Help in gcc-4.0.x transition issue

2005-08-26 Thread Andreas Tille
Hi, I tried to build arb packages (non-free) with gcc 4.0.1 (testing) and 4.0.2 (unstable) but failed. Upstream is currently busy and is not able to care for this issue in the time I plan a new upload. (This does not mean that upstream is dead but people are happy with gcc 4.0.0 so this problem

Re: making developer location from ldap public?

2005-08-26 Thread Ron Johnson
On Fri, 2005-08-26 at 08:41 +0200, Petter Reinholdtsen wrote: > [Robert Lemmen] > > db.debian.org contains (optional) fields for the location of each > > developer, an information which currently is only used to generate > > edwards's fancy maps. there are other potential uses for this, like > >

Re: better init.d/* : who carres ?

2005-08-26 Thread Marc Chantreux
Henrique de Moraes Holschuh a écrit : Note that using dash is probably MUCH faster than perl. I don't know about zsh. it's not always true : it just depends on your problems and solutions : write a dash script to open a lot of pipes between grep,sed,awk and other filters to treat a lot of f

Re: making developer location from ldap public?

2005-08-26 Thread Thomas Bushnell BSG
Javier Fernández-Sanguino Peña <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Generally speaking, you can't turn something that everybody thought > it was private into a public thingy without asking them to confirm > that they don't mind it. And, no, not every DD will read this thread > so a field in the database

Re: better init.d/* : who carres ?

2005-08-26 Thread Marc Chantreux
Henrique de Moraes Holschuh a écrit : Anyway, just make triple sure to never use anything from /usr in a script that otherwise only needs / to work. If you find anything like that, report it as a important (usually whatever it is starts after /usr is mounted) or grave (it starts befure /usr is

Re: making developer location from ldap public?

2005-08-26 Thread Robert Lemmen
On Thu, Aug 25, 2005 at 07:42:12PM -0700, Thomas Bushnell BSG wrote: > I don't understand why making it possible to find fellow Debian > Developers this way should in effect make the information public. > > Why not simply hide it behind the password screen? because it's not only targeted at debia

Re: making developer location from ldap public?

2005-08-26 Thread Robert Lemmen
On Fri, Aug 26, 2005 at 08:41:42AM +0200, Petter Reinholdtsen wrote: > There are ways to use this information without making the location > public. We could add a geo-location search field, and then show the > developers with geo-location closest to the point of interest, and > their distance to t

Re: making developer location from ldap public?

2005-08-26 Thread Robert Lemmen
On Fri, Aug 26, 2005 at 08:32:32AM +0200, Javier Fernández-Sanguino Peña wrote: > Generally speaking, you can't turn something that everybody thought > it was private into a public thingy without asking them to confirm > that they don't mind it. And, no, not every DD will read this thread > so a fi

Re: Debian shared libs use far more memory than required

2005-08-26 Thread Thiemo Seufer
Stephane Chauveau wrote: > Thiemo Seufer wrote: > > >Andreas Barth wrote: > >[snip] > > > > > >>>DEBIAN PACKAGE FROM REPOSITORY: > >>>11 .rodata 000840cb 0021a180 0021a180 ... > >>>21 .data 000233c0 003f1d60 003f1d60 ... > >>> > >>>MY OWN RECOMP

Re: Bug#322282: ITP: swapspace -- Dynamic swap space manager

2005-08-26 Thread Jeroen Vermeulen
On Thu, Aug 18, 2005 at 03:28:39AM -0500, Peter Samuelson wrote: > You've got it. That was the point of contention. The real objection Thanks for a lucid explanation, and my apologies for a late followup. > If you think your package really is only useful on Debian-like systems, > it may be o

Re: Dogme05: Team Maintenance

2005-08-26 Thread Florian Weimer
* W. Borgert: > A fine way to do this, is by having a pkg- project at > alioth.debian.org. Please keep in mind that responsible maintainers do not depend on unmaintained services such as alioth.debian.org. If you must use it, make sure that you make periodic copies of archives stored on costa.

Re: Documentation of alioth?

2005-08-26 Thread Florian Weimer
* Raphaël Hertzog: > Le dimanche 07 août 2005 à 11:39 +0200, Florian Weimer a écrit : >> What's the benefit of diagnosing the problem if it isn't fixed? > > It lets people with the required privileges fix the problem without > having to investigate it first. For the record: The bug hasn't been fi

Re: Documentation of alioth?

2005-08-26 Thread Raphaël Hertzog
[ I keep the discussion because I want Wichert to read it ] Le vendredi 26 août 2005 à 11:26 +0200, Florian Weimer a écrit : > > It lets people with the required privileges fix the problem without > > having to investigate it first. > > For the record: The bug hasn't been fixed yet. > > > If lif

Re: Bug#324179: ITP: quake3 -- a famous first person shooter by ID-Software

2005-08-26 Thread Vincent Caron
On Sat, 2005-08-20 at 20:16 +0200, Bastian Venthur wrote: > Package: wnpp > Severity: wishlist > Owner: Bastian Venthur <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > * Package name: quake3 > Version : x.y.z > Upstream Author : ID-Software > * URL : http://www.idsoftware.com/ > * License

Re: Documentation of alioth?

2005-08-26 Thread Martin Schulze
Raphaël Hertzog wrote: > I know Wichert is a bit disappointed because despite all the > money/sponsors we have, we're waiting for more than a year for a new > machine. The main problems appears to be DSA who must give an approval > that they're willing to admin the machine before we can decide to b

Re: Documentation of alioth?

2005-08-26 Thread Raphaël Hertzog
Le vendredi 26 août 2005 à 12:04 +0200, Martin Schulze a écrit : > Hi Raphaël, Hi Joey, > I'm sorry, but I have to tell you that you're wrong in your assertion. I've been corrected by Wiggy on IRC too. Although what I said before was not invented, I've read part of it in #debian-devel in the mou

Re: Documentation of alioth?

2005-08-26 Thread Bastian Blank
On Fri, Aug 26, 2005 at 12:23:14PM +0200, Raphaël Hertzog wrote: > Maybe a brief status of the "hardware donations" people would be nice ? IBM loaned 2 OpenPower machines for Debian but noone wants them. Okay, they have one problem, only 4x 73 GB disk space. Bastian -- Dammit Jim, I'm an actor,

Re: Documentation of alioth?

2005-08-26 Thread Florian Weimer
* Bastian Blank: > On Fri, Aug 26, 2005 at 12:23:14PM +0200, Raphaël Hertzog wrote: >> Maybe a brief status of the "hardware donations" people would be nice ? > > IBM loaned 2 OpenPower machines for Debian but noone wants them. Okay, > they have one problem, only 4x 73 GB disk space. Some develop

get-orig-source target in debian/rules

2005-08-26 Thread George Danchev
Hello, I would like to ask if it is a good idea to have some code in cdbs implementing the get-orig-source target which could then be included in debian/rules. Rationale: * Since it is a common target I think it could be provided by cdbs or any similar package and should not b

Re: get-orig-source target in debian/rules

2005-08-26 Thread George Danchev
On Friday 26 August 2005 14:03, George Danchev wrote: > Hello, > > I would like to ask if it is a good idea to have some code in cdbs > implementing the get-orig-source target which could then be included in > debian/rules. Over ;-) Marc Haber was extremely fast pointing to the right packa

Re: better init.d/* : who carres ?

2005-08-26 Thread David Weinehall
On Thu, Aug 25, 2005 at 12:17:56PM -0300, Henrique de Moraes Holschuh wrote: > On Thu, 25 Aug 2005, Marc Chantreux wrote: > > that is a point which surprise me : i understand the dash for a posix > > and lightweight attitude but why use bash as "modern shell" ? why not > > perl or zsh (which are

Re: making developer location from ldap public?

2005-08-26 Thread Javier Fernández-Sanguino Peña
On Fri, Aug 26, 2005 at 08:34:22AM +0200, Petter Reinholdtsen wrote: > [Javier Fernández-Sanguino Peña] > > Any free GIS anyone? > > Lots of Free GIS software around. Check out > http://pkg-grass.alioth.debian.org/cgi-bin/wiki.pl>. :) I was actually talking about the GIS data, not the GIS softwa

Re: making developer location from ldap public?

2005-08-26 Thread Javier Fernández-Sanguino Peña
On Fri, Aug 26, 2005 at 01:54:16AM -0500, Ron Johnson wrote: > > Pondering: Can you easily easily convert latitude/longitude into > > those "regions"? Do _you_ have a very good GIS available? You might > > be able to do it for some countries (US, probably) but not for most > > other DDs. Or have I

Re: making developer location from ldap public?

2005-08-26 Thread Javier Fernández-Sanguino Peña
On Fri, Aug 26, 2005 at 09:59:37AM +0200, Robert Lemmen wrote: > On Thu, Aug 25, 2005 at 07:42:12PM -0700, Thomas Bushnell BSG wrote: > > I don't understand why making it possible to find fellow Debian > > Developers this way should in effect make the information public. > > > > Why not simply hid

Re: Documentation of alioth?

2005-08-26 Thread Raphaël Hertzog
Le vendredi 26 août 2005 à 11:26 +0200, Florian Weimer a écrit : > * Raphaël Hertzog: > > > Le dimanche 07 août 2005 à 11:39 +0200, Florian Weimer a écrit : > >> What's the benefit of diagnosing the problem if it isn't fixed? > > > > It lets people with the required privileges fix the problem with

Re: Documentation of alioth?

2005-08-26 Thread Raphael Hertzog
Le vendredi 26 août 2005 à 12:51 +0200, Florian Weimer a écrit : > * Bastian Blank: > > > On Fri, Aug 26, 2005 at 12:23:14PM +0200, Raphaël Hertzog wrote: > >> Maybe a brief status of the "hardware donations" people would be nice ? > > > > IBM loaned 2 OpenPower machines for Debian but noone wants

Re: making developer location from ldap public?

2005-08-26 Thread W. Borgert
Quoting Javier Fern�ndez-Sanguino Pe�a <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > presents themselves and suggest meeting for a beer. They don't walk to > your house, knock on your door and say "Hi! I just got your coordinates > from db.debian.org, wanna meet and keysign?". And I wouldn't want that. I do not underst

[EMAIL PROTECTED]: Debian/Ubuntu keyring maintainer issues]

2005-08-26 Thread Marco Nenciarini
- Forwarded message from Jason Harris <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> - From: Jason Harris <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Marco Nenciarini <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, sks-devel@nongnu.org Cc: Jason Harris <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Debian/Ubuntu keyring maintainer issues (was: Re: [Sks-devel] Sks and mailsync)

Re: Documentation of alioth?

2005-08-26 Thread Bastian Blank
On Fri, Aug 26, 2005 at 12:51:41PM +0200, Florian Weimer wrote: > Some developers have a few EUR on their bank accounts and could buy > hardware for the project, too. We speak about server hardware. > But I fail to see how more machines make system administration easier. > I'd expect that additio

Re: making developer location from ldap public?

2005-08-26 Thread Ron Johnson
On Fri, 2005-08-26 at 13:50 +0200, Javier Fernández-Sanguino Peña wrote: > On Fri, Aug 26, 2005 at 01:54:16AM -0500, Ron Johnson wrote: [snip] > the paragraph above. And when I'm talking about GIS data I'm not refering to > the information in db.debian.org on developers, I'm talking about a GIS > d

Bug#325164: ITP: docbook-css -- Cascading Stylesheet for DocBook/XML

2005-08-26 Thread W. Borgert
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: "W. Borgert" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Package name: docbook-css Version : 0.4 Upstream Author : David Holroyd URL : http://www.badgers-in-foil.co.uk/projects/docbook-css/ License : "free to use/modify/distribute, no warranty" Desc

Bug#325173: ITP: queuegraph -- a RRDtool frontend for Postfix queue-statistics

2005-08-26 Thread Conall O'Brien
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: "Conall O'Brien" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> * Package name: queuegraph Version : x.y.z Upstream Author : Ralf Hildebrandt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> * URL : http://www.stahl.bau.tu-bs.de/~hildeb/postfix/queuegraph/ * License : GPL Des

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2005-08-26 Thread Frederik Minnaert
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Re: Documentation of alioth?

2005-08-26 Thread Matt Taggart
=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Rapha=EBl?= Hertzog writes... > I know Wichert is a bit disappointed because despite all the > money/sponsors we have, we're waiting for more than a year for a new > machine. The main problems appears to be DSA who must give an approval > that they're willing to admin the machine b

Re: vancouver revisited

2005-08-26 Thread Adam Heath
On Tue, 23 Aug 2005, Riku Voipio wrote: > Hi Joey, > > Your response was very much what I needed to hear. I'll have to retract > most of my worries. > > On Mon, Aug 22, 2005 at 07:20:07PM -0400, Joey Hess wrote: > > - A personal interest shared by me, tbm, and taggart is to get Debian > >work

Re: Re: Debian shared libs use far more memory than required

2005-08-26 Thread Stephane Chauveau
Thiemo Seufer wrote: The whole thing sounds like the result of hiding _GLOBAL_OFFSET_TABLE_ and _PROCEDURE_LINKAGE_TABLE_ in newer binutils. I assume that you mean that the problem the problem is solved by using the latest binutils (and not that it was introduceed by them). Is there an ea

Re: Debian shared libs use far more memory than required

2005-08-26 Thread Kurt Roeckx
On Fri, Aug 26, 2005 at 10:25:15AM +0200, Thiemo Seufer wrote: > > I checked the content of the .data section in libgtk and the > > unexpected data appears to be composed of all exported > > symbols aligned to a multiple of 16. Obviously a symbol > > table of some kind. > > The whole thing sound

Re: Debian shared libs use far more memory than required

2005-08-26 Thread Thiemo Seufer
Stephane Chauveau wrote: > Thiemo Seufer wrote: > > > >The whole thing sounds like the result of hiding _GLOBAL_OFFSET_TABLE_ > >and _PROCEDURE_LINKAGE_TABLE_ in newer binutils. > > > > I assume that you mean that the problem the problem is solved by using > the latest binutils (and not that it w

Re: better init.d/* : who carres ?

2005-08-26 Thread Adrian von Bidder
On Wednesday 24 August 2005 17.15, Miquel van Smoorenburg wrote: > Make sure you use only POSIX features when doing this. I think > "grep -o" is a GNU extension, FreeBSD doesn't have it for example. Doesn't the 'only POSIX' apply to the shell code only? At least, shouldn't it be judged on a per-

Re: vancouver revisited

2005-08-26 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
Joey Hess <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Riku Voipio wrote: >> I've tired using Debian on nfsroot/nbd on a Linksys wap54g. Unfortunatly >> I ran out of ram often, and swapping over nfs patches have disappeared >> into the time, while swapping over NBD gained some serious lockups.. >> An usb-slot

Bug#325202: ITP: libsql-abstract-limit-perl -- portable LIMIT emulation

2005-08-26 Thread Krzysztof Krzyzaniak (eloy)
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: "Krzysztof Krzyzaniak (eloy)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> * Package name: libsql-abstract-limit-perl Version : 0.033 Upstream Author : David Baird, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> * URL : http://search.cpan.org/~davebaird/SQL-Abstract-Limit-0.1/ * L

Re: Help in gcc-4.0.x transition issue

2005-08-26 Thread Martin v. Löwis
Andreas Tille wrote: > /home/tillea/debian-maintain/packages/arb/arb-0.0.20050506/INCLUDE/awt_canvas.hxx:67: > error: 'AWT_canvas' has not been declared > make[2]: *** [AW_preset.o] Error 1 > make[2]: *** Waiting for unfinished jobs > > > I guess it is a really small problem for people with C

Re: Dogme05: Team Maintenance

2005-08-26 Thread Raphael Hertzog
Florian, Le vendredi 26 août 2005 à 11:20 +0200, Florian Weimer a écrit : > Please keep in mind that responsible maintainers do not depend on > unmaintained services such as alioth.debian.org. YOU MUST STOP YOUR ANTI-ALIOTH CAMPAIGN ! As an alioth admin, I feel attacked each time I read one of y

Re: making developer location from ldap public?

2005-08-26 Thread Jesus Climent
On Thu, Aug 25, 2005 at 07:40:23PM -0700, Thomas Bushnell BSG wrote: > > I suppose this is what I mean by "we are talking about Debian > Developers". We're not keeping personal information on customers, or > people with a peripheral relationship; these are *members* of the > organization. It is

Re: making developer location from ldap public?

2005-08-26 Thread Antti-Juhani Kaijanaho
Jesus Climent wrote: > At least in Spain and Finland, publishing such information without the consent > of the person would be against the law. True. In fact, our db.d.o database would, as it currently stands, be illegal in Finland, if it were located in Finland. (It'd be fairly easy to fix, act

Re: removing /etc/hotplug.d/ support

2005-08-26 Thread Steve Langasek
On Thu, Aug 25, 2005 at 02:31:14PM +0200, Marco d'Itri wrote: > On Aug 25, Thiemo Seufer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > All those popular mips WLAN devices use still 2.4 kernels, some people > > started to port some of them to 2.6, but the main hindrance are binary > > only (and thus 2.4 only) dri

Re: Dogme05: Team Maintenance

2005-08-26 Thread Christian Perrier
Quoting Florian Weimer ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): > Please keep in mind that responsible maintainers do not depend on > unmaintained services such as alioth.debian.org. If you must use it, > make sure that you make periodic copies of archives stored on costa. Well, I'm afraid that I'm not a responsib