Re: RFS: libssh - SSH and SCP library

2005-07-12 Thread Josselin Mouette
Le dimanche 10 juillet 2005 à 14:01 +0900, Junichi Uekawa a écrit : > > The point of the LGPL is to avoid such incompatibilities. If you can > > link it with proprietary code, you can also link it to code under the > > OpenSSL license. > > Hmm... you can use a LGPL library, but a LGPL library cann

Re: Updating dpkg-cross: file moving question

2005-07-12 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
"Nikita V. Youshchenko" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >> > Dpkg-cross is a tool to create cross-compile environment, useful to >> > cross-compile debian packages and other software. >> > One of dpkg-cross's functions is to process a native library or libdev >> > package for some arch, and turn it in

Re: Updating dpkg-cross: file moving question

2005-07-12 Thread Miles Bader
Goswin von Brederlow <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > The multiarch and FHS proposals say that ${prefix}/${target}/* would > pollute the / and /usr directories while the lib and include subdirs > already have tons of files/dirs and the extra dirs won't matter. > > Matter of opinion probably. Of cours

Re: GCC 4.0 as the default GCC / C++ ABI change

2005-07-12 Thread Florian Weimer
* Matthias Klose: > With today's dinstall run, new gcc/g++ packages are entering the > archives and GCC 4.0 is the default gcc/g++. Starting from now, please > DON'T upload any C++ code, which build-depends on a library written in > C++ that is not yet converted to the new C++ ABI. Details for th

Re: GCC 4.0 as the default GCC / C++ ABI change

2005-07-12 Thread Olaf van der Spek
On 7/12/05, Florian Weimer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > * Matthias Klose: > > > With today's dinstall run, new gcc/g++ packages are entering the > > archives and GCC 4.0 is the default gcc/g++. Starting from now, please > > DON'T upload any C++ code, which build-depends on a library written in > >

Re: Documentation of alioth?

2005-07-12 Thread Raphael Hertzog
Le lundi 11 juillet 2005 à 17:57 +0200, Eduard Bloch a écrit : > > Did you try to check where the problem is ? Did you try to prepare a > > patch for us to apply ? > > It's not my beer, but... did you ask for one? Did you ask for help at > all (since there seem to be real problems, my last request

Bug#317892: ITP: bum -- tool to manage boot scripts

2005-07-12 Thread Federico Di Gregorio
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Federico Di Gregorio <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> * Package name: bum Version : 1.3.0 Upstream Author : Fabio Marzocca <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> * URL : http://www.marzocca.net/linux/bum.html * License : GPL Description : tool to m

Re: Updating dpkg-cross: file moving question

2005-07-12 Thread Nikita V. Youshchenko
> "Nikita V. Youshchenko" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > >> > Dpkg-cross is a tool to create cross-compile environment, useful to > >> > cross-compile debian packages and other software. > >> > One of dpkg-cross's functions is to process a native library or > >> > libdev package for some arch, and

Re: Free Beer: Need packaging assistance...

2005-07-12 Thread Mikael Olenfalk
it was not my intention to state that Debian is about free beer, just that I would need some guidance and I am willing to pay if there is a DD in stockholm who is interested in giving assistance. I'd prefer a face-2-face "lesson" that's why I offer money/beer in the first place. (but also because I

Re: GCC 4.0 as the default GCC / C++ ABI change

2005-07-12 Thread Florian Weimer
* Olaf van der Spek: >> I don't know if it's related, but roughly since the GCC 4.0 upload, I >> get strange assembler warnings for perfectly valid C++ programs: > > I got them too but it seems they're now 'fixed' in unstable. Seems to be the case, thanks. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PR

Re: Updating dpkg-cross: file moving question

2005-07-12 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
"Nikita V. Youshchenko" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >> The multiarch and FHS proposals say that ${prefix}/${target}/* would >> pollute the / and /usr directories while the lib and include subdirs >> already have tons of files/dirs and the extra dirs won't matter. > > I think that following years-o

Re: Free Beer: Need packaging assistance...

2005-07-12 Thread Adrian von Bidder
On Tuesday 12 July 2005 11.51, Mikael Olenfalk wrote: > it was not my intention to state that Debian is about free beer Sorry - you misunderstood me. I tried to make a (bad) joke, nothing more. greetings -- vbi -- featured link: http://fortytwo.ch/smtp pgpXlfH0UtbyY.pgp Description: PGP sign

Re: Free Beer: Need packaging assistance...

2005-07-12 Thread sean finney
On Tue, Jul 12, 2005 at 11:51:27AM +0200, Mikael Olenfalk wrote: > it was not my intention to state that Debian is about free beer, just > that I would need > some guidance and I am willing to pay if there is a DD in stockholm > who is interested > in giving assistance. I'd prefer a face-2-face "le

Re: Bug#317892: ITP: bum -- tool to manage boot scripts

2005-07-12 Thread Thomas Hood
On Tue, 12 Jul 2005 11:15:42 +0200, Federico Di Gregorio wrote: > Boot-Up Manager is a graphical tool to allow easy configuration > of init services in user and system runlevels, as far as changing > Start/Stop services priority. Consulting the documentation... > 1. Activate a de-activated script

depending on itself -- bug?

2005-07-12 Thread Joerg Sommer
Hi, I found three packages in my system they name itself in the Depends field: libbonoboui2-0, libgail-common and libtextwrap1 What's the reason for a package to depend on itself? This makes it hard for deborphan to detect them as orphaned. Should check lintian on this? Have a nice day, Jörg. --

Re: Documentation of alioth?

2005-07-12 Thread Marc Haber
On Mon, 11 Jul 2005 14:13:17 +0200, Raphael Hertzog <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >Le lundi 11 juillet 2005 à 09:17 +0200, Marc Haber a écrit : >> Same goes for tracker ticket #301374 - open since three months, not a >> bit of reply. > >I never said we were perfect. But alioth is not "unmaintained".

Re: Updating dpkg-cross: file moving question

2005-07-12 Thread Nikita V. Youshchenko
> >> The multiarch and FHS proposals say that ${prefix}/${target}/* would > >> pollute the / and /usr directories while the lib and include subdirs > >> already have tons of files/dirs and the extra dirs won't matter. > > > > I think that following years-old de-facto standard of > > cross-compilati

Re: Old bugs list not being updated?

2005-07-12 Thread Colin Watson
On Mon, Jul 11, 2005 at 04:04:10PM -0400, Elizabeth Cherry wrote: > http://master.debian.org/~ajt/oldbugs.html is linked to from the > Developer's Corner on the web page, and I like to look at it when > looking for bugs to poke at. But it hasn't been updated since > September 2004. It's been he

Re: depending on itself -- bug?

2005-07-12 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
Joerg Sommer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Hi, > > I found three packages in my system they name itself in the Depends > field: libbonoboui2-0, libgail-common and libtextwrap1 > > What's the reason for a package to depend on itself? This makes it hard > for deborphan to detect them as orphaned. Sh

Re: Updating dpkg-cross: file moving question

2005-07-12 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
"Nikita V. Youshchenko" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >> >> The multiarch and FHS proposals say that ${prefix}/${target}/* would >> >> pollute the / and /usr directories while the lib and include subdirs >> >> already have tons of files/dirs and the extra dirs won't matter. >> > >> > I think that fo

Re: depending on itself -- bug?

2005-07-12 Thread Santiago Vila
On Tue, 12 Jul 2005, Goswin von Brederlow wrote: > Joerg Sommer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > Hi, > > > > I found three packages in my system they name itself in the Depends > > field: libbonoboui2-0, libgail-common and libtextwrap1 > > > > What's the reason for a package to depend on itself?

Re: depending on itself -- bug?

2005-07-12 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
Santiago Vila <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On Tue, 12 Jul 2005, Goswin von Brederlow wrote: > >> Joerg Sommer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >> >> > Hi, >> > >> > I found three packages in my system they name itself in the Depends >> > field: libbonoboui2-0, libgail-common and libtextwrap1 >> > >>

Re: "How to recognise different ETCH wishlists from quite a long way away" (revised)

2005-07-12 Thread Max Vozeler
On Mon, Jul 11, 2005 at 08:06:29PM +0200, Frank Lichtenheld wrote: > Nevertheless, we're indeed currently working on such a framework as > you mention. On our list of tests to run are currently install tests > (with liw's piuparts), rebuild tests (with pbuilder I think) and > lintian (perhaps linda

Re: should etch be Debian 4.0 ?

2005-07-12 Thread Andrea Mennucc
I approve Drew Parsons wrote: > I remember some of us belatedly suggested sarge should be Debian 4.0, > though it was too late (May?) to accept that. (it was me) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: should etch be Debian 4.0 ?

2005-07-12 Thread Andrea Mennucc
Antti-Juhani Kaijanaho wrote: > On 20050708T181259-0400, Johan Kullstam wrote: >>What signal is meant by 3.1 versus 4.0? Does your intended audience >>have any concept of the distinction? > > The usual distinction, when it is made, is that bumping the major number > indicates a disruptive upgrade

Re: should etch be Debian 4.0 ?

2005-07-12 Thread Olaf van der Spek
On 7/12/05, Andrea Mennucc <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Antti-Juhani Kaijanaho wrote: > > On 20050708T181259-0400, Johan Kullstam wrote: > >>What signal is meant by 3.1 versus 4.0? Does your intended audience > >>have any concept of the distinction? > > > > The usual distinction, when it is made,

Re: "How to recognise different ETCH wishlists from quite a long way away" (revised)

2005-07-12 Thread Max Vozeler
On Mon, Jul 11, 2005 at 09:44:07PM +0200, Jonas Meurer wrote: > On 11/07/2005 Max Vozeler wrote: > > On Fri, Jul 08, 2005 at 02:33:12PM +0200, Javier wrote: > > > - Encrypted root/swap on the d-i installation. > > > > I'm planning to work on this- probably during the next few weeks. I hope > > to

RE: Bug#317892: ITP: bum -- tool to manage boot scripts

2005-07-12 Thread Humberto Massa Guimarães
> On Tue, 12 Jul 2005 11:15:42 +0200, Federico Di Gregorio wrote: > > Boot-Up Manager is a graphical tool to allow easy configuration > > of init services in user and system runlevels, as far as changing > > Start/Stop services priority. > > Consulting the documentation... > > 1. Activate a de-ac

Re: depending on itself -- bug?

2005-07-12 Thread Santiago Vila
On Tue, 12 Jul 2005, Goswin von Brederlow wrote: > Santiago Vila <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > On Tue, 12 Jul 2005, Goswin von Brederlow wrote: > >> Missing shlibs.local file and binaries in the lib package? > > > > That would be only a "reason" for a build-depends on itself, but not for > >

Re: depending on itself -- bug?

2005-07-12 Thread Frank Lichtenheld
On Tue, Jul 12, 2005 at 10:22:30AM +, Joerg Sommer wrote: > Hi, > > I found three packages in my system they name itself in the Depends > field: libbonoboui2-0, libgail-common and libtextwrap1 > > What's the reason for a package to depend on itself? This makes it hard > for deborphan to detec

Re: Documentation of alioth?

2005-07-12 Thread Florian Weimer
* Marc Haber: >>I never said we were perfect. But alioth is not "unmaintained". > > A project which leaves bug reports completely uncommented (and > unfixed) for three months is unmaintained. Not necessarily. It's very poor communication, and a huge problem. But without inside knowledge, you can

Bug#317958: ITP: python-constraint -- solver for constraint satisfaction problems

2005-07-12 Thread Alexandre Fayolle
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Alexandre Fayolle <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> * Package name: python-constraint Version : 0.3.0 Upstream Author : Alexandre Fayolle <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> * URL : http://www.logilab.org/projects/constraint * License : GPL Descripti

Re: RFS: libssh - SSH and SCP library

2005-07-12 Thread Junichi Uekawa
Hi, > > > The point of the LGPL is to avoid such incompatibilities. If you can > > > link it with proprietary code, you can also link it to code under the > > > OpenSSL license. > > > > Hmm... you can use a LGPL library, but a LGPL library cannot use > > a non-compliant library. That's how LGPL

Re: "How to recognise different ETCH wishlists from quite a long way away" (revised)

2005-07-12 Thread Jonas Meurer
On 12/07/2005 Max Vozeler wrote: > On Mon, Jul 11, 2005 at 09:44:07PM +0200, Jonas Meurer wrote: > > please consider to support luks too. the current cryptsetup package > > supports only dm-crypt from christophe saout. luks from clemens > > fruhwirth has many advantages over plain dm-crypt, and i g

Bug#317973: ITP: alps-full1 -- Algorithms and Libraries for Physics Simulations

2005-07-12 Thread Robert Jordens
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Robert Jordens <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> * Package name: alps-full1 Version : 1.2.2 Upstream Author : Matthias Troyer et al. * URL : http://alps.comp-phys.org/ * License : custom non-free (see below) Description : Algorith

Re: RFS: libssh - SSH and SCP library

2005-07-12 Thread Peter Makholm
Junichi Uekawa <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >> Quite untrue. The LGPL doesn't make any difference between those two >> cases. >> > > But that will disallow one option that should be granted through > the use of LGPL: the option to use GPL. Not really. You can still take libssh and mak a derived w

Re: GCC version change / C++ ABI change

2005-07-12 Thread Adrian von Bidder
On Monday 11 July 2005 22.18, Roger Leigh wrote: > Adrian von Bidder <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > On Monday 04 July 2005 11.51, Horms wrote: > >> I am not sure about 3.4's ability to compile 2.4.27, but > >> it seems unlikely to me that all of the gcc versions you mention above > >> will be omit

Bug#317980: ITP: alps-applications1 -- Algorithms and Libraries for Physics Simulations

2005-07-12 Thread Robert Jordens
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Robert Jordens <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> * Package name: alps-applications1 Version : 1.2.2 Upstream Author : Matthias Troyer et al. * URL : http://alps.comp-phys.org/ * License : custom non-free cite-me/non-commercial (see belo

Re: GCC 4.0 as the default GCC / C++ ABI change

2005-07-12 Thread Matthias Klose
NMU's for all C++ libraries, not depending on any other C++ library are now allowed. Matthias Matthias Klose writes: > For the time until all C++ libraries are converted, we use the > following NMU policy for uploads related to the C++ ABI change: > > - - 0-day NMU's allowed for all C++ libra

Re: GCC version change / C++ ABI change

2005-07-12 Thread Nikita V. Youshchenko
> -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > Adrian von Bidder <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > >> On Monday 04 July 2005 11.51, Horms wrote: >>> I am not sure about 3.4's ability to compile 2.4.27, but >>> it seems unlikely to me that all of the gcc versions you mention above >>> will be

G++ transition page revived

2005-07-12 Thread Frank Lichtenheld
Hi. As many of you might remember, back in 2003 Matthew Wilcox created an overview page for the last g++ transition from 2.95 to 3.2/3.3. You can still find it at http://people.debian.org/~willy/gcc-transition/ (but the log file seems to have suffered during the harddrive failure of gluck) I thin

Re: G++ transition page revived

2005-07-12 Thread deb-lists-z
On Tue, Jul 12, 2005 at 10:27:34PM +0200, Frank Lichtenheld wrote: > I think this has proven very helpful so I set up a only slightly > modified version for the current transition from 3.3 to 4.0. > You can find it at http://people.debian.org/~djpig/gcc-transition/ I think the addition of 4.0 numb

Re: G++ transition page revived

2005-07-12 Thread Will Newton
On Tuesday 12 July 2005 21:27, Frank Lichtenheld wrote: > Hi. > > As many of you might remember, back in 2003 Matthew Wilcox created > an overview page for the last g++ transition from 2.95 to 3.2/3.3. > You can still find it at > http://people.debian.org/~willy/gcc-transition/ (but the log file >

Re: G++ transition page revived

2005-07-12 Thread Frank Lichtenheld
On Tue, Jul 12, 2005 at 09:50:38PM +0100, Will Newton wrote: > On Tuesday 12 July 2005 21:27, Frank Lichtenheld wrote: > > As many of you might remember, back in 2003 Matthew Wilcox created > > an overview page for the last g++ transition from 2.95 to 3.2/3.3. > > You can still find it at > > http:

Re: G++ transition page revived

2005-07-12 Thread Frank Lichtenheld
On Tue, Jul 12, 2005 at 02:43:36PM -0600, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > On Tue, Jul 12, 2005 at 10:27:34PM +0200, Frank Lichtenheld wrote: > > I think this has proven very helpful so I set up a only slightly > > modified version for the current transition from 3.3 to 4.0. > > You can find it at http:/

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interacting with the press

2005-07-12 Thread Anand Kumria
Hi Martin, I just read this article[1] in the SMH. I think there are a few points that you should keep when talking to the press in future: - don't "slag" them off / don't complain aobut the press - Just talk about Debian, unless explicitly asked for comments on other t

Re: interacting with the press

2005-07-12 Thread Steve Greenland
On 12-Jul-05, 17:40 (CDT), Anand Kumria <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi Martin, >[deleted] Hi Anand, I just read your post to debian-devel, and here is something that you should keep in mind when criticizing volunteers who spend a lot of their personal time doing a thankless job: - Don't sla

Re: interacting with the press

2005-07-12 Thread Thomas Bushnell BSG
Anand Kumria <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > I just read this article[1] in the SMH. I think there are a few points that > you should keep when talking to the press in future: > > - don't "slag" them off / don't complain aobut the press > > - Just talk about Debian, unless explicitly a

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Re: interacting with the press

2005-07-12 Thread Nigel Jones
On 13/07/05, Anand Kumria <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi Martin, > > I just read this article[1] in the SMH. I think there are a few points that > you should keep when talking to the press in future: > > - don't "slag" them off / don't complain aobut the press I don't see how his commen

Working on updated GGI packages

2005-07-12 Thread Neil Pilgrim
Hi all, Having managed to confirm on irc that the maintainer for GGI (libggi/libgii) is sufficiently MIA, I'm now trying to work my way towards understanding the old packaging and then updating the packages to the newer upstream release(s). Being new to packaging, I intend to to join the deb

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Re: G++ transition page revived

2005-07-12 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
Frank Lichtenheld <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > I think this has proven very helpful so I set up a only slightly > modified version for the current transition from 3.3 to 4.0. > You can find it at http://people.debian.org/~djpig/gcc-transition/ Does anyone have a script to sort the list by Depend