend for installing local .deb packages

2005-10-06 Thread Daniel Burrows
On Thu, Oct 06, 2005 at 01:50:26PM -0400, Joe Smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> was heard to say: > "Eduard Bloch" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message > >Hehe, it was my first thought about a possible solution, howerver: > >You also need the Conflicts string. And while the dependencies/conflicts > >are

Re: Bug#331528: ITP: debinstaller -- a graphical frontend for installing local .deb packages

2005-10-06 Thread Daniel Burrows
On Tue, Oct 04, 2005 at 01:10:42PM +0200, Eduard Bloch wrote: > #include > * Josselin Mouette [Tue, Oct 04 2005, 10:10:22AM]: > > > > Far too often people (read: newbies) get confused when they can't get > > > *insert favorite package manager* to install the .deb's they've just > > > downloaded.

Re: Packages that need to be rebuilt agaisnt libssl0.9.8

2005-10-06 Thread Anthony DeRobertis
Moritz Muehlenhoff wrote: > Upgrading to SHA-1 is still a good idea, of course, Correct me if I'm wrong, but haven't there been collision attacks on SHA-1, too? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: When is the C++ transition needed?

2005-10-06 Thread Nathanael Nerode
Brian Carlson wrote: >> You must not pass by reference with an extern "C" declaration, because C >> doesn't support that. Dan Jacobowitz wrote: >Why not? An extern C definition doesn't mean that it needs to be >usable from C. It just means to use the C calling convention. Perhaps because there i

Re: Packages that need to be rebuilt agaisnt libssl0.9.8

2005-10-06 Thread Nathanael Nerode
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > But I don't think that versioning the >symbols in Debian alone would be such a good idea. Than we would be >incompatible with other distributions. Well, only in one direction if I remember my versioning rules correctly. Consider the following cases: * binary built against

Re: Packages that need to be rebuilt agaisnt libssl0.9.8

2005-10-06 Thread Russ Allbery
Nathanael Nerode <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Well, only in one direction if I remember my versioning rules correctly. > Consider the following cases: > * binary built against unversioned libssl from other distro, running with > versioned libssl on Debian > Breaks because it can't find the symb

gnome-1 transition

2005-10-06 Thread Thomas Bushnell BSG
A few weeks ago, libpng10-0 was removed from the archive. A consequence of this was that all gnome-1 packages (and there are a number still around) instantly became FTBFS. I am now the de-facto gnome-1 tsar, but I don't intend to do much other than keep things limping along. I am doing this bec

Re: Packages that need to be rebuilt agaisnt libssl0.9.8

2005-10-06 Thread Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
On Thu, 06 Oct 2005, Russ Allbery wrote: > At least in my testing, binaries built against an unversioned library work > fine with a versioned library. Maybe I wasn't testing properly? You are correct, they work just fine. DEPENDING on the version of ld.so, you might get a helpful warning, but th

Re: Effort to change IETF's copying conditions for RFCs

2005-10-06 Thread Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
On Thu, 06 Oct 2005, Russ Allbery wrote: > Unlimited distribution isn't the problem. Modification and redistribution > of modified versions is the problem, and that restriction was apparently If the IETF allows modified versions that are *RENAMED*, then it would meet the DFSG. They can even rest

Re: localhost.localdomain

2005-10-06 Thread Bernd Eckenfels
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> you wrote: > So it was just papering over a real bug, namely the existence of the > "-f" option of hostname. "hostname -f" assumes that the hostname (as > returned by gethostname(3)) has something to do with networking, which > is false. It also assumes that the syste

Re: localhost.localdomain

2005-10-06 Thread Stig Sandbeck Mathisen
Gabor Gombas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Ok, after a quick googling I found that this bug has already been > reported for MySQL: http://bugs.mysql.com/11822 and is fixed in > MySQL 5.0.11. So if it bothers you, you should upgrade. Changing the canonical name of localhost is an arbitrary change

Re: localhost.localdomain

2005-10-06 Thread Stig Sandbeck Mathisen
Pierre Machard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Anyway I do not understand why this issue is a problem since we > simply add an alias to localhost. Nobody say that we will remove > localhost and exchange it by localhost.localdomain. If what you wanted to do was to add an alias, you should have read

Re: localhost.localdomain

2005-10-06 Thread Lionel Elie Mamane
On Thu, Oct 06, 2005 at 03:25:15PM +0200, Gabor Gombas wrote: > On Thu, Oct 06, 2005 at 07:31:37AM -0500, Steve Greenland wrote: >> When proposing a variation from long-standing historical practice, >> shouldn't the onus be on the on making the change? What problem does >> 'localhost.localdomain'

Re: Effort to change IETF's copying conditions for RFCs

2005-10-06 Thread Russ Allbery
Henrique de Moraes Holschuh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On Thu, 06 Oct 2005, Russ Allbery wrote: >> Unlimited distribution isn't the problem. Modification and >> redistribution of modified versions is the problem, and that >> restriction was apparently > If the IETF allows modified versions th

Re: Effort to change IETF's copying conditions for RFCs

2005-10-06 Thread Paul TBBle Hampson
On Thu, Oct 06, 2005 at 11:16:03PM -0700, Russ Allbery wrote: > Henrique de Moraes Holschuh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >> On Thu, 06 Oct 2005, Russ Allbery wrote: >>> Unlimited distribution isn't the problem. Modification and >>> redistribution of modified versions is the problem, and that >>> r

Work-needing packages report for Oct 7, 2005

2005-10-06 Thread wnpp
The following is a listing of packages for which help has been requested through the WNPP (Work-Needing and Prospective Packages) system in the last week. Total number of orphaned packages: 188 (new: 3) Total number of packages offered up for adoption: 87 (new: 11) Total number of packages request