Re: Another load of typos

2005-03-14 Thread Florian Zumbiehl
Hi, > > The rule I am following is that "a" vs. "an" is decided by pronounciation > > only - i.e., it's "an eff ey kju", but "a FAT file system". After all, > > that's how the exact letters are most easily read (without expanding > > acronyms or such). > > Your rule is correct: it is determined b

Re: Bits (Nybbles?) from the Vancouver release team meeting

2005-03-14 Thread Marc Haber
On Tue, 15 Mar 2005 11:46:51 +1100, Matthew Palmer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >I think a lot of users would consider it a problem. Imagine, would you be >happy with a highly visible public announcement of every vulnerability >against your servers, a week before you got the fix? If the alternative

Re: status of buildds?

2005-03-14 Thread Ingo Juergensmann
On Mon, Mar 14, 2005 at 08:43:40PM -0800, Thomas Bushnell BSG wrote: > For s390 and sparc, it appears that only one machine is in place > building these archs. As Bastian Blank said yesterday on IRC, w-b admins are idly refusing to add a new buildd for s390 to the ACLs. So, blame neuro and/or elm

Re: Bits (Nybbles?) from the Vancouver release team meeting

2005-03-14 Thread Marc Haber
On Tue, 15 Mar 2005 08:50:04 +1000, Anthony Towns wrote: > From the announcement: > >--- >Architectures that are no longer being considered for stable releases >are not going to be left out in the cold. The SCC infrastructure is >intended as a long-term option for these other architectures, and t

Re: Bits (Nybbles?) from the Vancouver release team meeting

2005-03-14 Thread Matthias Urlichs
Hi, Matthew Palmer wrote: >> However, I consider an update whose $ARCH binaries are released a week >> later not to be a problem. > > I think a lot of users would consider it a problem. Imagine, would you be > happy with a highly visible public announcement of every vulnerability > against your

Re: status of buildds?

2005-03-14 Thread Thomas Bushnell BSG
Ingo Juergensmann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On Mon, Mar 14, 2005 at 08:43:40PM -0800, Thomas Bushnell BSG wrote: > > > For s390 and sparc, it appears that only one machine is in place > > building these archs. > > As Bastian Blank said yesterday on IRC, w-b admins are idly refusing to add >

Re: Key management using a USB key

2005-03-14 Thread Matthias Urlichs
Hi, sean finney wrote: > - create a source package gnupg2 exists > - gnupg2 *only* produces package(s?) for the peripheral binar(y|ies) a binary for gnupg2 exists too, with a warning that it's not for public consumption > - when gnupg releases an official version 2, james uploads a new gnupg >

Re: Bits (Nybbles?) from the Vancouver release team meeting

2005-03-14 Thread Marc Haber
On Mon, 14 Mar 2005 15:52:22 -0500, David Nusinow <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >Sarge was already very late before Ubuntu existed. Our mirror network was >already strained before Ubuntu existed. Our release team was struggling to get >sarge out before Ubuntu existed. Our security team was already und

Re: Bits (Nybbles?) from the Vancouver release team meeting

2005-03-14 Thread Marc Haber
On Tue, 15 Mar 2005 10:45:45 +1000, Anthony Towns wrote: >Once you get over giggling at the phrasing (or maybe that's just me), >there're a few answers. The ones that come to my mind are: > > (a) Just build against testing/stable instead of unstable; when etch >happens, fix up any remaining pro

Re: Bits (Nybbles?) from the Vancouver release team meeting

2005-03-14 Thread Sven Luther
On Tue, Mar 15, 2005 at 07:32:12AM +0100, Marc Haber wrote: > On Mon, 14 Mar 2005 22:51:40 +0100, Sven Luther > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >On Mon, Mar 14, 2005 at 08:04:53PM +0100, Marc Haber wrote: > >> On Mon, 14 Mar 2005 19:11:01 +0100, Sven Luther > >> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> >Well,

Re: Supporting tier-2 (was Re: COUNT(buildd) IN (2,3))

2005-03-14 Thread Marc Haber
On Tue, 15 Mar 2005 11:48:53 +1100, Matthew Palmer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >I've seen no hesitation inducting new AMs, and I got solicited to be part of >the security team a couple of years ago which suggests that they're not >particularly picky about who they let in . A couple of years ago, we

Re: Bits (Nybbles?) from the Vancouver release team meeting

2005-03-14 Thread Steve Langasek
On Mon, Mar 14, 2005 at 10:32:57AM +0100, Sven Luther wrote: > On Mon, Mar 14, 2005 at 12:23:12AM -0800, Steve Langasek wrote: > > On Sun, Mar 13, 2005 at 11:21:29PM -0800, Thomas Bushnell BSG wrote: > > > Steve Langasek <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > > On Sun, Mar 13, 2005 at 10:47:15PM -0800,

Re: Bits (Nybbles?) from the Vancouver release team meeting

2005-03-14 Thread Matthias Urlichs
Hi, Matthew Garrett wrote: >> As I understand it, SCC *binaries* get their own domain / mirrors / >> everything, but the *source* shall be shared with the main archive. > > Uh. Not if you want to distribute any GPLed material. So we ask our mirrors to please pull the source if they pull any $ARC

Re: status of buildds?

2005-03-14 Thread Marc Haber
On 14 Mar 2005 22:51:23 -0800, Thomas Bushnell BSG <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >Ingo Juergensmann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >> As Bastian Blank said yesterday on IRC, w-b admins are idly refusing to add >> a new buildd for s390 to the ACLs. So, blame neuro and/or elmo, not s390... > >The s390 por

Re: [RFC] OpenLDAP automatic upgrade

2005-03-14 Thread Nikita V. Youshchenko
> ad b) where is that .ldif file to be saved? For small directories not an > issue (take /var/backups or something). For big directories it should be > on a different disk than /var/lib/ldap with enough space to get sensible > performance. I think that people who are running large directories shou

Re: status of buildds?

2005-03-14 Thread Thomas Bushnell BSG
Marc Haber <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > >The s390 porting team can perfectly well do what the hurd-i386 porting > >team does: build them themselves. I mean, umm, you don't have to be > >hooked into w-b to upload packages. > > Why are some architectures refused the same service that others get?

Re: Bits (Nybbles?) from the Vancouver release team meeting

2005-03-14 Thread Tollef Fog Heen
* Julien BLACHE (I'm not an employee of canonical, but I am a Ubuntu developer, FTR.) | How could we know ? We know nothing about Ubuntu, nothing about | Canonical, nothing about the goals, nothing about how everything was | done to begin with, nothing about who works or doesn't work there. Tha

Re: status of buildds?

2005-03-14 Thread Ingo Juergensmann
On Mon, Mar 14, 2005 at 11:37:31PM -0800, Thomas Bushnell BSG wrote: > > >The s390 porting team can perfectly well do what the hurd-i386 porting > > >team does: build them themselves. I mean, umm, you don't have to be > > >hooked into w-b to upload packages. > > Why are some architectures refused

Re: Questions for the DPL candidates

2005-03-14 Thread Andreas Tille
On Tue, 15 Mar 2005, Anthony Towns wrote: if you want a technical discussion instead of a political one it helps to ...not have it on a Debian mailing list. :-/ Quoting from http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel/ Development of Debian Discussion about technical development topics. You sho

Vancouver meeting - clarifications

2005-03-14 Thread Andreas Barth
Hello, world, please allow me as a member of the release team to share my view of the issue as I have been invited to the vancouver meeting as well. The contents of Steve's message were meant as a proposal, not as a definite decision and of course any input from you, whether as maintainers, as po

Re: Call for help / release criteria (was: Re: Bits (Nybbles?) from the Vancouver release team meeting)

2005-03-14 Thread Sven Luther
On Mon, Mar 14, 2005 at 07:05:52PM +0100, David Schmitt wrote: > On Monday 14 March 2005 17:31, Aurélien Jarno wrote: > > Frank Küster a écrit : > > > - First of all, we should take the details as a starting point for > > > discussion, not as a decision that has made. Nevertheless, we must > > >

Release sarge now, or discuss etch issues? (was: Bits (Nybbles?) from the Vancouver release team meeting)

2005-03-14 Thread Frank Küster
Christian Perrier <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > ...but quite sad (or happy?) to see that nearly only the proposal to handle > architectures differently got criticism...while this proposal contains > several other key point. I do not understand why the Nybbles team mixed their good news about sarge

Re: Bits (Nybbles?) from the Vancouver release team meeting

2005-03-14 Thread Mark Brown
On Mon, Mar 14, 2005 at 11:36:22AM -0500, David Nusinow wrote: > Aren't scc.debian.org (or perhaps various different hosts for each SCC) part > of > the plan in the email? I don't think anyone wants to break alioth further. The plan for scc.debian.org was for unstable plus snapshots of that. If

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