Re: Linuxconf

1998-10-15 Thread Philip Hands
"matthew.r.pavlovich.1" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > what is the current status of linuxconf and debian? I made a package up, which is currently in experimental because it breaks booting, and doesn't understand includes in /etc/named, among other things. If people would like to have a look at it

Re: Removing Packages in Slink for Debian 2.1

1998-10-15 Thread Marcus Brinkmann
Hello, On Wed, Oct 14, 1998 at 12:19:30PM -0400, Brian White wrote: > strace26065 strace confused about sigaction flags [51] (Wichert > Akkerman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>) Hmm. Why is this bug important anyway? I've looked at the bug report and found no explanation. I think strace is t

Re: Bug#27823: proftpd: non-maintainer upload (alpha) diffs

1998-10-15 Thread James Troup
Joey Hess <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > James Troup wrote: > > They don't compile from freshly unpacked source. > > How odd. Other maintainer must work substantially differently than I, then. If you're building foobar 1.1-3, do you really recompile from a freshly unpacked foobar_1.1-3.dsc? > >

Re: Intend to package, create OSS/Free

1998-10-15 Thread Hamish Moffatt
On Wed, Oct 14, 1998 at 05:09:54PM -0500, Manoj Srivastava wrote: > Hi, > >>"Hamish" == Hamish Moffatt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > >> /usr/src/modules//, and runs ./debian/rules . > >> Additionally, the following information is provided in the > >> environment: > >> a) KVERS Contains

Re: Bug#27753: libpgjava: depends on jdk1.1-runtime, which is now included in jdk1.1

1998-10-15 Thread Hamish Moffatt
On Mon, Oct 12, 1998 at 02:22:53PM -0700, Stephen Zander wrote: > > "Hamish" == Hamish Moffatt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Hamish> Why doesn't jdk1.1 provide java-virtual-machine? That's an > Hamish> officially listed virtual package and would have avoided > Hamish> this problem,

Re: Removing Packages in Slink for Debian 2.1

1998-10-15 Thread Hamish Moffatt
On Wed, Oct 14, 1998 at 09:52:33PM +, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > I have to take a look at bug #27395 because pcmcia-modules works for > me. The report says not that they don't work, but that some things are not so good. They seem to be valid concerns although I'm not sure they are release-crit

Re: Slink not installable from CDs

1998-10-15 Thread Hamish Moffatt
On Wed, Oct 14, 1998 at 05:33:12PM +0100, Enrique Zanardi wrote: > Are we going to include "apt" in the base system? Its package > ordering feature (and a few others) obsoletes the other methods, but > currently apt doesn't work with mountable media. A "multi-cdrom-apt" > method should be added qui

Re: Bug#27823: proftpd: non-maintainer upload (alpha) diffs

1998-10-15 Thread Hartmut Koptein
> But you're missing my point. Why does a binary-only NMU give you the right > to skip waiting, while a normal NMU does not? Why are they different? Why > does one let you circumvent the rules, for however noble a purpose? > > Binary-only and normal NMU's are the same thing, and if you can do a >

Re: Upcoming 2.1 Release Architectures

1998-10-15 Thread warp
On Wed, Oct 14, 1998 at 12:04:29PM -0400, Christopher C Chimelis wrote: > > On Wed, 14 Oct 1998, Brian White wrote: > > > Could I get some official word on which architectures wish to be included > > in the 2.1 release of Debian? Thanks! > > So far, Alpha is looking "near" ready and we are shoo

Intent to package: slocate

1998-10-15 Thread Robert Woodcock
As featured on Bugtraq and recently Freshmeat, slocate is a replacement for locate/updatedb. It keeps track of UID's for files so that people can't see other people's hidden stuff, while still seeing their own. I'll have it create a diversion for /usr/bin/locate and /etc/cron.daily/find, and creat

.xsessions

1998-10-15 Thread Michael Stone
I keep seeing questions about getting .xsession's to work, the common problem being failure to set +x. Wasn't someone going to tweak the Xsession script to allow non-executable .xsessions? Mike Stone

Re: Bug#27823: proftpd: non-maintainer upload (alpha) diffs

1998-10-15 Thread Manoj Srivastava
Hi, >>"James" == James Troup <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: James> Joey Hess <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >> James Troup wrote: >> > They don't compile from freshly unpacked source. >> >> How odd. Other maintainer must work substantially differently than I, then. James> If you're building foob

Re: Bug#27823: proftpd: non-maintainer upload (alpha) diffs

1998-10-15 Thread Manoj Srivastava
Hi, >>"James" == James Troup <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: James> They don't compile from freshly unpacked source. Problems which James> aren't noticed are, for example, a debian/rules clean which depends on James> debian/rules build having at least partially run, or a debian/rules James> whic

Re: Intend to package, create OSS/Free

1998-10-15 Thread Manoj Srivastava
Hi, >>"Hamish" == Hamish Moffatt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Hamish> On Wed, Oct 14, 1998 at 05:09:54PM -0500, Manoj Srivastava wrote: >> Hi, >> >>"Hamish" == Hamish Moffatt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >> >> >> >> /usr/src/modules//, and runs ./debian/rules . >> >> Additionally, the foll

Gnome 0.30 fix?

1998-10-15 Thread Chris McKillop
Quick One... I know that the gnome 0.30 deb files are alittle messed up, but I don't remeber every seeing a "fix" to the segv problems. Was it a gtk/gdk problem with 1.0.x vs 1.1.x? I am trying to get eeyes to work and not having much luck...nor any of the other gnome apps in gnome-base.

Re: [] Bug#27841: apt: apt depends on a missing library

1998-10-15 Thread Dan Jacobowitz
On Mon, Oct 12, 1998 at 10:05:09PM -0700, Ben Gertzfield wrote: > Nobody has moved on getting libstdc++2.8 back in slink, even without > a -dev. > > Is anyone going to do this? > > Ben See, it's not "Is anyone going to?" or "Do we agree we should?" right now. It's "does anyone but Dan have the

Re: Removing Packages in Slink for Debian 2.1

1998-10-15 Thread Jim Pick
Brian White <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Okay, everybody... It's that time again. I've gone through the bug logs > and made my list of packages to keep/remove should they still have > release-critical (i.e. critical, grave, or important) bugs at ship time. What do you think we should do with

Re: Gnome 0.30 fix?

1998-10-15 Thread Jim Pick
Chris McKillop <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Quick One... > > I know that the gnome 0.30 deb files are alittle messed up, > but I don't remeber every seeing a "fix" to the segv problems. Was > it a gtk/gdk problem with 1.0.x vs 1.1.x? I am trying to get eeyes > to work and not having muc

Re: Perl 5.005.02

1998-10-15 Thread Darren/Torin/Who Ever...
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Roderick Schertler, in an immanent manifestation of deity, wrote: >I don't think Andy is taking into account your plan of allowing both >threaded and non-threaded Perls present on the system at the same time. That's okay since a) threaded Perl has it's own archi

New packages that might cause X to lock up?

1998-10-15 Thread David Welton
... with a card (Matrox Mystique 4meg) that should be supported quite well? This is making me nuts (luckily the computer doesn't die, I can still ssh in and shut it down), and I can't finish up packages, or code at all for that matter. Dejanews returns almost nothing with matrox mystique (crash|l

Re: Bug#27823: proftpd: non-maintainer upload (alpha) diffs

1998-10-15 Thread Buddha Buck
James Troup said: > Joey Hess <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > James Troup wrote: > > Why does a binary-only NMU give you the right to skip waiting, while > > a normal NMU does not? Why are they different? > > Because I'm not forcing my changes on anyone but the architecture I'm > uploading for.

Re: [] Bug#27841: apt: apt depends on a missing library

1998-10-15 Thread Ben Gertzfield
> "Dan" == Dan Jacobowitz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Dan> See, it's not "Is anyone going to?" or "Do we agree we Dan> should?" right now. It's "does anyone but Dan have the time Dan> to look at http://master.debian.org/~dan and figure out why Dan> the compiled libstdc++2.8 pa

Re: New packages that might cause X to lock up?

1998-10-15 Thread Turbo Fredriksson
David Welton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I suppose this is maybe not the best place for this question, but if I > am to have my packages ready for slink, I need to figure this out > quickly. I kind of wonder if the motherboard is wacked... I don't > need more stress:-( I don't know about the vi

Re: Slink not installable from CDs

1998-10-15 Thread Enrique Zanardi
On Wed, Oct 14, 1998 at 10:37:07PM +0200, Bart Schuller wrote: > On Wed, Oct 14, 1998 at 05:33:12PM +0100, Enrique Zanardi wrote: > > Are we going to include "apt" in the base system? Its package > > ordering feature (and a few others) obsoletes the other methods, but > > currently apt doesn't work

Re: Removing Packages in Slink for Debian 2.1

1998-10-15 Thread Paul Slootman
On Thu 15 Oct 1998, Marcus Brinkmann wrote: > On Wed, Oct 14, 1998 at 12:19:30PM -0400, Brian White wrote: > > strace26065 strace confused about sigaction flags [51] > > (Wichert Akkerman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>) > > Hmm. Why is this bug important anyway? I've looked at the bug report a

Re: latest sysklogd broken?

1998-10-15 Thread Paul Slootman
On Wed 14 Oct 1998, Martin Schulze wrote: > Thomas Lakofski wrote: > > > > Seems that the latest sysklogd package breaks sendmail's (and cron's, just > > checked) logging to syslog -- it works for a few minutes, and then no more > > logs. I don't know if this is universal (only checked 2 daemons)

octave-plplot: intention to package

1998-10-15 Thread Rafael Laboissiere
Hurrying before the slink freeze, here is my intention to package: === Package: octave-plplot Version: 0.3-1 Section: math Priority: optional Architecture: i386 Depends: libc6 (>= 2.0.7u), libstdc++2.9, tcl8.0 (>=8.

Re: Bug#27823: proftpd: non-maintainer upload (alpha) diffs

1998-10-15 Thread Christopher C. Chimelis
Buddha Buck wrote: > > How does that differ from -any- binary-only NMU, regardless of > architechture? If binary-only NMU's for i386 are bad, why are > binary-only NMUs for m68k OK? > > The only -real- problem I see with normal NMUs is that then the i386 > and m68k binaries are built from differ

Re: Removing Gnome [was: Removing Packages in Slink for Debian 2.1]

1998-10-15 Thread Brian White
> What do you think we should do with the Gnome stuff? > > The Gnome 0.30 stuff is still under rather heavy development. The > current packages in Slink are pretty much alpha-quality. Lots of > things don't work. It sounds like there will probably be a 1.0 > release coming up in a few months th

Re: Bug#27823: proftpd: non-maintainer upload (alpha) diffs

1998-10-15 Thread James Troup
Buddha Buck <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > James Troup said: > > Joey Hess <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > > > James Troup wrote: > > > Why does a binary-only NMU give you the right to skip waiting, while > > > a normal NMU does not? Why are they different? > > > > Because I'm not forcing my ch

Re: Bug#26065: Removing Packages in Slink for Debian 2.1

1998-10-15 Thread Wichert Akkerman
Previously Marcus Brinkmann wrote: > > Hello, > > On Wed, Oct 14, 1998 at 12:19:30PM -0400, Brian White wrote: > > strace26065 strace confused about sigaction flags [51] > > (Wichert Akkerman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>) > > Hmm. Why is this bug important anyway? I've looked at the bug re

Test

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Re: Bug#27823: proftpd: non-maintainer upload (alpha) diffs

1998-10-15 Thread Paul Slootman
On Thu 15 Oct 1998, James Troup wrote: > Joey Hess <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > Why does a binary-only NMU give you the right to skip waiting, while > > a normal NMU does not? Why are they different? > > Because I'm not forcing my changes on anyone but the architecture I'm > uploading for.

Re: Removing Packages in Slink for Debian 2.1

1998-10-15 Thread Michael Bramer
On Wed, Oct 14, 1998 at 09:33:22PM -0700, Jim Pick wrote: > Brian White <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > Okay, everybody... It's that time again. I've gone through the bug logs > > and made my list of packages to keep/remove should they still have > > release-critical (i.e. critical, grave, or

Re: sendmail logging disappeared

1998-10-15 Thread Russell Coker
On Thu, 15 Oct 1998, Thomas Lakofski wrote: >hmmm, just rebooted for the first time in 20 days and my sendmail daemon >isn't doing any logging. no problems in /etc/syslog.conf, and sendmail >invoked by pine drops logs in the right places. daemon logs its >invocation and then goes about its busine

Re: Upcoming 2.1 Release Architectures

1998-10-15 Thread Christopher C Chimelis
On Wed, 14 Oct 1998 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > There is one, MAJOR, huge, massive, 'program' which egcs will not > properly compile, this is the kernel, 2.0.x is officially not going to > operate 100% correctly when compiled with gcc 2.8.x or egcs.. > > Any suggestions? On the Alpha? I've had

Re: Removing Packages in Slink for Debian 2.1

1998-10-15 Thread Brian White
> smb2www 27641 perl 5.005-02 breaks smb2www [0] (Craig Small > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>) > > This one also refers to the version of perl which has been > removed. (It broke every module, so there are several such bug reports) I knew about it, but not which bugs it affected. I'll

Re: Screenshots (Re: gdselect alpha 3)

1998-10-15 Thread Martin Schulze
Nils Rennebarth wrote: > On Wed, Oct 14, 1998 at 05:03:22PM +0200, Martin Schulze wrote: > > I was told recently that people might be interested in some screenshots > > of the program. The following page contains three images. > > > > http://www.infodrom.north.de/~joey/Linux/Debian/gdselect.html

Re: Upcoming 2.1 Release Architectures

1998-10-15 Thread Brian White
> > So far, Alpha is looking "near" ready and we are shooting to release with > > slink/i386. A caveat, however, is that we need to resolve some big egcs > > issues SOON or else we can't release (as is, 1.1b will not compile two or > > three vital packages correctly). > > There is one, MAJOR, hug

Re: Upcoming 2.1 Release Architectures

1998-10-15 Thread Paul Slootman
On Wed 14 Oct 1998, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > On Wed, Oct 14, 1998 at 12:04:29PM -0400, Christopher C Chimelis wrote: > > > > slink/i386. A caveat, however, is that we need to resolve some big egcs > > issues SOON or else we can't release (as is, 1.1b will not compile two or > > three vital pack

Re: Bug#27823: proftpd: non-maintainer upload (alpha) diffs

1998-10-15 Thread warp
I don't really want to get into this, I've got enough people mad at me for filing some bug reports, but I think this needs to be said, anyways. On Thu, Oct 15, 1998 at 02:54:02AM +0200, Hartmut Koptein wrote: > > > But you're missing my point. Why does a binary-only NMU give you the right > > to s

Re: Slink not installable from CDs

1998-10-15 Thread Kenneth Scharf
If main is split into two cd's then no packages in main1 should depend on any in main2. (packages in main2 could depend on main1, then you would be told to go back and install them from main1?) _ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com addr

Re: Slink not installable from CDs

1998-10-15 Thread Kevin Dalley
Can apt handle a situation where there is not enough room in the /var partition for a complete download? Last time I check, about a month ago, it could not handle this case. The ftp method can handle too small /var. Manoj Srivastava <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Apt has a builtin ftp metho

Re: Screenshots (Re: gdselect alpha 3)

1998-10-15 Thread Greg Vence
Martin Schulze wrote: > > Nils Rennebarth wrote: > > On Wed, Oct 14, 1998 at 05:03:22PM +0200, Martin Schulze wrote: > > > I was told recently that people might be interested in some screenshots > > > of the program. The following page contains three images. > > > > > > http://www.infodrom.north.

Possible serious problem with the newest sysklogd?

1998-10-15 Thread Seth M. Landsman
Hmm, so I just updated the syslogd on my system yesterday (using dselect, slink 2.1 i386 system). Then I stopped receiving mail completely via qmail. About 4 hours later I realized I hadn't received any mail for the day and saw no qmail entries in my logs. I restarted qmail and re

Re: Upcoming 2.1 Release Architectures

1998-10-15 Thread J.H.M. Dassen \(Ray\)
On Thu, Oct 15, 1998 at 01:50:33PM +0200, Paul Slootman wrote: > I last compiled (with success) 2.0.36pre2 with "gcc version egcs-2.90.29 > 980515 (egcs 1.0.3 release)" (according to /proc/version). That works > perfectly with ISDN and all, and stayed up for a month until I upgraded > sysvinit whi

Re: .xsessions

1998-10-15 Thread Ole J. Tetlie
*-Michael Stone <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> | | I keep seeing questions about getting .xsession's to work, the common | problem being failure to set +x. Wasn't someone going to tweak the | Xsession script to allow non-executable .xsessions? I'll file a wishlist bug with a patch to xbase. -- The only way

Re: Removing Packages in Slink for Debian 2.1

1998-10-15 Thread Stephane Bortzmeyer
On Wednesday 14 October 1998, at 12 h 19, the keyboard of Brian White <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > The following are packages I feel we can remove: ... > netatalk 25598 netalk: several problems (and the solution) [64] > (Joel Klecker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>) As a new developer, I just wa

Re: Bug#26065: Removing Packages in Slink for Debian 2.1

1998-10-15 Thread Marcus . Brinkmann
On Thu, Oct 15, 1998 at 04:26:21PM +0200, Wichert Akkerman wrote: > > It was important because Raul Miller made it that. He needed strace to > debug a problem with one of his packages and found that bug. Since he > hasn't responded to my failure to reproduce the problem I was going to > downgrade

Re: Possible serious problem with the newest sysklogd?

1998-10-15 Thread Martin Schulze
Seth M. Landsman wrote: > Hmm, so I just updated the syslogd on my system yesterday (using > dselect, slink 2.1 i386 system). Then I stopped receiving mail completely > via qmail. About 4 hours later I realized I hadn't received any mail for > the day and saw no qmail entries in my logs. >

Re: Removing Packages in Slink for Debian 2.1

1998-10-15 Thread Martin Schulze
Jim Pick wrote: > > Brian White <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > Okay, everybody... It's that time again. I've gone through the bug logs > > and made my list of packages to keep/remove should they still have > > release-critical (i.e. critical, grave, or important) bugs at ship time. > > What

Re: PROPOSAL: one debian list for all porting efforts

1998-10-15 Thread Joel Klecker
At 12:30 +0200 1998-10-14, Paul Slootman wrote: On Mon 12 Oct 1998, Hartmut Koptein wrote: :-) debian/i386 is also a port! No. For 90% (I think more) of the packages it is the primary architecture. The word "port" implies carrying to _another_ architecture. Hence the package on the primary archit

Re: Possible serious problem with the newest sysklogd?

1998-10-15 Thread Martin Schulze
Seth M. Landsman wrote: > On Thu, Oct 15, 1998 at 04:59:42PM +0200, Martin Schulze wrote: > > Seth M. Landsman wrote: > > > Hmm, so I just updated the syslogd on my system yesterday (using > > > dselect, slink 2.1 i386 system). Then I stopped receiving mail completely > > > via qmail. About 4 h

Re: Upcoming 2.1 Release Architectures

1998-10-15 Thread Brian White
> > > Oh, i can generate a kernel-image_2.1.125-1_powerpc.deb along with source > > > and dsc files and upload it to master, but will you and the other arch > > > maintainer agree with this?? > > > > If it's a powerpc package only, I don't see why there would be a problem. > > It should get install

Re: Removing Packages in Slink for Debian 2.1

1998-10-15 Thread Brian White
> On Wed, Oct 14, 1998 at 12:19:30PM -0400, Brian White wrote: > > strace26065 strace confused about sigaction flags [51] > > (Wichert Akkerman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>) > > Hmm. Why is this bug important anyway? I've looked at the bug report and > found no explanation. Darn. I downgra

Re: login time limits in slink???

1998-10-15 Thread Craig Sanders
On 15 Oct 1998, Paul Crowley wrote: > Craig Sanders <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > anyone know what it is in slink which is enforcing idle-timeout and daily > > time limits on serial lines? > > I don't have this problem, and I haven't installed idled: > > Description: Idle Daemon. Removes id

Re: Upcoming 2.1 Release Architectures

1998-10-15 Thread Jules Bean
--On Thu, Oct 15, 1998 1:12 pm +0200 "Christian Meder" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> > * if there's a stabilized snapshot newbies will get (hopefully) a >> > softer introduction in the wonders of the Linux-Sparc/Powerpc/Arm/... >> world >> >> >> I see your argument. I'm worried that we might be

Re: Upcoming 2.1 Release Architectures

1998-10-15 Thread Christian Meder
On Wed, Oct 14, 1998 at 11:49:59PM +0100, Jules Bean wrote: > --On Thu, Oct 15, 1998 12:14 am +0200 "Christian Meder" > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > On Wed, Oct 14, 1998 at 10:05:25AM -0700, Stephen Zander wrote: > >> > "Brian" == Brian White <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > >> > >> Bri

Re: login time limits in slink???

1998-10-15 Thread Paul Crowley
Craig Sanders <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > anyone know what it is in slink which is enforcing idle-timeout and daily > time limits on serial lines? > > i've hunted all over (even to the point of grepping every file in /etc, > /bin, /usr/bin, /sbin, /usr/sbin) for it and can't find it anywhere.

Re: Closing bugs

1998-10-15 Thread Santiago Vila
On 14 Oct 1998, Ole J. Tetlie wrote: > Quick question: When two bugs are merged, do I need to close both > or will one closing close both, and send a message to both the > submittors? The documentation for the bug system says: [...] When reports are merged opening, closing, marking or unmark

Re: Upcoming 2.1 Release Architectures

1998-10-15 Thread Paul Slootman
On Thu 15 Oct 1998, J.H.M. Dassen Ray" wrote: > On Thu, Oct 15, 1998 at 01:50:33PM +0200, Paul Slootman wrote: > > I last compiled (with success) 2.0.36pre2 with "gcc version egcs-2.90.29 > > 980515 (egcs 1.0.3 release)" (according to /proc/version). That works > > perfectly with ISDN and all, and

Re: Upcoming 2.1 Release Architectures

1998-10-15 Thread Paul Slootman
On Thu 15 Oct 1998, Christopher C Chimelis wrote: > On Wed, 14 Oct 1998 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > There is one, MAJOR, huge, massive, 'program' which egcs will not > > properly compile, this is the kernel, 2.0.x is officially not going to > > operate 100% correctly when compiled with gcc 2.8.

Re: Screenshots (Re: gdselect alpha 3)

1998-10-15 Thread Nils Rennebarth
On Wed, Oct 14, 1998 at 05:03:22PM +0200, Martin Schulze wrote: > I was told recently that people might be interested in some screenshots > of the program. The following page contains three images. > > http://www.infodrom.north.de/~joey/Linux/Debian/gdselect.html Does anyone else has the problem

Re: Gnome 0.30 fix?

1998-10-15 Thread Martin Alonso Soto
Jim Pick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I have the same problem here. I spent a little time trying to debug > it, but never finished due to a lack of time. It might have something > to do with gtk and themes, but I'm not sure. Where are the segfaults happening? I found a pretty nasty one with the

Re: Deleting uncompressed Info/Doc files at upgrades

1998-10-15 Thread Stephane Bortzmeyer
On Friday 2 October 1998, at 11 h 55, the keyboard of Peter S Galbraith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > To me, a uncompressed version of a file is still the same file. > To me, copying an uncompressed info file to /usr/local/info *is* leaving > crud all over the disk. Yes, the current Debian system

PGP question

1998-10-15 Thread M.C. Vernon
I have a slight problem with PGP: I do my development on pick and can post from there (but don't) - all my email is done from cus (and I'm not sure if it can cope with PGP) So do I: post from pick, and hope no-one sends me encrypted mail or what? I need to sort this out befo

Corporate Visibility for Linux

1998-10-15 Thread Bob Hilliard
The following is quoted from the column Business Bulletin on the front page of today's Wall Street journal, which is probably the most widely read newspaper by corporate America: 'FREEWARE' STIRS debate while entrepreneurs find a nice niche. Advocates prefer to call the free softwa

Re: Removing Packages in Slink for Debian 2.1

1998-10-15 Thread Michael Meskes
On Wed, Oct 14, 1998 at 09:33:22PM -0700, Jim Pick wrote: > What do you think we should do with the Gnome stuff? Keep it in! > The Gnome 0.30 stuff is still under rather heavy development. The > current packages in Slink are pretty much alpha-quality. Lots of > things don't work. It sounds lik

Re: Removing Packages in Slink for Debian 2.1

1998-10-15 Thread Ben Armstrong
On Thu, 15 Oct 1998, Martin Schulze wrote: > > What do you think we should do with the Gnome stuff? > > > > The Gnome 0.30 stuff is still under rather heavy development. The > > current packages in Slink are pretty much alpha-quality. Lots of > > things don't work. It sounds like there will pro

Re: login time limits in slink???

1998-10-15 Thread Tom Lear
On Thu, 15 Oct 1998, Craig Sanders wrote: > On 15 Oct 1998, Paul Crowley wrote: > > > Craig Sanders <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > > > anyone know what it is in slink which is enforcing idle-timeout and daily > > > time limits on serial lines? > > > > I don't have this problem, and I haven't

Re: login time limits in slink???

1998-10-15 Thread Mitch Blevins
Craig Sanders wrote: > On 15 Oct 1998, Paul Crowley wrote: > > > Craig Sanders <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > > > anyone know what it is in slink which is enforcing idle-timeout and daily > > > time limits on serial lines? > > > > I don't have this problem, and I haven't installed idled: > >

Re: Removing Packages in Slink for Debian 2.1

1998-10-15 Thread Marc Singer
On Wed, Oct 14, 1998 at 09:33:22PM -0700, Jim Pick wrote: > > Brian White <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > Okay, everybody... It's that time again. I've gone through the bug logs > > and made my list of packages to keep/remove should they still have > > release-critical (i.e. critical, grave,

Re: Upcoming 2.1 Release Architectures

1998-10-15 Thread Christopher C. Chimelis
Paul Slootman wrote: > > The last time I tried (about 10 sec. ago, on a.d.nl :-): > > make[2]: Entering directory `/extra/home/debian/psl/kernel/linux/drivers/net' > gcc -D__KERNEL__ -I/extra/home/debian/psl/kernel/linux/include -Wall > -Wstrict-prototypes -O2 -fomit-frame-pointer -fno-strength-

Re: Slink not installable from CDs

1998-10-15 Thread Marcelo E. Magallon
On Wed, Oct 14, 1998 at 05:56:42PM +0100, Philip Hands wrote: > Is something like ``Anything with a priority of extra gets put on the second > CD'' a reasonable guess ? or should we make a list of stuff to go on the > second CD based on some sensible criteria (if anyone can think of some > wit

Re: PGP question

1998-10-15 Thread Jules Bean
--On Thu, Oct 15, 1998 4:46 pm +0100 "M.C. Vernon" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I have a slight problem with PGP: I do my development on pick and can post > from there (but don't) - all my email is done from cus (and I'm not sure > if it can cope with PGP) > > So do I: > > po

Re: PGP question

1998-10-15 Thread Jules Bean
--On Thu, Oct 15, 1998 5:43 pm +0100 "Jules Bean" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hermes for mail (but you could use cus), with PGP support. Doh. Hermes *without* PGP support, I meant. /+---+-\ | Jelibean aka | [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: PROPOSAL: one debian list for all porting efforts

1998-10-15 Thread Marcus . Brinkmann
On Thu, Oct 15, 1998 at 08:15:02AM -0700, Joel Klecker wrote: > At 12:30 +0200 1998-10-14, Paul Slootman wrote: > >On Mon 12 Oct 1998, Hartmut Koptein wrote: > >> :-) debian/i386 is also a port! > > > >No. For 90% (I think more) of the packages it is the primary architecture. > >The word "port"

Re: Bug#27823: proftpd: non-maintainer upload (alpha) diffs

1998-10-15 Thread Hartmut Koptein
Ok, let us a little bit summarize: 1. binary-only NMUs breaks policity 2. every NMU must be with source 3. Porters needn't to ask maintainers for permission 4. a NMU fixes bugs; no need to forward this to the BTS or the maintainer ok for all ? If the answer is 'yes' i agree !

Re: Bug#26065: Removing Packages in Slink for Debian 2.1

1998-10-15 Thread David Welton
On Thu, Oct 15, 1998 at 04:26:21PM +0200, Wichert Akkerman wrote: > I'm still amazed by the development of strace.. basically it's a nightmare > to work on. Upstream version are _extremely_ rare and there are literaly > dozens of patches floating around, but nobody collects them. I think > Debian

Re: latest sysklogd broken?

1998-10-15 Thread Stephen Zander
> "Michael" == Michael Sobolev <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Michael> Same things happens to me. Today I upgraded two things Michael> sendmail and syslogd (what a coincidence! :). After few Michael> minutes I found that `ps ax' shows a lot of sendmail Michael> processes. Everyt

Re: octave-plplot: intention to package

1998-10-15 Thread Joao Cardoso
Rafael Laboissiere wrote: Hurrying before the slink freeze, here is my intention to package: ===  Package: octave-plplot  Version: 0.3-1  Section: math  Priority: optional  Architecture: i386  Depends: libc6 (>= 2.0.7u),

Anyone packaging snes9x?

1998-10-15 Thread Dave Swegen
I've been considering packaging snes9x, and was just wondering whether it had already been done. Also, are there any developers in the Southampton (UK) area? I could do with someone to sign for me (no, I don't have access to a scanner). Cheers Dave

Which PGP?

1998-10-15 Thread Dave Swegen
Out of curiosity, which version of PGP is the debian de facto standard. I'm currently using v5, but I've seen a number of people use 2.6... Cheers Dave

Re: Upcoming 2.1 Release Architectures

1998-10-15 Thread Hartmut Koptein
> If we call it something like a 'developer' release, or an 'early-access' > release, then it sounds like a great idea, yes... as long as people don't > get the impression that it is a full 2.1 release. Ok, under this impression powerpc is ready to go. I'll upload 2.1 kernel source and images

Re: Slink not installable from CDs

1998-10-15 Thread Santiago Vila
On Wed, 14 Oct 1998, Philip Hands wrote: > Is something like ``Anything with a priority of extra gets put on the second > CD'' a reasonable guess ? Only in part. Some packages should definitely be on the first CD even if they are extra, namely the ones that are extra because they conflict with

Re: Anyone packaging snes9x?

1998-10-15 Thread Ben Gertzfield
> "Dave" == Dave Swegen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Dave> I've been considering packaging snes9x, and was just Dave> wondering whether it had already been done. It's been done. :) -- Brought to you by the letters Q and Z and the number 1. "Ha ha! I have evaded you with the aid of th

Re: Which PGP?

1998-10-15 Thread Ben Gertzfield
> "Dave" == Dave Swegen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Dave> Out of curiosity, which version of PGP is the debian de Dave> facto standard. I'm currently using v5, but I've seen a Dave> number of people use 2.6... Debian uses 2.6 for now. 5 is a bit incompatible with other versions,

Re: Bug#27823: proftpd: non-maintainer upload (alpha) diffs

1998-10-15 Thread Hartmut Koptein
Hi James, > Who said they were bad? They are very rarely necessary however, since > 99.5% of the time (the only exception I know of is Hartmut's packages) yes, my packages are the only one that test masters scripts for non-i386 maintainer source uploads. :-) This is now possible but it was not

Re: Slink not installable from CDs

1998-10-15 Thread David Welton
On Thu, Oct 15, 1998 at 08:31:59PM +0200, Santiago Vila wrote: > > "What would you like to see on the first CD"? Why don't we look at what the most popular downloads have been? Some Perl/Python type person ought to be able to parse them nicely, include information about relative sizes of things,

Re: Gnome 0.30 fix?

1998-10-15 Thread John Lapeyre
On Thu, 15 Oct 1998, Martin Alonso Soto wrote: masoto>to find anything wrong in the code. However, at a given time I added masoto>some printf statements to the code (to print certain values the masoto>debugger was not getting right) and the problem disappeared (!). Th

Re: Slink not installable from CDs

1998-10-15 Thread Santiago Vila
On Thu, 15 Oct 1998, David Welton wrote: > On Thu, Oct 15, 1998 at 08:31:59PM +0200, Santiago Vila wrote: > > "What would you like to see on the first CD"? > > Why don't we look at what the most popular downloads have been? [...] Good idea! -- "1df9795f6d2984efc8f37c0f0fda9b32" (a truly random

Re: Debian 2.[01] -- Only rudimentary support for Laptops?

1998-10-15 Thread Alexander Kushnirenko
Hi, > I have an IBM ThinkPad 380XD. I have found that 2.0.x kernels just don't > work properly, my machine will crash or shutdown during boot. I believe that > the best thing that can be done to support laptops is to create boot disks > with 2.1.125 kernels. 2.1.125 works well on my laptop in e

Re: Removing Packages in Slink for Debian 2.1

1998-10-15 Thread Javier Fdz-Sanguino Pen~a
On Wed, Oct 14, 1998 at 12:19:30PM -0400, Brian White wrote: > vrwave23436 vrwave should maybe go in contrib? [124] (Javier > Fernandez-Sanguino Pen~a <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>) > xswallow 25932 Xswallow should be in contrib [55] (Javier > Fernandez-Sanguino Pen~a <[EMAIL PROT

Re: Which PGP?

1998-10-15 Thread Stephen J. Carpenter
On Thu, Oct 15, 1998 at 11:36:47AM -0700, Ben Gertzfield wrote: > > "Dave" == Dave Swegen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > Dave> Out of curiosity, which version of PGP is the debian de > Dave> facto standard. I'm currently using v5, but I've seen a > Dave> number of people use 2.6.

Re: Debian 2.[01] -- Only rudimentary support for Laptops?

1998-10-15 Thread Nathan E Norman
On Thu, 15 Oct 1998, Alexander Kushnirenko wrote: : Hi, : : > I have an IBM ThinkPad 380XD. I have found that 2.0.x kernels just don't : > work properly, my machine will crash or shutdown during boot. I believe that : > the best thing that can be done to support laptops is to create boot

Re: Bug#27823: proftpd: non-maintainer upload (alpha) diffs

1998-10-15 Thread James Troup
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > > binary-only MNU hits only one arch > > normal NMU hits possible all archs=20 > > A binary-only MNU violates the GPL, end of story. FUD, FUD, FUD and more FUD. The source changes for our binary-only NMUs are _always_ sent to the BTS. Also, please get over this GPL

Re: Which PGP?

1998-10-15 Thread James Troup
Dave Swegen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Out of curiosity, which version of PGP is the debian de facto standard. > I'm currently using v5, but I've seen a number of people use 2.6... 2.x; we don't accept later stuff. -- James

Re: Bug#27823: proftpd: non-maintainer upload (alpha) diffs

1998-10-15 Thread James Troup
Hartmut Koptein <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > 1. binary-only NMUs breaks policity > 2. every NMU must be with source > 3. Porters needn't to ask maintainers for permission > 4. a NMU fixes bugs; no need to forward this to the BTS or the maintainer > > ok for all ? That would be a big

Re: Removing Packages in Slink for Debian 2.1

1998-10-15 Thread Richard Braakman
Javier Fdz-Sanguino Pen~a wrote: > This is my fault, I should have had more time to fix this (move it > into non-free) with a new upload, but I don't know how to do this? File a > bug against ftp.debian.org? Just upload the package with section non-free/whatever, and it will be taken care of

Re: Debian 2.[01] -- Only rudimentary support for Laptops?

1998-10-15 Thread Seth M. Landsman
On Thu, Oct 15, 1998 at 02:49:19PM -0500, Nathan E Norman wrote: > On Thu, 15 Oct 1998, Alexander Kushnirenko wrote: > > : Hi, > : > : > I have an IBM ThinkPad 380XD. I have found that 2.0.x kernels just don't > : > work properly, my machine will crash or shutdown during boot. I believe >

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