Re: Are we losing users to Gentoo?

2002-11-22 Thread Phillip Hofmeister
My best friend went to Gentoo and came back to Debian. That should say something -- Phil PGP/GPG Key: http://www.zionlth.org/~plhofmei/ wget -O - http://www.zionlth.org/~plhofmei/key.txt | gpg --import -- Excuse #52: Not approved by the FCC pgpT98lU2ygwI.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: Are we losing users to Gentoo?

2002-11-22 Thread Branden Robinson
On Fri, Nov 22, 2002 at 01:22:42PM -0500, Mako Hill wrote: > On Fri, Nov 22, 2002 at 10:28:05AM -0500, Branden Robinson wrote: > > Sorry, correction: total liquid assets. SPI "owns" some hardware in the > > U.S. on behalf of Debian (like the machine that is auric.debian.org), > > but an exhaustive

Re: Google sets, Linus Torvalds, Andrew Tanenbaum and Wichert Akkerman.

2002-11-22 Thread Arne Schwabe
"H. S. Teoh" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >> > > Damnit, only last? ;) >> > >> > Drop out one of the names, and click on Large Set. Bang, Wichert shows up >> > as #3 :-) >> > >> > >> Uhm, with all the names and clicking Large Set, you will find also Bill Gates >> in the list :) > [snip] > > Unsu

Re: Are we losing users to Gentoo?

2002-11-22 Thread Eduard Bloch
#include * Branden Robinson [Fri, Nov 22 2002, 10:34:21AM]: > On Fri, Nov 22, 2002 at 02:20:04AM -0800, Jim Lynch wrote: > > (1) Why are you blatently insulting people on the lists?? > > Why are you blatanly misspelling "blatant"? Best example for the difference between you and most other "top"

[Fwd: Re: bonobo-activation]

2002-11-22 Thread Sean Harshbarger
On Fri, 2002-11-22 at 12:56, Sven Luther wrote: > On Fri, Nov 22, 2002 at 10:00:29AM -0500, Jack Howarth wrote: > >Exactly how much longer are we going to leave bonobo-activation > > managled in sid? Certainly if there is no traction upstream on > > resolving this issue we should at least regre

Re: Are we losing users to Gentoo?

2002-11-22 Thread H. S. Teoh
On Fri, Nov 22, 2002 at 08:23:09PM +0100, Eduard Bloch wrote: > #include > * Branden Robinson [Fri, Nov 22 2002, 10:34:21AM]: > > On Fri, Nov 22, 2002 at 02:20:04AM -0800, Jim Lynch wrote: > > > (1) Why are you blatently insulting people on the lists?? > > > > Why are you blatanly misspelling "b

Re: Are we losing users to Gentoo?

2002-11-22 Thread Craig Dickson
Eduard Bloch wrote: > #include > * Branden Robinson [Fri, Nov 22 2002, 10:34:21AM]: > > On Fri, Nov 22, 2002 at 02:20:04AM -0800, Jim Lynch wrote: > > > (1) Why are you blatently insulting people on the lists?? > > > > Why are you blatanly misspelling "blatant"? > > Best example for the differ

Re: [mechanix@debian.org: Bug#169709: idesk: could use a better description]

2002-11-22 Thread Thorsten Sauter
On Thu, Nov 21, 2002 at 05:18:23PM -0500, Colin Walters wrote: > [...] many thinks for help. Bye Thorsten -- Thorsten Sauter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> (Is there life after /sbin/halt -p?) pgp9YxRugF89o.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: web browser bookmark defaults

2002-11-22 Thread Drew Scott Daniels
On Thu, 21 Nov 2002, John H. Robinson, IV wrote: > Richard Braakman wrote: > > > We're not _removing_ anything, we're providing an integrated system. > > in this cotext, it seems that upstream galeon _includes_ those > bookmarks (redhat, slackware, et al). to _remove_ those bookmarks is a > _remov

Re: Are we losing users to Gentoo?

2002-11-22 Thread Branden Robinson
On Fri, Nov 22, 2002 at 02:35:19PM -0500, H. S. Teoh wrote: > On Fri, Nov 22, 2002 at 08:23:09PM +0100, Eduard Bloch wrote: > > #include > > * Branden Robinson [Fri, Nov 22 2002, 10:34:21AM]: > > > On Fri, Nov 22, 2002 at 02:20:04AM -0800, Jim Lynch wrote: > > > > (1) Why are you blatently insulti

Re: Debian Accessibility Project was: Re: linux for blinds

2002-11-22 Thread Milan Zamazal
> "AT" == Andreas Tille <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: AT> To make it clear: I'm not in fear of a separate distribution. AT> Everybody is free to do so. But in my opinion you could reach AT> your goal more straightforeward if you do not. I'd like to clarify a confusion introduced by

Re: Are we losing users to Gentoo?

2002-11-22 Thread Matt Zimmerman
On Thu, Nov 21, 2002 at 12:15:12PM -0800, Thomas Bushnell, BSG wrote: > We'd need perhaps three different m68k varieties (two more than now), > one more Sparc, one more alpha, no more powerpc IIUC, no more arm, one > more mips, one more HPPA (or two?), no more ia64 or s390. So that's > nine more

Package migration into testing halted?

2002-11-22 Thread Camm Maguire
Greetings! Been waiting for over a week for 'valid candidate' package maxima to get into testing. Has this process been suspended? Take care, -- Camm Maguire[EMAIL PROTECTED] ==

Re: Handing over readseq

2002-11-22 Thread Russell Coker
On Fri, 22 Nov 2002 18:54, Michael Schmitz wrote: > > When I'm doing such package chang-over's it's generally just arranged > > through private mail and the rest of the world learns about it through > > the changelog. > > > > IMHO an arranged take-over like that requires no special announcements.

Re: Are we losing users to Gentoo?

2002-11-22 Thread Josip Rodin
On Fri, Nov 22, 2002 at 08:23:09PM +0100, Eduard Bloch wrote: > > > (1) Why are you blatently insulting people on the lists?? > > > > Why are you blatanly misspelling "blatant"? > > Best example for the difference between you and most other "top" > developers - stupid personal attacks when runni

Ye Olde optimization/mirror disk space debate

2002-11-22 Thread Matt Zimmerman
On Fri, Nov 22, 2002 at 10:03:40AM -0800, Thomas Bushnell, BSG wrote: > Roberto Suarez Soto <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > On Nov/21, Thomas Bushnell, BSG wrote: > > > > > Current cost of hard disk is something between $1.00 and $1.50 per > > > gigabyte. > > > > I may be wrong, but I ass

Re: Why are new package versions depending on libc6 in unstable?

2002-11-22 Thread Matt Zimmerman
On Thu, Nov 21, 2002 at 05:40:39PM -0800, Mike Fedyk wrote: > Nice, (btw, this is documented in man apt_preferences) but how do you know > there is a new version available in experemental from apt-cache? apt-cache policy -- - mdz

Re: Package migration into testing halted?

2002-11-22 Thread Colin Watson
On Fri, Nov 22, 2002 at 04:39:31PM -0500, Camm Maguire wrote: > Greetings! Been waiting for over a week for 'valid candidate' package > maxima to get into testing. Has this process been suspended? It depends on newer glibc on some architectures, so don't hold your breath. -- Colin Watson

Re: Ye Olde optimization/mirror disk space debate

2002-11-22 Thread Thomas Bushnell, BSG
Matt Zimmerman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Say I have 6 36GB disks which cost me $100 apiece (USD600 / 216GB USD2.78 > per gigabyte). Naturally, I put them in a RAID-5 array, for 180GB usable > space. Now we're at $3.33/GB, not counting filesystem overhead. This is a > realistic server config

Re: New maintainer process

2002-11-22 Thread Martin Michlmayr
* Andrew Pollock <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2002-11-22 21:52]: > Since satie.d.o has been destroyed, where does this leave the NM process? I tried adding all applicants again. I have probably missed some, but most should be there again. Your application can be reviewed at http://nm.debian.org/amstatus

Re: New maintainer process

2002-11-22 Thread Martin Michlmayr
* Teófilo Ruiz Suárez <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2002-11-22 15:06]: > I was in the "Waiting for AM" step, and I don't know what will happen > with me and the others in the same step, 20 last time I checked (the day > before the fire). > > Is anybody working on it? Those "waiting for AM" have been resto

Re: New maintainer process

2002-11-22 Thread Martin Michlmayr
* Oliver Kurth <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2002-11-22 16:48]: > I believe a web mirror would not help at all. There were php > scripts, and databases, and these _cannot_ (hopefully) be mirrored. A web mirror would be _very_ helpful. The PHP scripts were in CVS (still are ;) but the database is gone. We

Re: New maintainer process

2002-11-22 Thread Mateusz Papiernik
> http://nm.debian.org/amstatus.php?&user=me%40andrew.net.au Just like that's not working, it tells "You should not be here!!" :) But I entered nm.debian.org, and put my email adres in the editbox. Of course, my status is quite ok, but ... ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) Received application 2002-01-

Re: Ye Olde optimization/mirror disk space debate

2002-11-22 Thread Benoit Peccatte
On Fri, 2002-11-22 at 17:07, Thomas Bushnell, BSG wrote: > Matt Zimmerman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > Say I have 6 36GB disks which cost me $100 apiece (USD600 / 216GB USD2.78 > > per gigabyte). Naturally, I put them in a RAID-5 array, for 180GB usable > > space. Now we're at $3.33/GB, not

Re: New maintainer process

2002-11-22 Thread Mateusz Papiernik
> Tasks and skills has been checked (my package is rust), and there was > AM report for me too, so I'm only waiting for DAM approval. ... http://lists.debian.org/debian-newmaint/2002/debian-newmaint-200209/msg00021.htm l and there it is :) M.

Re: Ye Olde optimization/mirror disk space debate

2002-11-22 Thread Matt Zimmerman
Please respect my Mail-Followup-To: header. On Fri, Nov 22, 2002 at 02:07:26PM -0800, Thomas Bushnell, BSG wrote: > 36GB disks? Why buy 36GB disks when you can buy big ones? See, the > problem here is that things are in such frequent motion, that what seemed > like a big disk once is now small.

Re: New maintainer process

2002-11-22 Thread Martin Michlmayr
* Mateusz Papiernik <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2002-11-22 23:23]: > > http://nm.debian.org/amstatus.php?&user=me%40andrew.net.au Just like > that's not working, it tells "You should not be here!!" :) Sorry, http://nm.debian.org/nmstatus.php?email=me%40andrew.net.au > But I entered nm.debian.org, and

Re: New maintainer process

2002-11-22 Thread Oliver Kurth
On Fri, Nov 22, 2002 at 11:13:00PM +0100, Martin Michlmayr wrote: > * Andrew Pollock <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2002-11-22 21:52]: > > Since satie.d.o has been destroyed, where does this leave the NM process? > > I tried adding all applicants again. I have probably missed some, but > most should be the

Bug#170336: [RFP]: linux-wlan-ng -- Can't (re)build it for my own kernel

2002-11-22 Thread Xavier MAILLARD
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist * Package name: linux-wlan-ng Version : Upstream Author : Name <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> * URL : http://www.some.org/ * License : (GPL, LGPL, BSD, MIT/X, etc.) Description : Can't (re)build it for my own kernel , | Hi, atte

Re: broken dependencies gphoto2

2002-11-22 Thread christophe barbe
On Fri, Nov 22, 2002 at 08:05:43AM -0800, Craig Dickson wrote: > There is already a bug filed about this: #170292. The maintainer replies: > > "gphoto2 2.1.0 is not compatible with the new libexif in debian/sid. > gphoto2 2.1.1 will be out soon, the package is ready. > I will upload gphoto2 2.1.1

Re: Are we losing users to Gentoo?

2002-11-22 Thread Eduard Bloch
#include * Branden Robinson [Fri, Nov 22 2002, 03:50:08PM]: > > > > On Fri, Nov 22, 2002 at 02:20:04AM -0800, Jim Lynch wrote: > > > > > (1) Why are you blatently insulting people on the lists?? > > > > > > > > Why are you blatanly misspelling "blatant"? > > > > > > Ah

Re: Bug#170336: [RFP]: linux-wlan-ng -- Can't (re)build it for my own kernel

2002-11-22 Thread Colin Watson
reassign 170336 linux-wlan-ng retitle 170336 linux-wlan-ng: Can't (re)build it for my own kernel thanks On Sat, Nov 23, 2002 at 12:32:46AM +0100, Xavier MAILLARD wrote: > Package: wnpp > Severity: wishlist > > * Package name: linux-wlan-ng > Version : > Upstream Author : Name <[E

Re: Are we losing users to Gentoo?

2002-11-22 Thread Josip Rodin
On Sat, Nov 23, 2002 at 12:59:32AM +0100, Eduard Bloch wrote: > Making noise about spelling errors is extremely unpolite > (with few exceptions). > Please go away, learn something about tolerancy and come back when you can > discuss sanely. Interesting conflicting viewpoints. -- 2. That wh

Re: Are we losing users to Gentoo?

2002-11-22 Thread Adam Heath
On Sat, 23 Nov 2002, Eduard Bloch wrote: > Bullshit. Making noise about spelling errors is extremely unpolite > (with few exceptions). Making fun this way is a sign of personal > problems. Doing this again and again, even trying to make this look as > a harmles 'joke' shows the critical level. Ple

Re: Bug#170069: ITP: grunt -- Secure remote execution via UUCP or e-mail using GPG

2002-11-22 Thread Joey Hess
John Goerzen wrote: > Grunt doesn't preserve any notion of a session It doesn't need to: the unix filesystem already does. I said that was a contrived example, but I'm sure you will find some real ones eventually. Slightly less contrived: 1. notice that oops, the cd burning script will do someth

Re: Bug#170069: ITP: grunt -- Secure remote execution via UUCP or e-mail using GPG

2002-11-22 Thread Brian May
On Fri, Nov 22, 2002 at 12:43:28AM -0500, Joey Hess wrote: > This could me especially amusing if the first, delayed email was: > > cd /tmp > > And the second was: > > rm -rf * > > (Dumb contrived example, but you get the idea.) I think the lesson here is that grunt is not a transparent rep

Re: Bug#170069: ITP: grunt -- Secure remote execution via UUCP or e-mail using GPG

2002-11-22 Thread Brian May
On Fri, Nov 22, 2002 at 10:32:22AM +0100, Josselin Mouette wrote: > That's why I suggest using either a challenge/response authentification > (if the mail is lost, you have to ask for a new challenge and the > previous mail won't be accepted if it is delayed), or one-time passwords > (every time yo

Re: Bug#170069: ITP: grunt -- Secure remote execution via UUCP or e-mail using GPG

2002-11-22 Thread Adam Heath
On Sat, 23 Nov 2002, Brian May wrote: > On Fri, Nov 22, 2002 at 12:43:28AM -0500, Joey Hess wrote: > > This could me especially amusing if the first, delayed email was: > > > > cd /tmp > > > > And the second was: > > > > rm -rf * > > > > (Dumb contrived example, but you get the idea.) > > I th

Re: Bug#170069: ITP: grunt -- Secure remote execution via UUCP or e-mail using GPG

2002-11-22 Thread Brian May
On Fri, Nov 22, 2002 at 09:47:48AM -0600, John Goerzen wrote: > On Fri, Nov 22, 2002 at 12:24:34AM -0500, Joey Hess wrote: > > > After verifying the signature on the data, the receiver does some sanity > > > checks. One of the checks is doing an md5sum over the entire file >

Re: Flame against non-free burning, time to think.

2002-11-22 Thread Peter S Galbraith
Nathanael Nerode <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > About 8 packages in non-free are in the process of being removed > entirely from both testing and unstable. After this happens, the > difference in the number of non-free packages between slink and sid > will be +1. That probably doesn't count the on

Re: Are we losing users to Gentoo?

2002-11-22 Thread Joshua Cummings
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 This is just a suggestion/idea, and if it's stupid, feel free to flame me. Why not develop some sort of apt-build based net install that allows the user to download source archives and optimize the packages to the architecture etc. specified in the

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