Re: Debian Conference 2 Registration

2002-04-07 Thread Steve Langasek
On Sun, Apr 07, 2002 at 03:03:14AM +0200, Jeroen Dekkers wrote: > On Sat, Apr 06, 2002 at 07:30:48PM -0500, Colin Walters wrote: > > On Sat, 2002-04-06 at 17:54, Jeroen Dekkers wrote: > > > The thing I want say is: Debian is about free software, IMHO we should > > > not have such a prominent spons

Re: New Packages (i18n version of APT)

2002-04-07 Thread Steve Langasek
On Sat, Apr 06, 2002 at 09:52:03PM -0700, Jason Gunthorpe wrote: > > I REALLY REALLY would like to see translated apt in woody. > > And i cannot understand why apt-i18n is not installed so we could > > test it. Adding apt-i18n to unstable will not break anything, but > > interested developers can

Re: perl getpwnam returns x

2002-04-07 Thread Martin Schulze
Kirk Ismay wrote: > I have just copied one of my perl programs from an old slink system to a > new machine running potato. Its a perl program for managing users and such. > > On slink, getpwnam(foo) returns the hash for the password, on potato i get > an x. > Both are using shadow passwords. >

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Re: Bug#141561: gnu-standards: Non-free software in main

2002-04-07 Thread Ben Pfaff
Joseph Carter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Package: gnu-standards > Version: 2002.01.12-1 > Severity: serious > Justification: Policy 2.1.2 > > The GNU standards are licensed under two seperate licenses, neither one of > which meets the DFSG. > > The first is the GNU FDL, which blatantly violat

Re: problem with gvd

2002-04-07 Thread Jérôme Marant
"Carl B. Constantine" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > I've had the following problem while trying to do a dist-upgrade this > morning: ... > ideas on a fix? Please read the BTS. I've already sent a patch and the maintainer will upload soon. Cheers, -- Jérôme Marant <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

O: gnu-standards -- GNU coding standards

2002-04-07 Thread Ben Pfaff
Package: wnpp Severity: normal Orphaned because it's now considered non-free. Joseph Carter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Package: gnu-standards > Version: 2002.01.12-1 > Severity: serious > Justification: Policy 2.1.2 > > The GNU standards are licensed under two seperate licenses, neither one

Re: Bug#141561: gnu-standards: Non-free software in main

2002-04-07 Thread Joseph Carter
On Sat, Apr 06, 2002 at 11:57:53PM -0800, Ben Pfaff wrote: > > The GNU standards are licensed under two seperate licenses, neither one of > > which meets the DFSG. > > > > The first is the GNU FDL, which blatantly violates sections 5 and 6 of the > > DFSG. The second license allows only for verba

please rebuild gtkmathview 0.3.0-4 on hppa, m68k and arm

2002-04-07 Thread Stefano Zacchiroli
Package gtkmathview (version: 0.3.0-4) hasn't been rebuilt on hppa since Wed 13 March and on m68k since Wed 27 March, could someone please trigger the rebuilt of it on these archs? BTW, on arm the package has been successfull rebuilt on April 2 and April 6, but the package is still reported as out

Re: Bug#141561: gnu-standards: Non-free software in main

2002-04-07 Thread Ben Pfaff
Joseph Carter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On Sat, Apr 06, 2002 at 11:57:53PM -0800, Ben Pfaff wrote: > > > The GNU standards are licensed under two seperate licenses, neither one of > > > which meets the DFSG. > > > > > > The first is the GNU FDL, which blatantly violates sections 5 and 6 of th

gmetadom failure on HPPA never reported in update_excuses

2002-04-07 Thread Stefano Zacchiroli
I noticed that another package of mine, which is needed to build gtkmathview, wasn't successfully rebuilt on hppa, namely package "gmetadom". I'm wondering why the hell "gmetadom" isn't mention as out of data on hppa in update_excuses which reports only: * gmetadom (- to 0.0.3-5) +

Re: Rsyncable GZIP (was Re: Package metadata server)

2002-04-07 Thread Martijn van Oosterhout
On Sat, Apr 06, 2002 at 10:19:21AM -0500, Jeff Licquia wrote: > On Sat, 2002-04-06 at 03:13, Otto Wyss wrote: > > Please show use any figures first before you assert this. > > > > I know rsync imposes some load for the computing of the md5sum but > > sendind only the difference outweighs it repeat

Re: Debian Conference 2 Registration

2002-04-07 Thread Martin Schulze
Joe Drew wrote: > On Sat, 2002-04-06 at 15:09, Jeroen Dekkers wrote: > > > I don't *like* the registration page being hosted on IIS. But I prefer a > > > registration page to no registration page at all. > > > > Is it that difficult to make a registration page with free software? > > To the best

GNU FDL (was Re: Bug#141561: gnu-standards: Non-free software in main)

2002-04-07 Thread Aurelien Jarno
Le Dimanche 7 Avril 2002 09:57, Ben Pfaff a écrit : > Joseph Carter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > Package: gnu-standards > > Version: 2002.01.12-1 > > Severity: serious > > Justification: Policy 2.1.2 > > > > The GNU standards are licensed under two seperate licenses, neither > > one of which mee

Re: Debian Conference 2 Registration

2002-04-07 Thread Martin Schulze
Colin Walters wrote: > It's also probably worth pointing out, as you seem to see yourself as > "the Dutch RMS", that the Free Software Foundation also accepts > donations from proprietary software companies: > > http://www.gnu.org/thankgnus/2002supporters.html This is a bogus argument. The Debi

RE: gpg -e errors - All garbled output

2002-04-07 Thread David D.W. Downey
Hehe, meant to send an email earlier than this. Realised my mistake later on. -- David D.W. Downey ("pgpkeys") <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> libpam-pgsql Home Site: http://libpam-pgsql.codecastle.com Newbies: http://linuxnewbie.codecastle.com Admins: http://admin.codecastle.com Developers: http://devel.cod

Re: Release notes

2002-04-07 Thread Raphael Hertzog
Le Sat, Apr 06, 2002 at 04:58:18PM +0100, Rob Bradford écrivait: > With the release nearly upon us this is an *URGENT* request for > information regarding the woody release notes. The following issues need > addressing. > > Draft release notes are available at > http://www.debian.org/releases/wood

Re: Woody now more installable than potato

2002-04-07 Thread Josip Rodin
On Sat, Apr 06, 2002 at 09:58:51PM -0600, Manoj Srivastava wrote: > Josip> I checked had a stagnating number of subscribers than a few > Josip> months before, the traffic on the web pages continues to > Josip> slowly grow or stagnate in the new year, and the major > Josip> mirrors' traffic is a

Re: Debian Conference 2 Registration

2002-04-07 Thread Wilmer van der Gaast
Martin [EMAIL PROTECTED]@Sun, 7 Apr 2002 10:54:06 +0200: > You may not aware of the discussion we had last year, when VMware > offered to donate five (or another amount, not sure anymore) licenses > of their vmware product to Debian in order to help us develop > boot-floppies. > Just wonderin

Re: Release notes

2002-04-07 Thread Philip Hands
On Sun, 2002-04-07 at 11:51, Raphael Hertzog wrote: > You also speak of a DVD distribution, while it may be possible, I've > never heard of someone doing it officially ... better leave it out until > we actually provide some DVD images ? John Winters of linuxemporium.co.uk was asking me about this

Re: O: gnu-standards -- GNU coding standards

2002-04-07 Thread Federico Di Gregorio
Il dom, 2002-04-07 alle 10:01, Ben Pfaff ha scritto: > Package: wnpp > Severity: normal > > Orphaned because it's now considered non-free. > > Joseph Carter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > Package: gnu-standards > > Version: 2002.01.12-1 > > Severity: serious > > Justification: Policy 2.1.2 >

Re: Release notes

2002-04-07 Thread Steve McIntyre
On Sun, Apr 07, 2002 at 12:13:38PM +0100, Philip Hands wrote: >On Sun, 2002-04-07 at 11:51, Raphael Hertzog wrote: >> You also speak of a DVD distribution, while it may be possible, I've >> never heard of someone doing it officially ... better leave it out until >> we actually provide some DVD imag

Re: [2002-04-06] Release Status Update

2002-04-07 Thread Michael Meskes
Just some short questions. On Sat, Apr 06, 2002 at 10:24:34PM +1000, Anthony Towns wrote: > libqt3-psql I just came back from vacation and saw that the new qt3 uploads that fix the problem are still waiting in the queue. Would it be possible to get this package back into woody if I upload an

Re: The GNU Free Documentation License (GFDL) and /usr/share/common-licenses

2002-04-07 Thread Federico Di Gregorio
Il dom, 2002-04-07 alle 05:06, Joseph Carter ha scritto: > On Sat, Apr 06, 2002 at 05:57:43PM -0500, Dale Scheetz wrote: > > There are an ever growing number of packages that make use of the GNU Free > > Documentation License. Isn't it about time to put a copy of this license > > into the common re

mirrors [Re: Release notes]

2002-04-07 Thread Josip Rodin
On Sun, Apr 07, 2002 at 12:13:38PM +0100, Philip Hands wrote: > after the dust settles after the CD stampede Speaking of which, what's the tactic to get this done efficiently? I suppose we could coordinate with several mirror maintainers to have them rsync copies of the final images before the use

Re: Bug#141345: ITP: sextractor -- Builds a catalogue of objects from an astronomical image.

2002-04-07 Thread Wilmer van der Gaast
[EMAIL PROTECTED]@Sat, 6 Apr 2002 09:44:48 +0100 (BST): > sextractor stands for Source Extractor, it's usually referred to as > SExtractor but he went and named the binary 'sex' so jokes abound in > the astronomy community about 'doing sex', etc,.. > Hmm... Won't that conflict with this X edit

Re: mirrors [Re: Release notes]

2002-04-07 Thread Michael Banck
On Sun, Apr 07, 2002 at 01:38:59PM +0200, Josip Rodin wrote: > On Sun, Apr 07, 2002 at 12:13:38PM +0100, Philip Hands wrote: > > after the dust settles after the CD stampede > > Speaking of which, what's the tactic to get this done efficiently? I suppose > we could coordinate with several mirror m

Re: Debian Conference 2 Registration

2002-04-07 Thread Jeroen Dekkers
On Sun, Apr 07, 2002 at 04:12:16AM +0300, Richard Braakman wrote: > On Sun, Apr 07, 2002 at 03:03:14AM +0200, Jeroen Dekkers wrote: > > We should not advertise directly or indirectly non-free software. > > Er, we _host_ non-free software on our servers, and distribute it via > our mirror network.

Re: Apache2 Debian Packages

2002-04-07 Thread Josip Rodin
On Sat, Apr 06, 2002 at 11:24:22PM +0200, Michael Banck wrote: > > > Reasons enough to release woody+1 not too late. > > > > Speaking of which, woody+1 sounds like it's going to be a release similar to > > link -- no huge changes to cause a prolongued release time. > > So, the Debian Installer is

Re: Update excuses openh323gk (2.0b2-1 to 2.0b4-1) (mk68k)

2002-04-07 Thread Jose Carlos Garcia Sogo
El día 07 Apr 2002, Mark Purcell escribía: > > According to > http://buildd.debian.org/fetch.php?&pkg=openh323gk&ver=2.0b4-1&arch=m68k&stamp=1017326211&file=log&as=raw > > openh323gk-2.0.b4-1 was built for m68k on 28 Mar, however this package > doesn't seem to of been uploaded to the archives

Re: GNU FDL (was Re: Bug#141561: gnu-standards: Non-free software in main)

2002-04-07 Thread Jeroen Dekkers
On Sun, Apr 07, 2002 at 11:05:03AM +0200, Aurelien Jarno wrote: > Le Dimanche 7 Avril 2002 09:57, Ben Pfaff a ?crit : > > Joseph Carter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > Package: gnu-standards > > > Version: 2002.01.12-1 > > > Severity: serious > > > Justification: Policy 2.1.2 > > > > > > The GNU

Re: Debian Conference 2 Registration

2002-04-07 Thread Jamie Wilkinson
This one time, at band camp, Jeroen Dekkers wrote: >IMHO the non-free section should be removed. IMHO you should write less email and fix more bugs. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://spacepants.org/jaq.gpg Commander Taco wastes our time with these dumb polls but we keep r

Python module for debconf

2002-04-07 Thread Josselin Mouette
Being tired of the shell, and not knowing perl enough, I have written a little python module for debconf. I haven't tested it thouroughly, but it seems to work fine. Of course, I intend to use it, but if people are interested, it can be found at : http://www.ens-lyon.fr/~jmouette/debian/ It is "d

Webalizer & Analog log reading

2002-04-07 Thread Martin WHEELER
Anyone else experiencing the same problem as me, wrt apache's access log default ownership settings? When I first set up Apache, logrotate dutifully created new access logs with owner and group as specified in httpd.conf. The anacron / logrotate combo has recently taken to creating *new* access l

Re: [2002-04-06] Release Status Update

2002-04-07 Thread Colin Watson
On Sun, Apr 07, 2002 at 11:21:14AM +0200, Karsten Merker wrote: > On Sat, Apr 06, 2002 at 09:56:12PM -0600, Colin Watson wrote: > > The build on sparc is due to something else, don't have time to > > investigate that right now; mips doesn't seem to have even attempted the > > build. > > antlr buil

Re: Package metadata server

2002-04-07 Thread Sam Couter
Glenn McGrath <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > It could probably be done with HTTP, using cgi scripts (i dont know much > about this), that way standard clients can be used to retrieve pieces of > the Packages's file by putting the querry in the url. And then you get the solution which has been mentio

Re: ilisp debian package

2002-04-07 Thread Will Newton
On Saturday 06 Apr 2002 4:16 pm, Will Newton wrote: I have still not had any response to this. Can anyone tell me the correct procedure for getting these bugs closed? The changelog looks like this: ilisp (5.11.1-7) unstable; urgency=low * well 125744 was fixed, but I put the files in the old

Re: ilisp debian package

2002-04-07 Thread Martijn van Oosterhout
On Sun, Apr 07, 2002 at 02:26:30PM +0100, Will Newton wrote: > On Saturday 06 Apr 2002 4:16 pm, Will Newton wrote: > > I have still not had any response to this. Can anyone tell me the correct > procedure for getting these bugs closed? > > The changelog looks like this: > > ilisp (5.11.1-7) uns

Re: ilisp debian package

2002-04-07 Thread Josip Rodin
On Sun, Apr 07, 2002 at 02:26:30PM +0100, Will Newton wrote: > I have still not had any response to this. Can anyone tell me the correct > procedure for getting these bugs closed? Since you're not a maintainer, you shouldn't close them. However, you can tag them "fixed", by sending 'tag fixe

Re: ilisp debian package

2002-04-07 Thread Josip Rodin
On Sun, Apr 07, 2002 at 11:34:13PM +1000, Martijn van Oosterhout wrote: > Read up on the BTS docs, but the common ways are: > > Email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with body: "close 140049" No! Don't fucking do that! Geez, how many times does one have to repeat that. -- 2. That which causes joy or

Re: how-to push a package in testing ?

2002-04-07 Thread christophe barbé
Hi Anthony Towns, Would it be possible to remove the current gphoto2 package (final-1) from woody ? It is clearly broken until the new libusb enter woody and when libusb arrive a new gphoto2 will follow. I am afraid that gphoto2 will be broken in the official woody release if the release happens

iptables_1.2.6a-3_m68k missing

2002-04-07 Thread Laurence J. Lane
iptables 1.2.6a-3 is being held back because it's out of date on m68k. http://ftp-master.debian.org/testing/update_excuses.html.gz#iptables iptables_1.2.6a-3_m68k was built, according to the buildd log, but package does not appear to have been uploaded. Who can look into this problem? -- T

Re: ilisp debian package

2002-04-07 Thread Will Newton
On Sunday 07 Apr 2002 2:44 pm, Josip Rodin wrote: > Since you're not a maintainer, you shouldn't close them. However, you can > tag them "fixed", by sending 'tag fixed' commands to [EMAIL PROTECTED] OK, if Craig hasn't done it by the end of today I will do that. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email t

Re: gmetadom failure on HPPA never reported in update_excuses

2002-04-07 Thread Mark Brown
On Sun, Apr 07, 2002 at 10:24:40AM +0200, Stefano Zacchiroli wrote: > I'm wondering why the hell "gmetadom" isn't mention as out of data on > hppa in update_excuses which reports only: It's only out of date if it was previously built for an architecture. AFAICT from madison it has never been buil

Re: Update excuses openh323gk (2.0b2-1 to 2.0b4-1) (mk68k)

2002-04-07 Thread Thomas Hood
On 07 Apr 2002 Mark Purcell wrote: > According to > http://buildd.debian.org/fetch.php?&pkg=openh323gk&ver=2.0b4-1&arch=m68k&stamp=1017326211&file=log&as=raw > openh323gk-2.0.b4-1 was built for m68k on 28 Mar, however this > package doesn't seem to of been uploaded to the archives which > is why

Re: how-to push a package in testing ?

2002-04-07 Thread Julien BLACHE
christophe =?iso-8859-15?Q?barb=E9?= <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Hi *, > The sane problem is apparently solved and gphoto2 2.0final-3 is build on > arm. Not exactly. I uploaded another NMU, now sane-backends should build on SPARC (and hopefully HPPA but it's not critical). It will be installed to

Re: [2002-04-06] Release Status Update

2002-04-07 Thread Erich Schubert
> IIRC galeon is not moved to woody just because it depends on mozilla > which has an RC bug. Since mozilla is not removed but will be fixed > before the release (at least that's how I understood Anthony's mail) I > wonder if galeon then can make it back in. Or did you just removev > galeon 1.0.3 a

Re: ilisp debian package

2002-04-07 Thread David Starner
On Sun, Apr 07, 2002 at 03:04:43PM +0100, Will Newton wrote: > On Sunday 07 Apr 2002 2:44 pm, Josip Rodin wrote: > > > Since you're not a maintainer, you shouldn't close them. However, you can > > tag them "fixed", by sending 'tag fixed' commands to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > OK, if Craig hasn't

Re: Debian Conference 2 Registration

2002-04-07 Thread Joe Drew
On Sun, 2002-04-07 at 04:54, Martin Schulze wrote: > > To the best of my knowledge, no. But I didn't have time to learn how and > > do it, and Lindows.com decided that they wanted to pay one of their > > engineers to do it. It's quite simple: nobody else did it, so I took > > Lindows.com up on thei

Re: New Packages (i18n version of APT)

2002-04-07 Thread Michael Piefel
Am 6.04.02 um 21:52:03 schrieb Jason Gunthorpe: > Because it is a bad idea? As Steve pointed out, good or bad idea is not really a good reason for delaying packages, at least it has not been so far. Furthermore I don't think it is a bad idea, for the following reason: You, Jason, did not add ful

Re: Update excuses openh323gk (2.0b2-1 to 2.0b4-1) (mk68k)

2002-04-07 Thread Wouter Verhelst
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Sun, 7 Apr 2002, Jose Carlos Garcia Sogo wrote: > El día 07 Apr 2002, Mark Purcell escribía: > > > > According to > > http://buildd.debian.org/fetch.php?&pkg=openh323gk&ver=2.0b4-1&arch=m68k&stamp=1017326211&file=log&as=raw > > > > openh323gk-2

Re: problem with gvd

2002-04-07 Thread Carl B. Constantine
* J?r?me Marant ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > "Carl B. Constantine" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > I've had the following problem while trying to do a dist-upgrade this > > morning: > ... > > ideas on a fix? > > Please read the BTS. I've already sent a patch and the maintainer will > upload

Re: Python module for debconf

2002-04-07 Thread Jérôme Marant
Josselin Mouette <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Being tired of the shell, and not knowing perl enough, I have written a > little python module for debconf. > > I haven't tested it thouroughly, but it seems to work fine. Of course, I > intend to use it, but if people are interested, it can be found

Re: problem with gvd

2002-04-07 Thread Jérôme Marant
"Carl B. Constantine" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > I did read the BTS and saw the bug listed there which is why I didn't > report it again. At the time I didn't see any mention of a patch but I > may have overlooked something. Probably. There are patch tags and the bug is in the "pending uplo

Re: Python module for debconf

2002-04-07 Thread Joey Hess
Jérôme Marant wrote: > Josselin Mouette <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > Being tired of the shell, and not knowing perl enough, I have written a > > little python module for debconf. > > > > I haven't tested it thouroughly, but it seems to work fine. Of course, I > > intend to use it, but if people

Re: please rebuild gtkmathview 0.3.0-4 on hppa, m68k and arm

2002-04-07 Thread Philip Blundell
On Sun, 2002-04-07 at 09:08, Stefano Zacchiroli wrote: > BTW, on arm the package has been successfull rebuilt on April 2 and > April 6, but the package is still reported as out of date on arm in > update_excuses.html, anybody knows the reason? Dunno, just some or other random delay. It's showing

Re: Update excuses openh323gk (2.0b2-1 to 2.0b4-1) (mk68k)

2002-04-07 Thread Thomas Hood
I wrote: > Ditto powermgmt-base_1.3_m68k.deb : >http://buildd.debian.org/build.php?&pkg=powermgmt-base&ver=1.3&arch=m68k&file=log Wouter Verhelst wrote: > If you look very closely, you'll find that these both > have been built by 'arrakis', a box of which I am the > buildd admin. This was a result

Re: O: gnu-standards -- GNU coding standards

2002-04-07 Thread Joe Wreschnig
On Sun, 2002-04-07 at 06:14, Federico Di Gregorio wrote: > people, i just want to remember you that DFSG stands for debian free > SOFTWARE guidelines. documentation is *not* software Unfortunately this is becoming less true. CSS contains statements for content generation and counting variables. Is

Re: ilisp debian package

2002-04-07 Thread Will Newton
On Sunday 07 Apr 2002 3:20 pm, David Starner wrote: > Why? Considering how close to the release we are, and how easy it is, > why not do it now? It certainly won't interfer with the maintainer > closing them. OK, done. I just don't want to step on anyone's toes. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EM

Re: Python module for debconf

2002-04-07 Thread Josselin Mouette
Le dim 07/04/2002 à 17:54, Joey Hess a écrit : > What's worse, you can really only safley use essential and base packages > in debconf config scripts. You can of course depend on python and use > this python module in your postinst, after dependencies are met, but > depednencies (and even pre-depe

Re: gmetadom failure on HPPA never reported in update_excuses

2002-04-07 Thread Randolph Chung
In reference to a message from Stefano Zacchiroli, dated Apr 07: > I noticed that another package of mine, which is needed to build > gtkmathview, wasn't successfully rebuilt on hppa, namely package > "gmetadom". it needs some c++ work. For one thing it references internal libstdc++ symbols (__STL

Re: O: gnu-standards -- GNU coding standards

2002-04-07 Thread Joel Baker
On Sun, Apr 07, 2002 at 12:12:47PM -0500, Joe Wreschnig wrote: > On Sun, 2002-04-07 at 06:14, Federico Di Gregorio wrote: > > people, i just want to remember you that DFSG stands for debian free > > SOFTWARE guidelines. documentation is *not* software > > Unfortunately this is becoming less true.

Re: please rebuild gtkmathview 0.3.0-4 on hppa, m68k and arm

2002-04-07 Thread Rick Younie
Stefano Zacchiroli wrote: > Package gtkmathview (version: 0.3.0-4) hasn't been rebuilt on hppa since > Wed 13 March and on m68k since Wed 27 March, could someone please > trigger the rebuilt of it on these archs? On m68k it's waiting on gmetadom. It's easier to see what's going on at bruno.fmepn

g++-3.0 library support?

2002-04-07 Thread Leo \(Martin Oberzalek\)
Hello, it's not possible linking a C++ library compiled with g++-2.9x to a C++ application compiled with g++-3.0. We all no the reasons... My question is how I should handle this, on debian distributions that are based on gcc-2.9x? I have a C++ library. And I wan't to create debs for g++.2.9x a

Re: Rsyncable GZIP (was Re: Package metadata server)

2002-04-07 Thread Otto Wyss
> A large mirror in Australia does provide an rsync server to access debian > packages. When redhat 7.0 came out so many people tried to rsync it at the > same time, the machine promptly fell over. > What amazes me is that nobody is able or willing to provide any figures. So I guess no provider o

Re: Python module for debconf

2002-04-07 Thread Chris Lawrence
On Apr 07, Josselin Mouette wrote: > Isn't it a bit heavy to make debconf depend on python ? Why would debconf have to depend on python? You stick the module in and only bytecompile if python is installed. (This is the same silly attitude that has lead to a lot of unnecessary -elisp packages.)

Re: The GNU Free Documentation License (GFDL) and /usr/share/common-licenses

2002-04-07 Thread Dale Scheetz
On Sat, 6 Apr 2002, Manoj Srivastava wrote: > >>"Dale" == Dale Scheetz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > Dale> There are an ever growing number of packages that make use of > Dale> the GNU Free Documentation License. Isn't it about time to put > Dale> a copy of this license into the common refer

Re: Python module for debconf

2002-04-07 Thread Joey Hess
Josselin Mouette wrote: > > Aside from this problem, I wouldn't mind including the module in debconf > > after woody is released. It looks nice. > > Isn't it a bit heavy to make debconf depend on python ? Um, I can include a language binding in debconf w/o making it depend on that language. --

Re: The GNU Free Documentation License (GFDL) and /usr/share/common-licenses

2002-04-07 Thread Dale Scheetz
On Sat, 6 Apr 2002, Joseph Carter wrote: > On Sat, Apr 06, 2002 at 05:57:43PM -0500, Dale Scheetz wrote: > > There are an ever growing number of packages that make use of the GNU Free > > Documentation License. Isn't it about time to put a copy of this license > > into the common reference area? >

Re: iptables_1.2.6a-3_m68k missing

2002-04-07 Thread Matthias Klose
Laurence J. Lane writes: > iptables 1.2.6a-3 is being held back because it's out of date > on m68k. > >http://ftp-master.debian.org/testing/update_excuses.html.gz#iptables > > iptables_1.2.6a-3_m68k was built, according to the buildd log, > but package does not appear to have been uploaded. >

Re: Debian Conference 2 Registration

2002-04-07 Thread Martin Schulze
Wilmer van der Gaast wrote: > Martin [EMAIL PROTECTED]@Sun, 7 Apr 2002 10:54:06 +0200: > > You may not aware of the discussion we had last year, when VMware > > offered to donate five (or another amount, not sure anymore) licenses > > of their vmware product to Debian in order to help us develop

Re: ilisp debian package

2002-04-07 Thread Craig Brozefsky
Will Newton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On Sunday 07 Apr 2002 3:20 pm, David Starner wrote: > > > Why? Considering how close to the release we are, and how easy it is, > > why not do it now? It certainly won't interfer with the maintainer > > closing them. > > OK, done. I just don't want to st

The GNU FDL is a free license! (Was: Re: O: gnu-standards -- GNU coding standards)

2002-04-07 Thread Jeroen Dekkers
On Sun, Apr 07, 2002 at 12:12:47PM -0500, Joe Wreschnig wrote: > On Sun, 2002-04-07 at 06:14, Federico Di Gregorio wrote: > > people, i just want to remember you that DFSG stands for debian free > > SOFTWARE guidelines. documentation is *not* software > > Unfortunately this is becoming less true.

Re: g++-3.0 library support?

2002-04-07 Thread Matthias Klose
King "Leo (Martin Oberzalek)" writes: > Hello, > > it's not possible linking a C++ library compiled with g++-2.9x to a C++ > application compiled with g++-3.0. > > We all no the reasons... > > My question is how I should handle this, on debian distributions that > are based on gcc-2.9x? use onl

Re: Python module for debconf

2002-04-07 Thread Jérôme Marant
Joey Hess <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Josselin Mouette wrote: >> > Aside from this problem, I wouldn't mind including the module in debconf >> > after woody is released. It looks nice. >> >> Isn't it a bit heavy to make debconf depend on python ? > > Um, I can include a language binding in debc

Re: how-to push a package in testing ?

2002-04-07 Thread christophe barbé
Thank you for taking care of sane. Christophe On Sun, Apr 07, 2002 at 04:13:18PM +0200, Julien BLACHE wrote: > christophe =?iso-8859-15?Q?barb=E9?= <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Hi *, > > > The sane problem is apparently solved and gphoto2 2.0final-3 is build on > > arm. > > Not exactly. I up

Re: GNU FDL (was Re: Bug#141561: gnu-standards: Non-free software in main)

2002-04-07 Thread Martin Schulze
Aurelien Jarno wrote: > Le Dimanche 7 Avril 2002 09:57, Ben Pfaff a écrit : > > Joseph Carter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > Package: gnu-standards > > > Version: 2002.01.12-1 > > > Severity: serious > > > Justification: Policy 2.1.2 > > > > > > The GNU standards are licensed under two seperate

Re: Debian Conference 2 Registration

2002-04-07 Thread Martin Schulze
Joe Drew wrote: > On Sun, 2002-04-07 at 04:54, Martin Schulze wrote: > > > To the best of my knowledge, no. But I didn't have time to learn how and > > > do it, and Lindows.com decided that they wanted to pay one of their > > > engineers to do it. It's quite simple: nobody else did it, so I took >

Re: Python module for debconf

2002-04-07 Thread Josselin Mouette
Le dim 07/04/2002 à 20:50, Joey Hess a écrit : > > Isn't it a bit heavy to make debconf depend on python ? > > Um, I can include a language binding in debconf w/o making it depend on > that language. But that won't solve the problem ; if a package using the python module is preconfigured when th

Re: Update excuses openh323gk (2.0b2-1 to 2.0b4-1) (mk68k)

2002-04-07 Thread Wouter Verhelst
On 7 Apr 2002, Thomas Hood wrote: > I wrote: > > Ditto powermgmt-base_1.3_m68k.deb : > >http://buildd.debian.org/build.php?&pkg=powermgmt-base&ver=1.3&arch=m68k&file=log > > Wouter Verhelst wrote: > > If you look very closely, you'll find that these both > > have been built by 'arrakis', a box of

Re: Debian Conference 2 Registration

2002-04-07 Thread Joe Drew
On Sun, 2002-04-07 at 15:30, Martin Schulze wrote: > However, I still cannot find a request for help with setting up a > registration site/form on this list, neither including nor excluding > specs, searching from November 2001 until now. You were looking in the wrong spot. Check Message-Id: <[EMA

Re: g++-3.0 library support?

2002-04-07 Thread Sean 'Shaleh' Perry
> > So if I wanna link an programm with the gcc-3.0 version, -lfoo-gcc3 has > to be used and for gcc-2.9x, -lfoo. > > Are there any better ideas? > unfortunately not, the ABI is different between the two. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble?

Re: [2002-04-06] Release Status Update

2002-04-07 Thread Paul Slootman
On Sat 06 Apr 2002, Anthony Towns wrote: > > Over the past few weeks most of the following packages have been removed > from the upcoming release due to bugs and such [0]. [...] > dnrd logtrend-consolidation pptp-linux Could someone give a pointer where I can found out why pptp

Re: O: gnu-standards -- GNU coding standards

2002-04-07 Thread Federico Di Gregorio
Il dom, 2002-04-07 alle 19:12, Joe Wreschnig ha scritto: > On Sun, 2002-04-07 at 06:14, Federico Di Gregorio wrote: > > people, i just want to remember you that DFSG stands for debian free > > SOFTWARE guidelines. documentation is *not* software > > Unfortunately this is becoming less true. CSS co

Re: The GNU Free Documentation License (GFDL) and /usr/share/common-licenses

2002-04-07 Thread Manoj Srivastava
>>"Dale" == Dale Scheetz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Dale> On Sat, 6 Apr 2002, Manoj Srivastava wrote: >> >>"Dale" == Dale Scheetz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Dale> There are an ever growing number of packages that make use of Dale> the GNU Free Documentation License. Isn't it about time to p

Re: Woody now more installable than potato

2002-04-07 Thread Manoj Srivastava
>>"Josip" == Josip Rodin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Josip> You seem be able to blatantly maliciously misinterpret what I said. I was presenting the flip side of the coin, yes. Malice was not the intent. manoj -- "All over the place, from the popular culture to the propagand

Re: GNU FDL (was Re: Bug#141561: gnu-standards: Non-free software in main)

2002-04-07 Thread Federico Di Gregorio
Il dom, 2002-04-07 alle 21:34, Martin Schulze ha scritto: > Aurelien Jarno wrote: > > Le Dimanche 7 Avril 2002 09:57, Ben Pfaff a écrit : > > > Joseph Carter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > > Package: gnu-standards > > > > Version: 2002.01.12-1 > > > > Severity: serious > > > > Justification: Pol

Re: O: gnu-standards -- GNU coding standards

2002-04-07 Thread Steve Langasek
On Sun, Apr 07, 2002 at 11:56:59AM -0600, Joel Baker wrote: > On Sun, Apr 07, 2002 at 12:12:47PM -0500, Joe Wreschnig wrote: > > On Sun, 2002-04-07 at 06:14, Federico Di Gregorio wrote: > > > people, i just want to remember you that DFSG stands for debian free > > > SOFTWARE guidelines. documentati

Re: Update excuses openh323gk (2.0b2-1 to 2.0b4-1) (mk68k)

2002-04-07 Thread Thomas Hood
On Sun, 2002-04-07 at 16:08, Wouter Verhelst wrote: > On 7 Apr 2002, Thomas Hood wrote: > > powermgmt-base_1.3_m68k.deb was built on "kullervo". > > Is it fscked up to? > > Not sure. Roman Hodek is kullervo's buildd admin; you'll have to ask him > (or wait for his reaction ;-) Well, powermgmt-b

Re: The GNU FDL is a free license! (Was: Re: O: gnu-standards --GNU coding standards)

2002-04-07 Thread Joe Wreschnig
On Sun, 2002-04-07 at 14:29, Jeroen Dekkers wrote: > > Unfortunately this is becoming less true. CSS contains statements for > > content generation and counting variables. Is this a program? I'm not > > sure, but it's definitely not just a document anymore. XSLT can be > > included as "documentatio

Re: GNU FDL (was Re: Bug#141561: gnu-standards: Non-free software in main)

2002-04-07 Thread Jeroen Dekkers
On Sun, Apr 07, 2002 at 11:14:08PM +0200, Federico Di Gregorio wrote: > Il dom, 2002-04-07 alle 21:34, Martin Schulze ha scritto: > > Aurelien Jarno wrote: > > > The GNU FDL violates the DFSG ? > > > > I thought that it hasn't been finally resolved if the GNU FDL meets > > the DFSG or not. Howeve

Re: O: gnu-standards -- GNU coding standards

2002-04-07 Thread Joe Wreschnig
On Sun, 2002-04-07 at 16:08, Federico Di Gregorio wrote: > documentation != document. XSLT is cleary a program and s stylesheet > should go under a code license. but a manual about programming in XSLT > is definitely documentation and should be treated in a different way. What about inline stylesh

Re: Rsyncable GZIP (was Re: Package metadata server)

2002-04-07 Thread Robert Tiberius Johnson
On Sun, 2002-04-07 at 11:16, Otto Wyss wrote: > What amazes me is that nobody is able or willing to provide any figures. > So I guess no provider of an rsync server is interested in this subject > and therefore it can't be a big problem. Here are some experiments, and a mathematical analysis of d

Please see the GNU FDL discussion on debian-legal

2002-04-07 Thread Thomas Hood
For those interested in the status of the GNU Free Documentation License issue: Please read the interesting thread "The old DFSG-lemma again" on debian-legal from Nov. 2001. http://lists.debian.org/debian-legal/2001/debian-legal-200111/msg6.html In the thread, Branden Robinson expressed concer

Re: New Packages (i18n version of APT)

2002-04-07 Thread Jason Gunthorpe
On Sun, 7 Apr 2002, Michael Piefel wrote: > You, Jason, did not add full i18n support to APT, and were not willing > to accept my patches for woody. This is OK, as APT is a very central > package and has been in different shades of freeze for quite some time. Bzzt, I accepted the parts of your p

Re: O: gnu-standards -- GNU coding standards

2002-04-07 Thread Joel Baker
On Sun, Apr 07, 2002 at 04:34:36PM -0500, Steve Langasek wrote: > On Sun, Apr 07, 2002 at 11:56:59AM -0600, Joel Baker wrote: > > > The DFSG is an excellent place to start, but trying to apply it to things > > which *are not software* is silly, and results in the sort of sillyness > > which we're

Re: [2002-04-06] Release Status Update

2002-04-07 Thread Torsten Landschoff
On Sat, Apr 06, 2002 at 10:24:34PM +1000, Anthony Towns wrote: > * gs-common's license issues need to be resolved Just to keep people from wasting their time to fix this: My local gs-common edition has the following changes: * debian/control: Add dependency on gsfonts. Rationale: gs is

Re: The GNU FDL is a free license! (Was: Re: O: gnu-standards --GNU coding standards)

2002-04-07 Thread Federico Di Gregorio
Il lun, 2002-04-08 alle 00:15, Joe Wreschnig ha scritto: > On Sun, 2002-04-07 at 14:29, Jeroen Dekkers wrote: > > > Unfortunately this is becoming less true. CSS contains statements for > > > content generation and counting variables. Is this a program? I'm not > > > sure, but it's definitely not j

Re: Debian Conference 2 Registration

2002-04-07 Thread Richard Braakman
On Sun, Apr 07, 2002 at 01:53:07PM +0200, Jeroen Dekkers wrote: > IMHO the non-free section should be removed. Well, go for it. In the meantime, stop antagonizing people who do nice things for us. -- Richard Braakman "I sense a disturbance in the force" "As though millions of voices cried out,

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