Re: ximiam connector

2003-07-01 Thread Michael Banck
On Fri, Jun 27, 2003 at 07:56:02PM +0200, Jim Mintha wrote: > However at the moment red-carpet doesn't seem to work. Also the > sources line above doesn't seem to work either. The line: > deb http://trumpetti.atm.tut.fi/ximian/debian woody main > but that doesn't get you the connector. I've re

Re: Bug#198158: architecture i386 isn't i386 anymore

2003-07-01 Thread David B Harris
On Mon, 30 Jun 2003 18:17:57 +0200 Karsten Merker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I think ports to other kernels are generally worthwhile in and of > > themselves, simply for cleaning up the codebase and getting rid of > > unportable stuff. > > > > It's just plain old healthy is all. The previous c

Re: Attn: Mass bug filing: libtool requires updating

2003-07-01 Thread Christian Surchi
On Mon, Jun 30, 2003 at 06:02:29PM +0200, Lucio wrote: > Hi everybody! > I am an Italian security admin, and I can progam in c /c++ / java. > I like very much debian, so i would like to start helping the project. > I would like to partecipate to development, is there someone I could help? > I would

Re: [VAC] June 9 - August 30 [UPDATE]

2003-07-01 Thread Miles Bader
Daniel Burrows <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > The contract they gave me assigns copyright to any computer code I > write this summer to NASA; since it's only for 2.5 months, I didn't > bother making a fuss about it. I understand your not making a fuss, but I think an offhand gripe or two to your ma

Re: but I want the GNU versions of packages

2003-07-01 Thread Joshua Kwan
On Mon, Jun 30, 2003 at 10:01:43PM +0100, Andrew Suffield wrote: > Then they have no business using awk. Idealism goes farther than you'd think... -Josh -- A man may be so much of everything that he is nothing of anything. -- Samuel Johnson pgpCdEHyyWB3a.pgp Description: PGP signatur

Re: but I want the GNU versions of packages

2003-07-01 Thread Dan Jacobson
> what's the point? Surely you want the best, not necessarily the GNU > version (which might be an incredibly bleeding-edge pre-alpha thing, > like for example mailutils was not so long ago)? OK, let's just say I like the GNU guys and would like them to know if there are any bugs in their stuff, o

Re: Bug#198957: ITP: email -- Send email from command line, either via MTA or SMTP, with optional encryption

2003-07-01 Thread Millis Miller
Thanks for the comment - I have already abandoned this ITP. Millis On Tue, 2003-07-01 at 02:42, Miles Bader wrote: > Lukas Geyer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > I am not really sure that "email" satisfies this criterion. Maintaining > > non-free packages is a hassle, it might be easier to write a

Re: debootstrapping and sysvinit

2003-07-01 Thread Miquel van Smoorenburg
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Tobias Wolter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >On 2003-06-29T12:40:56+ (Sunday), Miquel van Smoorenburg wrote: > >> Yes, NMUing essential packages without bothering to contact the >> maintainer is cooperation at work. NOT. > >Between pissing off a maintainer and leav

Re: Windows macro virus

2003-07-01 Thread Branden Robinson
On Mon, Jun 30, 2003 at 09:07:25PM +1000, Matthew Palmer wrote: > That's odd, because debian-devel@lists.debian.org is a mailing list run on a > Debian GNU/Linux machine, which is immune to windows macro virii. You *do* realize that saying "virii" is a guaranteed method of summoning Thomas Bushnel

db.debian.org

2003-07-01 Thread Michael Koch
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi list, Is db.debian.org gone into nirvana ? [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~> host db.debian.org db.debian.org has address 209.249.97.234 [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~> ping -c 4 db.debian.org PING db.debian.org (209.249.97.234) 56(84) bytes of data. - --- db.debian.o

Bug#199518: ITP: libcommons-lang-java -- Extension of the java.lang package

2003-07-01 Thread Arnaud Vandyck
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist * Package name: libcommons-lang-java Version : 1.0.1 Upstream Authors: Christopher Elkins <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Daniel Rall <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Ed Korthof <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Fredrik Weste

Bug#199524: ITP: libcommons-validator-java -- Ease and speed development and maintenance of validation rules

2003-07-01 Thread Arnaud Vandyck
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist * Package name: libcommons-validator-java Version : 1.0.2 Upstream Authors: David Winterfeldt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Craig McClanahan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, James Turner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Ma

Re: Attn: Mass bug filing: libtool requires updating

2003-07-01 Thread Jose Carlos Garcia Sogo
El día 30 jun 2003, christophe barbe escribía: > On Sun, Jun 29, 2003 at 07:52:57PM +0100, Scott James Remnant wrote: [...] > > Newer versions of libtool instead use a much better checking method, > > however the following source packages have not updated (list obtained by > > grepping mips and m

Re: [VAC] June 9 - August 30 [UPDATE]

2003-07-01 Thread Jose Carlos Garcia Sogo
El día 30 jun 2003, Daniel Burrows escribía: > Just an update-- > > As I mentioned previously, I am working for NASA over the summer. The > contract they gave me assigns copyright to any computer code I write > this summer to NASA; since it's only for 2.5 months, I didn't bother WHAT??

Re: Bug#198957: ITP: email -- Send email from command line, either via MTA or SMTP, with optional encryption

2003-07-01 Thread Miles Bader
Lukas Geyer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > I am not really sure that "email" satisfies this criterion. Maintaining > non-free packages is a hassle, it might be easier to write a free > replacement in the time saved by messing around with non-free packages > and getting special Debian redistribution

Re: but I want the GNU versions of packages

2003-07-01 Thread Miles Bader
David B Harris <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > A fair numbe rof those apps you probably want were implemented in Debian > before GNU made their own versions - install-info(8) is one of the ones > most often griped about. Careful... mentioning this issue invariably seems to generate all kind of bile

Re: but I want the GNU versions of packages

2003-07-01 Thread Miles Bader
Mathieu Roy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > It proves that the user interface of gawk is more friendly, nothing > more. Yeah; the thing about mawk is that it's a great little program, fairly robust and wicked fast -- much faster than gawk for things I do -- but the last time I checked, it hadn't re

Re: but I want the GNU versions of packages

2003-07-01 Thread Miles Bader
Andrew Suffield <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Then they have no business using awk. ??? Awk is very friendly (friendlier than perl anyway). -Miles -- 自らを空にして、心を開く時、道は開かれる

Debian job board?

2003-07-01 Thread Will Newton
Is there any place where someone could advertise jobs that would be suitable for Debian developers?

Re: but I want the GNU versions of packages

2003-07-01 Thread Martijn van Oosterhout
On Tue, Jul 01, 2003 at 10:55:44AM +0800, Dan Jacobson wrote: > >From the tone of your message, I bet there are lots that you fellows > have pre-chosen for us new debian users. So far I have discovered > mawk, and mailx. So, out with it, what are the rest? Umm, I don't really think there was a l

RE: Movie

2003-07-01 Thread Celtic Car Rental
If you didn't know you sent me this email, you have a virus. -Original Message- From: debian-devel@lists.debian.org [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 01 July 2003 14:36 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Movie Please see the attached zip file for details.

Re: Bug#199518: ITP: libcommons-lang-java -- Extension of the java.lang package

2003-07-01 Thread Adam Heath
On Tue, 1 Jul 2003, Arnaud Vandyck wrote: > Description : Extension of the java.lang package And?

Re: Bug#199524: ITP: libcommons-validator-java -- Ease and speed development and maintenance of validation rules

2003-07-01 Thread Adam Heath
On Tue, 1 Jul 2003, Arnaud Vandyck wrote: > Description : Ease and speed development and maintenance of validation > rules And?

samosa (aka db.debian.org) problems

2003-07-01 Thread James Troup
Hi, As many of you will have already noticed samosa is down and has been for a while. Unfortunately the machine is in a bad way - the motherboard just beeps constantly when the machine's powered on. The local admin has taken it out of it's rack and home with him to try and fix it. However even

Debconf or not debconf

2003-07-01 Thread Julien LEMOINE
Hello, I received a bug report on stunnel package from an user [1] that complained about the fact that I didn't warning about the new /etc/default/stunnel file introduced in package (thereis a note in README.Debian and in changelog). Since debconf is not really appreciated for th

Re: db.debian.org

2003-07-01 Thread Martin Schulze
Michael Koch wrote: > Is db.debian.org gone into nirvana ? > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~> host db.debian.org > db.debian.org has address 209.249.97.234 > [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~> ping -c 4 db.debian.org > PING db.debian.org (209.249.97.234) 56(84) bytes of data. > > --- db.debian.org ping statistics --- >

Re: but I want the GNU versions of packages

2003-07-01 Thread Lukas Geyer
Dan Jacobson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > So, how does one find the rest of the packages on one's system that > "Conflicts:" with genuine GNU alternative packages. > > From the tone of your message, I bet there are lots that you fellows > have pre-chosen for us new debian users. So far I have d

Re: Bug#197886: make still broken after 12 days

2003-07-01 Thread Manoj Srivastava
On Mon, 30 Jun 2003 10:07:12 -0500, Steve Langasek <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: > On Mon, Jun 30, 2003 at 09:27:20AM -0500, Adam Heath wrote: >> On Mon, 30 Jun 2003, Samium Gromoff wrote: >> >I`ll proceed in the time order of events: >> > >> > Tue, 17 Jun 2003 15:52:38 +0400: >> >I`

Re: [VAC] June 9 - August 30 [UPDATE]

2003-07-01 Thread Daniel Burrows
On Tue, Jul 01, 2003 at 12:15:10AM +0200, Jose Carlos Garcia Sogo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> was heard to say: > El día 30 jun 2003, Daniel Burrows escribía: > > Just an update-- > > > > As I mentioned previously, I am working for NASA over the summer. The > > contract they gave me assigns copyrigh

Re: debootstrapping and sysvinit

2003-07-01 Thread Tollef Fog Heen
* (Miquel van Smoorenburg) [...] | Now, did the NMU follow the rules in the developers reference ? aj opened[1] the bug hunting season last year.. it hasn't closed yet. (sure, waldi could have put the NMU in delayed..) [1] http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel-announce/2002/debian-devel-anno

Re: but I want the GNU versions of packages

2003-07-01 Thread Joshua Kwan
On Tue, Jul 01, 2003 at 10:55:44AM +0800, Dan Jacobson wrote: > OK, let's just say I like the GNU guys and would like them to know if > there are any bugs in their stuff, otherwise how will it improve? If you are genuinely interested, you will seek these packages out. Debian cannot diversify to ev

Re: Debian job board?

2003-07-01 Thread Sven Luther
On Tue, Jul 01, 2003 at 12:28:01PM +0100, Will Newton wrote: > > Is there any place where someone could advertise jobs that would be suitable > for Debian developers? Rapahel Hertzog spoke about something such some time back, when i looked at it back then, it was still empty, but it was some mon

Re: db.debian.org

2003-07-01 Thread Rene Engelhard
Hi, Michael Koch wrote: > Connections with webbrowser fails too. Can someone please notify its > admin ? They already know... Grüße/Regards, René -- .''`. René Engelhard -- Debian GNU/Linux Developer : :' : http://www.debian.org | http://people.debian.org/~rene/ `. `' [EMAIL PROTECTED] |

Re: [VAC] June 9 - August 30 [UPDATE]

2003-07-01 Thread Branden Robinson
On Tue, Jul 01, 2003 at 12:15:10AM +0200, Jose Carlos Garcia Sogo wrote: > WHAT??? > > I could understan this if you write that code in NASA computers > (though only in part), but if you write that in your home and that's > legal, I honestly think that you need to change your country i

Bug#199612: ITP: minido -- A simple, generic, multi-user, database free todo list manager / tracking system written in GTK2

2003-07-01 Thread francesco levorato
Package: wnpp Version: unavailable; reported 2003-07-01 Severity: wishlist Package name: minido Version : 0.3-1 Upstream Author : Michael Opdenacker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> URL : http://michaelo.free.fr/minido/ License : GPL Description : A simple, generic, mu

Re: debootstrapping and sysvinit

2003-07-01 Thread Tobias Wolter
On 2003-07-01T07:49:20+ (Tuesday), Miquel van Smoorenburg wrote: > In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, > Tobias Wolter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On 2003-06-29T12:40:56+ (Sunday), Miquel van Smoorenburg wrote: > >> Yes, NMUing essential packages without bothering to contact the > >> maint

Re: inews path question

2003-07-01 Thread Roger Leigh
Vincent Zweije <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >>From the (admittedly years old) impression I got from inn, inews should be > seen as the news injector (inject-news), corresponding to what sendmail > is for mail, meant as a backend to other programs that allow you to > post messages, but not supposed

Re: db.debian.org

2003-07-01 Thread Martin Wuertele
* Michael Koch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2003-07-01 16:20]: > Is db.debian.org gone into nirvana ? 20:43 -!- Topic for #debian-devel: FUCKED: XSF ViewCVS access, samosa (db), ^^^ gtkmm with new gcc | mailing lists still

Re: Debconf or not debconf

2003-07-01 Thread Adam Heath
On Tue, 1 Jul 2003, Julien LEMOINE wrote: > Hello, > > I received a bug report on stunnel package from an user [1] that > complained > about the fact that I didn't warning about the new /etc/default/stunnel file > introduced in package (thereis a note in README.Debian and in changelog). > >

Re: Debconf or not debconf

2003-07-01 Thread Artur R. Czechowski
Hello On Tue, Jul 01, 2003 at 05:12:22PM +0200, Julien LEMOINE wrote: > Since debconf is not really appreciated for this use, what is the best > solution ? Inform users with debconf or give them informations only in > changelog and README.Debian ? Important changes should be announced to us

Re: Movie

2003-07-01 Thread Corrin Lakeland
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Wednesday 02 July 2003 01:38, Celtic Car Rental wrote: > If you didn't know you sent me this email, you have a virus. Hi, thanks for your message. We didn't send the mail, nor do we have a virus. A spammer is just pretending to be sending mail

Re: but I want the GNU versions of packages

2003-07-01 Thread Steve Langasek
On Tue, Jul 01, 2003 at 10:55:44AM +0800, Dan Jacobson wrote: > And mawk: development halted years ago. Wouldn't any awk bugs I find > be better reported for gawk? What's an "awk bug"? Why is it better to file it against gawk? If mawk is the implementation that has the bug, you should file it

Re: but I want the GNU versions of packages

2003-07-01 Thread Mathieu Roy
> If you think there is a compelling reason to change and can show that gawk > and mawk are 100% compatable, maybe it can be worked on. But it seems most > people don't really care. Having bugs not fixed in 4 years (3 years even with a patch provided) in the default awk provided by Debian seems qu

Re: but I want the GNU versions of packages

2003-07-01 Thread James Troup
Mathieu Roy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Having bugs not fixed in 4 years (3 years even with a patch > provided) Don't be such a disingenuous troll. The patch for that _wishlist_ bug has been there since April. Not for 3 years. -- James

Re: Bug#199524: ITP: libcommons-validator-java -- Ease and speed development and maintenance of validation rules

2003-07-01 Thread Arnaud Vandyck
Adam Heath <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Tue, 1 Jul 2003, Arnaud Vandyck wrote: > > > Description : Ease and speed development and maintenance of > > validation rules > > And? The Commons Validator is a basic validation framework that lets you define validation rules for a JavaBean i

Re: Windows macro virus

2003-07-01 Thread Matthew Palmer
On Tue, 1 Jul 2003, Branden Robinson wrote: > On Mon, Jun 30, 2003 at 09:07:25PM +1000, Matthew Palmer wrote: > > That's odd, because debian-devel@lists.debian.org is a mailing list run on a > > Debian GNU/Linux machine, which is immune to windows macro virii. > > You *do* realize that saying "vi

Re: debootstrapping and sysvinit

2003-07-01 Thread Theodore Ts'o
Miquel, It is certainly true that sysvinit is an important package, and as such, it requires either frequent care and attention to deal with bugs (and you have a lot[1] of open bugs against the sysvinit package). For better or for worse, the release history of sysvinit has not been one which has b

Re: Debconf or not debconf

2003-07-01 Thread Tore Anderson
* Julien LEMOINE > I received a bug report on stunnel package from an user [1] that > complained about the fact that I didn't warning about the new > /etc/default/stunnel file introduced in package (thereis a note in > README.Debian and in changelog). > > Since debconf is not reall

Re: debootstrapping and sysvinit

2003-07-01 Thread Miquel van Smoorenburg
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Tobias Wolter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >No. From my point of view, it's an acceptable step out of bounds. For me it isn't. >I still haven't seen any bugfix from you. How about you go stop >ranting about being treated unfair and DOING YOUR WORK? And you think an

Re: debootstrapping and sysvinit

2003-07-01 Thread Anthony Towns
On Tue, Jul 01, 2003 at 06:35:50PM +0200, Tollef Fog Heen wrote: > * (Miquel van Smoorenburg) > | Now, did the NMU follow the rules in the developers reference ? > aj opened[1] the bug hunting season last year.. it hasn't closed yet. While this is true, Bastian didn't actually follow even the lig