Re: sgml-tools and super weirdness

1999-05-24 Thread Jason Gunthorpe
On Mon, 24 May 1999, Richard Braakman wrote: > With super, the slink version was a separate NMU for frozen, while that > version was already in unstable. So the changelogs are different, and > they are differnet compiles. That's all good and well, but we -MUST NOT- have different compiles with

Master.debian.org and Email

1999-05-24 Thread Jason Gunthorpe
Hi all! It seems that with our recent IP change on master.debian.org Novare has inherited an IP space that has previously been used to send spam. I would like it if everyone could check that these two IPs are not listed in any spam listing services: master.debian.org A 209.41.108.

Re: sgml-tools and super weirdness

1999-05-24 Thread Martin Schulze
Richard Braakman wrote: > With super, the slink version was a separate NMU for frozen, while that > version was already in unstable. So the changelogs are different, and > they are differnet compiles. ARGS. diff -Nur slink/usr/doc/super/changelog.Debian potato/usr/doc/super/changelog.Debian ---

Adoption of the FHS

1999-05-24 Thread Julian Gilbey
As nobody has yet argued against my policy proposal of adopting the FHS, it is likely to become policy quite soon. So we need to start actively thinking about how to go about managing the changeover, and which exceptions we will make. A quick think would indicate that the most likely difficulties

Pandora.debian.org

1999-05-24 Thread Jason Gunthorpe
Hi All! pandora.debian.org has successfully joined the 6bone! We are now running the latest unstable on pandora (and will be adding ipv6 enabled utilities) and have established a ipv6 in ipv4 tunnel to surf.net. I have created an ipv6.debian.org domain that contains pandora, non-us and nonus. (th

problems on rxvt-ml

1999-05-24 Thread Atsuhito Kohda
Hello, I am a member of Debian JP and use kterm which is a terminal emulator for X with multi-lingual support (for me, japanese support) and also krxvt of rxvt-ml but there are some problems on rxvt-ml in my potato system. I am not sure if these are bugs or intentional settings of the maintainer

Re: An 'ae' testimony

1999-05-24 Thread Manoj Srivastava
Hi, >>"David" == David Frey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

[RFD] epic4 - default script ?

1999-05-24 Thread Joseph Carter
[ PLEASE remove debian-devel-announce from replies ] Before I get into this and make some people really angry, let me say that if I do this, I do it only in Debian's epic4 package. This isn't going to affect you unless you use my .deb's unless someone else adopts this idea for their stuff. Okay?

Re: An 'ae' testimony

1999-05-24 Thread Joseph Carter
On Sun, May 23, 1999 at 11:44:58PM +1000, Hamish Moffatt wrote: > > > The reason it has this problem is because it uses its own special terminal > > > data files (/etc/joe/terminfo) instead of the standard ones. > > > > > > This, FYI, is why I sopped using joe. Not only is it buggy if used from a

Re: Intent to package GNU Philosophy web pages

1999-05-24 Thread Joseph Carter
I have the same objection to this I had to the anarchist thing: You're trying to package their website. I don't think we should be doing that. Granted I'd rather see this website packaged before one trying to tell me all about the good political and philosphical things resulting from anarchy, bu

Re: potato bash: segfault instead of beep

1999-05-24 Thread Joseph Carter
On Mon, May 24, 1999 at 12:52:08AM +0200, Johannes Beigel wrote: > I have a problem with bash (the newest version from potato, downloaded > and installed with apt-get): > Wenn I type at an empty prompt or when I press when > the completion is not unique the bash crashes with a segfault. > So I th

Re: Adoption of the FHS

1999-05-24 Thread Joseph Carter
On Mon, May 24, 1999 at 02:09:05AM +0100, Julian Gilbey wrote: > We may need some mass NMU's, but it would be nice if that could be > avoided. We shouldn't need those. The only thing I expect that would take mass NMUs is the /usr/doc and /usr/man things. Both should be possible to happen over ti

Request for package: swatch

1999-05-24 Thread Atsuhito Kohda
Hello, I am a member of Debian JP and have maintained swatch-2.2 for Debian JP but swatch-3.0b1 is released and become Perl-oriented application now. Unfortunately I have no knowledge about Perl so I can not even make swatch-3.0b1 and swatch is by no means Japanese application. So I wish some me

Re: An 'ae' testimony

1999-05-24 Thread Enrique Zanardi
On Sun, May 23, 1999 at 01:33:43AM -0700, Joey Hess wrote: > I really thing Tom's Root Boot or something similar is the way to go. Tom's > crams an amazing amount of stuff into one floppy, using tricks like > rewriting common unix utilities in awk so they take up less space. We have a lot of commo

Problems with setserial and pcmcia

1999-05-24 Thread Gordon Russell
I am getting some reports that the new setserial 2.15-3 interferes with pcmcia cardservices. It would appear that setserial runs first, and initialises the pcmcia card for serial use. This is fine unless the card is a combo modem/ethernet card, in which case the ethernet part of the card is not in

Re: Paying CD vendors for freebies

1999-05-24 Thread Joey Hess
Adrian Bridgett wrote: > How about having a donation box. Debian is a registered charity after all. > With a suggested donation of a couple of dollars? I appreciate that this > might be against the freebie policy, but would serve three purposes: > a) disuade people who just pick it up because it

Re: mass-installing Debian

1999-05-24 Thread Massimo Dal Zotto
> > Illo de' Illis wrote: > > > > On Wed, May 19, 1999 at 09:12:29AM -0700, Dean Carpenter wrote: > > > Now during installation, the exim preinst and postinst scripts would > > > source the install-response file, creating the variables with the > > > responses they need. At this point, it's just

Re: Homapages in list of maintainers

1999-05-24 Thread Taketoshi Sano
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> I, Taketoshi Sano <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Hi. Thank you for your replies. I got relief to know > this "long waiting queue" issue is rather common to all newcomers. My application has now been accepted :) It is rather more quick than that I have heard of. I a

Re: LinuxExpo report, Day 1

1999-05-24 Thread Kenneth Scharf
I see from the photo of the debian-map that there is a push pin in south florida. Who is the debian developer in my neck of the woods? (someone's gonna have to verify a pgp signature for me one of these days). === Amateur Radio, when all else fails! http://www.qsl.net/wa2mze Debian Gnu Linux,

subsrcibe

1999-05-24 Thread Tim.Lorenz

Re: An 'ae' testimony

1999-05-24 Thread Hamish Moffatt
On Sun, May 23, 1999 at 10:55:28PM -0700, Joseph Carter wrote: > All the more reason to use slang-based stuff right? ;> I don't know about that. I'll soon be working on some console-based software. I thought I'd go with slang since it is nice and modern, as opposed to ncurses. I read some of the

Re: Pandora.debian.org

1999-05-24 Thread Wichert Akkerman
Previously Jason Gunthorpe wrote: > pandora.debian.org has successfully joined the 6bone! I just took pandora temporarily off the 6bone, apparently the new kernel it was running had some problems which caused the network-driver to stop working. We'll try to get ipv6 working again as soon as possib

Re: Adoption of the FHS

1999-05-24 Thread Thomas Quinot
Le 1999-05-24, Julian Gilbey écrivait : > AFAIK, the /usr/info -> /usr/share/info is well under way, as is > /usr/lib/texmf -> /usr/share/texmf. sgml-tools has a longstanding bug on this problem (#35965), opened on Apr. 12th. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://web.fdn.fr/~tquinot/>

Re: Problems with setserial and pcmcia

1999-05-24 Thread Andreas Plesner Jacobsen
On Mon, May 24, 1999 at 09:38:38AM +0100, Gordon Russell wrote: > > I am getting some reports that the new setserial 2.15-3 interferes > with pcmcia cardservices. It would appear that setserial runs first, > and initialises the pcmcia card for serial use. This is fine unless the > card is a combo

Re: ITP: select-xface

1999-05-24 Thread Antti-Juhani Kaijanaho
On Mon, May 24, 1999 at 06:45:23AM +0900, Takuro KITAME wrote: > Description: Insert X-Face mail heaer with viewing and selecting a bitmap. > Insert X-Face Mail/News heaer with viewing and selecting a bitmap. You know, the extended description is not meant to be an almost exact copy of the short

Re: Time to rewrite dpkg

1999-05-24 Thread Goswin Brederlow
Marek Habersack <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > [1 ] > * Marcus Brinkmann said: > > On Thu, May 20, 1999 at 01:03:46AM +0200, Marek Habersack wrote: > > > > > 3. Most programmers would write code in C > > > > Yeah, uh. But that's the point isn't it? > No, that's the reality. > > > The current dp

Re: why one rescue & boot disk? (was Re: An 'ae' testimony)

1999-05-24 Thread Christian Leutloff
Mark Blunier <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > My latest recovey floppy is not a floppy at all, but a bootable CD, > that runs root the root fs in a ram disk, and then links back to the > CD which is a complete copy of a working debian image. This gives > me vi, emacs, X, copies of all the library fi

Re: Adoption of the FHS

1999-05-24 Thread Christian Leutloff
Julian Gilbey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > So it would be very good to hear from people: what problems are we > likely to face in the move, how can we do it without destroying 2500+ > packages, etc., etc. Why not integrating tests for the FHS compliance into lintian!? First they are warnings and

Re: Paying CD vendors for freebies

1999-05-24 Thread Chris Lawrence
On May 24, Joey Hess wrote: > (That money is still here with me. I've tried twice now to get > someone from SPI tell me where to mail it, with no luck. What's up > with the SPI treasurer?) I dunno (I know I saw something about finding a replacement on the SPI site or something). I sent a donation

Intent to Package: FSViewer

1999-05-24 Thread Will Lowe
FSViewer is a NeXT filesystem browser. It's available from someplace under http://www.csn.ul.ie/~clernong/ (I'd give an exact link but I don't seem to be able to connect to that host right now...) Will ---

Re: Intent to package GNU Philosophy web pages

1999-05-24 Thread Edward Betts
On Sun, 23 May, 1999, Joseph Carter wrote: > I have the same objection to this I had to the anarchist thing: You're > trying to package their website. I don't think we should be doing that. > > Granted I'd rather see this website packaged before one trying to tell me > all about the good politic

Re: mass-installing Debian

1999-05-24 Thread Goswin Brederlow
tony mancill <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > For the developers: > > On a related note, couldn't we have an environment variable set at > installation time, e.g. "NON_INTERACTIVE_DPKG=TRUE", and have the > maintainer scripts check this to see if they should ask questions or not? > If this variable

Re: mass-installing Debian

1999-05-24 Thread Goswin Brederlow
Adrian Bridgett <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On Wed, May 19, 1999 at 01:06:48PM -0400, tony mancill wrote: > [snip] > > On a related note, couldn't we have an environment variable set at > > installation time, e.g. "NON_INTERACTIVE_DPKG=TRUE", and have the > > maintainer scripts check this to see

Re: mass-installing Debian

1999-05-24 Thread Goswin Brederlow
Dean Carpenter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > I've been thinking a bit about the need for mass-installations. Having > done a few of them, it gets to be a tad tedious ... > > Currently, the preinst and postinst scripts ask the user questions, and > make changes according to the responses. Instea

Re: Time to rewrite dpkg

1999-05-24 Thread Goswin Brederlow
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > Go for it. Have fun. Document and read. There has been quite some > discussion > on this subject. > > My only comment is that apt will likely be on a boot disk near you real soon > so libc++ is there too. Great, I just love apt. > Make not of dpkg's short comings

Re: Suggestion: new "debian" archive section

1999-05-24 Thread Adrian Bridgett
On Sun, May 23, 1999 at 04:27:46PM +0100, Julian Gilbey wrote: [snip - new "debian" section for all debian related things] > Thoughts, anyone? Personally, I think it's a great idea, but I'd like to solve lots of problems in one go. If we have hierarchal keywords added to the project then we could

Re: mass-installing Debian

1999-05-24 Thread Goswin Brederlow
Jens Ritter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Dean Carpenter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > I've been thinking a bit about the need for mass-installations. Having > > done a few of them, it gets to be a tad tedious ... > > > > Currently, the preinst and postinst scripts ask the user questions, a

Re: potato bash: segfault instead of beep

1999-05-24 Thread Thomas Quinot
Le 1999-05-24, Johannes Beigel écrivait : > Wenn I type at an empty prompt or when I press when > the completion is not unique the bash crashes with a segfault. This may be the same as #35130. Upgrading libreadlineg2 to 2.1-13.3 should solve your problem. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://web

Re: Adoption of the FHS

1999-05-24 Thread Edward Betts
On Mon, 24 May, 1999, Julian Gilbey wrote: > As nobody has yet argued against my policy proposal of adopting the > FHS, it is likely to become policy quite soon. So we need to start > actively thinking about how to go about managing the changeover, and > which exceptions we will make. > > A quick

Re: better /etc/init.d/network

1999-05-24 Thread Amos Shapira
From: Massimo Dal Zotto <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: better /etc/init.d/network Date: Mon, 17 May 1999 22:42:09 +0200 (MEST) > > On Sun, May 16, 1999 at 10:15:48PM +0200, Massimo Dal Zotto wrote: > > > > > > Hi, > > > > > > The /etc/init.d/network script created by the debian installation is

Re: vmware

1999-05-24 Thread Goswin Brederlow
Sudhakar Chandrasekharan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Steve Lamb proclaimed: > > I've seriously considered forking over the $99 so I can convert > > my machine machine to a dual-boot system with Windows running > > inside Linux. I wouldn't want to run games on a VM so I would > > dual-boot for t

Re: logos ( Cervantes like) : the end

1999-05-24 Thread Andrea Fanfani
On Sun, May 23, 1999 at 10:28:36PM +, Thierry Laronde wrote: > AFAIK, my proposal for the logos based on Cervantes characters has been, > at best, ignored, at worst, rejected. The fact is that debians haven't > judged it at the level of the logos included in the final set. [...] imho they were

Re: Adoption of the FHS

1999-05-24 Thread Joseph Carter
On Mon, May 24, 1999 at 03:59:46PM +0200, Christian Leutloff wrote: > > So it would be very good to hear from people: what problems are we > > likely to face in the move, how can we do it without destroying 2500+ > > packages, etc., etc. > > Why not integrating tests for the FHS compliance into li

Re: Time to rewrite dpkg

1999-05-24 Thread Goswin Brederlow
Marek Habersack <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > [1 ] > * Aaron Van Couwenberghe said: > > > Notably, I'm going to be writing it in C++. This will add about 270k > > to the boot disks' root image, but as the floppy install methods are for the > > most part phasing out under the shadow of easier

NDN: Re: Paying CD vendors for freebies

1999-05-24 Thread Post Office
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Re: Time to rewrite dpkg

1999-05-24 Thread Goswin Brederlow
Joey Hess <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Goswin Brederlow wrote: > > I think its a bad idea to say "You want to access to dpkg, programm in > > XXX". All interaction should be via a call to dpkg itself. Also > > modules should be programs by itself and not linked. > > > > dpkg would then call "dp

Re: www.de.debian.org

1999-05-24 Thread Sven Rudolph
"Christian T. Steigies" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > www.de.debian seems to have changed a little recently? > > TCP connection to 'www.de.debian.org' failed: Broken pipe. Moved to a different machine. > In the morning I got a different startup page for this server. Is this a > temporary recon

spam

1999-05-24 Thread Leon Breedt
Is it just me, or am I getting a lot of spam now, that seems like it could be debian originating? Is it those IPs Adam Heath talked about? Leon -- Leon Breedt | Developer, Obsidian Systems Debian/GNU Linux| Because you want to get there...Today

Intent to upload: apcupsd

1999-05-24 Thread Leon Breedt
If no-one has any objections, I intend to upload apcupsd in the next few days. Leon -- Leon Breedt | Developer, Obsidian Systems Debian/GNU Linux| Because you want to get there...Today Debian Developer| [E

NDN: Re: Intent to package GNU Philosophy web pages

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NDN: Re: mass-installing Debian

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NDN: Re: mass-installing Debian

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ITP: madoka

1999-05-24 Thread Takuro KITAME
I'm working package "madoka" http://www.madoka.org/ (Japanese) Licens: GPL Package: madoka Version: 4.1.11-1 Section: net Architecture: all Depends: perl Description: IRC personal proxy, stationing, logger and bot program (pirc). madoka can work as IRC personal proxy server, stationing on the

Re: Intent to package GNU Philosophy web pages

1999-05-24 Thread Steve Greenland
On 24-May-99, 12:59 (CDT), Edward Betts <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Why does Debian only accept free software? What is so good about free > software? It is all explained in this package. There are other reasons that free software is good (e.g. the ESR utilitarian arguments). Some Debianers might

NDN: Re: Time to rewrite dpkg

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NDN: Re: mass-installing Debian

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NDN: Re: mass-installing Debian

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Re: Intent to package GNU Philosophy web pages

1999-05-24 Thread Marcus Brinkmann
On Mon, May 24, 1999 at 06:59:47PM +0100, Edward Betts wrote: > Why does Debian only accept free software? What is so good about free > software? It is all explained in this package. Indeed. > If your objection remains, I will not upload the package. Why? Marcus -- `Rhubarb is no Egyptian g

Re: mass-installing Debian

1999-05-24 Thread Illo de' Illis
On Mon, May 24, 1999 at 12:24:33PM +0200, Massimo Dal Zotto wrote: > I'm working on an automatic installation tool. It as almost working. > I will post more information in the following days. The basic idea > is to record automatically all the answers given during the first > installation and retri

NDN: Re: better /etc/init.d/network

1999-05-24 Thread Post Office
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NDN: Re: vmware

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Re: Adoption of the FHS

1999-05-24 Thread Josip Rodin
On Mon, May 24, 1999 at 12:53:51PM +0100, Edward Betts wrote: > Can I upload packages with the /usr/info -> /usr/share/info modification? Yes you may :) GNU info has been set to read its files from that directory since long time ago, IIRC before hamm. > Can I upload packages with the /usr/man ->

RE: why one rescue & boot disk? (was Re: An 'ae' testimony)

1999-05-24 Thread Dean . Carpenter
-Original Message- From: Christian Leutloff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, May 24, 1999 11:42 AM To: Mark Blunier Cc: debian-devel@lists.debian.org; debian-boot@lists.debian.org Subject: Re: why one rescue & boot disk? (was Re: An 'ae' testimony) Mark Blunier <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> w

NDN: Re: Adoption of the FHS

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NDN: Re: logos ( Cervantes like) : the end

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