On Thu, Jul 14, 2005 at 12:08:00PM +0200, Francesco P. Lovergine wrote:
> On Thu, Jul 14, 2005 at 10:17:24AM +0200, Benjamin Mesing wrote:
> > my congratulation to the team too. However I was not as fortunate as the
> > Sean.
> >
>
> Me too, at least on this machine I had to explicitly install
>
Junichi Uekawa <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > 2. The information of -dev packages depending on other -dev packages
> > > cannot be automatically determined currently;
> > > it should be possible to obtain a minimal list by analyzing the
> > > NEEDED field of the objdump output.
> >
> > Errr, -
Title: Al Sayer Group
On Fri, Jul 15, 2005 at 08:21:36PM +0200, Klaus Ethgen wrote:
> Well, dosn't work either. It was just a idea that all the packages don't
> get deinstalled and maybe can be used. Also pdl which is needed for
> gimp-perl has wrong dependencies.
I've already uploaded a fixed pdl package, but it didn'
[Bartosz Fenski]
> That's example:
> http://lists.debian.org/debian-mentors/2005/07/msg00254.html
Wow, that's a disturbing thread!
So, some people honestly don't see a problem with someone taking sole
responsibility for a package with no ability to hack on its source? At
the very least I'd expe
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Hello,
> > You claim that if someone spends just as much time translating Debian as
> > someone else does on packaging software, the first one shouldn't become a
> > DD and the second one does? I disagree firmly.
>
> Packaging is the essential work and everyone involved into Debian must
> be able
I have a (probably very stupid) question:
On Sat, Jul 16, 2005 at 03:09:18AM -0700, Steve Langasek wrote:
> If one of your packages needs to be transitioned, DO NOT upload it before
> the C++ libraries it depends on have successfully made the transition.
Is there an easy way to find out which of
This one time, at band camp, Ralf Treinen said:
> I have a (probably very stupid) question:
>
> On Sat, Jul 16, 2005 at 03:09:18AM -0700, Steve Langasek wrote:
>
> > If one of your packages needs to be transitioned, DO NOT upload it before
> > the C++ libraries it depends on have successfully mad
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What kind of discussion is this? We can't effort more bureaucrazy (typo
intended) in the project. Let the people doing the work do the work
instead of first measuring their ability. If you are not able to
maintain a package basically you wont. Or you wont for long as somebody
will take over.
Hi *,
During one of the talks of Debconf (I think it was about shared library
packaging) there was a complaint that tracking upstreams SONAME changes
means that your library package will end up in NEW each time it really
changed.
I'd like to suggest fixing the scripts to only flag packages as n
On Jul 16, 2005 at 14:27, Stephen Gran praised the llamas by saying:
> This one time, at band camp, Ralf Treinen said:
> > I have a (probably very stupid) question:
> >
> > On Sat, Jul 16, 2005 at 03:09:18AM -0700, Steve Langasek wrote:
> >
> > > If one of your packages needs to be transitioned,
Goswin von Brederlow wrote:
> yes
>
> welcome to the c++ abi transition
>
>
Maybe this has been suggested before, but...
Probably more C++ abi changes will follow. To support a
smooth migration I would like to suggest to create empty
packages describing the C++ abis.
A package maintainer could
On 16.07.05, David Pashley wrote:
> On Jul 16, 2005 at 14:27, Stephen Gran praised the llamas by saying:
> > libgmp3, only Recommend: libstdc++ as it is a c library with c++ bindings
> Shouldn't the C++ bindings be split out and depend on libgmp3 and
> libstdc++?
This has been done in course of th
On 10352 March 1977, Torsten Landschoff wrote:
> During one of the talks of Debconf (I think it was about shared library
> packaging) there was a complaint that tracking upstreams SONAME changes
> means that your library package will end up in NEW each time it really
> changed.
And? Hows that ba
On Sat, Jul 02, 2005 at 03:24:18PM +0100, Roger Leigh wrote:
> gimp-print (renamed to gutenprint) is near its 5.0 release. I've
> uploaded a prerelease to experimental, which is also available here:
Hi Roger,
I need to rebuild cinepaint 0.19.1-1 due to the CXX transition currently
in progress, b
Harald Dunkel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Goswin von Brederlow wrote:
>> yes
>>
>> welcome to the c++ abi transition
>>
>>
> Maybe this has been suggested before, but...
>
> Probably more C++ abi changes will follow. To support a
> smooth migration I would like to suggest to create empty
> pa
On Sat, Jul 16, 2005 at 05:22:04PM +0200, Joerg Jaspert wrote:
> And? Hows that bad?
It means that volunteers have to spend time on this. In any case. And
maintainer has to wait etc.
I wonder why we don't automate more stuff in Debian. After all we have
all the abilities to do it.
> > I'd lik
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On 7/16/05, Steve Langasek <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> As a result of some questions on IRC and some ill-timed uploads that I've
> seen, I think it would be a good idea to highlight a couple of important
> points from Matthias's transition plan for the benefit of library
> maintainers and would-be
On Sat, Jul 16, 2005 at 05:46:51PM +0200, Torsten Landschoff wrote:
> Great. I am not trying to prove that this is better in all cases. We are
> talking about the overall case. With your argument everything should go
> into new and be checked by ftp admins. After all I could break the new
> package
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Goswin von Brederlow wrote:
>
> A single C++-ABI package would just mean that all c++ packages are
> kept back (or removed) from the very start of the c++ transition up to
> the very end. There will be a lot of packages at the end of the
> dependency chains that you don't have installed and that w
On Sat, Jul 16, 2005 at 03:09:18AM -0700, Steve Langasek wrote:
> Also, for those who aren't aware, the new xorg packages now in
> unstable are also implicated in the C++ transition, because libGLU is
> implemented in C++.
Keyword: implemented.
All of GLU's interfaces are C, not C++, so "tr
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Andrew Lau <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> On Sat, Jul 02, 2005 at 03:24:18PM +0100, Roger Leigh wrote:
>> gimp-print (renamed to gutenprint) is near its 5.0 release. I've
>> uploaded a prerelease to experimental, which is also available here:
>
> Hi R
On Sat, Jul 16, 2005 at 12:00:12PM -0600, Marcelo E. Magallon wrote:
> On Sat, Jul 16, 2005 at 03:09:18AM -0700, Steve Langasek wrote:
> > Also, for those who aren't aware, the new xorg packages now in
> > unstable are also implicated in the C++ transition, because libGLU is
> > implemented in
On Sat, Jul 16, 2005 at 02:44:03PM +0200, Ralf Treinen wrote:
> I have a (probably very stupid) question:
> On Sat, Jul 16, 2005 at 03:09:18AM -0700, Steve Langasek wrote:
> > If one of your packages needs to be transitioned, DO NOT upload it before
> > the C++ libraries it depends on have succes
On Sat, Jul 16, 2005 at 03:24:50PM -0700, Steve Langasek wrote:
> Oh, ugh. I think the XSF was essentially following Ubuntu's lead
> here; no one realized, or thought to check, that the C++ bits weren't
> exported as part of the ABI.
Ah... that was my guess...
> David, do you want me to pu
On Fri, Jul 15, 2005 at 05:01:03PM +0900, Junichi Uekawa wrote:
> > The aspell dictionary packages build-depend on aspell-bin (>> 0.60).
> > aspell-bin is now a virtual package provided by aspell, but virtual
> > packages cannot be versioned, so these build-dependency cannot be
> > satisfied.
> >
On Sat, Jul 16, 2005 at 05:09:28PM -0600, Marcelo E. Magallon wrote:
> On Sat, Jul 16, 2005 at 03:24:50PM -0700, Steve Langasek wrote:
>
> > Oh, ugh. I think the XSF was essentially following Ubuntu's lead
> > here; no one realized, or thought to check, that the C++ bits weren't
> > exported a
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> would stilt their creativity, hinder th
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Steve Langasek <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> On Sat, Jul 16, 2005 at 02:44:03PM +0200, Ralf Treinen wrote:
>> I have a (probably very stupid) question:
>
>> On Sat, Jul 16, 2005 at 03:09:18AM -0700, Steve Langasek wrote:
>
>> > If one of your packages needs to be transitioned, DO NOT upload it bef
On Sun, Jul 17, 2005 at 06:22:21AM +0200, Goswin von Brederlow wrote:
> Steve Langasek <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> > On Sat, Jul 16, 2005 at 02:44:03PM +0200, Ralf Treinen wrote:
> >> I have a (probably very stupid) question:
> >> On Sat, Jul 16, 2005 at 03:09:18AM -0700, Steve Langasek wrote:
Matt Kraai <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> On Fri, Jul 15, 2005 at 05:01:03PM +0900, Junichi Uekawa wrote:
>> > The aspell dictionary packages build-depend on aspell-bin (>> 0.60).
>> > aspell-bin is now a virtual package provided by aspell, but virtual
>> > packages cannot be versioned, so these bu
Harald Dunkel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Goswin von Brederlow wrote:
>>
>> A single C++-ABI package would just mean that all c++ packages are
>> kept back (or removed) from the very start of the c++ transition up to
>> the very end. There will be a lot of packages at the end of the
>> dependen
Steve Langasek <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> On Sun, Jul 17, 2005 at 06:22:21AM +0200, Goswin von Brederlow wrote:
>> Steve Langasek <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
>> > On Sat, Jul 16, 2005 at 02:44:03PM +0200, Ralf Treinen wrote:
>> >> I have a (probably very stupid) question:
>
>> >> On Sat, Jul
Ralf Treinen writes:
> I have a (probably very stupid) question:
>
> On Sat, Jul 16, 2005 at 03:09:18AM -0700, Steve Langasek wrote:
>
> > If one of your packages needs to be transitioned, DO NOT upload it before
> > the C++ libraries it depends on have successfully made the transition.
>
> Is t
David Pashley writes:
> On Jul 16, 2005 at 14:27, Stephen Gran praised the llamas by saying:
> > This one time, at band camp, Ralf Treinen said:
> > > I have a (probably very stupid) question:
> > >
> > > On Sat, Jul 16, 2005 at 03:09:18AM -0700, Steve Langasek wrote:
> > >
> > > > If one of your
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