Re: PAM messages on chrooted console

2003-06-01 Thread Ming Hua
Thanks everyone for your kind help! Since I am setting this chroot environment as an experimental area (maybe I'll install sid there), security is not a big concern. Therefore I used Andreas' solution: modify /etc/init.d/sysklogd to SYSLOGD='/var/chroot/dev/log' and restart syslogd. I am goin

Re: Anti Open Source Psyops / "Mind Tweakers"? (they'll never believe we're really aliens dept)

2003-06-01 Thread Jesse Meyer
On Sat, 31 May 2003, William Lee Irwin III wrote: > On Sat, May 31, 2003 at 01:23:29AM -0700, Karl M. Hegbloom wrote: > > [snip paranoid ravings] > Holy s**t you really are nuts. If this is serious, I second your opinion. Unfortunately, being totally, completely, and absolutely unhinged must be o

dbtcp RFP->ITP

2003-06-01 Thread Daniel Stone
retitle 114398 ITP: dbtcp -- A client for the MS Windows ODBC proxy server thanks [Please reply to me, Cc'ing the list, as per the M-F-T header]. Hi all! Just a quick note to say that I've packaged up dbtcp, and am thus taking over the RFA (#114398). It was pretty fun to package - a PHP4 module t

Re: Anti Open Source Psyops / "Mind Tweakers"? (they'll never believe we're really aliens dept)

2003-06-01 Thread Adam Heath
On 31 May 2003, Karl M. Hegbloom wrote: > [snip] HAHAHAHAHAHA. I needed that. Thanks for the laugh. Made my day.

Re: new bug tags

2003-06-01 Thread Fabio Massimo Di Nitto
On Sun, 1 Jun 2003, Guido Guenther wrote: > On Sat, May 31, 2003 at 04:23:49PM +0100, Colin Watson wrote: > > The BTS now has "lfs" (large file support) and "ipv6" tags. > > http://bugs.debian.org/tag:lfs and http://bugs.debian.org/tag:ipv6 will > > search for matching bugs. > Since we're using bu

Re: new bug tags

2003-06-01 Thread Colin Watson
On Sun, Jun 01, 2003 at 12:52:02AM +0200, Guido Guenther wrote: > On Sat, May 31, 2003 at 04:23:49PM +0100, Colin Watson wrote: > > The BTS now has "lfs" (large file support) and "ipv6" tags. > > http://bugs.debian.org/tag:lfs and http://bugs.debian.org/tag:ipv6 will > > search for matching bugs. >

Re: Changelog issues with (among others) tkdiff 1:3.08-4

2003-06-01 Thread Herbert Xu
Brian Nelson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Adrian Bridgett <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > >> Changes: >> tkdiff (1:3.08-4) unstable; urgency=low >> . >>* lintian fixes > > Issues that lintian reports are, in most cases, bugs. Bugs that you > have fixed should be explicitly described in t

Re: Accepted pointless 0.3-3 (i386 source)

2003-06-01 Thread Marco Presi
|| On Mon, 19 May 2003 14:01:29 -0700 || Brian Nelson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: bn> reopen 193287 bn> reopen 193286 bn> thanks bn> Marco Presi (Zufus) <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >> Format: 1.7 >> Date: Wed, 14 May 2003 20:30:39 +0200 >

Re: Accepted pointless 0.3-3 (i386 source)

2003-06-01 Thread Marco Presi
|| On Tue, 20 May 2003 00:18:34 -0500 (CDT) || Adam Heath <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: ah> On Mon, 19 May 2003, Brian Nelson wrote: >> reopen 193287 >> reopen 193286 >> thanks >> > . >> >* Closes: #193287 >> >* Closes: #193286

[TRAVEL] 1-9th June Helsinki/Finnland

2003-06-01 Thread Florian Lohoff
Hi, i'll be in Helsinki/Finnland for the whole of next week (probably longer) to work. Nevertheless i'd like to meet up with other Debian enthusiasts if time permits for having a Beer (Seems to be kind of expensive according to www.alko.fi), Keysigning, Lunch etc ... I'll be reachable on my mobi

Re: Accepted pointless 0.3-3 (i386 source)

2003-06-01 Thread Colin Watson
On Sun, Jun 01, 2003 at 11:16:36AM +0200, Marco Presi wrote: > || On Mon, 19 May 2003 14:01:29 -0700 > || Brian Nelson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> Changes: > >> pointless (0.3-3) unstable; urgency=low > >> . > >> * Closes: #193287 > >> * Closes: #193286 > >

Re: Accepted pointless 0.3-3 (i386 source)

2003-06-01 Thread Marco Presi
|| On Sun, 01 Jun 2003 11:21:41 +0200 || "Marco Presi" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: || On Tue, 20 May 2003 00:18:34 -0500 (CDT) || Adam Heath <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: mp> I had applied (the right) patches suggested in bug reports.. So what do mp> you mean? Sorry, now I saw

Re: Anti Open Source Psyops / "Mind Tweakers"? (they'll never believe we're really aliens dept)

2003-06-01 Thread Branden Robinson
On Sat, May 31, 2003 at 01:23:29AM -0700, Karl M. Hegbloom wrote: > Happy un-halloween. The truth is out there -- apt-get into it, local > shadow repositories potentially excepted. You know, I was just saying on #debian-devel within the past couple of days how I missed Karl Hegbloom's psychotical

Re: new bug tags

2003-06-01 Thread Wouter Verhelst
On Sun, Jun 01, 2003 at 08:17:55AM +0100, Colin Watson wrote: > Surely porters can already recognize architecture-specific issues based > on, let's say, the packages which fail to build on their architecture > (which seems to make up at least 90% of porting bugs)? Uh, sure. But that's not the poin

Re: Symlinking /usr/share/doc/ is not allowed

2003-06-01 Thread Adrian Bunk
On Tue, May 20, 2003 at 02:32:12PM -0400, Matt Zimmerman wrote: > On Tue, May 20, 2003 at 08:00:21PM +0200, Andreas Barth wrote: > > > I don't see any objection to symlinking if both packages are created of > > the same sourcepackage, the second one depends on =first-package-version > > and (natur

Bug#195663: ITP: libgtksourceview1.0-0 -- Syntax highlighting widget for GTK+

2003-06-01 Thread Andrew Lau
Package: wnpp Version: unavailable; reported 2003-06-01 Severity: wishlist * Package name: libgtksourceview1.0-0 Version : 0.2.1 Upstream Author : Gustavo Girldez Paolo Maggi Jeroen Zwartepoorte Mikael Hermansson

Re: Galeon 1.2.x on pila (finally!)

2003-06-01 Thread Daniel Stone
On Sun, Jun 01, 2003 at 09:06:40PM +1000, Daniel Stone wrote: > Gentlemen, > I've restored Galeon on pila to its former 1.2.x glory. A few packages > (galeon, galeon-common, mozilla-browser, mozilla-psm, libnss3, libnspr4) > are now on hold: don't touch them (and watch apt quietly playing with > th

Re: Accepted pointless 0.3-3 (i386 source)

2003-06-01 Thread Andreas Metzler
Marco Presi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: [changelog abuse] > Could you send me more information? Developer's reference - 6.3 Best practices for debian/changelog | | * Closes: #12345, #12346, #15432 | | Where's the description? If you can't think of a descriptive | message, start by ins

ignore (misdirected) parent (was: Re: Galeon 1.2.x on pila (finally!))

2003-06-01 Thread Daniel Stone
On Sun, Jun 01, 2003 at 10:07:07PM +1000, Daniel Stone wrote: > [stuff utterly irrelevant to -devel] Please ignore the parent post; somehow, mutt managed to take a mail sent to 'oldk, bhat', and reply to -devel. *shrug*. Sorry, Daniel -- Daniel Stone <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> <[EM

Re: Bug#193497: marked as done (svtools: svsetup uses bashism "echo -e")

2003-06-01 Thread Rene Engelhard
reopen 193497 thanks Hi, Debian Bug Tracking System wrote: > Changes: > svtools (0.4-1) unstable; urgency=low > . >* New upstream version (Closes: #193497) Meep. No. Write proper changelogs and(or close bugs the right way[tm]. That form is only acceptable for "New upstream version, pleas

Re: Bug#195426: O: multi-gnome-terminal -- Enhanced the GNOME Terminal

2003-06-01 Thread Baruch Even
* Christian Surchi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [030601 13:59]: > On Fri, May 30, 2003 at 09:01:37PM +0300, Baruch Even wrote: > > MGT is much more capable than gnome-terminal, I prefer the power of MGT > > over gnome-terminal, and if no-one else will step in, I'd be willing to > > maintain MGT myself. > >

Re: Debian menu system update

2003-06-01 Thread Bernhard R. Link
* Colin Walters <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [030530 19:45]: > What do you mean "consistent concept overall"? Using the freedesktop > standards makes things more consistent, not less. Then please point to a documentation, how to overwrite the menus installed with the packages as admin or other things like

Bug#195481: fragmented location info: hassle for users especially mobile ones

2003-06-01 Thread Barak Pearlmutter
Well okay, granted ... but the locale would almost always be explicitly set, and wouldn't change when eg the lat/long are modified.

Re: new bug tags

2003-06-01 Thread James Troup
Wouter Verhelst <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On Sun, Jun 01, 2003 at 12:52:02AM +0200, Guido Guenther wrote: >> On Sat, May 31, 2003 at 04:23:49PM +0100, Colin Watson wrote: >> > The BTS now has "lfs" (large file support) and "ipv6" tags. >> > http://bugs.debian.org/tag:lfs and http://bugs.debian

Re: Debian menu system update

2003-06-01 Thread Bernhard R. Link
* Chris Cheney <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [030530 20:50]: > > I think making things consistent needs us to write them on our own, > > taking upstream entries as suggestions. In my eyes it is just the same > > as with the directories software is installed into. There are just too > > many ways to do it an

Re: new bug tags

2003-06-01 Thread David B Harris
On Sun, 01 Jun 2003 15:33:29 +0100 James Troup <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> Since we're using bug tags for such specific things now wouldn't it make > >> sense to add per architecture tags so one can search via > >> http://bugs.debian.org/tag:hppa > >> for hppa related issues (not that there ar

Re: new bug tags

2003-06-01 Thread Rene Engelhard
Hi, James Troup wrote: > I don't; it's silly. At best you'll get an architecture tag for the > arch that the buildd maintainer reported the bug on, but that's it. > An inaccurate architecture tag is worse than useless, it's misleading. > Just parse wanna-build's failed logs; it's trivial. Sure,

Re: new bug tags

2003-06-01 Thread James Troup
Rene Engelhard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Sure, but the architecture tags can be used n ot only for buildd > failures? No, that's my point, IMO they shouldn't be used _at all_ for FTBFS bugs, because they'd be useless and misleading - and if these tags are available people will try to use them

Re: [ANN] Quantian: A Knoppix remastering for Scientific Computing

2003-06-01 Thread Andreas Tille
On Wed, 28 May 2003, Dirk Eddelbuettel wrote: > [ If there is sufficient interest, this may morph into a Debian subproject. > Please contact me if you would want to be part of it. --edd ] > >Announcing the "Quantian Scientific Computing Environment" While I like any project which tries

Re: new bug tags

2003-06-01 Thread Mark Brown
On Sun, Jun 01, 2003 at 03:33:29PM +0100, James Troup wrote: > I don't; it's silly. At best you'll get an architecture tag for the > arch that the buildd maintainer reported the bug on, but that's it. > An inaccurate architecture tag is worse than useless, it's misleading. > Just parse wanna-buil

texmf.cnf again

2003-06-01 Thread Marcelo E. Magallon
Hi, I don't want to submit a bug since the last time this was discussed it degenerated into a flamewar and from the text I quote below it seems it's an emotionally overloaded issue for you. Installing tetex-bin brings up this: [!] Configuring Tetex-bin Now we can generate texmf.cnf,

Re: new bug tags

2003-06-01 Thread Javier Fernández-Sanguino Peña
On Sun, Jun 01, 2003 at 12:52:02AM +0200, Guido Guenther wrote: > On Sat, May 31, 2003 at 04:23:49PM +0100, Colin Watson wrote: > > The BTS now has "lfs" (large file support) and "ipv6" tags. > > http://bugs.debian.org/tag:lfs and http://bugs.debian.org/tag:ipv6 will > > search for matching bugs. >

Re: Asking for maintainer for astronomical packages and some important (and related) issues

2003-06-01 Thread Javier Fernández-Sanguino Peña
Sorry for the late answer.. you will see in a minute why I took some more time to answer on this. > > 1.- Copyright issues, these impact on quite a number of > > astronomical-related packages. > > > > I made the decision of breaking the star catalogs into packages > > into non-free but others

Re: Bug#193497: marked as done (svtools: svsetup uses bashism "echo -e")

2003-06-01 Thread Marcelo E. Magallon
On Sun, Jun 01, 2003 at 02:59:40PM +0200, Rene Engelhard wrote: > >* New upstream version (Closes: #193497) > > Meep. No. > > Write proper changelogs and(or close bugs the right way[tm]. That > form is only acceptable for "New upstream version, please package it" > like bugs. With

Re: [ANN] Quantian: A Knoppix remastering for Scientific Computing

2003-06-01 Thread Dirk Eddelbuettel
qOn Sun, Jun 01, 2003 at 05:29:05PM +0200, Andreas Tille wrote: > On Wed, 28 May 2003, Dirk Eddelbuettel wrote: > > > [ If there is sufficient interest, this may morph into a Debian subproject. > > Please contact me if you would want to be part of it. --edd ] > > > > Announcing the "Quanti

Re: new bug tags

2003-06-01 Thread Andre Luis Lopes
On Sun, Jun 01, 2003 at 12:05:42PM +0200, Javier Fernández-Sanguino Peña wrote: > > I thinks that the long-asked by i18n maintainers 'translation' tag should > probably be added too. It helps boths translators and maintainers since it > introduces a way to manage i18n/l10n related bugs (which ar

Re: Changelog issues with (among others) tkdiff 1:3.08-4

2003-06-01 Thread Brian Nelson
Herbert Xu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Brian Nelson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >> Issues that lintian reports are, in most cases, bugs. Bugs that you >> have fixed should be explicitly described in the changelog. After all, >> lintian reports many different types of bugs; how can we guess

Re: Bug#193497: marked as done (svtools: svsetup uses bashism "echo -e")

2003-06-01 Thread Sam Hocevar
On Sun, Jun 01, 2003, Marcelo E. Magallon wrote: > Is this a new sport in #d-d or something like that? I read that entry > as "the new upstream version fixes the problem reported in #193497", > and looking at the BTS that is exactly its meaning. The point being made is that "#193497 has be

Re: Bug#193497: marked as done (svtools: svsetup uses bashism "echo -e")

2003-06-01 Thread Rene Engelhard
Hi, Marcelo E. Magallon wrote: > On Sun, Jun 01, 2003 at 02:59:40PM +0200, Rene Engelhard wrote: > > > >* New upstream version (Closes: #193497) > > > > Meep. No. > > > > Write proper changelogs and(or close bugs the right way[tm]. That > > form is only acceptable for "New upstream v

Re: Bug#193497: marked as done (svtools: svsetup uses bashism "echo -e")

2003-06-01 Thread Brian Nelson
"Marcelo E. Magallon" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On Sun, Jun 01, 2003 at 02:59:40PM +0200, Rene Engelhard wrote: > > > >* New upstream version (Closes: #193497) > > > > Meep. No. > > > > Write proper changelogs and(or close bugs the right way[tm]. That > > form is only acceptable f

Re: Debian menu system update

2003-06-01 Thread Colin Walters
On Sun, 2003-06-01 at 10:10, Bernhard R. Link wrote: > * Colin Walters <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [030530 19:45]: > > What do you mean "consistent concept overall"? Using the freedesktop > > standards makes things more consistent, not less. > > Then please point to a documentation, how to overwrite the

Re: new bug tags

2003-06-01 Thread Guido Guenther
On Sun, Jun 01, 2003 at 03:33:29PM +0100, James Troup wrote: > >> Since we're using bug tags for such specific things now wouldn't it make > >> sense to add per architecture tags so one can search via > >> http://bugs.debian.org/tag:hppa > >> for hppa related issues (not that there are any of cour

ATI Linux Driver Packages

2003-06-01 Thread Marko Jung
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi all! I build two packages converting the RPM provided by ATI for their RADEON video cards to a binary package with the XFree module, libGL and some tools and a source package for building a kernel module with make-kpkg. These packages are very simila

Re: Second experimental version of APT with DDTP Support

2003-06-01 Thread Otavio Salvador
Fabio Massimo Di Nitto <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Hi Otavio, Hello Fabio, > just for pure curiosity, when do you expect to have the full system > integrated within Debian? I think the code need some otimization and one missing feature to fallback language codes. After this, in IMHO, the syst

Re: Bug#114398: dbtcp RFP->ITP

2003-06-01 Thread Steve Langasek
On Sun, Jun 01, 2003 at 03:29:07PM +1000, Daniel Stone wrote: > retitle 114398 ITP: dbtcp -- A client for the MS Windows ODBC proxy server > thanks > [Please reply to me, Cc'ing the list, as per the M-F-T header]. > Hi all! > Just a quick note to say that I've packaged up dbtcp, and am thus takin

Re: Debian menu system update

2003-06-01 Thread Bernhard R. Link
* Colin Walters <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [030601 19:05]: > > Then please point to a documentation, how to overwrite the menus > > installed with the packages as admin or other things like this. > > Basically you would edit the system .menu file, say > /etc/menus/applications.menu. > > http://www.freed

Re: new bug tags

2003-06-01 Thread Wouter Verhelst
On Sun, Jun 01, 2003 at 06:47:29PM +0200, Guido Guenther wrote: > On Sun, Jun 01, 2003 at 03:33:29PM +0100, James Troup wrote: > > >> Since we're using bug tags for such specific things now wouldn't it make > > >> sense to add per architecture tags so one can search via > > >> http://bugs.debian.o

Re: Second experimental version of APT with DDTP Support

2003-06-01 Thread Fabio Massimo Di Nitto
On Sun, 1 Jun 2003, Otavio Salvador wrote: > Fabio Massimo Di Nitto <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > Hi Otavio, > > Hello Fabio, > > > just for pure curiosity, when do you expect to have the full system > > integrated within Debian? > > I think the code need some otimization and one missing featu

Re: Debian menu system update

2003-06-01 Thread Josef Spillner
On Sunday 01 June 2003 20:02, Bernhard R. Link wrote: > It is related. Heck, this specification even gives in the example the > Icon as .png-file. While using .xpm-only for menus is really > long-lasting standard, with no reason to stop this... One day, SVG icons might be used, so there has to be

Re: Bug#193497: marked as done (svtools: svsetup uses bashism "echo -e")

2003-06-01 Thread Andreas Barth
* Brian Nelson ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [030601 19:05]: > FWIW, my policy has become to only politely ask maintainers in private > to use more verbose "New upstream version" changelog entries in the > future, because it seems to be a religious issue for some. That's certainly the right policy. Cheers

Re: Bug#193497: marked as done (svtools: svsetup uses bashism "echo -e")

2003-06-01 Thread Andreas Barth
* Rene Engelhard ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [030601 18:50]: > Marcelo E. Magallon wrote: > > On Sun, Jun 01, 2003 at 02:59:40PM +0200, Rene Engelhard wrote: > > > > > >* New upstream version (Closes: #193497) > > > > > > Meep. No. > > > > > > Write proper changelogs and(or close bugs the right

Re: Debian menu system update

2003-06-01 Thread Bill Allombert
On Sat, May 31, 2003 at 06:54:46PM -0400, Colin Walters wrote: > On Sat, 2003-05-31 at 17:52, Bill Allombert wrote: > > > > http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel/2003/debian-devel-200305/msg02071.html > > > > Could you be so kind as to summarize thoses concerns ? > > The message above is fairly

Re: Debian menu system update

2003-06-01 Thread Colin Walters
On Sun, 2003-06-01 at 14:02, Bernhard R. Link wrote: > * Colin Walters <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [030601 19:05]: > > > Then please point to a documentation, how to overwrite the menus > > > installed with the packages as admin or other things like this. > > > > Basically you would edit the system .menu

Bug#195725: RFA: tkisem (graphical SPARC emulator) & binutils-sparc

2003-06-01 Thread Barak Pearlmutter
Package: wnpp Because I no longer use them myself I am looking for someone to take over the below packages. (The second, binutils-sparc, exists only to service the first and is a trivial modification of binutils-avr, so I list them together.) I'm not swizzling the Maintainer: field to QA because

Re: Bug#193497: marked as done (svtools: svsetup uses bashism "echo -e")

2003-06-01 Thread Herbert Xu
Brian Nelson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > "Marcelo E. Magallon" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > >> On Sun, Jun 01, 2003 at 02:59:40PM +0200, Rene Engelhard wrote: >> >> > >* New upstream version (Closes: #193497) > >> Is this a new sport in #d-d or something like that? I read that >> ent

Re: Bug#193497: marked as done (svtools: svsetup uses bashism "echo -e")

2003-06-01 Thread Matt Zimmerman
On Mon, Jun 02, 2003 at 07:39:38AM +1000, Herbert Xu wrote: > Brian Nelson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > "Marcelo E. Magallon" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > >> On Sun, Jun 01, 2003 at 02:59:40PM +0200, Rene Engelhard wrote: > >> > >> > >* New upstream version (Closes: #193497) > >

Re: Bug#193497: marked as done (svtools: svsetup uses bashism "echo -e")

2003-06-01 Thread Rene Engelhard
Hi, > However, it really might be better to put a longer statement into > changelog. _But_ it's certainly much worse to re-open a really closed > bug than to make a too short changelog entry. (BTW: You should really a wrongly closed... (whithout explanation what the fix was; the new upstream vers

Re: Bug#195490: ITP: raptor -- a vertical shoot'em-up similar to Raptor: Call of the Shadows

2003-06-01 Thread Sam Hocevar
On Sat, May 31, 2003, Neil McGovern wrote: > > Raptor is a clone of Raptor: Call of the Shadows, a classic shoot'em-up > > game. > > Calling the package Raptor, for a clone of Raptor: Call of the Shadows > could get confusing. True. I talked to upstream about it and he agreed to change the n

Celebrating Debian's 10th birthday?

2003-06-01 Thread Alexander Neumann
Hi, While digging around in the calendar-files at infodrom.org I suddenly realized that Debian will have it's 10th birthday at August, 16th (according to the calendar.infodrom.debian file at http://www.infodrom.org/projects/calendar/) Are there any parties planned already? ;) - Alexander pgpvx

Re: Debian menu system update

2003-06-01 Thread Chris Cheney
On Sun, Jun 01, 2003 at 08:59:58PM +0200, Josef Spillner wrote: > One day, SVG icons might be used, so there has to be some kind of flexibility. > It would be nice to work towards collaboration with freedesktop.org, probably > a fallback mechanism can be implemented. > I personally do not want to

Re: Bug#193497: marked as done (svtools: svsetup uses bashism "echo -e")

2003-06-01 Thread Steve Kowalik
At 7:57 am, Monday, June 2 2003, Herbert Xu mumbled: > So what? The *Debian* changelog is for Debian changes only. It's not there > for listing upstream changes, copyright information, or who your favourite > TV personality is. > And if this new upstream release deals with a bug filed in the BT

Re: Celebrating Debian's 10th birthday?

2003-06-01 Thread Kenshi Muto
Hi, At Mon, 2 Jun 2003 03:24:39 +0200, Alexander Neumann wrote: > Are there any parties planned already? ;) Debian JP Project, consists of Debian developers/users in Japan, are planning 'Debian 10th anniversary party' at Tokyo on Aug 15 midnight. We'll send a article about this party to DWN when

Re: Debian menu system update

2003-06-01 Thread Chris Cheney
On Sun, Jun 01, 2003 at 04:34:55PM +0200, Bernhard R. Link wrote: > * Chris Cheney <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [030530 20:50]: > > > I think making things consistent needs us to write them on our own, > > > taking upstream entries as suggestions. In my eyes it is just the same > > > as with the directories

Re: Debian menu system update

2003-06-01 Thread Russell Coker
On Mon, 2 Jun 2003 11:54, Chris Cheney wrote: > SVG icons are the only decent long term solution once screens go to > 200dpi+ those tiny icons will be worthless, of course you can always > double or triple the size of fixed size icons automatically but they > won't look very good. Microsoft is push

Re: ATI Linux Driver Packages

2003-06-01 Thread Chris Cheney
/me coughs ;)

Re: ATI Linux Driver Packages

2003-06-01 Thread Chris Cheney
Are these drivers much better then than XFree ones or is there a reason to be promoting nonfree drivers? I orginally packaged up the nvidia ones in the way they are done due to the fact the XFree ones had no 3d acceleration at all and that it was illegal to distribute nvidia's binaries directly. A

Re: Celebrating Debian's 10th birthday?

2003-06-01 Thread Jonathan Oxer
On Mon, 2003-06-02 at 12:14, Kenshi Muto wrote: > At Mon, 2 Jun 2003 03:24:39 +0200, > Alexander Neumann wrote: > > Are there any parties planned already? ;) > > Debian JP Project, consists of Debian developers/users in Japan, are > planning 'Debian 10th anniversary party' at Tokyo on Aug 15 midni

Re: Second experimental version of APT with DDTP Support

2003-06-01 Thread Otavio Salvador
Fabio Massimo Di Nitto <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >> Have you use this version for testing? > > To be hounest no i didn't test it since i personally don't like to use > other language than english on my computers. I was only curious about the > integration status since i like to see big projects

Re: Debian menu system update

2003-06-01 Thread Colin Walters
On Sun, 2003-06-01 at 15:58, Bill Allombert wrote: > I have already answered about i18n. If you're referring to extracting the i18n information from .desktop files; ok, that's a first step. But then we have an ugly situation where if someone wants to fix a Debian menu entry, they have to know t

Re: ATI Linux Driver Packages

2003-06-01 Thread Adam Majer
On Sun, Jun 01, 2003 at 09:42:10PM -0500, Chris Cheney wrote: > Are these drivers much better then than XFree ones or is there a reason > to be promoting nonfree drivers? I orginally packaged up the nvidia ones > in the way they are done due to the fact the XFree ones had no 3d > acceleration at al

Re: Debian menu system update

2003-06-01 Thread Josef Spillner
On Monday 02 June 2003 04:06, Russell Coker wrote: > However if an icon looks good at 100dpi then surely when doubled it should > look just as good at 200gpi. One thing to consider as well is that while in the past X11 was the only windowing system available, there are a few others out there now.

Re: Debian menu system update

2003-06-01 Thread Josef Spillner
On Monday 02 June 2003 04:22, Chris Cheney wrote: > This was done as a request by someone prior to my maintainence of KDE, > long ago KDE had its own separate Debian submenu as well. Many people > seem to think the way it is done currently is better than the separate > Debian sub-menu. Also, rippin