Re: /etc/shells management

2003-09-09 Thread Bob Proulx
Colin Watson wrote: > Adam Heath wrote: > > Guido Guenther wrote: > > > Just of out curiosity, is this in any way different from the shorter: > > > if [ "$var" ]; then > > var="-f" > Have you tried that? No POSIX shell will have a problem. You are confusing standards with portability. They are no

Re: installer for non-free packages in contrib

2003-09-09 Thread Ryan Underwood
Hi, On Mon, Sep 08, 2003 at 10:13:59AM +0100, Colin Watson wrote: > On Mon, Sep 08, 2003 at 09:35:45AM +0200, Mathieu Roy wrote: > > Would it be acceptable to fill a bug against each installer that do > > not build a proper debian package when installing non-free software? > > How can they do so

Re: IMPORTANT: your message to html-tidy

2003-09-09 Thread Karsten M. Self
on Tue, Sep 09, 2003 at 11:07:39AM +1000, Craig Sanders ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > On Sun, Sep 07, 2003 at 11:09:57PM -0700, Steve Lamb wrote: > > On Mon, 8 Sep 2003 15:40:15 +1000 > > Matthew Palmer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > On Mon, Sep 08, 2003 at 06:04:39AM +0100, Karsten M. Self wrote

Re: Need help on enhancing Telnet with srp

2003-09-09 Thread Marc Singer
Firstly, this isn't really the right place to ask this kind of question as this list is for maintainers of packages for the Debian distributions. Tar said, I am not sure that what you want to do is possible with Telnet as the telnet protocol is content-free. That is to say that it has no knowle

Re: installer for non-free packages in contrib

2003-09-09 Thread Andreas Metzler
Colin Watson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: [...] > unless you think that it's better for the installer package to spit > out a .deb somewhere which you then have to install separately, > which seems to me like a step backwards in convenience. Depends, generating a deb has some bright sides: 'dpkg -S'

Re: installer for non-free packages in contrib

2003-09-09 Thread Mathieu Roy
Colin Watson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> a tapoté : > > At this point, the question is not how to do it. I can think about 30 > > ways to do it, while I'm surely not the expert here. > > I asked you a question which could be answered quite simply by producing > one of those ways. Go on. It's my honest be

Re: installer for non-free packages in contrib

2003-09-09 Thread Mathieu Roy
Ryan Underwood <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> a tapoté : > Hi, > > On Mon, Sep 08, 2003 at 10:13:59AM +0100, Colin Watson wrote: > > On Mon, Sep 08, 2003 at 09:35:45AM +0200, Mathieu Roy wrote: > > > Would it be acceptable to fill a bug against each installer that do > > > not build a proper debian package

Re: installer for non-free packages in contrib

2003-09-09 Thread Bruce Sass
On Mon, 8 Sep 2003, Colin Watson wrote: > OK. How does one create an installer package which correctly does the > following: > > * creates a Debian package for the thing it's installing the installer contains a diff and dsc, downloads the orig source, then builds a .deb > * installs that pack

Re: unrebuildable ruby packages (Re: ruby-defaults 1.8.0)

2003-09-09 Thread Dmitry Borodaenko
On Mon, Sep 08, 2003 at 05:35:35PM -0400, Joey Hess wrote: > > RUBY_LINK=`ruby -rrbconfig -e 'puts Config::CONFIG["LIBRUBYARG_SHARED"]n'` > [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~>ruby -rrbconfig -e 'puts > Config::CONFIG["LIBRUBYARG_SHARED"]' > nil > [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~>ruby -v > rub

Re: autoconf and setting prefix

2003-09-09 Thread Oliver Kurth
On Tue, Sep 09, 2003 at 10:45:15AM +0900, Miles Bader wrote: > James Michael Greenhalgh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > (cd build && $(MAKE) install prefix=$(CURDIR)/debian/gcc4arm/usr) > > > > Dunno about 'prefix=' ... I've always used 'DESTDIR='? > > Specifying prefix on the make command line

Re: Bug#208508: bitmap vectorizers

2003-09-09 Thread Bartosz Feński aka fEnIo
On Mon, Sep 08, 2003 at 08:46:53PM +0200, Artur R. Czechowski wrote: > [ note: I have no interests in denying any of those packages, there is ] > [ a result of digging through wnpp bugs] > > Hello, > There are two packages looking similar: > #206859: O: autotrace --

Re: Need help on enhancing Telnet with srp

2003-09-09 Thread Russell Coker
On Tue, 9 Sep 2003 16:53, Marc Singer wrote: > Tar said, I am not sure that what you want to do is possible with > Telnet as the telnet protocol is content-free. That is to say that it > has no knowledge of when the user is sending a password and when the > user is sending some other type of data.

Re: autoconf and setting prefix

2003-09-09 Thread Miles Bader
Oliver Kurth <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > Specifying prefix on the make command line should work and not try to > > install to /usr (though he appears to be using it incorrectly so > > probably won't get what he wants). > > Using prefix is dangerous, because it may be compiled into the code or

Re: music sheet

2003-09-09 Thread Richard Atterer
On Tue, Sep 09, 2003 at 10:41:14AM +1000, Craig Sanders wrote: > why dont we just put up a page on www.debian.org with the requested sheet > music (or, if it's copyrighted then appropriate links to sites where it > can be found). FWIW, I always enjoy it when it comes up again. Maybe I should start

Re: /etc/shells management

2003-09-09 Thread Colin Watson
On Mon, Sep 08, 2003 at 11:18:44PM -0600, Bob Proulx wrote: > Colin Watson wrote: > > Adam Heath wrote: > > > Guido Guenther wrote: > > > > Just of out curiosity, is this in any way different from the shorter: > > > > if [ "$var" ]; then > > > > > > var="-f" > > > > Have you tried that? No POSIX

Re: installer for non-free packages in contrib

2003-09-09 Thread Colin Watson
On Tue, Sep 09, 2003 at 09:17:13AM +0200, Mathieu Roy wrote: > Colin Watson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> a tapot? : > > I asked you a question which could be answered quite simply by producing > > one of those ways. Go on. It's my honest belief that it can't be done > > correctly; I'm open to hearing ways i

Re: installer for non-free packages in contrib

2003-09-09 Thread Colin Watson
On Tue, Sep 09, 2003 at 01:24:07AM -0600, Bruce Sass wrote: > On Mon, 8 Sep 2003, Colin Watson wrote: > > * installs that package in such a way that it's registered in dpkg's > > database > > do the install in the background when the dpkg DB area is unlocked Yuck! Please, no! Error handling

Re: installer for non-free packages in contrib

2003-09-09 Thread Colin Watson
On Tue, Sep 09, 2003 at 12:37:04AM -0500, Ryan Underwood wrote: > On Mon, Sep 08, 2003 at 10:13:59AM +0100, Colin Watson wrote: > > On Mon, Sep 08, 2003 at 09:35:45AM +0200, Mathieu Roy wrote: > > > Would it be acceptable to fill a bug against each installer that do > > > not build a proper debian

translations and the ddtp

2003-09-09 Thread Martin Quinson
On Fri, Sep 05, 2003 at 11:21:18AM +0200, Wouter Verhelst wrote: > Op vr 05-09-2003, om 09:16 schreef Martin Quinson: > > On Thu, Sep 04, 2003 at 10:44:08PM -0700, Joshua Kwan wrote: > > > On Fri, Sep 05, 2003 at 07:15:57AM +0200, Martin Godisch wrote: > > > > Are these actually used somewhere? If

Re: music sheet

2003-09-09 Thread Ismael Valladolid Torres
El lunes, 8 de septiembre de 2003, a las 18:55, Jim Penny escribe: > The problem, amazingly enough, is that he did google for "dueling > banjos sheet music", and Debian is the number one and number two hit! Does anybody know, when the next stable release for Debian, will be "Deliveranced"? Maybe

RE: IMPORTANT: your message to html-tidy

2003-09-09 Thread Julian Mehnle
Karsten M. Self wrote: > [Using DNS RBLs to block spam is bad.] > As many people have noted, for pretty much _any_ > given IP, your odds are good that most of the mail received from it is > spam. It doesn't do much for the legit mail that comes through. Given > that we now _do_ have good content

gcc stops migration to testing?

2003-09-09 Thread Artur R. Czechowski
Hello, Could you enlight me where "Depends: php4-rrdtool gcc-3.3 (not considered)" comes from on http://packages.qa.debian.org/p/php4-rrdtool.html? I have no gcc dependencies neither build-deps. Cheers Artur -- szybszy niz najwyzszy budynek... inteligentniejszy od kuli w locie...

Re: installer for non-free packages in contrib

2003-09-09 Thread Mathieu Roy
Colin Watson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> a tapoté : > On Tue, Sep 09, 2003 at 09:17:13AM +0200, Mathieu Roy wrote: > > Colin Watson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> a tapot? : > > > I asked you a question which could be answered quite simply by producing > > > one of those ways. Go on. It's my honest belief that it ca

Re: installer for non-free packages in contrib

2003-09-09 Thread Andreas Metzler
Mathieu Roy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Colin Watson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> a tapoté : >> On Tue, Sep 09, 2003 at 09:17:13AM +0200, Mathieu Roy wrote: >> > Colin Watson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> a tapot? : >> > > I asked you a question which could be answered quite simply by producing >> > > one of those w

Re: gcc stops migration to testing?

2003-09-09 Thread Andreas Metzler
Artur R. Czechowski <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Could you enlight me where "Depends: php4-rrdtool gcc-3.3 (not considered)" > comes from on http://packages.qa.debian.org/p/php4-rrdtool.html? > I have no gcc dependencies neither build-deps. On i386. Check e.g. the binaries on arm, one of them (or

Re: gcc stops migration to testing?

2003-09-09 Thread Artur R. Czechowski
On Tue, Sep 09, 2003 at 01:55:14PM +0200, Andreas Metzler wrote: > Artur R. Czechowski <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I have no gcc dependencies neither build-deps. > On i386. > Check e.g. the binaries on arm, one of them (or its dependencies) > probably depends on libgcc1. Thanks for hint. Probabl

Re: IMPORTANT: your message to html-tidy

2003-09-09 Thread Steve Lamb
On Tue, 9 Sep 2003 07:49:36 +0100 > It's the same sort of thinking that's causing no end of trouble for people > trying to communicate with AOL users: > http://z.iwethey.org/forums/render/content/show?contentid=96264 > http://yro.slashdot.org/yro/03/04/13/2215207.shtml?tid=120 I've g

Re: installer for non-free packages in contrib

2003-09-09 Thread Sam Hocevar
On Tue, Sep 09, 2003, Colin Watson wrote: > > It could be something like debian/track where 'track' is a list of files > > to be tracked by this package as if they were contained within it when > > it was built (even though they are actually downloaded during the package's > > postinst or by anoth

Re: IMPORTANT: your message to html-tidy

2003-09-09 Thread Steve Lamb
On Tue, 9 Sep 2003 12:50:51 +0200 "Julian Mehnle" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > No, you can't make such a general statement that using content-based filters > is "better" than using DNS RBLs. It wholly depends on the listing policy of > the RBL, and in most cases, content-based filters will be the