dependency on base package adduser ?

2005-05-10 Thread Matthijs Mohlmann
Hi, We got a bug on pdns-server #308409. In the preinst we do an adduser to let pdns run with another user then root. The bug submitter says that we need an dependency on adduser. But i'm not really sure about it because adduser is a base package. And i thought you don't have to depend on a base

Re: dependency on base package adduser ?

2005-05-10 Thread Petter Reinholdtsen
[Matthijs Mohlmann] > But i'm not really sure about it because adduser is a base > package. And i thought you don't have to depend on a base package. Where did you get that idea? Any references to documentation stating this? I suspect you confuse this with build-dependencies, where you can drop

Bug#308433: ITP: helpdeco -- decompile Microsoft WinHelp files

2005-05-10 Thread Paul Wise
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Paul Wise <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> * Package name: helpdeco Version : 2.1.1 Upstream Author : Manfred Winterhoff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> * URL : http://sf.net/projects/helpdeco/ * License : GPL Description : decompile Microso

Re: packages missing from sarge

2005-05-10 Thread Rene Mayrhofer
Am Dienstag, 10. Mai 2005 02:40 schrieb Anthony DeRobertis: > Seconded! The only RC-bug in openswan is for a newer version of the > kernel which will not ship with Sarge. Yes, that's true. I have to admit that I messed up in not marking this bug sid. My current best solution would be to put 2.2.0-

Re: dependency on base package adduser ?

2005-05-10 Thread Eduard Bloch
#include * Matthijs Mohlmann [Tue, May 10 2005, 09:05:25AM]: > In the preinst we do an adduser to let pdns run with another user then root. > > The bug submitter says that we need an dependency on adduser. But i'm > not really sure about it because adduser is a base package. And i > thought you

Re: dependency on base package adduser ?

2005-05-10 Thread Gergely Nagy
On Tue, 2005-05-10 at 09:12 +0200, Petter Reinholdtsen wrote: > [Matthijs Mohlmann] > > But i'm not really sure about it because adduser is a base > > package. And i thought you don't have to depend on a base package. > > Where did you get that idea? Any references to documentation stating > this

Re: dependency on base package adduser ?

2005-05-10 Thread Russ Allbery
Petter Reinholdtsen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > [Matthijs Mohlmann] >> But i'm not really sure about it because adduser is a base package. And >> i thought you don't have to depend on a base package. > Where did you get that idea? Any references to documentation stating > this? > I suspect yo

Re: dependency on base package adduser ?

2005-05-10 Thread Eduard Bloch
#include * Eduard Bloch [Tue, May 10 2005, 09:20:38AM]: > "base" is not a priority level or so, it is just a term for packages > that are installed by the original installer. And nothing forbids the > local administrator to remove one of these, unless they have "required" > priority (eg. libc6) w

Re: dependency on base package adduser ?

2005-05-10 Thread Matthijs Mohlmann
Hi, I mixed up stuff. Thanks for helping out. Regards, Matthijs Mohlmann Eduard Bloch wrote: > #include > * Eduard Bloch [Tue, May 10 2005, 09:20:38AM]: > > >>"base" is not a priority level or so, it is just a term for packages >>that are installed by the original installer. And nothing forbi

Re: dependency on base package adduser ?

2005-05-10 Thread Michael Koch
On Tue, May 10, 2005 at 09:47:11AM +0200, Eduard Bloch wrote: > #include > * Eduard Bloch [Tue, May 10 2005, 09:20:38AM]: > > > "base" is not a priority level or so, it is just a term for packages > > that are installed by the original installer. And nothing forbids the > > local administrator to

Re: packages missing from sarge

2005-05-10 Thread Anthony DeRobertis
On Tue, May 10, 2005 at 09:32:49AM +0200, Rene Mayrhofer wrote: > Am Dienstag, 10. Mai 2005 02:40 schrieb Anthony DeRobertis: > > Seconded! The only RC-bug in openswan is for a newer version of the > > kernel which will not ship with Sarge. > Yes, that's true. I have to admit that I messed up in no

Re: /usr/lib vs /usr/libexec

2005-05-10 Thread GOMBAS Gabor
On Tue, May 10, 2005 at 05:42:31AM +0200, Bernd Eckenfels wrote: > > - / can't be on lvm, raid0, raid5, reiserfs, xfs without causing > > problems for /boot. > > Why is that? Missing bootloader support. > > - a larger FS has more chance of failing so you risk having a fully > > broken system mo

Re: Location of Web Application Data, Policy 11.5.3

2005-05-10 Thread Alexis Sukrieh
* Christoph Berg ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) disait : > Re: Marc Haber in <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Am I missing something or is this part of policy widely ignored? > > I had my own problems with that paragraph and would appreciate to have > it clarified. > > There's a new mailing list for webapps since la

Re: packages missing from sarge

2005-05-10 Thread Steve Langasek
On Tue, May 10, 2005 at 04:17:41AM -0400, Anthony DeRobertis wrote: > On Tue, May 10, 2005 at 09:32:49AM +0200, Rene Mayrhofer wrote: > > Am Dienstag, 10. Mai 2005 02:40 schrieb Anthony DeRobertis: > > > Seconded! The only RC-bug in openswan is for a newer version of the > > > kernel which will not

Re: /usr/lib vs /usr/libexec

2005-05-10 Thread Cameron Hutchison
Once upon a time GOMBAS Gabor said... > > $ df -h > FilesystemSize Used Avail Use% Mounted on > /dev/hda5 99M 75M 19M 80% / > [...] > > $ du -sh /etc/gconf > 26M /etc/gconf > > That's 1/3 of my root fs. It's damn too much. I discovered this a while ago and lea

Re: packages missing from sarge

2005-05-10 Thread Rene Mayrhofer
Steve Langasek schrieb: >>If that 2.3.x bug really only affects the newer (> 2.6.8) kernel, why >>not just get 2.3.x pushed into sarge? Are there any other big issues >>with it, that weren't in 2.2.x? Some people might certainly like the >>agressive mode support, or 2.3.1's NAT-T fixes. Personally,

Re: /usr/lib vs /usr/libexec

2005-05-10 Thread Bernd Eckenfels
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> you wrote: >> > - / can't be on lvm, raid0, raid5, reiserfs, xfs without causing >> > problems for /boot. >> >> Why is that? > > Missing bootloader support. the bootloader does not need to access the root filesystem. It only loads the kernel and the initrd from /bo

Re: dependency on base package adduser ?

2005-05-10 Thread Bernd Eckenfels
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> you wrote: > libc6 is not and may not be marked Essential, as the NM process taught me. > So its a bad example. Even if it is marked as essential, you have a versioned dependency, anyway. Gruss Bernd -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of

Re: /usr/lib vs /usr/libexec

2005-05-10 Thread Andrew Suffield
On Mon, May 09, 2005 at 08:38:02AM -0700, Thomas Bushnell BSG wrote: > Martin Waitz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > The BSDs use libexec but I don't really see a good reason why it exists. > > It reduces search times in libraries, which is important. We do not have that bug, so it's not import

Re: Tricky library packaging question

2005-05-10 Thread Enrico Zini
On Mon, May 09, 2005 at 08:18:37PM -0700, Steve Langasek wrote: > > I cannot think of any other options. I'm short of clues for the best > > way of doing this, and I'd be happy to give access to the svn repository > > of people who could help and work on it together. > I imagine these libraries a

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2005-05-10 Thread Dora
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Re: GPL and linking

2005-05-10 Thread Humberto Massa
Raul Miller wrote: On 5/9/05, Humberto Massa <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: You can't re-state something saying a different thing. GPL#0 says that "a work based on the Program" is "a derivative work under copyright law", and then says "that is to say, a work containing...", which is NOT a re-stateme

Re: /usr/lib vs /usr/libexec

2005-05-10 Thread Humberto Massa
Thomas Bushnell BSG wrote: Martin Dickopp <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Thomas Bushnell BSG <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: If there is a reason to separate /usr from / (which so many people think there is, though I don't understand why, since it has no semantic significance at all), why separate

Re: /usr/lib vs /usr/libexec

2005-05-10 Thread Humberto Massa
Thomas Bushnell BSG wrote: Goswin von Brederlow <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: That doesn't make sense. If you get rid of the /usr vs / distinction, then there is no "before /usr is mounted". But then you have a minimum 1-5GB /. That sucks. Why, exactly? I know people thin

Re: /usr/lib vs /usr/libexec

2005-05-10 Thread Josselin Mouette
Le mardi 10 mai 2005 à 10:21 +0200, GOMBAS Gabor a écrit : > On Tue, May 10, 2005 at 05:42:31AM +0200, Bernd Eckenfels wrote: > > > > - / can't be on lvm, raid0, raid5, reiserfs, xfs without causing > > > problems for /boot. > > > > Why is that? > > Missing bootloader support. Which bootloader

Re: /usr/lib vs /usr/libexec

2005-05-10 Thread Russell Coker
On Tuesday 10 May 2005 02:18, Goswin von Brederlow <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Russell Coker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > It seems to me that /usr/libexec is a better name for such things, and > > having the same directory names used across distributions provides real > > benefits (copying con

Re: /usr/lib vs /usr/libexec

2005-05-10 Thread Russell Coker
On Tuesday 10 May 2005 10:36, Goswin von Brederlow <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > - / can't be on lvm, raid0, raid5, reiserfs, xfs without causing > problems for /boot. I believe that there are LILO patches for /boot on LVM. There's no reason why GRUB and other boot loaders couldn't be updated in

removing packages unexpected behaviour

2005-05-10 Thread Matthijs Mohlmann
Hi, When i try to remove pdns-server while one of the backends is installed i got the following behaviour: monster:/usr/src# apt-get remove --purge pdns-server Reading Package Lists... Done Building Dependency Tree... Done The following packages will be REMOVED: pdns-backend-mysql* pdns-server*

really experimental sunbird calendar package available

2005-05-10 Thread Alexander Sack
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi, Just uploaded a sunbird package to my experimental p.d.o. archive. It is still not in a shape suitable for debian, but since upstream is quite a big step away from a releasable state too, I have no problems with releasing this snapshot today in su

Re: GPL and linking

2005-05-10 Thread Raul Miller
On 5/10/05, Humberto Massa <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Raul Miller wrote: > >That's another re-statement of what "a work based on the Program" > >means. > > > The GPL just equated the two, before the colon! It states, clearly, that > the "a work based on the program" is "a derivative work under co

Re: cogito_0.10-1 available

2005-05-10 Thread Sebastian Kuzminsky
Ben Finney <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: ] It could be better described, yes. My understanding of /usr/share as ] "architecture-independent" (and read-only, as the description ] continues) is that /usr/share/can potentially be mounted read-only ] for multiple machines of different architectures. Ok,

Re: dependency on base package adduser ?

2005-05-10 Thread John Hasler
Russ Allbery writes: > So far as I know, a base package (section base) has no particular special > meaning from a dependency perspective, although I believe that section > may be reserved for required packages (but am not sure). There are optional packages in base. -- John Hasler -- To UNSUBSC

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Re: Debian AMD64 Archive Move

2005-05-10 Thread Ed Cogburn
On Sunday 08 May 2005 9:27am, Joerg Jaspert wrote: > On 10283 March 1977, Ed Tomlinson wrote: > >> Whats going on == someone needs to check it. Thats it. > > > > That was the point made by Ed Cogburn. Its already been checked in the > > other arch! If this is not the case please explain why. Wit

Re: /usr/lib vs /usr/libexec

2005-05-10 Thread GOMBAS Gabor
On Tue, May 10, 2005 at 11:16:54AM +0200, Bernd Eckenfels wrote: > the bootloader does not need to access the root filesystem. It only loads > the kernel and the initrd from /boot. (I assume that /boot is on /. If not, the following still applies to /boot.) Well, grub _does_ access the filesyste

Re: /usr/lib vs /usr/libexec

2005-05-10 Thread Thomas Bushnell BSG
Andrew Suffield <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > We do not have that bug, so it's not important to us. Still, nobody has said. What filesystems available on Debian have a better than linear search time for open, and are they used by a default Debian install? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL P

Re: Debian AMD64 Archive Move

2005-05-10 Thread Matthew Garrett
Ed Cogburn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > NO ONE IS GOING TO CARE ABOUT OUR NON-FREE! You're entirely right. After having to read that lot, I'd be impressed if anyone cared about making sure amd64 shipped with non-free. -- Matthew Garrett | [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL

Re: /usr/lib vs /usr/libexec

2005-05-10 Thread Thomas Bushnell BSG
Humberto Massa <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > What do you think are the original reasons "/" needed to be small? I know what they are. PDP-11 boot loaders couldn't access long block addresses. This was copied into 32V on the Vax, where it entered 4BSD. Thomas -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [E

Re: /usr/lib vs /usr/libexec

2005-05-10 Thread Russell Coker
On Wednesday 11 May 2005 00:55, GOMBAS Gabor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Tue, May 10, 2005 at 11:16:54AM +0200, Bernd Eckenfels wrote: > > the bootloader does not need to access the root filesystem. It only loads > > the kernel and the initrd from /boot. > > (I assume that /boot is on /. If not

Re: /usr/lib vs /usr/libexec

2005-05-10 Thread Thomas Bushnell BSG
GOMBAS Gabor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On Tue, May 10, 2005 at 11:16:54AM +0200, Bernd Eckenfels wrote: > >> the bootloader does not need to access the root filesystem. It only loads >> the kernel and the initrd from /boot. > > (I assume that /boot is on /. If not, the following still applies

Re: Debian AMD64 Archive Move

2005-05-10 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
Ed Cogburn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On Sunday 08 May 2005 9:27am, Joerg Jaspert wrote: >> On 10283 March 1977, Ed Tomlinson wrote: >> >> Whats going on == someone needs to check it. Thats it. >> > >> > That was the point made by Ed Cogburn. Its already been checked in the >> > other arch! I

Re: /usr/lib vs /usr/libexec

2005-05-10 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
Bernd Eckenfels <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> you wrote: >> - / can't be on lvm, raid0, raid5, reiserfs, xfs without causing >> problems for /boot. > > Why is that? Lvm has its backup data in /etc by default. If you ever need it you are screwed with / on lvm. Also s

Re: /usr/lib vs /usr/libexec

2005-05-10 Thread Thomas Bushnell BSG
Goswin von Brederlow <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Lvm has its backup data in /etc by default. If you ever need it you > are screwed with / on lvm. Also snapshots and pvmove don't work > (deadlock). > > raid0/5 don't have support in the bootloaders. > > reiserfs/xfs miss support in bootloaders or

Re: /usr/lib vs /usr/libexec

2005-05-10 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
Josselin Mouette <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Le mardi 10 mai 2005 à 10:21 +0200, GOMBAS Gabor a écrit : >> On Tue, May 10, 2005 at 05:42:31AM +0200, Bernd Eckenfels wrote: >> >> > > - / can't be on lvm, raid0, raid5, reiserfs, xfs without causing >> > > problems for /boot. >> > >> > Why is tha

Re: /usr/lib vs /usr/libexec

2005-05-10 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
Russell Coker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On Tuesday 10 May 2005 02:18, Goswin von Brederlow > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> Russell Coker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >> > It seems to me that /usr/libexec is a better name for such things, and >> > having the same directory names used across dis

Re: /usr/lib vs /usr/libexec

2005-05-10 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
Russell Coker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On Tuesday 10 May 2005 10:36, Goswin von Brederlow > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> - / can't be on lvm, raid0, raid5, reiserfs, xfs without causing >> problems for /boot. > > I believe that there are LILO patches for /boot on LVM. There's no reason >

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Re: /usr/lib vs /usr/libexec

2005-05-10 Thread Josselin Mouette
Le mardi 10 mai 2005 à 17:27 +0200, Goswin von Brederlow a écrit : > > Almost all the schemas were already moved out to /usr/share. We plan to > > move the defaults directory structure to /var/lib/gconf after the > > release - at least, the defaults brought by package; we have to keep a > > default

Bug#308495: general: pmud does not turn off display

2005-05-10 Thread Jeffrey B. Green
Package: general Severity: grave When I close the lid on my iBook (clamshell, c.2000), pmud creates a screen with text on it, e.g. black screen with white text, but does not turn the screen off. It is definitely noticeable if the machine is sitting in a dark room. The green power light does go int

mrtg package problems

2005-05-10 Thread Laszlo Boszormenyi
Hi, The mrtg and related packages seems to be orphaned. Shiju p. Nair is last done an upload at 2004 April the 6th. Since then, there are only NMUs, like it was NMUed constantly since 2002. The package is a bit bad shape, would be good if someone look into them; there are even seven years old bugs

Re: /usr/lib vs /usr/libexec

2005-05-10 Thread Russell Coker
On Wednesday 11 May 2005 01:39, Goswin von Brederlow <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Russell Coker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > On Tuesday 10 May 2005 10:36, Goswin von Brederlow > > > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> - / can't be on lvm, raid0, raid5, reiserfs, xfs without causing > >> problems

Re: /usr/lib vs /usr/libexec

2005-05-10 Thread Humberto Massa
Thomas Bushnell BSG wrote: Andrew Suffield <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: We do not have that bug, so it's not important to us. Still, nobody has said. What filesystems available on Debian have a better than linear search time for open, and are they used by a default Debian install? These

Re: /usr/lib vs /usr/libexec

2005-05-10 Thread Russell Coker
On Wednesday 11 May 2005 01:28, Goswin von Brederlow <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Why would it be desirable to have arch-os directories under libexec? On fedora-devel Bill Nottingham suggested having /usr/lib vs /usr/lib64 for programs that care about such things and /usr/libexec for programs

Re: /usr/lib vs /usr/libexec

2005-05-10 Thread Humberto Massa
Thomas Bushnell BSG wrote: You've missed the point. Split / and /boot, that makes sense if it's necessary. Splitting / and /usr does not make sense. Sure it does. Especially if you want / to be in a Flash disk and /usr to be somewhere else in the network. HTH Massa -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email t

Re: /usr/lib vs /usr/libexec

2005-05-10 Thread Anthony DeRobertis
Thomas Bushnell BSG wrote: > Still, nobody has said. What filesystems available on Debian have a > better than linear search time for open, reiserfs, ext2/3 (with dir_index), and probably others. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [

Re: /usr/lib vs /usr/libexec

2005-05-10 Thread Christoph Hellwig
On Tue, May 10, 2005 at 02:03:01PM -0300, Humberto Massa wrote: > These are two questions: Q: What filesystems... ? A: Every one of them > with the possible exception of FAT and Minix. ext2 doesn't. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact

Re: /usr/lib vs /usr/libexec

2005-05-10 Thread Humberto Massa
Christoph Hellwig wrote: On Tue, May 10, 2005 at 02:03:01PM -0300, Humberto Massa wrote: These are two questions: Q: What filesystems... ? A: Every one of them with the possible exception of FAT and Minix. ext2 doesn't. With dir_index, yes it does. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [E

cogito_0.10-2 available, and request for Sponsor

2005-05-10 Thread Sebastian Kuzminsky
cogito_0.10-2 is up, it now puts the internal scripts and the shell library in /usr/share/cogito instead of /usr/lib/cogito. Thanks to Ben Finney and Peter Samuelson for cluing me in. You can get the package here: http://highlab.com/~seb/debian The only problem I know of with the package

Re: mrtg package problems

2005-05-10 Thread Adam Majer
Laszlo Boszormenyi wrote: >Hi, > >The mrtg and related packages seems to be orphaned. Shiju p. Nair is >last done an upload at 2004 April the 6th. Since then, there are only >NMUs, like it was NMUed constantly since 2002. The package is a bit >bad shape, would be good if someone look into them; th

Re: /usr/lib vs /usr/libexec

2005-05-10 Thread Christoph Hellwig
On Tue, May 10, 2005 at 02:21:50PM -0300, Humberto Massa wrote: > >ext2 doesn't. > > > With dir_index, yes it does. If you want to forward port a three year old patch full of bugs and incompatible to the dir_index used in ext3 - all luck to you. All debian kernel-image packages don't have it for

Re: Test of upgrade from Woody -> Sarge

2005-05-10 Thread Benjamin Mesing
> Manual edit of /etc/apt/sources.list and apt-get update ; apt-get > dist-upgrade. [NOTE: I'm fairly sure the archive layout changed for > non-US/main between Woody -> Sarge and I had problems here. Could be a > show stopper as not immediately obvious what to change] As far as I've read the list r

Re: Debian AMD64 Archive Move

2005-05-10 Thread Ed Cogburn
On Tuesday 10 May 2005 11:19am, Goswin von Brederlow wrote: > Ed Cogburn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > On Sunday 08 May 2005 9:27am, Joerg Jaspert wrote: > > In fact, looking through the non-free docs section, most of that can go > > in right now because they don't require anyone's permission to

Re: Debian AMD64 Archive Move

2005-05-10 Thread Kenneth Pronovici
On Tue, May 10, 2005 at 01:07:30PM -0400, Ed Cogburn wrote: > On Tuesday 10 May 2005 11:19am, Goswin von Brederlow wrote: > > Ed Cogburn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > On Sunday 08 May 2005 9:27am, Joerg Jaspert wrote: > > > In fact, looking through the non-free docs section, most of that can go

Re: mrtg package problems

2005-05-10 Thread Jeroen van Wolffelaar
On Tue, May 10, 2005 at 06:07:44PM +0200, Laszlo Boszormenyi wrote: > Hi, > > The mrtg and related packages seems to be orphaned. Shiju p. Nair is > last done an upload at 2004 April the 6th. Since then, there are only > NMUs, like it was NMUed constantly since 2002. The package is a bit > bad sha

pine license

2005-05-10 Thread Jaldhar H. Vyas
[was Re: Debian AMD64 Archive Move] On Tue, 10 May 2005, Goswin von Brederlow wrote: > > Just establish the non-free section and move everything over. If anyone > > complains then just drop the package they're complaining about. Of course, > > NO ONE is going to complain since they know we will

Bug#308521: ITP: mousepad -- simple Xfce oriented text editor

2005-05-10 Thread Emanuele Rocca
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Debian Xfce Maintainers <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> * Package name: mousepad Version : 0.2.2 Upstream Author : Erik Harrison <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> * URL : http://www.xfce.org/~benny/apps.html * License : GPL Description : sim

Re: packages missing from sarge

2005-05-10 Thread Jaldhar H. Vyas
On Sat, 7 May 2005, Joey Hess wrote: > So here is a list (from update-excuses) of all 491 packages that is > being held out of sarge[1]. If you've already done all you can on the RC > bugs on packages in sarge, take a look over it and if you spot anything > important or generally worth fixing, poi

Re: Debian AMD64 Archive Move

2005-05-10 Thread Wouter Verhelst
On Tue, May 10, 2005 at 01:07:30PM -0400, Ed Cogburn wrote: > On Tuesday 10 May 2005 11:19am, Goswin von Brederlow wrote: > > Seriously, get some patience and don't inflame the situation > > please. Things like "most of that" is of zero help in deciding what > > can go in and what not. We know most

Re: /usr/lib vs /usr/libexec

2005-05-10 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
GOMBAS Gabor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On Tue, May 10, 2005 at 11:16:54AM +0200, Bernd Eckenfels wrote: > >> the bootloader does not need to access the root filesystem. It only loads >> the kernel and the initrd from /boot. > > (I assume that /boot is on /. If not, the following still applies

Re: /usr/lib vs /usr/libexec

2005-05-10 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
Josselin Mouette <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Le mardi 10 mai 2005 à 17:27 +0200, Goswin von Brederlow a écrit : >> > Almost all the schemas were already moved out to /usr/share. We plan to >> > move the defaults directory structure to /var/lib/gconf after the >> > release - at least, the default

Re: Debian AMD64 Archive Move

2005-05-10 Thread Joerg Jaspert
On 10285 March 1977, Ed Cogburn wrote: >> Will you pay us for the work and cover legal fees if any should arise? > Sure. Because any rational person knows it won't happen. Laywers arent rationale. > Give us one reasonable example of why some one would waste time and > money to sue the amd64.de

Re: /usr/lib vs /usr/libexec

2005-05-10 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
Christoph Hellwig <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On Tue, May 10, 2005 at 02:03:01PM -0300, Humberto Massa wrote: >> These are two questions: Q: What filesystems... ? A: Every one of them >> with the possible exception of FAT and Minix. > > ext2 doesn't. Convert it to utilize directory hashing. Th

Re: pine license

2005-05-10 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
"Jaldhar H. Vyas" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > [was Re: Debian AMD64 Archive Move] > > On Tue, 10 May 2005, Goswin von Brederlow wrote: > >> > Just establish the non-free section and move everything over. If anyone >> > complains then just drop the package they're complaining about. Of course,

Re: /usr/lib vs /usr/libexec

2005-05-10 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
Russell Coker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On Wednesday 11 May 2005 01:39, Goswin von Brederlow > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> / on lvm is a major pain in case of error and if you already need a >> seperate / partition adding another for /boot is a bit stupid. > > / on LVM allows for snapshot b

Re: /usr/lib vs /usr/libexec

2005-05-10 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
Russell Coker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On Wednesday 11 May 2005 01:28, Goswin von Brederlow > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> > Why would it be desirable to have arch-os directories under libexec? > > On fedora-devel Bill Nottingham suggested having /usr/lib vs /usr/lib64 for > programs that

Re: mrtg package problems

2005-05-10 Thread Laszlo Boszormenyi
Hi, On Tue, 2005-05-10 at 12:23 -0500, Adam Majer wrote: > Currently there are two packages that he maintains, Yup. > I would like to maintain mrtg since I do use it. As to the other > package, it probably should be orphaned. OK, please check the bugs, review patches etc. for mrtg. I may even s

Bug#308533: ITP: gstat -- A program for multivariable geostatistical modelling, prediction and simulation

2005-05-10 Thread Francesco Paolo Lovergine
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: "Francesco P. Lovergine" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> * Package name: gstat Version : 2.4.4 Upstream Author : Edzer J. Pebesma <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> et al. * URL : http://www.gstat.org/ * License : GPL Description : A program f

Re: /usr/lib vs /usr/libexec

2005-05-10 Thread Josselin Mouette
Le mardi 10 mai 2005 à 21:37 +0200, Goswin von Brederlow a écrit : > Josselin Mouette <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > Le mardi 10 mai 2005 à 17:27 +0200, Goswin von Brederlow a écrit : > >> > Almost all the schemas were already moved out to /usr/share. We plan to > >> > move the defaults directo

Re: packages missing from sarge

2005-05-10 Thread Adrian Bunk
On Sun, May 08, 2005 at 03:54:46AM -0700, Steve Langasek wrote: > > Yes, it's called "garbage in, garbage out". If people aren't going to file > bugs at the proper severity, and if package maintainers aren't going to > treat release-critical bugs with the appropriate urgency when they *are* > fil

Re: packages missing from sarge

2005-05-10 Thread Adrian Bunk
On Mon, May 09, 2005 at 04:02:58PM +0200, Petter Reinholdtsen wrote: > [Adrian Bunk] > > The entry "packages:" was a bug in my quick&dirty scripting... > > Thanks for making a nice summary of the relevant packages. :) > > Feel free to include the script to generate the list when you generate > dy

Re: /usr/lib vs /usr/libexec

2005-05-10 Thread Roger Leigh
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Martin Waitz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > hoi :) > > On Mon, May 09, 2005 at 03:45:32PM +1000, Russell Coker wrote: >> Should we change some of these to /usr/libexec? > > well, it would be against the FHS, I think. > > The BSDs use libexec but I don'

Re: packages missing from sarge

2005-05-10 Thread Andreas Tille
On Tue, 10 May 2005, Adrian Bunk wrote: Speaking as somebody who is quite unrelated to release issues (except that I keep my packages bug free) I have some questions: were at the correct severity and tagged correctly, your release management is based on an assumption that isn't true. Interesting st

Re: packages missing from sarge

2005-05-10 Thread Adrian Bunk
On Tue, May 10, 2005 at 10:42:43PM +0200, Andreas Tille wrote: > On Tue, 10 May 2005, Adrian Bunk wrote: > > Speaking as somebody who is quite unrelated to release issues (except > that I keep my packages bug free) I have some questions: > > >were at the correct severity and tagged correctly, you

Re: Bug#308533: ITP: gstat -- A program for multivariable geostatistical modelling, prediction and simulation

2005-05-10 Thread Dirk Eddelbuettel
Howdy, Francesco Paolo Lovergine debian.org> writes: > Package: wnpp > Severity: wishlist > Owner: "Francesco P. Lovergine" debian.org> > > * Package name: gstat > Version : 2.4.4 > Upstream Author : Edzer J. Pebesma geog.uu.nl> et al. > * URL : http://www.gstat.or

Re: cogito_0.10-2 available, and request for Sponsor

2005-05-10 Thread Anibal Monsalve Salazar
On Tue, May 10, 2005 at 11:22:17AM -0600, Sebastian Kuzminsky wrote: >I'm a wanna-be new maintainer starting out the New Maintainer process. Please refer to http://nm.debian.org/. >I'm looking for a Debian Sponsor to upload this package to the archive. I'll upload it. However, we'll have to wait

Re: /usr/lib vs /usr/libexec

2005-05-10 Thread Andrew Suffield
On Tue, May 10, 2005 at 08:12:38AM -0700, Thomas Bushnell BSG wrote: > Andrew Suffield <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > We do not have that bug, so it's not important to us. > > Still, nobody has said. What filesystems available on Debian have a > better than linear search time for open, and ar

Re: /usr/lib vs /usr/libexec

2005-05-10 Thread Bernd Eckenfels
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> you wrote: > Still, nobody has said. What filesystems available on Debian have a > better than linear search time for open, and are they used by a > default Debian install? /etc/ld.so.cache Gruss Bernd -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject

Re: /usr/lib vs /usr/libexec

2005-05-10 Thread Bernd Eckenfels
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> you wrote: > No lvm backup data available in case of superblock corruption. Bad > idea. No booting with init=/bin/sh to patch things back together as / > can't be mounted. Bad idea again. You can store the backup wherever you like, and an emergency boot via usb stick

Re: /usr/lib vs /usr/libexec

2005-05-10 Thread Bernd Eckenfels
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> you wrote: > Why would it be desirable to have arch-os directories under libexec? For sharing the /usr tree among multiple machines with different architectures (I guess). Gruss Bernd -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe".

Re: dependency on base package adduser ?

2005-05-10 Thread Brian M. Carlson
On Tue, 2005-05-10 at 11:19 +0200, Bernd Eckenfels wrote: > In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> you wrote: > > libc6 is not and may not be marked Essential, as the NM process taught me. > > So its a bad example. > > Even if it is marked as essential, you have a versioned dependency, anyway. But the po

Re: cogito_0.10-2 available, and request for Sponsor

2005-05-10 Thread Adeodato =?iso-8859-1?Q?Sim=F3?=
* Sebastian Kuzminsky [Tue, 10 May 2005 11:22:17 -0600]: > I'm also looking to have my GPG key signed (I live in Colorado, USA), http://nm.debian.org/gpg.php -- Adeodato Simó EM: asp16 [ykwim] alu.ua.es | PK: DA6AE621 The most exciting phrase to hear in science, the one that heralds new

re: packages missing from sarge

2005-05-10 Thread Vincent McIntyre
Hi I'd like to raise the question of apt-proxy. I discussed offlist with JoeyH and he wasn't keen, but now I've done a few tests and have more confidence that this is worth raising. apt-proxy comes in two flavours - the old shell-based one and a new shiny python one. The most recent shell-based

Re: /usr/lib vs /usr/libexec

2005-05-10 Thread Brian May
> "Thomas" == Thomas Bushnell BSG <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Thomas> You've missed the point. Split / and /boot, that makes Thomas> sense if it's necessary. Splitting / and /usr does not Thomas> make sense. Bad example. A better example might be if you want to mount /usr via N

Re: adduser: what is the difference between --disabled-password and--disabled-login

2005-05-10 Thread Shaul Karl
On Mon, May 09, 2005 at 01:14:27PM -0400, Stephen Gran wrote: > This one time, at band camp, Marc Haber said: > > On Mon, 09 May 2005 15:34:06 +0300, Shaul Karl <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > >adduser(8) states that > > > > > >With the --disabled-login option, the account will be created but >

re: packages missing from sarge (apt-proxy)

2005-05-10 Thread Vincent McIntyre
sorry to followup my own post, but... I did a few apt-proxy-import tests by removing a random set of .debs out of the cache tree and importing again. This worked correctly. Cheers Vince -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTE

Re: /usr/lib vs /usr/libexec

2005-05-10 Thread Thomas Bushnell BSG
Humberto Massa <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > with the possible exception of FAT and Minix. Q: are they used by a > default? A: Last time I installed Debian (15 days ago), it asked me if > I wanted my partition ext3, xfs, or reiserfs IIRC; I chose reiserfs, > and I am pretty sure finding a file in

Re: /usr/lib vs /usr/libexec

2005-05-10 Thread Thomas Bushnell BSG
Goswin von Brederlow <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Christoph Hellwig <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > >> On Tue, May 10, 2005 at 02:03:01PM -0300, Humberto Massa wrote: >>> These are two questions: Q: What filesystems... ? A: Every one of them >>> with the possible exception of FAT and Minix. >> >>

Re: /usr/lib vs /usr/libexec

2005-05-10 Thread Thomas Bushnell BSG
Bernd Eckenfels <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> you wrote: >> Still, nobody has said. What filesystems available on Debian have a >> better than linear search time for open, and are they used by a >> default Debian install? > > /etc/ld.so.cache Um, no. ld.so.cache g

Re: packages missing from sarge

2005-05-10 Thread Steve Langasek
Hi Vince, On Wed, May 11, 2005 at 08:22:28AM +1000, Vincent McIntyre wrote: > apt-proxy comes in two flavours - the old shell-based one and a new shiny > python one. The most recent shell-based one is apt-proxy-1.3.7, in t-p-u. > The most recent python-based one is apt-proxy-1.9.28, in unstable.

Re: Questions about apt-get upgrade/install semantic

2005-05-10 Thread Gunnar Wolf
Daniel J. Axtens dijo [Fri, May 06, 2005 at 01:36:06PM +0800]: > > and not > > "apt-get upgrade " > > Possibly because apt-get upgrade is used to upgrade the whole system, > not just one package. My guess is that the developers didn't want to > overload the upgrade command. It is not only that -

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