Re: source packaging format (was Re: Questions about plans for Emacs 20...)

1998-04-08 Thread Falk Hueffner
On Sun, 5 Apr 1998 22:43:28 +0100, Enrique Zanardi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >Well, it's not broken, but we have no way to use pristine sources with >multiple-tar packages, so it may be improved (and it should). And there are *still* no source dependencies yet... Are there any plans about this i

Re: Immutable flag and packages

1998-04-08 Thread bear
> 1) Newbie will ask "why I can't removed file X? I do all that they say > in the *Linux is Great - 101 Book* (hoping not to enfrange any > copyright here). Probaby not just newbies. :-) > 2) If, as a SysAdmin, I decided to put some file immutable, I > certainly don't want a program like dpkg (w

Re: [?] egcs increases C++ binary size dramatically

1998-04-08 Thread Falk Hueffner
On Wed, 8 Apr 1998 01:01:46 +0200, Marcus Brinkmann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> It's related to the fact that egcs does exception handling - add >> -fno-exceptions to your CFLAGS, and you'll get a shorter binary. > >I think this is not the right way to think of C++ programming. If you don't >use

Re: base-files 1.6 (source all) uploaded to master

1998-04-08 Thread Avery Pennarun
On Tue, Apr 07, 1998 at 07:18:33AM -0400, Gregory S. Stark wrote: > > Anyway, I remember a Slackware trick to set the default prompt for many > > different shells. Could not we do the same? > > Am I the only one who thinks the only correct prompts would be '$ ' and '# > '? I hope so. I know pro

Re: Why isn't /bin/sh managed with alternatives?

1998-04-08 Thread Robert Woodcock
On Sun, April 5, Shaleh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > My assumption is that /bin/sh is VERY important to the system. All > server scripts use it. A dangling symlink could be hazardous. Also, > some systems initially mount only certain directories. And /etc is > sometimes on a different partition

Re: base-files 1.6 (source all) uploaded to master

1998-04-08 Thread James R. Van Zandt
>However, I'm willing to set default root's prompt in base-files to >'\h:\w\$ ' if enough people prefer it to '[EMAIL PROTECTED]:\w\$ '. I would prefer '\h:\w\$ ' - Jim Van Zandt -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trou

sleep contains crypto stuff?

1998-04-08 Thread Martin Schulze
Howdy, could anybode explain this to me? kuolema!root(ttyp0):/tmp/initrd# ldd /bin/sleep libcrypt.so.1 => /lib/libcrypt.so.1 (0x4000f000) libc.so.6 => /lib/libc.so.6 (0x4003c000) /lib/ld-linux.so.2 => /lib/ld-linux.so.2 (0x4000) kuolema!root(ttyp0):/tmp/initrd# dpkg -l

Is my hard drive FUBAR, or is it dpkg?

1998-04-08 Thread Ben Gertzfield
I've started getting messages like the following from upgrading packages: Do you want to install the files fetched [y]: Installing files... (Reading database ... 28597 files and directories currently installed.) Preparing to replace xbase 3.3.2-2 (using .../x11/xbase_3.3.2-3.deb) ... xdm and xfs n

Re: Is my hard drive FUBAR, or is it dpkg?

1998-04-08 Thread Ben Pfaff
I noticed in /var/log/kernel.log that there are lots of messages like the following: Free blocks count corrupted for block group 17 Apr 7 18:57:49 everybody kernel: EXT2-fs error (device 03:02): ext2_new_block: Free blocks count corrupted for block group 17 Apr 7 18:58:22 ever

Re: Why isn't /bin/sh managed with alternatives?

1998-04-08 Thread James LewisMoss
> On Tue, 7 Apr 1998 18:18:57 -0700 (PDT), Robert Woodcock <[EMAIL > PROTECTED]> said: Robert> On Sun, April 5, Shaleh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> My assumption is that /bin/sh is VERY important to the system. >> All server scripts use it. A dangling symlink could be hazardous. >>

Re: Is my hard drive FUBAR, or is it dpkg?

1998-04-08 Thread Martin Schulze
Ben Gertzfield writes: > I've started getting messages like the following from upgrading > packages: > > Do you want to install the files fetched [y]: > Installing files... > (Reading database ... 28597 files and directories currently installed.) > Preparing to replace xbase 3.3.2-2 (using .../x11

Re: was default prompt debate - system defaults

1998-04-08 Thread Manoj Srivastava
Hi, >>"David" == David Welton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: David> If we won't even set a default prompt, what business do we have David> doing things like: [Setting up IP spoofing protection...] Well, maybe we are closer to achieving a consensus about what one should do wrt ip spoofing,

Re: http mirror (was Re: New APT Version)

1998-04-08 Thread Anand Kumria
On Tue, 7 Apr 1998, Steve Hsieh wrote: > On 5 Apr 1998, Jason Gunthorpe wrote: > > > > Oh I'm all for switching to HTTP. Can we convince all our mirrors to > > > switch? > > > > I'm going through the mirror list and building a sources.list of all the > > possible sources. I have 8 sites already >

Re: base-files 1.6 (source all) uploaded to master

1998-04-08 Thread Guy Maor
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Gregory S. Stark) writes: > Am I the only one who thinks the only correct prompts would be '$ ' and '# '? > > Barring that I suggest leaving the defaults, 'bash$' et. al. You're not the only one. I also prefer to leave the defaults. Any prompt in /etc/profile would be overri

Re: was default prompt debate - system defaults

1998-04-08 Thread David Welton
On Tue, Apr 07, 1998 at 10:24:42PM -0500, Manoj Srivastava wrote: > Hi, > >>"David" == David Welton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > David> If we won't even set a default prompt, what business do we have > David> doing things like: > [Setting up IP spoofing protection...] > > Well, maybe we

does not support iso9660

1998-04-08 Thread omill
I need some advice in installing Debian 1.3. I have booted the machine with a SCSI bus V30PCI using a rescue floppy. The hard disk and a NEC cdrom were recognized without any problem. Then I followed all installation instructions. After I booted Linux, I ran dselect but I

Re: Why isn't /bin/sh managed with alternatives?

1998-04-08 Thread Adam Heath
On Tue, 7 Apr 1998, Robert Woodcock wrote: > Another idea I got on IRC was providing a --background flag to > start-stop-daemon so that daemons could be started in parallel - this > might have quite an effect on SMP systems, and DNS misconfigs would be > more treatable if sendmail started in the b

policy about Qmail's Maildir support?

1998-04-08 Thread Amos Shapira
Hello, Looking for support for Qmail's maildir format in Debian packages, I came up with empty hands. Would it be possible to add this to the debian policy to have Maildir support in packages like mailx, pine and imapd? Is there another mechanism to make debian support this format? Thanks, --A

Re: Questions for maintaining several packages

1998-04-08 Thread Andreas Tille
On Tue, 7 Apr 1998, Alex Romosan wrote: > you can get an xteddy debian package by anonymous ftp from > caliban.lbl.gov in /pub/debian. i am happy to see this finally become > part of the distribution. OK, I've finished building an xteddy Debian Package and I'll take over maintainance when finished

Re: Questions for maintaining several packages

1998-04-08 Thread Andreas Tille
On Tue, 7 Apr 1998, Bob Hilliard wrote: > I have been working on this, and expect to release this package > soon. (Actually, it is two binary packages from one source.) > > wordnet (which you mentioned in your message) is one of the 7 > dictionary databases made available by the DICT g

Re: policy about Qmail's Maildir support?

1998-04-08 Thread jdassen
On Wed, Apr 08, 1998 at 09:43:08AM +0300, Amos Shapira wrote: > Looking for support for Qmail's maildir format in Debian packages, I came > up with empty hands. Look more closely. Mutt handles maildir. > Would it be possible to add this to the debian policy to have Maildir > support in packages l

Re: policy about Qmail's Maildir support?

1998-04-08 Thread Jason Gunthorpe
On Wed, 8 Apr 1998 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > Would it be possible to add this to the debian policy to have Maildir > > support in packages like mailx, pine and imapd? > > AFAIK there is no DFSG-free MTA that supports Maildir. Therefore I don't > think that Maildir support should be obligatory

Re: does not support iso9660

1998-04-08 Thread Paul Slootman
On Tue 07 Apr 1998, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > After I booted Linux, I ran dselect but I got an error > during mounting a CD: > mount -t iso9660 /dev/sda /cdrom SCSI cdrom devices are /dev/scd0, /dev/scd1, ... Also -oro (for readonly) should be given, else you might get a w

HEALTH WARNING: bash_2.01.1-1 dies on install

1998-04-08 Thread Philip Hands
Hi folks, This has been reported as a bug (#20572), but since it passed me by, I thought I'd mention it here and save people some aggravation. bash_2.01.1-1 is lacking a pre-depends on libreadlineg2_2.1-8, and will start segfaulting if you just let dselect do an upgrade, which kills all subseq

Re: policy about Qmail's Maildir support?

1998-04-08 Thread jdassen
On Thu, Apr 09, 1998 at 01:47:53AM -0600, Jason Gunthorpe wrote: > On Wed, 8 Apr 1998 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > AFAIK there is no DFSG-free MTA that supports Maildir. Therefore I don't > > think that Maildir support should be obligatory via Debian policy. > > Exim does. In that case I'm in fav

Re: policy about Qmail's Maildir support?

1998-04-08 Thread Amos Shapira
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > On Wed, Apr 08, 1998 at 09:43:08AM +0300, Amos Shapira wrote: > > Looking for support for Qmail's maildir format in Debian packages, I came > > up with empty hands. > > Look more closely. Mutt handles maildir. Thanks. > > Would it be possible to add this to the debi

Processed: foo

1998-04-08 Thread Ian Jackson
Processing commands for [EMAIL PROTECTED]: > reassign 20739 xbase Bug#20739: xbase: Buffer overruns in xterm Bug assigned to package `xbase'. > reassign 20740 xbase Bug#20740: xbase: TIOCSLTC in xterm on alpha Bug assigned to package `xbase'. > reassign 20741 xserver-vga16 Bug#20741: xserver-vga

in.ftpd refused to show directory

1998-04-08 Thread Andreas Tille
Hello, yesterday I updated all my installed hamm files. However, the following error occured in former times, too. If I login on my local the ftp server ftp://bridge.physik.uni-halle.de I can't get any directory information via `dir` or `ls` command. I can switch directories (`cd pub`

in.ftpd refused to show directory (addition)

1998-04-08 Thread Andreas Tille
I installed wu-ftpd now, but all is the same :-((( I want to make some files available (my prepackaged Debian files) but I'm affraid that potential downloaders will be confused by this behaviour. Please help Andreas. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "

Re: in.ftpd refused to show directory

1998-04-08 Thread Joop
> Hello, > > yesterday I updated all my installed hamm files. However, the following > error occured in former times, too. > > If I login on my local the ftp server > > ftp://bridge.physik.uni-halle.de > > I can't get any directory information via `dir` or `ls` command. > I can switch

Re: 19980407 Work-Needing and Prospective Packages

1998-04-08 Thread Christoph Martin
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > >Packages someone could package for Debian 2.1 > * A pdftex package, for a version of TeX/LaTeX which directly >generates PDF. > pdftex is a part of tetex-0.9 which just made its way to master. Christoph -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email

Re: base-files 1.6 (source all) uploaded to master

1998-04-08 Thread Riku Voipio
On Tue, Apr 07, 1998 at 08:39:40PM -0700, Guy Maor wrote: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Gregory S. Stark) writes: > > Am I the only one who thinks the only correct prompts would be '$ ' and '# > > '? > > Barring that I suggest leaving the defaults, 'bash$' et. al. > You're not the only one. I also pref

Re: package pre-selections tool

1998-04-08 Thread Charles Briscoe-Smith
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Steve Dunham <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: [...] >Finally, it installs all the selected packages without asking the user >20 times in a row if they prefer XV (or which dictionary they prefer). [...] >(The dictionary issue isn't as important since fewer people install >E

Re: [?] egcs increases C++ binary size dramatically

1998-04-08 Thread Amos Shapira
On Wed, Apr 08, 1998 at 01:01:46AM +0200, Marcus Brinkmann wrote: > However, you can give the compiler a hint that a function does not throw any > exceptions by adding throw() at the right place: > > class ABC { > ABC (int theInt) throw(); > } Shouldn't the compiler still handle eceptions in fu

Re: Questions for maintaining several packages

1998-04-08 Thread jdassen
On Tue, Apr 07, 1998 at 07:45:23PM +0200, Andreas Tille wrote: >Xteddy is a cuddly teddy bear for your X Windows desktop. It is more or >less an excersise for package bundling and maintaining. Well, you could make it a coding exercise by modifying it to be able to choose a pixmap through t

Re: Questions for maintaining several packages

1998-04-08 Thread Andreas Tille
On Wed, 8 Apr 1998 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Well, you could make it a coding exercise by modifying it to be able to > choose a pixmap through the commandline. "xpenguin" or "xcaptainblueeye" :-) Adding xpenguin is a very nice idea. I will try to include it into xteddy.deb. But who is xcaptainb

Re: Questions for maintaining several packages

1998-04-08 Thread jdassen
On Wed, Apr 08, 1998 at 02:18:07PM +0200, Andreas Tille wrote: > But who is xcaptainblueeye??? If I remember correctly, "Captain Blueeye" is the name of the entity depicted in the Debian logo. Come to think of it, xtux might be a better name than xpenguin (as the Linux Penguin is called "Tux").

Re: [?] egcs increases C++ binary size dramatically

1998-04-08 Thread Dale Martin
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Falk Hueffner) writes: > It seems that programs are larger even if they do not use exceptions > at all (possibly even C programs). For those, it seems totally > resonable to disable exceptions. It should probably even added to the > policy, since it saves space. > > Falk

lftp segfaults sometimes on filename completion

1998-04-08 Thread Remco Blaakmeer
Hi, I am having problems with lftp's filename completion. When I press , the program segfaults in a somewhat predictable manner. Does anyone have the same problem? If there are more people with this problem, should I file a bug report against lftp? I think it should at least have severity 'importa

Re: lftp segfaults sometimes on filename completion

1998-04-08 Thread jdassen
On Wed, Apr 08, 1998 at 04:20:07PM +0200, Remco Blaakmeer wrote: > I am using lftp 0.14.3.980328-1 Upgrade. >From the new changelog: lftp (0.14.3.980402-1) frozen unstable; urgency=low * New upstream release: * null dereference in rglob.cc fixed (very nasty bug! lftp was giving cor

Re: lftp segfaults sometimes on filename completion

1998-04-08 Thread Richard Braakman
Remco Blaakmeer wrote: > [...] I think it should at least have severity > 'important', so I first want to be sure that this is a real bug. It is always a bug if a program segfaults. However, I don't think this one is 'important'. I'd say the distribution is better off with lftp than without, eve

hostname resolution for libc5-compat apps

1998-04-08 Thread Thomas Gebhardt
Hi, when I start ddd (from ddd-smotif) on a remote hamm system it cannot resolve the hostname given in the DISPLAY variable: _X11TransSocketINETConnect: Can't get address for pcrz64 If I set the DISPLAY to the IP address, it is ok. Other X11 applications don't show this problem. I argue that

Re: in.ftpd refused to show directory (addition)

1998-04-08 Thread tibor simko
> "andreas" == Andreas Tille <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: andreas> I installed wu-ftpd now, but all is the same :-((( running libc6 hamm/frozen, right? this is a already reported and known bug in the `addftpuser' script (see e.g. #12236, #17110, etc). the point is that the script copies l

Re: base-files 1.6 (source all) uploaded to master

1998-04-08 Thread Raul Miller
Riku Voipio <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > The point is new users. Then we should be talking about /etc/skel/, rather than /etc/profile -- Raul -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Debian Beowulf

1998-04-08 Thread aw
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Camm Maguire <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >what hardware would be best for this project. Is the Alpha >distribution ready for prime-time? What about SMP boards? We'd like >to get the most bang for our buck, but don't have the man

Re: policy about Qmail's Maildir support?

1998-04-08 Thread Jaldhar H. Vyas
On Wed, 8 Apr 1998, Amos Shapira wrote: > I was thinking more of things like IMAPD, qpopper, and the > c-client library, which have patches for maildir support > available for them, they just have to be integrated into the > "official" debian package (e.g. it looks like the procmail support > wa

Re: Questions for maintaining several packages

1998-04-08 Thread Alex Romosan
>OK, I've finished building an xteddy Debian Package and I'll take over >maintainance when finished the procedure to become an official Debian >maintainer. Did you plan to maintain XTeddy too or was your package only for >private uses. I'm not intended to catch your job ;-). good job. my xteddy

Re: Project Secretary appointed

1998-04-08 Thread Juergen Menden
Manoj Srivastava <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi, > > Does the maintainers file also contain the people on the qa > and testing teams and others who do not upload packages? no, and it does not contain the porters to the various non-intel architectures. IIRC there is a developers dat

Re: New APT Version

1998-04-08 Thread Juergen Menden
Jason Gunthorpe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > deb http://ftp.de.debian.org/debian-non-US stable/binary-i386/ ^ better use nonus.debian.org jjm -- Juergen Menden at work: [EMAIL PROTECTED] tel: +49 (89) 289 - 22387 private: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: base-files 1.6 (source all) uploaded to master

1998-04-08 Thread Santiago Vila
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- On Wed, 8 Apr 1998, Raul Miller wrote: > Riku Voipio <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > The point is new users. > > Then we should be talking about /etc/skel/, rather than /etc/profile Well, if we talk about /etc/skel, then we could ask: Is there any other shell

Intent to package: Quinn Diff

1998-04-08 Thread James Troup
Hi, I plan on packaging up Quinn Diff despite reservations I have, because enough people have asked me to. Quinn Diff is a program for comparing the Packages files of two architectures to see what needs recompiled on the secondary architecture. See http://thor.lib.chalmers.se/~jamest/quinn-diff

Re: source packaging format (was Re: Questions about plans for Emacs 20...)

1998-04-08 Thread Lalo Martins
On Apr 07, Falk Hueffner decided to present us with: > On Sun, 5 Apr 1998 22:43:28 +0100, Enrique Zanardi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > >Well, it's not broken, but we have no way to use pristine sources with > >multiple-tar packages, so it may be improved (and it should). > > And there are *st

Call for recommendations for the Technical Committee

1998-04-08 Thread Ian Jackson - Debian Project Leader
As I said, I want to appoint the Technical Committee. However, I would like to gather some input from the developers before I decide on my preferred committee. So: if you feel someone is technically excellent and likely otherwise to be overlooked (for example, because they've not been active very

Automation of constitutional procedures

1998-04-08 Thread Ian Jackson
James A.Treacy writes ("Re: Constitution - formal proposal (v0.6)"): > [Ian:] > > I disapprove of the idea of automation. > > > > s4.2(5): > > Proposals, seconds, amendments, calls for votes and other formal > > actions are made by announcement on a public-readable electronic > >

Re: ksymoops packaged ? System.map issues ...

1998-04-08 Thread Yann Dirson
Bernd Eckenfels writes: > If you have installed a current MAP File for the kernel (which is done > automatically by the kernel installer package), syslogd/klogd will be able > to read this and will display all Ptr references in lines from the kernel > with the resolved symbol. It doesn't conta

Aargh - no mail

1998-04-08 Thread Adrian Bridgett
I've just lost my email file (/var/spool/mail/bridgett) for some unknown reason. My sorted mail in /home/bridgett/mail/ is fine. a) Warning - backup your mail file b) has anyone else had this? A Seriously PO Adrian email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | Debian Linux - www.debian.org http://www.pobox

Intent to create sfio package

1998-04-08 Thread Dennis L. Clark
Hello everyone, This is a short note to let people know that I'm in the process of packaging the Safe/Fast I/O library, otherwise known as sfio. It provides an alternate to stdio as a C API for performing I/O. It's main claim to fame is the ability to attach filters -- known as disciplines -- to

Re: mailto:debian-devel@lists.debian.org

1998-04-08 Thread Lalo Martins
On Apr 07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] decided to present us with: > hello i was wondering if anyone knew how to cross compile from > linux for dos/win95. i wrote a lot of c code using the curses.h > library and it does not port to borland or turbo c. is there > some way i can tell gcc to compile it for

Re: sleep contains crypto stuff?

1998-04-08 Thread Vincent Renardias
On Wed, 8 Apr 1998, Martin Schulze wrote: > could anybode explain this to me? > > kuolema!root(ttyp0):/tmp/initrd# ldd /bin/sleep > libcrypt.so.1 => /lib/libcrypt.so.1 (0x4000f000) > libc.so.6 => /lib/libc.so.6 (0x4003c000) > /lib/ld-linux.so.2 => /lib/ld-linux.so.2 (0x40

Default /etc/profile

1998-04-08 Thread LeRoy D. Cressy
Hi All, I've been following the discussion on the default profile prompt. When I first loaded Linux on my system I used a Slackware version packaged with a book a couple of years ago. Though Slackware had no upgradability at the time, I switched debian. But I noticed that Slackware provided fo

new packages

1998-04-08 Thread Alex Romosan
i finally got around to applying to become a debian developer. so i want to announce here my intention to package the following programs: f77reorder f77 compiler script calling f2c/gcc. Handles some fortran 77 extensions by calling f77reorder to change the code. vat The LBNL audio tool, v

Re: Automation of constitutional procedures

1998-04-08 Thread James A . Treacy
> This is precisely the aspect I disagree with. There are a number of > problems with this kind of thing. > > Firstly, with an automated system developers' abilities to do things > will be dependent on the bot's interpretation of what is allowed - the > bot becomes the governor of the procedure r

dinstall and PGP

1998-04-08 Thread Marco d'Itri
Can someone hack dinstall to install packages which are not PGP signed but has been copied to incoming? If the UID of the files is the one of a developer we can know who did upload the package. -- ciao, Marco -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble

I18N (was Re: package pre-selections tool)

1998-04-08 Thread David Frey
On Tue, 07 Apr 1998 08:22:55 -0600 Anthony Fok wrote: > ( ) I18N/L10N (?) -- packages for the world. :-) > * European languages > * Japanese packages (kon2, wnn, emacs20-mule (?), canna, kterm, > doc-jp-linux, etc.) > * Chinese packages (xcin, xfntbig5p-cmex24m, doc-zh-l

Re: dinstall and PGP

1998-04-08 Thread Enrique Zanardi
On Wed, Apr 08, 1998 at 08:23:48PM +0200, Marco d'Itri wrote: > Can someone hack dinstall to install packages which are not PGP signed > but has been copied to incoming? If the UID of the files is the one of a > developer we can know who did upload the package. No. We know which account the upload

Re: dinstall and PGP

1998-04-08 Thread Vincent Renardias
On Wed, 8 Apr 1998, Marco d'Itri wrote: > Can someone hack dinstall to install packages which are not PGP signed > but has been copied to incoming? If the UID of the files is the one of a > developer we can know who did upload the package. Definatly not an option, since people uploading anonymou

Aiding the constitutional procedure [was Re: Automation of the constitutional procedure]

1998-04-08 Thread James A . Treacy
When you have been through hundreds of meetings, one of the things you learn is that communication is extremely important. It is critical to know what people's intentions are. Critical to know what the current state of affairs are. It is the normally the job of the chair of a meeting to make decisi

egcs and libc6-dev

1998-04-08 Thread Nuno Ferreira
Is there any reason for libc6-dev to depend on gcc and not on any c-compiler ? As it is now I can't keep egcs as my only compiler without breaking dependencies. Either libc6-dev should depend on c-compiler or egcs provide gcc. Am I missing something here?? -- Nuno Ferreira [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Aargh - mail

1998-04-08 Thread Adrian Bridgett
my fault - I was messing with emacs and something went screwy. Something moved my mail spool to ~/RMAIL. Phew - while :; do echo "I *will* keep backups" ;done A relieved Adrian email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | Debian Linux - www.debian.org http://www.poboxes.com/adrian.bridgett | 2.0 relea

Re: Aiding the constitutional procedure [was Re: Automation of the constitutional procedure]

1998-04-08 Thread Dale Scheetz
On Wed, 8 Apr 1998, James A.Treacy wrote: > This seemed a natural and orderly extension of implementing the > constitution. If Ian feels that this is unacceptable for some > reason, I will make a formal amendment to the constitution > stating that it be allowed. > While I agree with the merrits

BEWARE

1998-04-08 Thread Bernd Eckenfels
Hello, the broken grep (I think it is filed as a Bug already) will do a lot of damage to your system. It will kill your Windowmanger -list if you install a Windowmanager, and it will make the /etc/X11/config not work (user-xsession). Greetings Bernd -- (OO) -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- ( .. )

NPR piece on Linux

1998-04-08 Thread Dale Scheetz
I just got a call from a friend who said they had just heard that NPR was doing a piece on Linux. It should be on right after the news, so I hope this gets through the mail server pretty fast ;-) Later, Dwarf -- _-_-_-_-_- Author of "The Debian Linux User's Guide" _-_-_-_-_-_- aka Dale Sche

Re: egcs and libc6-dev

1998-04-08 Thread Dale Scheetz
On Wed, 8 Apr 1998, Nuno Ferreira wrote: > Is there any reason for libc6-dev to depend on gcc and not on any > c-compiler ? > As it is now I can't keep egcs as my only compiler without breaking > dependencies. Either libc6-dev should depend on c-compiler or egcs provide > gcc. Am I missing some

Re: egcs and libc6-dev

1998-04-08 Thread Scott Ellis
On Wed, 8 Apr 1998, Nuno Ferreira wrote: > Is there any reason for libc6-dev to depend on gcc and not on any > c-compiler ? > As it is now I can't keep egcs as my only compiler without breaking > dependencies. Either libc6-dev should depend on c-compiler or egcs provide > gcc. Am I missing some

Re: sleep contains crypto stuff?

1998-04-08 Thread James Troup
Vincent Renardias <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: [ sleep is linked with libcrypt ] > That's weird since it's in fact linked with libcrypt, but doesn't > seem to use _any_ function/symbols from this lib: Everything in shellutils is linked with libcrpyt, build it from source and see. -- James --

Re: egcs and libc6-dev

1998-04-08 Thread Elie Rosenblum
Why should libc6-dev depend on gcc, exactly? Would it not make more sense for it to Conflict: with gcc < 2.7.2.3-1, and let the compilers duke it out for themselves? -- Elie Rosenblum That is not dead which can eternal lie, And with strange aeons even death may die. Developer / Mercenary

Re: Uploaded mc-4.1.28-1 (source i386) to master

1998-04-08 Thread Chris Fearnley
'Paul Seelig wrote:' > >-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > >Format: 1.5 >Date: Mon, 06 Apr 1998 17:23:15 +0100 >Source: mc >Binary: mc >Architecture: source i386 >Version: 4.1.28-1 >Distribution: frozen unstable >Urgency: low >Maintainer: Paul Seelig <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Description: > mc

NPR piece on Linux

1998-04-08 Thread Dale Scheetz
OK, it has played here in the East. Those of you out west still have some time to find a radio ;-) I think it is the second piece on "All Things Considered" after the news. This was a very good presentation for a public forumn. They pointed to all the right facts; talked about Linux clusters outpe

Re: NPR piece on Linux

1998-04-08 Thread Jeff Noxon
Anyone have a digitized copy of this? :) Thanks, Jeff On Wed, Apr 08, 1998 at 05:58:26PM -0400, Dale Scheetz wrote: > OK, it has played here in the East. Those of you out west still have > some time to find a radio ;-) I think it is the second piece on "All > Things Considered" after the news.

Packages depending on essential/required packages

1998-04-08 Thread Adam Heath
On Tue, 7 Apr 1998, Ben Pfaff wrote: > . >* need mktemp so depend on debianutils >= 1.8 > I notice several packages in my available file that depend on debianutils. As it is essential/required, this doesn't need to be done. This partitcular package isn't in my available yet(still in Incom

Re: NPR piece on Linux

1998-04-08 Thread Douglas Bates
Dale Scheetz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > OK, it has played here in the East. Those of you out west still have > some time to find a radio ;-) I think it is the second piece on "All > Things Considered" after the news. > > This was a very good presentation for a public forumn. They pointed to al

Re: NPR piece on Linux

1998-04-08 Thread Bdale Garbee
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> you wrote: : Anyone have a digitized copy of this? :) Look on www.npr.org later tonight. The 'current' page still has the pieces from the 7th... All the interesting stuff on NPR becomes available via RealAudio shortly after broadcast. Bdale -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, e

Re: Packages depending on essential/required packages

1998-04-08 Thread Ben Pfaff
On Tue, 7 Apr 1998, Ben Pfaff wrote: > . >* need mktemp so depend on debianutils >= 1.8 > I notice several packages in my available file that depend on debianutils. As it is essential/required, this doesn't need to be done. This partitcular package isn't in my availa

Re: [?] egcs increases C++ binary size dramatically

1998-04-08 Thread Marcus Brinkmann
On Tue, Apr 07, 1998 at 11:14:17PM +, Falk Hueffner wrote: > It seems that programs are larger even if they do not use exceptions > at all (possibly even C programs). For those, it seems totally > resonable to disable exceptions. It should probably even added to the > policy, since it saves spa

Re: [?] egcs increases C++ binary size dramatically

1998-04-08 Thread Marcus Brinkmann
On Wed, Apr 08, 1998 at 02:58:39PM +0300, Amos Shapira wrote: > On Wed, Apr 08, 1998 at 01:01:46AM +0200, Marcus Brinkmann wrote: > > However, you can give the compiler a hint that a function does not throw any > > exceptions by adding throw() at the right place: > > > > class ABC { > > ABC (int

intent to package: coda (+ copyright question)

1998-04-08 Thread Anders Hammarquist
I'm looking into packaging CMU's coda distributed filesystem. It is based on AFS, with enhancements to allow disconnected use. There are kernel drivers for it in the 2.1.x series and they are available as patches for the 2.0.x series. Seeing that there are other kernel module packages available

Re: [?] egcs increases C++ binary size dramatically

1998-04-08 Thread Jason Gunthorpe
On Thu, 9 Apr 1998, Marcus Brinkmann wrote: > Exception handling is a powerful feature, and makes other global error > strategies mostly unnecessary. Therefore the size of compiled and well > written C++ programs will not be larger than an equivalent C program. *And* > the source code will be muc

Re: Packages depending on essential/required packages

1998-04-08 Thread Jason Gunthorpe
On Wed, 8 Apr 1998, Adam Heath wrote: > There are also other packages that have dependencies on essential packages. > It was my understanding that this doesn't have to be done. There is meaning for depending on specific versions of essential packages because the package may require some new func

Re: [?] egcs increases C++ binary size dramatically

1998-04-08 Thread Marcus Brinkmann
On Thu, Apr 09, 1998 at 05:15:59PM -0600, Jason Gunthorpe wrote: > > On Thu, 9 Apr 1998, Marcus Brinkmann wrote: > > > Exception handling is a powerful feature, and makes other global error > > strategies mostly unnecessary. Therefore the size of compiled and well > > written C++ programs will no

Compiling xtide: C++ error

1998-04-08 Thread adavis
I am running a pretty much up to date hamm system with egcs g++, etc. Compiling the most recent snapshot of xtide2 (found at http://www.universe.digex.net/~dave/files) resulted in the following errors. The author of the program instantly revised the source file. I am attaching his comments. The

Re: NPR piece on Linux

1998-04-08 Thread G John Lapeyre
Just played in AZ, US. I had to listen to 50 minutes of crap about presidents and big companies ! They should have put Linux first. Stallman may be a bit of a crank, but I'd be upset too about GNU being downplayed out of existence. John Lapeyre <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Tucson

tcsh infinite loop patch

1998-04-08 Thread G John Lapeyre
I added one line to the tcsh code, which seems to fix the infinite loop problem. I sent the patch to the author and the Debian maintainer 24 hrs. ago. I expect to hear something over the next few days. Perhaps the author will make a better fix. If someone can't wait that long, m