Re: WANTED: someone to create a livefilesystem

1998-06-12 Thread joost
On Thu, 11 Jun 1998, Andreas Jellinghaus wrote: > the "contrib" cdrom of the official cdset > should contain a livefilesystem, only to repair an installed linux. > > i want that filesystem to have all text editors (see the current discussion), > and every programm that might be usefull to repa

Re: Official CDROM

1998-06-12 Thread Barak Pearlmutter
[EMAIL PROTECTED]: > Instead of the two-cd's-without-source, I'd rather see a special > lightweight _single_ Debian cd for i386 that carries: > ... > A cd like this, with approximately 250 meg binaries, 250 meg sources, 40 > meg documentation, 10 meg kernels and a 100 meg live filesystem would > ma

Re: Bootint big kernels

1998-06-12 Thread Wichert Akkerman
Previously Steve Dunham wrote: > The only isapnp devices I know of are audio. Are there any SCSI or > enet devices? (If so a table would be necessary as they are discovered.) Yes, my adaptec 152x card is PnP. hint: don't use isapnp after booting from a PnP scsi-card! Wichert. --

Re: Bootint big kernels

1998-06-12 Thread Hamish Moffatt
On Thu, Jun 11, 1998 at 06:10:16PM -0500, Martin Alonso Soto Jacome wrote: > Steve Dunham <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > The only isapnp devices I know of are audio. Are there any SCSI or > > enet devices? (If so a table would be necessary as they are discovered.) > > Yes, a lot of modern soundc

Re: RFC: packaging kernel modules

1998-06-12 Thread Jason Gunthorpe
On Thu, 11 Jun 1998, Hamish Moffatt wrote: > > Well, this sounds find, but I've never observed this to actually work. > > [5:30pm] [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~# dpkg -s ntfs2.0.33 > Package: ntfs2.0.33 > Status: install ok installed > > [5:30pm] [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~# modprobe ntfs > /lib/modules/2.0/fs/n

Re: RFC: packaging kernel modules

1998-06-12 Thread Jason Gunthorpe
On Thu, 11 Jun 1998, Yann Dirson wrote: > Jason Gunthorpe writes: > > Hm, we should really talk to the kernel people.. but here is my thoughts, > > #1 - If person X compiles a module for kernel x.x.x and it doesn't work > >on your compile of x.x.x then you need to recompile your kern

Re: RFC: packaging kernel modules

1998-06-12 Thread Hamish Moffatt
On Thu, Jun 11, 1998 at 07:17:19PM -0600, Jason Gunthorpe wrote: > For instance, in this case you may not have mod versions enabled, it might > be possible to convice ntfs to build without them and it might work, but > it is equally good for you to compile your kernel with mod versions > enabled to

Re: mirroring policy

1998-06-12 Thread Jason Gunthorpe
On Thu, 11 Jun 1998, James A.Treacy wrote: > I've discussed this with Jason and he's against it. He feels that it will be > too > much administrative overhead to keep a list of acceptable mirrors. The reason > we would want to set up restrictions is to prevent just anyone from mirroring > from

Re: RFC: packaging kernel modules

1998-06-12 Thread Herbert Xu
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> you wrote: > On Thu, 11 Jun 1998, Hamish Moffatt wrote: >> >> Well, this sounds find, but I've never observed this to actually work. >> >> [5:30pm] [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~# dpkg -s ntfs2.0.33 >> Package: ntfs2.0.33 >> Status: install ok installed >> >> [5:30pm] [EMAIL

Re: RFC: packaging kernel modules

1998-06-12 Thread Jason Gunthorpe
On Fri, 12 Jun 1998, Herbert Xu wrote: > > The thing you must realize is if those symbols are no present in your > > kernel then there is nothing you can do to make that module work. > > Not strictly true. The symbols refered to above are always in the kernel, but > the checksum is very much ve

Re: RFC: packaging kernel modules

1998-06-12 Thread Herbert Xu
Jason Gunthorpe wrote: > > What exactly is that checksum a checksum of? I would hope that it is a > hash of the function signature which should be constant for any kernel > version. If it is a hash of the contents then there is no point in having > binary modules.. It is computed from the signatu

Propersel for standerd configuration system.

1998-06-12 Thread Kevin Atkinson
Although this is really a broader issue than just linux or debian I thought I would present it to you guys and girls first. One of the major problems with unix is that, for new users, it is a bear to configure. I was thinking about this this afternoon an an idea struck me on a great way to solve

Re: joilet fs for official cdrom

1998-06-12 Thread Ben Gertzfield
(Cc:'ed to [EMAIL PROTECTED]) > "Ronald" == Ronald Lembcke <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Ronald> I had the same problem with my selfburned hamm cd's... the Ronald> debian-hamm kernel seems to prefere joliet over Ronald> rockridge with mount -o nojoliet the symlinks Ronald>

Re: Propersel for standerd configuration system.

1998-06-12 Thread Kevin Atkinson
After writing this I realized that I did not give any good reason for while it is needed so here it is. The Standard Configuration System solves the problem of the difficulty in managing unix (and especially linux) machines forever. Although there are many front end for configuring various parts

Re: mirroring policy

1998-06-12 Thread Philip Hands
> Lets ask Andrew to add CHAP like authentication - that will clear my > complaints. I don't like the idea of IP based authentication, it is weak > and it is a pain to admin. Too late --- he's already added it :-) In the /etc/rsyncd.conf file on the target, you need something like this: [debia

Intent to package: ud

1998-06-12 Thread Fredrik Hallenberg
I intend to package ud, the uptime daemon. This package should be ready in a few days. -- Fredrik Hallenberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.lysator.liu.se/~hallon [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UN

Re: Rescue and Installation (was Re: VI reasons)

1998-06-12 Thread Michael Shields
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Steve Shorter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Exactly! System "rescue" is fundamentally different from > "installation". It is logical and expedient to seperate the two functions. Take a look at the rescue disks on ftp.varesearch.com. They're very good. -- Sh

Re: mirroring policy

1998-06-12 Thread Michael Shields
I don't mind having people mirror off debian.crosslink.net; it has lots of capacity. The past problems with debian.crosslink.net not mirroring correctly, and the underlying problem of my having no time to fix it, have been resolved. Currently I'm mirroring it over rsync/ssh to master; but by hand

Re: Propersel for standerd configuration system.

1998-06-12 Thread Philip Hands
> The layout of the registry will be similar to Microsoft's windows > registry however it will be far more powerful. ... > So what do you think of this idea? IMHO The registry is the main reason that on Windows the solution to every problem is ``re-install from scratch''. What happens when you ge

Re: joilet fs for official cdrom

1998-06-12 Thread Philip Hands
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] is the right place for this. Don't you mean: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: joilet fs for official cdrom

1998-06-12 Thread James Pearson
>Ronald> another problem with joliet... a bug in mkisofs and >Ronald> mkhybrid (at least in the newest available versioin >Ronald> arround april 6th) > >Ronald> when you make a bootable cd with joliet _and_ rockridge >Ronald> the information for the bios that it is a bootable cd

Re: joilet fs for official cdrom

1998-06-12 Thread Thomas Hohenberger
On 11 Jun 1998, Ben Gertzfield wrote: [] > So: > > * We need a way to make the kernel prefer iso9660 with rock-ridge over >Joliet. The kernel currently prefers Joliet over iso9660 with >rock-ridge, so symlinks are invisible on CD-ROMs that are both >iso9660 and Joliet. [] I followe

Re: joilet fs for official cdrom

1998-06-12 Thread Luis Francisco Gonzalez
Philip Hands wrote: > > >I thought debian's 2.0.33 had the FAT32 patch. This is the same as the > > >joilet > > >stuff AFAIK. Does this mean that you are using a non-standard kernel or am > > >I > > >just totally wrong here? > > > > i don't know what [EMAIL PROTECTED] is useing (no symlinks at h

Re: another look at release-critical bugs: lpr

1998-06-12 Thread Paul Slootman
On Wed 03 Jun 1998, Craig Sanders wrote: > On Sat, 30 May 1998, Jay Wardle wrote: > > > [...Raul wrote...] > > > If this can't be fixed easily, perhaps we ought to promote lprng to > > > standard and demote lpr to optional. Yes, I know that bug-for-bug > > > compatability is a nice thing, but in m

Re: joilet fs for official cdrom

1998-06-12 Thread Joerg Schilling
>From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fri Jun 12 10:34:48 1998 >>Ronald> another problem with joliet... a bug in mkisofs and >>Ronald> mkhybrid (at least in the newest available versioin >>Ronald> arround april 6th) >> >>Ronald> when you make a bootable cd with joliet _and_ rockridge >>Ronal

Re: Propersel for standerd configuration system.

1998-06-12 Thread Jules Bean
--On Fri, Jun 12, 1998 7:53 am +0100 "Philip Hands" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> The layout of the registry will be similar to Microsoft's windows >> registry however it will be far more powerful. > ... >> So what do you think of this idea? > > IMHO The registry is the main reason that on Windo

Swedish maintainers?

1998-06-12 Thread Thimo Neubauer
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hi, I am a german physics-student right now studying in Uppsala, Sweden. Really soon I want to register as a new Debian-maintainer and take over some orphaned packages (bibindex, xbattle, p2c?) to help to reach the goal of a completely maintained distribution. No

Re: mkdosfs

1998-06-12 Thread Paul Slootman
On Wed 10 Jun 1998, Michael Alan Dorman wrote: > On Wed, Jun 10, 1998 at 09:10:37AM +0200, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > On Tue, Jun 09, 1998 at 02:26:50PM +0200, Michael Dietrich wrote: > > > who maintains the mkdosfs package > > There's no separate mkdosfs package anymore; it has been merged into

Compiling stuff for frozen with g++272 ?

1998-06-12 Thread Gregor Hoffleit
I don't know how to handle this: My swig package in frozen has a small, but `important' bug dealing with version numbers (#20068, swig: dpkg thinks 1.1p5-1 < 1.1.b5.p2-1). I thought about simply rebuilding the package with a changed revision number "1.1.p5-1" which would fix the bug in a very

Re: Compiling stuff for frozen with g++272 ?

1998-06-12 Thread jdassen
On Fri, Jun 12, 1998 at 03:54:57PM +0200, Gregor Hoffleit wrote: > Now I don't know: When I recompile the package using the official g++ 2.90 > / libstdc++ 2.80 combo, this may introduce new bugs, therefore I'm sure > Brian won't allow this to go into frozen. IIRC, at least one package has been fi

Re: Compiling stuff for frozen with g++272 ?

1998-06-12 Thread Hamish Moffatt
On Fri, Jun 12, 1998 at 03:54:57PM +0200, Gregor Hoffleit wrote: > But when I compared the resulting packages, I found that the old package > had been built with a g++/libstdc++ based on 2.7.2, while nowadays g++ > 2.90 is the official C++ compiler, going with libstdc++2.8. > > Now I don't kno

Re: another look at release-critical bugs: lpr

1998-06-12 Thread Raul Miller
Paul Slootman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > If you take a look at the bug report, you'll see that there's a > workaround already in place for this bug, but the maintainer left the > bug report intact because he wants to find a cleaner solution. > > Hence this discussion of lpr <-> lprng is pretty mu

Re: guavac bug #22325

1998-06-12 Thread Hamish Moffatt
On Wed, Jun 10, 1998 at 10:05:05AM -0400, Brian White wrote: > > Bug #22325, marked important, says that my package guavac has an > > unsatisfied suggestion on java-virtual-machine. I need your > > advice on what to do about it. > I'd do either: > > 1) ignore the "suggests" problem I think this

Re: Swedish maintainers?

1998-06-12 Thread Rafael Laboissiere
> "TN" == Thimo Neubauer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: TN> Really soon I want to register as a new Debian-maintainer and TN> take over some orphaned packages (bibindex, xbattle, p2c?) Too late, I already took over bibindex (the packag

Re: Propersel for standerd configuration system.

1998-06-12 Thread sjc
On Fri, Jun 12, 1998 at 12:23:28AM -0400, Kevin Atkinson wrote: > One of the major problems with unix is that, for new users, > it is a bear to configure. I definitly agree (and am glad im not one of those "new users"). In fact most "new things" that one has never configured before take a while

Re: The Hamm Bugs Stamp-Out List

1998-06-12 Thread Adam P. Harris
"Marcelo E. Magallon" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On Sun, Jun 07, 1998 at 11:40:30PM +0200, Richard Braakman wrote: > > > Package: bootdisk (pseudo) > > Maintainer: Maintainer Group <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > 20779 Debian 2.0 won't boot of a hard disk after install > >

Re: p3nfs (was Bug #21488: p3nfs linked against libc5)

1998-06-12 Thread Adam P. Harris
David Frey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On Tue, Jun 09, 1998 at 08:35:47PM +0100, Chris Reed wrote: > >As listed in The Hamm Bugs Stamp-Out List for 1998-06-08, p3nfs is still > >linked against libc5, and the maintainer, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Billy > >C.-M. Chow) cannot be contacted. > > > >I have

Re: Propersel for standerd configuration system.

1998-06-12 Thread Kevin Atkinson
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > On Fri, Jun 12, 1998 at 12:23:28AM -0400, Kevin Atkinson wrote: > > > One of the major problems with unix is that, for new users, > > it is a bear to configure. > > I definitly agree (and am glad im not one of those "new users"). In fact > most "new things" that one

Re: another look at release-critical bugs: lpr

1998-06-12 Thread Adam Klein
On Fri, Jun 12, 1998 at 12:56:42PM +0200, Paul Slootman wrote: > On Wed 03 Jun 1998, Craig Sanders wrote: > > On Sat, 30 May 1998, Jay Wardle wrote: > > > > > [...Raul wrote...] > > > > If this can't be fixed easily, perhaps we ought to promote lprng to > > > > standard and demote lpr to optional.

Re: ssl browsers

1998-06-12 Thread Tommi Virtanen
On Thu, Jun 11, 1998 at 03:37:11PM +0100, Luis Francisco Gonzalez wrote: > I wanted to know what ssl-enabled browsers we have in debian now. Also > does anybody know if ftps:// is a valid URL for ssl-enabled ftp? fortify (in non-US) can patch Netscapes to support reasonable crypto.

Re: ssl browsers

1998-06-12 Thread Tim Sailer
On Fri, Jun 12, 1998 at 08:47:37PM +0300, Tommi Virtanen wrote: > On Thu, Jun 11, 1998 at 03:37:11PM +0100, Luis Francisco Gonzalez wrote: > > I wanted to know what ssl-enabled browsers we have in debian now. Also > > does anybody know if ftps:// is a valid URL for ssl-enabled ftp? > > forti

Re: joilet fs for official cdrom

1998-06-12 Thread Ben Gertzfield
> "Thomas" == Thomas Hohenberger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Thomas> I followed the discussion above. I have two SuSE Linux Thomas> 2.0.33/2.0.34 systems. The first system has my cdrecorder Thomas> attached. I patched this one with the Joliet patch and a Thomas> 2k blocksize p

Re: joilet fs for official cdrom

1998-06-12 Thread Ben Gertzfield
> "Philip" == Philip Hands <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >> [EMAIL PROTECTED] is the right place for this. Philip> Philip> Don't you mean: Philip> [EMAIL PROTECTED] No, [EMAIL PROTECTED] is a separate mailing list just for CD burning software under

Re: Propersel for standerd configuration system.

1998-06-12 Thread Dan Jacobowitz
Now, don't get me wrong...I hate windows registries just as badly as anyone else, and I've been using linuxconf on and off for ages. But this has one darn good idea to it: many programs using the same data source. For instance, I just installed this machine with one hostname before realizing that

Re: The Hamm Bugs Stamp-Out List

1998-06-12 Thread Michael Stone
Quoting Adam P. Harris ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): > I know there were a few cyrix-specific fixes introduced in 2.0.34. > Maybe some of the people experiencing this problem might test it out > with that kernel? That might push out to definately try to get 2.0.34 > in for hamm release. (Although AFAIK, i

RE: ISDN driver support

1998-06-12 Thread Jaakko Niemi
>> > Hi, >> > >> > My name is Peter Hum and I am a program manager at Eicon Technology. We >> > are currently in the process of porting our driver for our ISDN PRI/BRI >> > adapter into Linux. I would like to know we can have this driver >> > integrated into your next release of the kernel. Hi

Re: Propersel for standerd configuration system.

1998-06-12 Thread Raul Miller
Dan Jacobowitz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Now, don't get me wrong...I hate windows registries just as badly as > anyone else, and I've been using linuxconf on and off for ages. But > this has one darn good idea to it: many programs using the same data > source. For instance, I just installed th

Re: Propersel for standerd configuration system.

1998-06-12 Thread sjc
On Fri, Jun 12, 1998 at 12:29:41PM -0400, Kevin Atkinson wrote: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > > On Fri, Jun 12, 1998 at 12:23:28AM -0400, Kevin Atkinson wrote: > > > Second off > data will be regually exported to text based backup files (say like > every hour) so if something goes wrong it ca

Re: VI reasons (was Re: Base Set: Suggested additions & removals.)

1998-06-12 Thread Marcus Brinkmann
On Wed, Jun 10, 1998 at 03:38:59PM -0400, Dale Scheetz wrote: > If vi would fit on the rescue disk, do you think we would be discussing > ae? > > To be able to do an install with the rescue disk the space priorities > don't allow anything but ae in that environment. When you can get vi's > binary

Re: VI reasons (was Re: Base Set: Suggested additions & removals.)

1998-06-12 Thread Raul Miller
Marcus Brinkmann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > "DEBIAN: Sorry, you need a ph.d. in computer science, 10-year-experience > in unix system administration or a good handbook on the obscure "vi" program > before you can edit a file during installation process. > Don't even think of installing it." Er..

Re: VI reasons (was Re: Base Set: Suggested additions & removals.)

1998-06-12 Thread Marcus Brinkmann
On Fri, Jun 12, 1998 at 02:41:56PM -0400, Raul Miller wrote: > Marcus Brinkmann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > "DEBIAN: Sorry, you need a ph.d. in computer science, 10-year-experience > > in unix system administration or a good handbook on the obscure "vi" program > > before you can edit a file dur

About 2.0.34 not being perfect

1998-06-12 Thread Yann Dirson
"There's always one more bug" I got it. At least, I got one... Adam P. Harris writes: > I know there were a few cyrix-specific fixes introduced in 2.0.34. > Maybe some of the people experiencing this problem might test it out > with that kernel? That might push out to definately try to get 2.

Re: RFC: packaging kernel modules

1998-06-12 Thread Wichert Akkerman
Previously Jason Gunthorpe wrote: > That's exactly what it means. As Wichert pointed out, you need PCI for > ALSA to work - period. If you don't want PCI then you must hack alsa. I'll add some checking to the postinst of ALSA to check for PCI support in the kernel and warn if it isn't there. > I

Re: About 2.0.34 not being perfect

1998-06-12 Thread Raul Miller
Yann Dirson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hm, be careful with 2.0.34... Sounds like it should go in extra, for now. -- Raul -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Problems with javalex

1998-06-12 Thread Martin Schulze
Hi folks, I was trying to fix that javalex package lately but failed constantly. I don't speak any Java at all, this could be a reason. I'd like to receive some help. The program gets called with the following command /usr/bin/java JavaLex.Main $* The main problem is that there is no JavaLe

Re: About 2.0.34 not being perfect

1998-06-12 Thread Miquel van Smoorenburg
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Raul Miller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >Yann Dirson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> Hm, be careful with 2.0.34... > >Sounds like it should go in extra, for now. OTOH our news server didn't survive longer then a day with 2.0.[0-3] and runs rockstable with 2.0.34 ...

Re: Security problem - inetd.conf has rsh/rlogin/rexec "ON" as a default

1998-06-12 Thread Joel Klecker
At 06:34 -0700 1998-06-11, Amos Shapira wrote: >I do a lot of remote administration too (actually, almost exclusively) >using ssh. I know that ssh is not freely distributable with debian >(due to the crypto limitations) It isn't just the crypto, ssh isn't DFSG free either. -- Joel "Espy" Klecker

Re: Intent to package: webalizer

1998-06-12 Thread Joel Klecker
At 13:39 -0700 1998-06-10, Remco van de Meent wrote: >Hey, > >I'm currently applying for being a Debian maintainer (using the Debian >Developer's Reference). > >I created a package of the Webalizer software: > >Package: webalizer >Status: install ok installed >Installed-Size: 108 >Maintainer: Remco