On Mon, Apr 23, 2001 at 07:32:44AM -0400, Jaldhar H. Vyas wrote:
>
> Well, yeah. The problem is we can't change files from other
> packages-especially if they are confffiles.
However, is it all right to create script installed with the package which
does the deed. Rather than forcing the admin
I was wondering how possible it would be to considering adding to the policy
that a single runlevel's symlinks be left out of updating from packages.
After running an update of 200+ packages or so, all the rc?.d directories are
re-polluted with symlinks i've destroyed. This is a big problem on
On Mon, Apr 23, 2001 at 11:56:45PM -0700, Erik Hollensbe wrote:
> I was wondering how possible it would be to considering adding to the policy
> that a single runlevel's symlinks be left out of updating from packages.
>
> After running an update of 200+ packages or so, all the rc?.d directories
On Mon, Apr 23, 2001 at 11:09:18PM -0800, Ethan Benson wrote:
> if you leave at least one symlink in at least one runlevel, even if
> its a K link in runlevel 0 or 6 update-rc.d will refuse to add any new
> links. policy requires the use of update-rc.d so packages can't add
> any links so long as
On Mon, Apr 23, 2001 at 09:37:55PM +1000, Herbert Xu wrote:
> Andreas Metzler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > mean by "module builders [...] especially those outside Debian". The
> > people from alsa who do not use Debian (How would they use a
> > debian-package?) or debian-users who no debian-de
On Mon, Apr 23, 2001 at 06:59:55AM +0800, zhaoway wrote:
> > this actually *helps* new users.
>
> Why?
Because it teaches them to perform a task they should have to perform, at
the right time. At some point, you *have* to stop tying your children's
shoelaces, and teach them to do it for themselve
> if you leave at least one symlink in at least one runlevel, even if
> its a K link in runlevel 0 or 6 update-rc.d will refuse to add any new
> links. policy requires the use of update-rc.d so packages can't add
> any links so long as you leave at least one. if you find a package
> that does oth
Federico Di Gregorio <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said:
> but the only problematic gnome library, afaik, is libglade and i just
> recompiled it against libxml2 without changes. the fact that gnome 1.x
The fact that you can rebuild packages against libxml2 with no
or only trivial changes (e.g. replace "doc
On Mon, Apr 23, 2001 at 04:52:08PM -0700, Sean 'Shaleh' Perry wrote:
> So perhaps we need to come up with some more structure for the bug parties.
> Perhaps the right thing to do is have those involved create diffs of their
> work
> and place these in a repository for some group of devels respons
> > > this actually *helps* new users.
> >
> > Why?
>
> Because it teaches them to perform a task they should have to
> perform, at the right time. At some point, you *have* to stop tying
> your children's shoelaces, and teach them to do it for themselves.
You obviously didn't read my previous p
On Tue, Apr 24, 2001 at 02:11:32AM +0100, Colin Watson wrote:
> How ironic ... http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel-0104/msg00089.html
There does seem to be some hypocracy there...
How old does a bug have to be before it's fair game? The oldest bug
report for netmaze was 2 months old, although th
Daniel Stone <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Mon, Apr 23, 2001 at 09:37:55PM +1000, Herbert Xu wrote:
>>
>> I'm talking about people like VMWare, i.e., people who distribute binary
>> only modules.
> Call *me* a cretin, but wouldn't that be non-free?
> Binary-only modules should be slain. Plus,
On Tue, Apr 24, 2001 at 08:47:44AM +1000, Craig Sanders wrote:
>
> what is the DIFFERENCE between kernel-headers-2.4.2 and all the other
> 2.4.2 kernel headers packages?
Kernel-headers-2.4.2 is built with the default config file, and the
other ones are built with their respective config files.
>
Hi
Richard Braakman schrieb:
> In that case the right "repository" could be a bugreport to the package
> involved. That way the diff submission is guaranteed.
I agree with you that _something_ has to be done about
catastrophal NMUs, but just stopping to NMU and only submitting
diffs, even on pac
Jim Penny <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> These are:
> 1) how do I boot from a non-IDE root disk?
You don't need to do anything special unless mkinitrd doesn't recognise
your root device.
> 2) How do I control what goes into initrd in a more reasonable
> way than nothing/most/all. (and what does
On Tue, Apr 24, 2001 at 07:27:42PM +1000, Herbert Xu wrote:
> Daniel Stone <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > On Mon, Apr 23, 2001 at 09:37:55PM +1000, Herbert Xu wrote:
> >>
> >> I'm talking about people like VMWare, i.e., people who distribute binary
> >> only modules.
>
> > Call *me* a cretin, but
On Tue, Apr 24, 2001 at 07:47:48PM +1000, Daniel Stone wrote:
>
> They still suck, and they're still non-free.
Who said that we were going to distribute them?
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On Tue, Apr 24, 2001 at 07:30:47PM +1000, Herbert Xu wrote:
> On Tue, Apr 24, 2001 at 08:47:44AM +1000, Craig Sanders wrote:
> >
> > what is the DIFFERENCE between kernel-headers-2.4.2 and all the other
> > 2.4.2 kernel headers packages?
>
> Kernel-headers-2.4.2 is built with the default config f
On Tue, Apr 24, 2001 at 07:49:45PM +1000, Daniel Stone wrote:
>
> If you're including the entire headers in every package, this is an awful
> fallacy. Why not just do something like this:
> kernel-headers-2.4.3-common: all the 2.4.3 headers
> kernel-headers-2.4.3-piii: autoconf.h and modules/ for
On Tue, Apr 24, 2001 at 04:41:36PM +0800, zhaoway wrote:
> > Because it teaches them to perform a task they should have to
> > perform, at the right time. At some point, you *have* to stop tying
> > your children's shoelaces, and teach them to do it for themselves.
>
> You obviously didn't read my
On Tue, Apr 24, 2001 at 08:00:01PM +1000, Daniel Stone wrote:
> On Tue, Apr 24, 2001 at 07:49:48PM +1000, Herbert Xu wrote:
>
> > Who said that we were going to distribute them?
>
> If we don't distribute them, why in hell are we breaking mirrors by
> supporting them? Sounds dodgy to me.
So that
On Tue, Apr 24, 2001 at 07:50:34PM +1000, Herbert Xu wrote:
> On Tue, Apr 24, 2001 at 07:49:45PM +1000, Daniel Stone wrote:
> >
> > If you're including the entire headers in every package, this is an awful
> > fallacy. Why not just do something like this:
> > kernel-headers-2.4.3-common: all the 2
On Tue, Apr 24, 2001 at 07:49:48PM +1000, Herbert Xu wrote:
> On Tue, Apr 24, 2001 at 07:47:48PM +1000, Daniel Stone wrote:
> >
> > They still suck, and they're still non-free.
>
> Who said that we were going to distribute them?
If we don't distribute them, why in hell are we breaking mirrors by
On Tue, Apr 24, 2001 at 08:01:39PM +1000, Herbert Xu wrote:
> On Tue, Apr 24, 2001 at 08:00:01PM +1000, Daniel Stone wrote:
> > If we don't distribute them, why in hell are we breaking mirrors by
> > supporting them? Sounds dodgy to me.
>
> So that they can compile them? If you don't understand wh
Daniel Stone <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> The thing is, by including all these headers, you're helping break stuff for
> everyone. But you're also helping a small percentage of people who don't
FUD. Show me what's actually broken.
> ftp.au.d.o is currently missing several packages, as is
> mirr
On Tue, Apr 24, 2001 at 08:18:42PM +1000, Daniel Stone wrote:
>
> I can understand why you might say that that's a valid point, but IMHO, we
> shouldn't fuck up current users (by overloading mirrors), just so we can
> support LAZY users to compile something THAT IS NOT EVEN IN DEBIAN.
Do you actu
Yotam Rubin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> We could harden the default configuration with the following directives:
>
> options {
> version 'Not available';
That's not harden, that's obscurity and should be avoided in a free
distribution like Debian.
Admins can put this line themself if th
On Tue, Apr 24, 2001 at 08:21:28PM +1000, Herbert Xu wrote:
> On Tue, Apr 24, 2001 at 08:18:42PM +1000, Daniel Stone wrote:
> >
> > I can understand why you might say that that's a valid point, but IMHO, we
> > shouldn't fuck up current users (by overloading mirrors), just so we can
> > support LA
On Tue, Apr 24, 2001 at 08:20:43PM +1000, Herbert Xu wrote:
> Daniel Stone <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > The thing is, by including all these headers, you're helping break stuff for
> > everyone. But you're also helping a small percentage of people who don't
>
> FUD. Show me what's actually b
On Tue, Apr 24, 2001 at 11:32:42AM +0200, Arthur Korn wrote:
> Richard Braakman schrieb:
> > In that case the right "repository" could be a bugreport to the package
> > involved. That way the diff submission is guaranteed.
>
> I agree with you that _something_ has to be done about
> catastrophal
On Tue, Apr 24, 2001 at 11:07:20AM +0300 , Richard Braakman wrote:
> In that case the right "repository" could be a bugreport to the package
> involved. That way the diff submission is guaranteed. If the diff turns
though this doesn't catch broken build environment :(( like XF4.0.3 or
obsolete s
On Tue, Apr 24, 2001 at 08:45:11PM +1000, Daniel Stone wrote:
> On Tue, Apr 24, 2001 at 08:20:43PM +1000, Herbert Xu wrote:
> >
> > FUD. Show me what's actually broken.
>
> Mirrors. Slow. Out-of-sync.
It's still FUD until you produce the evidence that it's caused by the kernel
images.
> > Prov
On Tue, Apr 24, 2001 at 09:33:52PM +1000, Herbert Xu wrote:
> On Tue, Apr 24, 2001 at 08:45:11PM +1000, Daniel Stone wrote:
> > On Tue, Apr 24, 2001 at 08:20:43PM +1000, Herbert Xu wrote:
> > >
> > > FUD. Show me what's actually broken.
> >
> > Mirrors. Slow. Out-of-sync.
>
> It's still FUD unt
On Tue, Apr 24, 2001 at 10:02:54PM +1000, Daniel Stone wrote:
>
> > That's not what you were claiming though. You said:
> >
> > > The thing is, by including all these headers, you're helping break stuff
> > > for
> > > everyone. But you're also helping a small percentage of people who don't
>
On Tue, Apr 24, 2001 at 10:07:03PM +1000, Herbert Xu wrote:
> On Tue, Apr 24, 2001 at 10:02:54PM +1000, Daniel Stone wrote:
> >
> > > That's not what you were claiming though. You said:
> > >
> > > > The thing is, by including all these headers, you're helping break
> > > > stuff for
> > > > ev
Ethan Benson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>On Sun, Apr 22, 2001 at 09:00:13AM -0400, Itai Zukerman wrote:
>> you want. The postinst code would call the compression routines,
>> which might not do anything, depending on how the compressing package
>> was configured (i.e., it wouldn't call the compres
Does anyone know how to fix or work around this?
lists:/etc/apt# dpkg -i /var/cache/apt/archives/mysql-server_3.22.32-6_i386.deb
(Reading database ... 12496 files and directories currently installed.)
Preparing to replace mysql-server 3.22.32-4 (using
.../mysql-server_3.22.32-6_i3
86.deb) ...
Can
On Tue, Apr 24, 2001 at 10:14:12PM +1000, Daniel Stone wrote:
>
> Let me restate the facts. Again. Very slowly.
>
> ftp.au.debian.org was broken.
> mirror.aarnet.edu.au was broken.
> Both of the above had outdated packages, for their Packages file.
> The kernel packages take up 110meg.
> More meg
On Tue, Apr 24, 2001 at 10:20:33PM +1000, Herbert Xu wrote:
> On Tue, Apr 24, 2001 at 10:14:12PM +1000, Daniel Stone wrote:
> >
> > Let me restate the facts. Again. Very slowly.
> >
> > ftp.au.debian.org was broken.
> > mirror.aarnet.edu.au was broken.
> > Both of the above had outdated packages,
On Tue, Apr 24, 2001 at 10:27:18PM +1000, Daniel Stone wrote:
>
> No argument there, but this is where necessity and duplication comes into
> play. These documentation packages, don't have 14 copies of the same file
> now, do they?
Well, why don't you start writing a patch? And please submit the
On Tue, Apr 24, 2001 at 10:30:22PM +1000, Herbert Xu wrote:
> On Tue, Apr 24, 2001 at 10:27:18PM +1000, Daniel Stone wrote:
> >
> > No argument there, but this is where necessity and duplication comes into
> > play. These documentation packages, don't have 14 copies of the same file
> > now, do th
On Tue, Apr 24, 2001 at 10:34:24PM +1000, Daniel Stone wrote:
> Oddly enough, I now *start* to see his point. BTW, I have neither the time
> (p100 with 48meg? multiple kernel builds, each time you build the package,
> and that's bound to be a few, because of testing?) or the space (multiple
> ker
On Tue, Apr 24, 2001 at 10:39:14PM +1000, Herbert Xu wrote:
> On Tue, Apr 24, 2001 at 10:34:24PM +1000, Daniel Stone wrote:
>
> > Oddly enough, I now *start* to see his point. BTW, I have neither the time
> > (p100 with 48meg? multiple kernel builds, each time you build the package,
> > and that'
Craig Sanders wrote:
On Mon, Apr 23, 2001 at 05:32:45PM -0400, Matt Zimmerman wrote:
(the only times i want to do that is when paranoia makes me start up a
new navigator binary before connecting to my bank's https site, then
Exactly. Maybe the real solution is to replace Mozilla's PSM (POS) with a
On 23-Apr-01, 18:52 (CDT), Sean 'Shaleh' Perry <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> This would prevent the NMUers from doing things like debhelper/debconfizing
> packages without the maintainer's consent, as well as keep NMU bugs down.
NMUs should *never* change the build/install process to such an
exten
On Tue, 24 Apr 2001 13:14:36 +0100, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Colin Watson) wrote:
> >> you want. The postinst code would call the compression routines,
> >> which might not do anything, depending on how the compressing package
> >> was configured (i.e., it wouldn't call the compressing code directly,
>
I am installing some new servers and I want a list of the reason for each
package being installed (no software is to be installed without a good
reason).
For example I have a text file saying:
gcc:Software development
postfix:mail serving
lilo:booting
I then want to have a program go through thi
On Tue, Apr 24, 2001 at 01:14:36PM +0100, Colin Watson wrote:
> Ethan Benson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >On Sun, Apr 22, 2001 at 09:00:13AM -0400, Itai Zukerman wrote:
> >> you want. The postinst code would call the compression routines,
> >> which might not do anything, depending on how the com
On Tue, Apr 24, 2001 at 09:14:41AM -0400, Itai Zukerman wrote:
>
> It seems to me that each maintainer should make the decision of
> whether she wants UPX to apply to any of her binaries. And the
> easiest way to do that, IMO, is to have her add
>
> [ -x install-upx ] && install-upx /usr/bin/f
I'm just trying to turn up a development web server running woody, and I
couldn't help but notice that there are no installation candidates for
php4... Is this a known problem? both potato and sid have packages. Any
help appreciated.
Brian
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"You can't depend on your judgement whe
On Tue, Apr 24, 2001 at 09:34:01AM -0400 , B.C.J.O wrote:
> php4... Is this a known problem? both potato and sid have packages. Any
yes
Petr Cech
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On Tue, Apr 24, 2001 at 12:44:05PM +0200, Jean Charles Delepine wrote:
> Yotam Rubin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
> > We could harden the default configuration with the following directives:
> >
> > options {
> > version 'Not available';
>
> That's not harden, that's obscurity and should be
On Tue, 24 Apr 2001 05:30:18 -0800, Ethan Benson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > [ -x install-upx ] && install-upx /usr/bin/foo /usr/bin/bar
> >
> > to her postinst or
>
> fine
>
> > dh_upx
> >
> > to her rules.
>
> NO! this would absolutly suck. that leaves the admin in the position
> to
On Tue, Apr 24, 2001 at 02:11:32AM +0100, Colin Watson wrote:
> John Goerzen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >ARRGHH!!!
> >
> >It really ticks me off when someone:
> > 1. NMU's one of my packages for a *normal* bug without even thinking
> >of checking with me first,
> >and
> > 2. In so doing, mana
On Tue, Apr 24, 2001 at 02:06:27AM +0200, David Spreen wrote:
> Because I am not actually an official maintainer because my dam approvement
> is
> not finished yet,
There's no reason to curse about it.
--
G. Branden Robinson |
Debian GNU/Linux| Never attribute t
On Tue, Apr 24, 2001 at 07:30:47PM +1000, Herbert Xu wrote:
> On Tue, Apr 24, 2001 at 08:47:44AM +1000, Craig Sanders wrote:
> >
> > what is the DIFFERENCE between kernel-headers-2.4.2 and all the other
> > 2.4.2 kernel headers packages?
>
> Kernel-headers-2.4.2 is built with the default config f
On Sun, Apr 22, 2001 at 09:18:33AM -0500, Adam Heath wrote:
> [...good stuff deleted...]
>
> Now, it doesn't take a genius, to see how this will cascade.
>
> [...more good stuff deleted...]
>
> The best way to handle all this, is to train users how to compile a kernel,
> or, let them pick the
On Tue, Apr 24, 2001 at 03:19:08PM +0200, Russell Coker wrote:
> I am installing some new servers and I want a list of the reason for each
> package being installed (no software is to be installed without a good
> reason).
Interesting idea...
> I then want to have a program go through this file
At Mon, 23 Apr 2001 12:05:07 -0400,
Michael Stone wrote:
>
> On Tue, Apr 24, 2001 at 12:52:30AM +0900, Yasuhiro Take wrote:
> > The biggest problem about TrueType font configuration for X is the syntax
> > of .scale file. X provides two backends to handle TrueType fonts, xtt
> > backend
> > and f
Hamish Moffatt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> > I shouldn't have to add my name to the list of maintainers whose
> > packages should never be NMUd.
>
> IS there such a list? I don't think there should be.
Yes:
http://bugs.debian.net/
> The NMU was buggy, but with all due respect it appears tha
On Mon, Apr 23, 2001 at 04:15:58PM +0200, Nils Jeppe wrote:
> On Mon, 23 Apr 2001, Wouter de Vries wrote:
>
> > I am sorry, but I do not know... It only works for the latest versions
> > as far as I know.
>
> Well my problem is, the y and z are correct, but the @ is not, and the \
> is also at a
On Tue, Apr 24, 2001 at 09:29:33AM -0500, Branden Robinson wrote:
> Want more?
>
> http://bugs.debian.org/93443 and scroll to the bottom.
That's positively obnoxious. Bug severity control is up to the
developer. Although it does count as a dispute between Developers,
so you could forward it to th
On Tue, Apr 24, 2001 at 09:02:17AM -0400, Timothy H. Keitt wrote:
> Craig Sanders wrote:
>
> > On Mon, Apr 23, 2001 at 05:32:45PM -0400, Matt Zimmerman wrote:
> >
> > (the only times i want to do that is when paranoia makes me start up a new
> > navigator binary before connecting to my bank's ht
Matt Zimmerman wrote:
On Tue, Apr 24, 2001 at 09:02:17AM -0400, Timothy H. Keitt wrote:
Craig Sanders wrote:
On Mon, Apr 23, 2001 at 05:32:45PM -0400, Matt Zimmerman wrote:
(the only times i want to do that is when paranoia makes me start up a new
navigator binary before connecting to my bank's h
Hi there,
On Tue, Apr 24, 2001 at 09:31:12AM -0500, Branden Robinson wrote:
> On Tue, Apr 24, 2001 at 02:06:27AM +0200, David Spreen wrote:
> > Because I am not actually an official maintainer because my dam approvement
> > is
> > not finished yet,
>
> There's no reason to curse about it.
Would
On Tue, 24 Apr 2001, Richard Braakman wrote:
> Ironically, it won't prevent the problem that sparked this thread,
> namely a weird build environment on the machine where the NMU is
> compiled.
I would still love to see Source Only uploads becoming the standard
way of getting new versions into the
On Wed, Apr 25, 2001 at 12:36:17AM +1000, Craig Sanders wrote:
> On Sun, Apr 22, 2001 at 09:18:33AM -0500, Adam Heath wrote:
> > [...good stuff deleted...]
> >
> > Now, it doesn't take a genius, to see how this will cascade.
> >
> > [...more good stuff deleted...]
> >
> > The best way to handl
I have a resonably new motherboard with 128 meg of memory. My swap space
is 100 meg. I just got a slew of messages at the console like:
VM: do_try_to_free_pages failed for WindowMaker...
VM: do_try_to_free_pages failed for WindowMaker...
VM: do_try_to_free_pages failed for WindowMaker...
VM: do_tr
On Apr 24, Nicholas Lee <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Is there a generic system at all with in debian for say the following:
>
>generic file /etc/syslog/devices which is created by a syslog package,
>but other (chroot) packages can add their entries too in a specified
>manner though some interf
On Tue, 24 Apr 2001, Petr Cech wrote:
> On Tue, Apr 24, 2001 at 09:34:01AM -0400 , B.C.J.O wrote:
> > php4... Is this a known problem? both potato and sid have packages. Any
>
> yes
Uhm.. what's the story? =)
Brian
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is
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On 24-Apr-2001 B.C.J.O wrote:
> On Tue, 24 Apr 2001, Petr Cech wrote:
>
>> On Tue, Apr 24, 2001 at 09:34:01AM -0400 , B.C.J.O wrote:
>> > php4... Is this a known problem? both potato and sid have packages. Any
>>
>> yes
>
> Uhm.. what's the story?
Hi all,
what's the story with console packages in testing? I see
console-tools and console-utilities that conflict with each other,
console-common that replaces console-data... and there's nothing
in my /usr/share/keymaps so I can't check if loadkeys will fix
my problem (below).
The problem I'm h
On Tue, 24 Apr 2001, Richard Braakman wrote:
> Oh, I didn't mean _only_ sending the diff. It was an addendum
> to Shaleh's suggestion. The idea is to send the diff, then have
> someone else look at it, and then do the NMU.
You could just drop the NMUed package into some public space
(http://my.
Hi there,
> Because I am not actually an official maintainer because my dam approvement
> is
Btw. this was really 'dam' approvement, not damn approvement :)
There's no reason for me to curse, and I didn't want to, so let's forget
it.
so long...
David
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24.04.2001 pisze Dale Scheetz ([EMAIL PROTECTED]):
> I have a resonably new motherboard with 128 meg of memory. My swap space
> is 100 meg. I just got a slew of messages at the console like:
>
> VM: do_try_to_free_pages failed for WindowMaker...
> VM: do_try_to_free_pages failed for WindowMaker..
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Previously Dale Scheetz wrote:
> Anyone have any ideas?
1. figure out what uses insane amount of memory and apply kill and/or rm
2. buy more memory
3. upgrade to a 2.2.19 kernel
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On Tue, Apr 24, 2001 at 06:11:56PM +0200, David Spreen wrote:
> Hi there,
> > Because I am not actually an official maintainer because my dam approvement
> > is
> Btw. this was really 'dam' approvement, not damn approvement :)
>
> There's no reason for me to curse, and I didn't want to, so let's
On Tue, 24 Apr 2001, Wichert Akkerman wrote:
> Previously Dale Scheetz wrote:
> > Anyone have any ideas?
>
> 1. figure out what uses insane amount of memory and apply kill and/or rm
So, this is a common response from a system that has exhaused both swap
and real memory? Any good candidates in a
Previously Dale Scheetz wrote:
> So, this is a common response from a system that has exhaused both swap
> and real memory? Any good candidates in a "standard" system? I don't do
> anything now that I haven't done for years, so it's probably one of those
> new "features" of Debian, right? ;-)
With
On Tue, Apr 24, 2001 at 01:31:05PM +0300, Richard Braakman wrote:
>
> Ironically, it won't prevent the problem that sparked this thread,
> namely a weird build environment on the machine where the NMU is
> compiled.
thanks to debootstrap, we no longer have any reason to not have a clean
build env
I have just added support to debbugs in cvs, and on master, so that the
maintainer address for a package can be overriden. This allows the real
maintainer to be someone different than the person or list that gets the bugs.
This is useful, when the real maintainer is doing the upload, and dinstall
[I'm responding to Herbert directly to draw attention to this question
and make sure I get a response from him. I have also read the rest of
this thread even though I am responding to a fairly early message. ]
I'm approaching this as the maintainer of the openafs package, which
has a kernel mod
On Tue, 24 Apr 2001, Dale Scheetz wrote:
>
> I have a resonably new motherboard with 128 meg of memory. My swap space
> is 100 meg. I just got a slew of messages at the console like:
>
> VM: do_try_to_free_pages failed for WindowMaker...
> VM: do_try_to_free_pages failed for WindowMaker...
> VM:
* Dale Scheetz
| I couldn't get top to run while the "event" was occuring, and afterwards
| everything looked ok ... hmmm, I do seem to have a problem here. Mem:
| reports 64K with about 62K in use. So how come the whole 128 meg is not
| being recognized? (it shows up on the memory test at boot)
> On Mon, 23 Apr 2001 21:42:28 +0200, Davide Puricelli <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> said:
Davide> On Mon, Apr 23, 2001 at 09:37:33PM +0200, Adrian Bunk wrote:
>> On Mon, 23 Apr 2001, Federico Di Gregorio wrote:
>>
>> > libglade and some other packages still depend on the very old
>> > libxm
Hi,
I volunteered to adopt iswedish/wswedish some time ago. I downloaded
the source, which is swedish_1.3.-2.tar.gz and a .dsc file. This is
clearly some mistake, neither a native package nor a .orig.tar.gz.
When looking at where the source is from, sslug.imm.dtu.dk, the latest
version is iswedi
On Tue, Apr 24, 2001 at 07:27:42PM +1000, Herbert Xu wrote:
> In any case, binary modules are a fact of life I'm afraid.
Bull. We are Debian, not fucking RedHat or Mandrake. We strive to
exist without non-free software and using its existance as an excuse
to make your packages far worse is a compl
On Tue, Apr 24, 2001 at 08:01:39PM +1000, Herbert Xu wrote:
> So that they can compile them? If you don't understand why we should do
> that, then there's no point in us two arguing about it.
If they're binary-only, I doubt much compilation will be necessary.
On Wed, Apr 25, 2001 at 12:33:25AM +1000, Craig Sanders wrote:
> On Tue, Apr 24, 2001 at 07:30:47PM +1000, Herbert Xu wrote:
> > On Tue, Apr 24, 2001 at 08:47:44AM +1000, Craig Sanders wrote:
> > > what is the DIFFERENCE between kernel-headers-2.4.2 and all the other
> > > 2.4.2 kernel headers pack
James Troup wrote:
[serious bug: postgresql depends on libssl0.9.6 from non-us/main]
>"Oliver Elphick" writes:
>> Hmm, yes. So postgresql had better move to non-us.
>
>While not necessarily a bad thing, it's worth noting that that is
>going to drag a lot of stuff with it. Would it be
Mikael Hedin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Anyone knows where the 1.3 source comes from? The content is totally
I think it originates from some ftp-server in .uk which had a lot of
different ispell dictionaries.
> different from the iswedish-1.x at sslug. Any advice on what to do?
Get the lat
Previously Peter Makholm wrote:
> I think it originates from some ftp-server in .uk which had a lot of
> different ispell dictionaries.
Probably ftp.ox.ac.uk then, that has a bunch of dictionaries.
Wichert.
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/ Generally unin
On Tue, 24 Apr 2001, Aaron Lehmann wrote:
> On Tue, Apr 24, 2001 at 07:27:42PM +1000, Herbert Xu wrote:
> > In any case, binary modules are a fact of life I'm afraid.
>
> Bull. We are Debian, not fucking RedHat or Mandrake. We strive to
> exist without non-free software and using its existance as
On Tue, Apr 24, 2001 at 07:30:47PM +1000, Herbert Xu wrote:
> On Tue, Apr 24, 2001 at 08:47:44AM +1000, Craig Sanders wrote:
> >
> > what is the DIFFERENCE between kernel-headers-2.4.2 and all the other
> > 2.4.2 kernel headers packages?
>
> Kernel-headers-2.4.2 is built with the default config f
[00:44:26 /tmp]$ dpkg -l doc-linux-text
dpkg: parse error, in file `/var/lib/dpkg/available' near line 69953 package
`ng-cjk':
EOF during value of field `MD5sum' (missing final newline)
[00:44:45 /tmp]$
Am I the only one who has it?
I have a
"apt-cache dumpavail > /var/lib/dpkg/availabl
Previously Shaul Karl wrote:
> [00:44:26 /tmp]$ dpkg -l doc-linux-text
> dpkg: parse error, in file `/var/lib/dpkg/available' near line 69953 package
> `ng-cjk':
> EOF during value of field `MD5sum' (missing final newline)
Show is that line and the few lines around it please.
Wichert.
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On 24 Apr 2001, zhaoway wrote:
> Your point is ridiculous. You think linux kernel compiling is
> something as fundmental as tying shoelaces. rotfl. sorry.
If tying shoelaces was so easy, then why do we have velco shoes?
On Wed, Apr 25, 2001 at 12:33:25AM +1000, Craig Sanders wrote:
> On Tue, Apr 24, 2001 at 07:30:47PM +1000, Herbert Xu wrote:
> >
> > Kernel-headers-2.4.2 is built with the default config file, and the
> > other ones are built with their respective config files.
>
> so, what's the difference betwe
On Tue, Apr 24, 2001 at 02:10:48PM -0700, Aaron Lehmann wrote:
> On Tue, Apr 24, 2001 at 08:01:39PM +1000, Herbert Xu wrote:
> > So that they can compile them? If you don't understand why we should do
> > that, then there's no point in us two arguing about it.
>
> If they're binary-only, I doubt m
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