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On Fri, Jan 07, 2005 at 05:14:56PM -0200, Otavio Salvador wrote:
> || On Mon, 3 Jan 2005 01:08:49 -0500
> || Kevin Mark <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> km> Hi Folks,
> km> I have updated my diagram on the debian developement model. Any comments
> km> appreciated!
>
> IMHO have one wrong informat
Hello,
as part of my current effort of getting rid of packages using debconf
without providing support to translators, I had a bug repport against the
keychain package asking simply to drop this template:
Description: Information for people upgrading from versions prior to 2.0.
With this new ver
On Fri, 21 Jan 2005, Martin Quinson wrote:
> Dudes. There is a reason why those informations are not written to file by
> ssh itself. If my local machine gets corrupted, I'm happy to see the
And it is because all of ssh-agent is a second-thought crap, as evidenced by
the fact that stock ssh-agent
On Thu, 20 Jan 2005 21:27:46 +0100, Osamu Aoki <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
>Relax, he did not say "rm -rf /" in postinst.
That would be postrm.
Greetings
Marc
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On 20 Jan 2005 14:45:52 -0800, Thomas Bushnell BSG <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
>Yes. Debian packages are supposed to be able to be installed and
>start working without requiring any reboots. We've made this work
>pretty well for libc and all kinds of hard cases; you can make it work
>for yours too
On Fri, Jan 21, 2005 at 11:03:08 +0100, Marc Haber wrote:
> On 20 Jan 2005 14:45:52 -0800, Thomas Bushnell BSG <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
> >Yes. Debian packages are supposed to be able to be installed and
> >start working without requiring any reboots. We've made this work
> >pretty well for l
On Fri, 2005-01-21 at 11:03 +0100, Marc Haber wrote:
> On 20 Jan 2005 14:45:52 -0800, Thomas Bushnell BSG <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
> >Yes. Debian packages are supposed to be able to be installed and
> >start working without requiring any reboots. We've made this work
> >pretty well for libc
Hello,
I would like to ask about common practice in packaging libraries, especially
their development files. There is a rather old tool like pkg-config.
It gives standarized interface[1] for getting compiler and linker flags.
What is your recomendation for adding a .pc files in -dev package?
What i
Hi,
Am Freitag, 21. Januar 2005 12:08 schrieb Artur R. Czechowski:
> pkg-config. It gives standarized interface[1] for getting compiler and
> linker flags. What is your recomendation for adding a .pc files in -dev
> package? What is your recomendation for using pkg-config in packages
> dependend
* Tino Keitel ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [050121 13:02]:
> On Fri, Jan 21, 2005 at 11:03:08 +0100, Marc Haber wrote:
> > On 20 Jan 2005 14:45:52 -0800, Thomas Bushnell BSG <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > wrote:
> > >Yes. Debian packages are supposed to be able to be installed and
> > >start working without requi
"Kevin B. McCarty" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On 01/20/2005 05:24 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
>> Avoid gnuplot if you can, the license is GPL-incompatible and not one we
>> should encourage (See bug #100612 for why).
>
> (Checks gnuplot license and #100612)
> Argh, that will teach me not to a
Henrique de Moraes Holschuh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> On Fri, 21 Jan 2005, Martin Quinson wrote:
>> I'd drop the package from the archive right away. I have several cron jobs
>> using ssh keys (a new key for each cron, without pass and allowed to do only
>> one specific command on the remote h
* Andreas Barth ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [050121 13:10]:
> * Tino Keitel ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [050121 13:02]:
> > On Fri, Jan 21, 2005 at 11:03:08 +0100, Marc Haber wrote:
> > > On 20 Jan 2005 14:45:52 -0800, Thomas Bushnell BSG <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > wrote:
> > > >Yes. Debian packages are supposed t
On Fri, 21 Jan 2005, Goswin von Brederlow wrote:
> Henrique de Moraes Holschuh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> > This can very well be a much bigger security risk than doing what you
> > already do BUT using passphrases AND ssh-agent to reduce the window of
> > opportunity.
>
> Even if you get hold
* Andreas Barth [Fri, 21 Jan 2005 13:13:51 +0100]:
> using old libs. E.g.
> lsof | grep dpkg- | awk '{print $1, $8}' | sort +0
> helps you to find out which ones.
There is also checkrestart from the debian-goodies package. Seems to
do some more stuff, but don't know how much better it is.
Henrique de Moraes Holschuh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> On Fri, 21 Jan 2005, Goswin von Brederlow wrote:
>> Henrique de Moraes Holschuh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>> > This can very well be a much bigger security risk than doing what you
>> > already do BUT using passphrases AND ssh-agent to re
On Friday 21 January 2005 11:03, Marc Haber wrote:
> This prompts a question I have been wanting to ask for ages: When a
> security update for, say, libc6, libssl or libz is installed, do I
> need to restart services or not? That's one of the question you ask
> three people and get five different a
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On Fri, Jan 21, 2005 at 01:06:55PM +0100, Andreas Barth wrote:
> I disagree. You should warn the administrator that he has to do that.
> Especially just restarting ssh is _very_ wrong IMHO, because it can
> easily kill the only access to a remote computer.
Restarting sshd doesn't kill existing ses
Op do, 20-01-2005 te 21:27 +0100, schreef Osamu Aoki:
> On Thu, Jan 20, 2005 at 07:35:42PM +0100, Wouter Verhelst wrote:
> > Op do, 20-01-2005 te 15:09 -0300, schreef Diogo Kollross:
> > > Is there a problem in using something like
> > >
> > > shutdown -r now
> > >
> > > inside a postinst scrip
On Fri, Jan 21, 2005 at 10:22:02AM +0100, Martin Quinson wrote:
> A closer check to the package reveals that it's only useful if you want to
> open a security risk on your machine. All info relatives to the ssh-agent
> are written into a well known file, allowing cron jobs and attackers to use
> th
* Colin Watson ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [050121 14:50]:
> On Fri, Jan 21, 2005 at 01:06:55PM +0100, Andreas Barth wrote:
> > I disagree. You should warn the administrator that he has to do that.
> > Especially just restarting ssh is _very_ wrong IMHO, because it can
> > easily kill the only access to a
On Fri, Jan 21, 2005 at 07:42:07AM -0200, Henrique de Moraes Holschuh wrote:
> On Fri, 21 Jan 2005, Martin Quinson wrote:
> > Dudes. There is a reason why those informations are not written to file by
> > ssh itself. If my local machine gets corrupted, I'm happy to see the
>
> And it is because al
On Fri, 21 Jan 2005, Colin Watson wrote:
> On Fri, Jan 21, 2005 at 07:42:07AM -0200, Henrique de Moraes Holschuh wrote:
> > On Fri, 21 Jan 2005, Martin Quinson wrote:
> > > Dudes. There is a reason why those informations are not written to file by
> > > ssh itself. If my local machine gets corrupte
* Marc Haber:
> This prompts a question I have been wanting to ask for ages: When a
> security update for, say, libc6, libssl or libz is installed, do I
> need to restart services or not? That's one of the question you ask
> three people and get five different answers.
It depends. If the bug is
On Fri, 21 Jan 2005, Andreas Barth wrote:
> Yes. But I prefer verifying that I can login again after each ssh
> restart. So, I want to do that _only_ if I explicitly do it. (Others may
> disagree.)
I disagree ;-) The way it is done now, punishes lack of attention *IF* a
ssh bug breaks it, with a
On Fri, 21 Jan 2005, David Schmitt wrote:
> On Friday 21 January 2005 11:03, Marc Haber wrote:
> > This prompts a question I have been wanting to ask for ages: When a
> > security update for, say, libc6, libssl or libz is installed, do I
> > need to restart services or not? That's one of the questi
Quoting Henrique de Moraes Holschuh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> On Fri, 21 Jan 2005, Andreas Barth wrote:
> > Yes. But I prefer verifying that I can login again after each ssh
> > restart. So, I want to do that _only_ if I explicitly do it. (Others may
> > disagree.)
>
> I disagree ;-) The way it is
On Fri, Jan 21, 2005 at 11:00:49AM +0100, Marc Haber wrote:
> On Thu, 20 Jan 2005 21:27:46 +0100, Osamu Aoki <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
> >Relax, he did not say "rm -rf /" in postinst.
>
> That would be postrm.
or, prerm, since it hasn't been rm'd yet. postrm would be run after, if
only it sti
On Fri, Jan 21, 2005 at 12:00:30AM -0500, Eric Dorland wrote:
> Package: wnpp
> Severity: wishlist
>
> * Package name: blktool
> Version : 4
> Upstream Author : Jeff Garzik <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> * URL : http://sourceforge.net/projects/gkernel/
> * License : GPL
This reminds me of a horror story at a place I used to work. I was
browsing the 'Net on one of our production servers (this thing served
hundreds of banks around the world). I was looking for some fix or SP
for NT. I came across this site that started installing Flash Player.
It installed it, t
[David Sawyer]
> Moral of the story: NEVER SHUTDOWN OR REBOOT WITHOUT ASKING.
Another moral might be to always test the stuff you plan to do on a
production server on a test-server first. I fail to see how it is
sensible to browse the net on a production server. And I fail to see
how it is smar
On Fri, 21 Jan 2005, Petter Reinholdtsen wrote:
> [David Sawyer]
> > Moral of the story: NEVER SHUTDOWN OR REBOOT WITHOUT ASKING.
No. Never handle serious business like you'd handle your home's gateway
machine.
> Another moral might be to always test the stuff you plan to do on a
> production se
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* URL : http://libhdate.sourceforge.net
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Description : small C, C++ library fo
On Thu, 20 Jan 2005 15:09:46 -0300, Diogo Kollross wrote:
> Is there a problem in using something like
>
> shutdown -r now
>
> inside a postinst script of a package?
So I dist-upgrade, and it upgrades 12 packages. Your postinst runs before
any of the other 11. The computer reboots immediately
Roberto Sanchez wrote:
> If the system is that important to the admin, he will pay attention to such
> things. Imagine that you are upgrading ssh for some security update over the
> weekend. If your system is in some colo or other remote location where you
> are unable to access it until Monday m
Hi,
I am maintaining the packages of the MaxDB database system.
Recently upstream has converted the database kernel from
linuxthread-style threading to NPTL. While -at least for i386-
linuxthreads is still supported in MaxDB at this time, it will go away
in one of the next releases.
As far as I
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Martin Kittel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Hi,
>
>I am maintaining the packages of the MaxDB database system.
>
>Recently upstream has converted the database kernel from
>linuxthread-style threading to NPTL. While -at least for i386-
>linuxthreads is still supporte
Em Sex, 2005-01-21 Ãs 14:56 +0100, Andreas Barth escreveu:
> Yes. But I prefer verifying that I can login again after each ssh
> restart. So, I want to do that _only_ if I explicitly do it. (Others may
> disagree.)
I always do test I can still login after restarting ssh. The trick is
using a difer
On Fri, Jan 21, 2005 at 01:34:51PM -0500, Joey Hess wrote:
> If your system is in a colo, it would be wise to have a backup login
> method besides ssh.
Oh yes, especially since my ssh regularly beaks because of 2UsePam yes" and
"ListenAddress ::" while switching between stable and testing versio
pe, 2005-01-21 kello 20:11 +, Miquel van Smoorenburg kirjoitti:
> In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
> Martin Kittel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >As far as I know there is no NPTL support in 2.4 debian kernels (as for
> >example in some RedHat 2.4 kernels). Is that correct?
> >In that case I wi
Hi all,
Does anyone know the status of Daniel Lutz? I had mailed him a while
ago asking if he needs any help with the synergy package; the last
upload of the package was 14 months ago, with quite a few bugs open
that had not been dealt with, and a new major upstream stable release
had been made i
Miquel van Smoorenburg wrote:
>>As far as I know there is no NPTL support in 2.4 debian kernels (as for
>>example in some RedHat 2.4 kernels). Is that correct?
>>In that case I will have to add a dependency on kernel-image-2.6
>
> Bad idea. On my systems, there is no kernel-image installed at all
Scripsit Martin Kittel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> You can check in the preinst if the running kernel is new enough,
>> but that is about all you can do.
> But this happens only after you have downloaded the whole package
> and leaves you with a broken one. So I don't think that would be an
> acceptab
Henning Makholm makholm.net> writes:
>
> Scripsit Martin Kittel martin-kittel.de>
>
> >> You can check in the preinst if the running kernel is new enough,
> >> but that is about all you can do.
>
> > But this happens only after you have downloaded the whole package
> > and leaves you with a br
On Fri, Jan 21, 2005 at 07:51:22PM +0100, Martin Kittel wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I am maintaining the packages of the MaxDB database system.
>
> Recently upstream has converted the database kernel from
> linuxthread-style threading to NPTL. While -at least for i386-
> linuxthreads is still supported in
Kurt Roeckx wrote:
What is the problem with linuxthread? Are there some problems
linuxthreads cause that go away when using NPTL?
Upstream is switching to NPTL for performance reasons and because it
allows them to clean up a lot of their threading code. Currently there
is still support for linux
On Fri, Jan 21, 2005 at 11:05:58PM +0100, Kurt Roeckx wrote:
> On Fri, Jan 21, 2005 at 07:51:22PM +0100, Martin Kittel wrote:
> > Hi,
> >
> > I am maintaining the packages of the MaxDB database system.
> >
> > Recently upstream has converted the database kernel from
> > linuxthread-style threadi
|| On Fri, 21 Jan 2005 04:19:03 -0500
|| Kevin Mark <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
km> On Fri, Jan 07, 2005 at 05:14:56PM -0200, Otavio Salvador wrote:
>> || On Mon, 3 Jan 2005 01:08:49 -0500
>> || Kevin Mark <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>
km> Hi Folks,
km> I have updated my diagram on the debian de
On Fri, Jan 21, 2005 at 09:14:00PM +, Henning Makholm wrote:
> Scripsit Martin Kittel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>
> >> You can check in the preinst if the running kernel is new enough,
> >> but that is about all you can do.
>
> > But this happens only after you have downloaded the whole package
> >
pe, 2005-01-21 kello 15:42 -0700, Joel Aelwyn kirjoitti:
> However, is it really unreasonable to expect someone willing and able to
> build their own kernel to at *least* be able and willing to set up an
> equivs entry for the kernel provides?
That won't help enough. You can have a kernel-image-2.
On Sat, Jan 22, 2005 at 12:53:43AM +0200, Lars Wirzenius wrote:
> pe, 2005-01-21 kello 15:42 -0700, Joel Aelwyn kirjoitti:
> > However, is it really unreasonable to expect someone willing and able to
> > build their own kernel to at *least* be able and willing to set up an
> > equivs entry for the
On 21-Jan-05, 12:51 (CST), Martin Kittel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I am maintaining the packages of the MaxDB database system.
>
> [snip]
> In that case I will have to add a dependency on kernel-image-2.6 or does
> anyone know of a better way to express a dependency on NPTL style thr
I'm packaging SWT for GTK version 3.1M4, which is a prerelease of 3.1.
I want to eventually package 3.1. What options do I have for numbering
the prerelease so that 3.1 is a greater version number? If I
understand epochs, I could name the next one 1:3.1, although I'm not
particularly fond of that s
Shaun Jackman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> it must start with 3.0.x. Perhaps 3.0.3.1M4? Ugly. Any thoughts?
Post-sarge, I believe 3.1~m4 should work. For now, I'd probably call
it 3.0+3.1m4, which is slightly less ugly IMO than having dots
throughout. (I've used a similar notation for FLTK pre
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Hi,
Release-update of this month sounds really nice for me :-)
At Fri, 21 Jan 2005 20:11:03 -0800,
Steve Langasek wrote:
> Many of these security bugs have been fixed in unstable, and are just
> waiting to propagate to testing -- largely blocked by m
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