What's next for the Debian Wiki? (was Re: wiki.d.o on a git-backed engine)

2025-01-19 Thread Jonathan Dowland
Folks, Recently a discussion on -devel branched into the topic of the Debian Wiki (the particular sub-topic was the wish from some to have a git-backed wiki). Some felt that this discussion should be moved off -devel, and others pointed out that the Wiki maintainers themselves should be made a

Re: wiki.d.o on a git-backed engine

2025-01-15 Thread Jonathan Dowland
On Wed Jan 15, 2025 at 12:37 AM GMT, Kunal Mehta wrote: Agreed 100%, the openness for editing is really what makes wikis shine. It can be hard to accept, with many of us firmly set in Git's pre-approval style PR/MR workflows, to allow anyone with an account, to just change anything, but that em

Re: wiki.d.o on a git-backed engine

2025-01-15 Thread Jonas Smedegaard
Quoting Chris Hofstaedtler (2025-01-15 11:44:19) > * Jonas Smedegaard [250115 11:40]: > > Quoting Andrej Shadura (2025-01-15 11:24:31) > > > Hello, > > > > > > On Tue, 14 Jan 2025, at 18:01, Jonas Smedegaard wrote: > > > >> >> >Then let's move to the tinker team mailinglist: > > > >> >> >https://

Re: wiki.d.o on a git-backed engine

2025-01-15 Thread Chris Hofstaedtler
* Jonas Smedegaard [250115 11:40]: > Quoting Andrej Shadura (2025-01-15 11:24:31) > > Hello, > > > > On Tue, 14 Jan 2025, at 18:01, Jonas Smedegaard wrote: > > >> >> >Then let's move to the tinker team mailinglist: > > >> >> >https://alioth-lists.debian.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/blend-tinker-d

Re: wiki.d.o on a git-backed engine

2025-01-15 Thread Jonas Smedegaard
Quoting Andrej Shadura (2025-01-15 11:24:31) > Hello, > > On Tue, 14 Jan 2025, at 18:01, Jonas Smedegaard wrote: > >> >> >Then let's move to the tinker team mailinglist: > >> >> >https://alioth-lists.debian.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/blend-tinker-devel > > > No, but that my proposal for discuss

Re: wiki.d.o on a git-backed engine

2025-01-15 Thread Andrej Shadura
Hello, On Tue, 14 Jan 2025, at 18:01, Jonas Smedegaard wrote: >> >> >Then let's move to the tinker team mailinglist: >> >> >https://alioth-lists.debian.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/blend-tinker-devel > No, but that my proposal for discussion place was so out of this earth > that you felt the need

Re: wiki.d.o on a git-backed engine

2025-01-14 Thread Kunal Mehta
Hi, On 1/13/25 17:27, Ahmad Khalifa wrote: Wikis have their own version control and they're meant for a much wider audience. I think general documentation definitely belongs on a wiki, not git. Edit, fix typo, done in 30 seconds :) Agreed 100%, the openness for editing is really what makes wi

Re: wiki.d.o on a git-backed engine

2025-01-14 Thread Jonas Smedegaard
Quoting Steve McIntyre (2025-01-14 17:27:20) > Jonas wrote: > >Quoting Steve McIntyre (2025-01-14 15:16:49) > >> Jonas wrote: > >> >Quoting Serafeim (Serafi) Zanikolas (2025-01-13 22:06:01) > >> >> > >> >> thank you for the offer but why not have the follow up in a publicly > >> >> archived list?

Re: wiki.d.o on a git-backed engine

2025-01-14 Thread Steve McIntyre
Jonas wrote: >Quoting Steve McIntyre (2025-01-14 15:16:49) >> Jonas wrote: >> >Quoting Serafeim (Serafi) Zanikolas (2025-01-13 22:06:01) >> >> >> >> thank you for the offer but why not have the follow up in a publicly >> >> archived list? happy to switch to -www, if -devel is not ideal >> > >> >Th

Re: wiki.d.o on a git-backed engine

2025-01-14 Thread Jonas Smedegaard
Quoting Steve McIntyre (2025-01-14 15:16:49) > Jonas wrote: > >Quoting Serafeim (Serafi) Zanikolas (2025-01-13 22:06:01) > >> > >> thank you for the offer but why not have the follow up in a publicly > >> archived list? happy to switch to -www, if -devel is not ideal > > > >Then let's move to the

Re: wiki.d.o on a git-backed engine

2025-01-14 Thread Steve McIntyre
Jonas wrote: >Quoting Serafeim (Serafi) Zanikolas (2025-01-13 22:06:01) >> >> thank you for the offer but why not have the follow up in a publicly >> archived list? happy to switch to -www, if -devel is not ideal > >Then let's move to the tinker team mailinglist: >https://alioth-lists.debian.net/c

Re: wiki.d.o on a git-backed engine

2025-01-14 Thread Jonathan Dowland
On Mon Jan 13, 2025 at 10:27 PM GMT, Ahmad Khalifa wrote: Wikis have their own version control and they're meant for a much wider audience. I think general documentation definitely belongs on a wiki, not git. Edit, fix typo, done in 30 seconds :) The two git-backed wikis I am familiar with (Ik

Re: wiki.d.o on a git-backed engine

2025-01-13 Thread nick black
Ahmad Khalifa left as an exercise for the reader: > Wikis have their own version control and they're meant for a much wider > audience. I think general documentation definitely belongs on a wiki, not > git. Edit, fix typo, done in 30 seconds :) there are of course wiki-git bridges, at least for Me

Re: wiki.d.o on a git-backed engine

2025-01-13 Thread Jonas Smedegaard
Quoting Jonathan Dowland (2025-01-13 23:15:35) > On Mon Jan 13, 2025 at 9:43 PM GMT, Jonas Smedegaard wrote: > > Anyone interested in discussing practicalities of migrating away from > > MoinMoin for the Debian wiki, please join the tinker mailinglist at > > https://alioth-lists.debian.net/cgi-bin/

Re: wiki.d.o on a git-backed engine

2025-01-13 Thread Jeremy Stanley
On 2025-01-13 22:27:21 + (+), Ahmad Khalifa wrote: [...] > I can't imagine there are more features in MoinMoin that can't be > migrated to MediaWiki and friends, so I want to find out what I'm > missing. Another free/libre open source software community I'm involved in migrated a fairly la

Re: wiki.d.o on a git-backed engine

2025-01-13 Thread Ahmad Khalifa
On 13/01/2025 21:43, Jonas Smedegaard wrote: Quoting Serafeim (Serafi) Zanikolas (2025-01-13 22:06:01) also, I'd think that nailing down the requirements for a new platform and for the content to be migrated (e.g. drop any pages that are >X years old) would be an important prerequisite for any t

Re: wiki.d.o on a git-backed engine

2025-01-13 Thread Jeremy Stanley
On 2025-01-13 22:43:59 +0100 (+0100), Jonas Smedegaard wrote: [...] > Anyone interested in discussing practicalities of migrating away from > MoinMoin for the Debian wiki, please join the tinker mailinglist at > https://alioth-lists.debian.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/blend-tinker-devel Out of cur

Re: wiki.d.o on a git-backed engine

2025-01-13 Thread Jonathan Dowland
On Mon Jan 13, 2025 at 9:43 PM GMT, Jonas Smedegaard wrote: Anyone interested in discussing practicalities of migrating away from MoinMoin for the Debian wiki, please join the tinker mailinglist at https://alioth-lists.debian.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/blend-tinker-devel What is "Tinker blend

Re: wiki.d.o on a git-backed engine

2025-01-13 Thread Jonas Smedegaard
Quoting Serafeim (Serafi) Zanikolas (2025-01-13 22:06:01) > On Mon Jan 13, 2025 at 12:45 AM CET, Jonas Smedegaard wrote: > > Quoting Serafeim (Serafi) Zanikolas (2025-01-12 21:54:58) > > > what would be truly amazing, imho, would be the whole wiki on git. > > > that'd allow for mass-updates, and re

wiki.d.o on a git-backed engine

2025-01-13 Thread Serafeim (Serafi) Zanikolas
hi Jonas, On Mon Jan 13, 2025 at 12:45 AM CET, Jonas Smedegaard wrote: > Hi Serafeim, and others, > > Quoting Serafeim (Serafi) Zanikolas (2025-01-12 21:54:58) > > what would be truly amazing, imho, would be the whole wiki on git. that'd > > allow > > for mass-updates, and reusing one's code (sal