On Wed, 22 Apr 1998, Dale Scheetz wrote:
> /bin/sh is provided by bash, but doesn't come with its own man page.
>
> How does one determine the differences between sh and bash?
>
> Is there some documentation that I have missed?
It's a link:
$ ls -al /bin/sh
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root
> "Martin" == Martin Schulze <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>> Of course I could have just put both feet in my mouth too
Martin> Thing is that bash behaves different if called as sh or
Martin> bash.
You mean I was right about my feet? Cool! :)
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In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> you wrote:
> On Sat, 18 Apr 1998, Herbert Xu wrote:
>> This should work:
>>
>> static int wait_or_timeout_retval = -1;
>>
>> static void alarm_handler(int sig) {
>> errno = ETIMEDOUT;
>> }
>>
>> int wait_or_timeout (int *status) {
>> struct sigaction act
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> you wrote:
> On Tue, 21 Apr 1998, matthew.r.pavlovich.1 wrote:
>> xdm-shadow is already available.
> Yes, and I am using it. But the question is, does it support the "pri=",
> "umask=" and "ulimit=" fields in /etc/passwd? And do cron and at also
> know about these f
On Thu, 23 Apr 1998, Herbert Xu wrote:
> In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> you wrote:
> > On Tue, 21 Apr 1998, matthew.r.pavlovich.1 wrote:
>
> >> xdm-shadow is already available.
>
> > Yes, and I am using it. But the question is, does it support the "pri=",
> > "umask=" and "ulimit=" fields in /et
On Wed, Apr 22, 1998 at 06:27:03PM -0400, Raul Miller wrote:
> > I'm pretty sure that a program must be either entirely GPLed,
> > or contain no GPLed parts.
>
> More precisely, the non-gpled parts must not have terms which prevent
> compliance with the gpled parts.
Uhh, the GPL does not state
> >>Anyway, could you explain to me how this advertising clause is so
> harmful?
> >
> > See http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/bsd.html.
>
> Ok, this helps. I am still at a loss why we mention BSD as one of the "free"
> licenses in DFSG, and have no mention of this problem there. I'll try to
Hi,
>>"Carl" == Carl Mummert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
Carl> Joey Hess wrote:
>> > I would also find it disorienting to less a binary executable and
>> get a long list of identifiers. I _expect_ a screen full of
>> garbage, and that "/lib/ld-linux.so.2" in a particular position :-)
Carl> What
> If you ask RMS, MANY licenses are not "free enough", including BSD,
> Artistic, and others. DFSG is not free enough for him, yet you can do
> more with one of the other licenses. Interesting how that works out.
>
> RMS is pushing an ideal more than anything.
>
Please don't get into an argument
Hi,
The emacsen problem is due to the fact that as distributed,
elib is buggy. If you remove elib (which also nukes cvs-pvl ;-(),
emacsen-common +emacs20 shall work.
emacs18 is also present in Incoming now, and has the same
problem with elib (I locally hacked the Makefile to ma
Enrique Zanardi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Wouldn't it be enough to make dpkg-perl predepend on perl-base instead of
> the whole perl? Or does it need some functionality not provided in
> perl-base?
If dpkg-perl depended on perl-base instead of perl, the problem would
disappear. However I don'
Another thing that caused trouble when I tried installing from the base
disks (1998-04-11) yesterday was a libfdisk error that prevented dinstall
from detecting that a swap partition had been created. An error message
was printed before returning to the dinstall menu, and it came from this
section
On 22 Apr 1998, Brederlow wrote:
> > request, how about if no -F is given, use argv[0]. So a hard link to
> > xpenguin gets the debian chap, etc...
>
> A softlink would do. You can try it with gzip, gunzip, unzip and
> zcat.
Off course, that's what I wanted to write :). It's done now. But the
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>One reason I like less is that it's so fast. I sometimes use it on
>thousands of files at once. (For example, when searching a source
>package for uses of a particular identifier).
I've been thin
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Carl Mummert, in an immanent manifestation of deity, wrote:
>useful information when you use it on different types of files-- gzip for
>gz files, tar -t for tar files, groff for manpages, etc... If I _wanted_
>to look at the raw data of a gzipped file, I could d
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Manoj Srivastava, in an immanent manifestation of deity, wrote:
> know how to do so. From the principle of least surprise, I say leave
> the default alone (I hate how it does tar zvvft already; I used to be
> able to look at text files in a tar.gz archive without
As far as I can tell this license is DFSG-free; please let me know if you
disagree.
Copyright (c) 1997-1998 by Armin Biere.
Author: Armin Biere.
Permission is granted to anyone to use this software for any
purpose on any computer system, and to redistribute it freely,
subject to the following r
On Thu, Apr 23, 1998 at 04:07:13PM +1000, Martin Mitchell wrote:
> Another thing that caused trouble when I tried installing from the base
> disks (1998-04-11) yesterday was a libfdisk error that prevented dinstall
> from detecting that a swap partition had been created. An error message
> was prin
> I was receiving the message "error reading sector 0" all the time,
> but cfdisk handled the partitioning just fine, so I expect this is a
> problem in libfdisk or dinstall somewhere.
That's really strange, since the message is about a real read error.
Is something special about the disk or the
Alex Romosan wrote in PM (hope you can copy with posting this single
line to the list :):
> hi andreas, please find included the penguin pixmaps. thanks
Thank you very much. I've included it in my xteddy Debian
package which is available under
ftp://bridge.physik.uni-halle.de/pub/debian-
Hi,
>>"Darren" == Darren Stalder <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
Darren> Uh, Manoj, if you don't want less to interpret things for,
Darren> just don't use lessopen. If you still want to use it, you can
Darren> just edit the lessopen script.
I know that. The accepted way of using less used t
On Thu, 23 Apr 1998, Herbert Xu wrote:
> In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> you wrote:
> > On Sat, 18 Apr 1998, Herbert Xu wrote:
> >> This should work:
> >>
> >> static int wait_or_timeout_retval = -1;
> >>
> >> static void alarm_handler(int sig) {
> >>errno = ETIMEDOUT;
> >> }
> >>
> >> int
Igor Grobman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Am I correct that this clause doesn't make software really non-free
> (DFSG definition)?
Yes. To quote from the DFSG itself:
| 10. Example Licenses
|The "GPL", "BSD", and "Artistic" licenses are examples of licenses
|that we consider
> if you implement "interruptible" system calls this way: 1. UNBLOCK
> SIGNAL 2. SYSTEM CALL 3. BLOCK SIGNAL it may happen that the signal
> handler is called just after unblocking the signal but before the
> call. this way no EINTR happens, the signal is lost and (2) is stuck
> in the system call
Roderick Schertler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> On 21 Apr 1998 08:55:51 -0700, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Karl M. Hegbloom) said:
> >
> >> It's just a silly bug. It calls that code from some scripts which
> >> have fd0 dup'd elsewhere, so isatty(0) is false and getlogin() fails.
> >
> > Will someone p
Martin Schulze <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Thing is that bash behaves different if called as sh or bash.
Yes, find the section in the manpage that starts, "If bash is invoked
with the name sh, it tries to mimic the".
Guy
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In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> you wrote:
> I maintain the mesa package. As no packages (before this) depended on
> a libc5 version of mesa, I stopped including them. Adding them back
> seems like a step backwards. It would be much better if you could
> get blender recompiled with libc6 based libs.
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> you wrote:
> I checked, Debian and Red Hat were not compatible. (e.g. libpng and
> libjpeg have different sonames.)
How did this happen? Shouldn't we try to rectify this ASAP so that there is
binary compatibility?
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In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> you wrote:
> /bin/sh is provided by bash, but doesn't come with its own man page.
> How does one determine the differences between sh and bash?
> Is there some documentation that I have missed?
/usr/doc/bash/POSIX.NOTES.gz.
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Hello,
when using /usr/bin/build from the devscripts package I get a lot
of Warnings
...
no utmp entry available, using value of LOGNAME ("e2od5") at
/usr/lib/dpkg/controllib.pl line 16.
...
How to suppress this more precisely how to make a valid "utmp entry"
because my LOGNAME shouldn't be used
On Mon, 20 Apr 1998, Alexey Marinichev wrote:
> Anyway, I do not think we should have X support compiled in
> vim, rather it should be a different package or something like
> that. It's pretty bad debian policy forbids it.
Do like I do with wmaker: compile several binaries[1]. One with
X, one w
Andreas Tille <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> On 22 Apr 1998, Brederlow wrote:
>
> > > request, how about if no -F is given, use argv[0]. So a hard link to
> > > xpenguin gets the debian chap, etc...
> >
> > A softlink would do. You can try it with gzip, gunzip, unzip and
> > zcat.
> Off course,
On 23 Apr 1998, Brederlow wrote:
> If you have more than one file, as this is the case, its a good idea
> to have a subdir like netscape or xemacs has.
> All files should thus be in $HOME/.xteddy/.
What about an ENVIRONMENT variable
XTEDDY=$HOME/.xteddy/
for you and
XTEDDY=/
for all who do
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> merge 2
Hi,
Did you really mean 18 or is that a typo for 19?
Is it going to hamm or slink? It seems to me that emacs19 should
be in 2.0, but the release policy would seem to require it to go in
slink.
Bob
Manoj Srivastava <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> emacs18 is also present in Incomi
When we discussed directory locations several weeks ago, I said I
would wait for some policy statements about the FHS. After looking at
how much is already in /usr/share, I have changed my mind and now
agree with you. I am almost finished with my dictionary packages, and
have built them to g
On Thu, Apr 23, 1998 at 09:53:54AM +0200, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> As far as I can tell this license is DFSG-free; please let me know if you
> disagree.
This is weird, especially because of point 3. He means the right thing, but
he doesn't mention modification, redistribution of modificated vers
On 23 Apr 1998 04:56:12 -0700, Guy Maor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said:
> Roderick Schertler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>>
>> getlogin() is supposed to work even if isatty(0) is false. It is bug
>> #17528.
>
> How can it? If isatty() is false, then ttyname(3) is null, so
> getlogin() can't look up t
Enrique Zanardi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Was your swap partition a logical partition? libfdisk had a bug reading
> extended partitions in big disks. A fixed libfdisk will be included in next
> boot-floppies release.
Yes, it was a logical partition. It seems this problem is well known now.
Roman Hodek <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> > I was receiving the message "error reading sector 0" all the time,
> > but cfdisk handled the partitioning just fine, so I expect this is a
> > problem in libfdisk or dinstall somewhere.
>
> That's really strange, since the message is about a real read
On Wed, 22 Apr 1998 02:41:27 +0200 Remco Blaakmeer wrote:
> On 21 Apr 1998, Guy Maor wrote:
[at, cron etc and priorities]
> I am not really a programer, but I wonder how hard it would be to put
> support for these fields in all programs like login, xdm, cron, at and
> anything I am forgetting. Coul
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I have been getting bounced mail from the testing mailing list sent to Dan
Quinlan. Can anyone verify that he has indeed left the project, or give me
a new address for him?
Thanks,
Dwarf
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Since ae has been converted to slang I have been having many problems with
the keybindings for ae.
When it was compiled against ncurses, the terminfo config files worked
fine with entries like:
.cursor_up $(kcuu1)
Which the termcap equivalent should be:
.cursor_up $(ku)
Except it doesn
In an attempt to save the world from disaster, Manoj Srivastava wrote:
> Hi,
> >>"Ian" == Ian Jackson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
> Ian> I think noone, even humans, should type `echo blah > /tmp/junk'.
> Ian> Make a directory named after your userid, or use your home
> Ian> directory, or somethi
On Thu, 23 Apr 1998, Roman Hodek wrote:
>
> > if you implement "interruptible" system calls this way: 1. UNBLOCK
> > SIGNAL 2. SYSTEM CALL 3. BLOCK SIGNAL it may happen that the signal
> > handler is called just after unblocking the signal but before the
> > call. this way no EINTR happens, the s
Marcus Brinkmann wrote:
>On Thu, Apr 23, 1998 at 09:53:54AM +0200, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>> As far as I can tell this license is DFSG-free; please let me know if you
>> disagree.
>
>This is weird, especially because of point 3. He means the right thing, but
>he doesn't mention modifi
Inspired by your cute reboot/halt button hack, I added it plus a
little background color to my own xdm. Everyone here is pretty happy
with the result.
--BAP.
Added to the bottom of /etc/X11/xdm/Xsetup_0
# reboot button
/usr/bin/wish < /var/run/xdmbutt
On Thu, Apr 23, 1998 at 06:20:21PM +0200, Oliver Elphick wrote:
> Marcus Brinkmann wrote:
> >On Thu, Apr 23, 1998 at 09:53:54AM +0200, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> >> As far as I can tell this license is DFSG-free; please let me know if you
> >> disagree.
> >
> >This is weird, especially be
Hi,
That's caused by a bug in the scripts (or possibly libc6), and there is
probably nothing wrong with your utmp. look up the thread "weird
utmp/perl problem" in the archives. When it is fixed, it still will not
do what you want, I think, because even if it does find the utmp entry, it
will use
On Thu, 23 Apr 1998, Bob Hilliard wrote:
> When we discussed directory locations several weeks ago, I said I
> would wait for some policy statements about the FHS. After looking at
> how much is already in /usr/share, I have changed my mind and now
> agree with you. I am almost finished wit
> Subject: Re: Anyone want to make a Debian XDM login screen?
> Date: Thu, 23 Apr 1998 11:21:52 -0600 (MDT)
> From: Barak Pearlmutter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "David A. van Leeuwen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> CC: debian-devel@lists.debian.org
>
> Inspired by your cute reboot/halt button hack, I added i
Hi,
I need to find FTP Tracking software for our linux server and am having
trouble finding anything to fit the bill, can you help?
The actual request I received was to be able to:
1) Directory access for organizing files remotely (from win95 pc's)
2) FTP Tracking software.
3) password protected
On Thu, Apr 23, 1998 at 12:06:33AM -0400, James A.Treacy wrote:
> > If you ask RMS, MANY licenses are not "free enough", including BSD,
> > Artistic, and others. DFSG is not free enough for him, yet you can do
> > more with one of the other licenses. Interesting how that works out.
> >
> > RMS i
Hi,
I meant emacs19, and I think it is felt to be a bug fix
release, (not working with the other debian emacsen setup is a pretty
major bug) so it shall be in hamm (I think the release manager has
already blessed this).
manoj
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Rev. Joseph Carter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> be GPL. An example of this is ncftp which was using it--that's a nono,
> even though it is a simple shared library. In this instance, the GPL
> actually hurt ncftp.
...
> This is a limitation on the GPL I think, ...
It's a limitation of ncftp.
The
Hi,
DISCLAIMER: I am a new developer also, and my advice may not be
very good. Also I am building my packages by hand, and have never
looked at any of the helper scripts, so I can't address how to make
debstd put the files where you want them.
If I understand you correctly, you want to
Hi,
You wrote:
> PS: Should I post such kind of questions to debian-mentors?
> I'm afraid an overflow of my mailbox if I subscribe more and
> more mailing lists.
debian-mentors is relatively low volume, and will likely produce
better responses to new maintainer type questions t
On Thu, 23 Apr 1998, Raul Miller wrote:
> Rev. Joseph Carter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > be GPL. An example of this is ncftp which was using it--that's a nono,
> > even though it is a simple shared library. In this instance, the GPL
> > actually hurt ncftp.
> ...
> > This is a limitation on t
Hi,
Thanks and bravo! I'm getting tired of fighting with dselect,
which insists on replacing my emacs 19.34-13 with emacs20.
Bob
> Hi,
>
> I meant emacs19, and I think it is felt to be a bug fix
> release, (not working with the other debian emacsen setup is a pretty
> major bug) s
On Thu, Apr 23, 1998 at 03:59:18AM +0200, Remco Blaakmeer wrote:
> On Thu, 23 Apr 1998, Herbert Xu wrote:
>
> BTW, about the issue of programs breaking on 50 out of the 100 different
> systems they normally run on: can't this be solved by some smart #ifdef's
> in the code? I'd think that if you wr
On Thu, Apr 23, 1998 at 12:49:43AM -0700, Darren/Torin/Who Ever... wrote:
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>
> >This seems like a bad idea. "strings" is not the obvious information
> >to provide about an executable. (Consider size, objdump, od, hexdump,
> >et cetera).
>
> Okay. Sounds goo
Hi,
>>"Rev" == Rev Joseph Carter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
Rev> It does that, but sometimes that is not always a good thing.
Rev> Take for example the libreadline library. It is GPL, not LGPL.
Rev> In order to link this library which is somewhat standard (IMO at
Rev> least) your software must b
At 22:29 +1000 1998-04-23, Herbert Xu wrote:
>In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> you wrote:
>> I checked, Debian and Red Hat were not compatible. (e.g. libpng and
>> libjpeg have different sonames.)
>
>How did this happen?
2 is the upstream soname for libpng 1.0, so we are doing the right thing there
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