Re: Re: Proposal to create unstable-proposed-updates suite for use during freeze

2021-08-20 Thread Nilesh Patra
> We already have testing-proposed-updates with a different set of rules. See > https://wiki.debian.org/TestingProposedUpdates Ah, well ofcourse I knew about this. I ended up mis-taking it with the companion suite proposed. Please excuse me for being sloppy there :D -- Sent from my Android de

Re: Proposal to create unstable-proposed-updates suite for use during freeze

2021-08-20 Thread Pirate Praveen
On 20/08/21 7:22 pm, Nilesh Patra wrote: > Well, I meant u-p-u and t-p-u as disconnected suites during freeze. Upload to > u-p-u, stuff passing there migrates to t-p-u. We already have testing-proposed-updates with a different set of rules. See https://wiki.debian.org/TestingProposedUpdates >

Re: Proposal to create unstable-proposed-updates suite for use during freeze

2021-08-20 Thread Nilesh Patra
On 20 August 2021 7:00:15 pm IST, Pirate Praveen wrote: > > >On 20/08/21 4:51 pm, Nilesh Patra wrote: >> Or, instead, if you have a u-p-u suite, and stuff that passes there migrates >> to t-p-u, >> this could be completely mitigated. > >No, that will defeat the purpose of freeze. t-p-u is tar

Re: Proposal to create unstable-proposed-updates suite for use during freeze

2021-08-20 Thread Pirate Praveen
On 20/08/21 4:51 pm, Nilesh Patra wrote: > Or, instead, if you have a u-p-u suite, and stuff that passes there migrates > to t-p-u, > this could be completely mitigated. No, that will defeat the purpose of freeze. t-p-u is targeted at testing without going via unstable. If this has to happen t

Re: Proposal to create unstable-proposed-updates suite for use during freeze

2021-08-20 Thread Nilesh Patra
On 8/20/21 3:51 PM, Stephan Lachnit wrote: > On Fri, Aug 20, 2021 at 11:03 AM Andrey Rahmatullin wrote: >> If you mean keeping unstable as is and uploading stuff for testing into >> t-p-u, that's was always called a bad idea, as nobody tests stuff in >> t-p-u. > > If you don't change anything

Re: Proposal to create unstable-proposed-updates suite for use during freeze

2021-08-20 Thread Stephan Lachnit
On Fri, Aug 20, 2021 at 11:03 AM Andrey Rahmatullin wrote: > If you mean keeping unstable as is and uploading stuff for testing into > t-p-u, that's was always called a bad idea, as nobody tests stuff in > t-p-u. If you don't change anything else, then you're right. If you enable t-p-u by default

Re: Proposal to create unstable-proposed-updates suite for use during freeze

2021-08-20 Thread Andrey Rahmatullin
tal. Using experimental > > directly is risky as it can have changes not ready for unstable also. > > Proposed solution: open unstable-proposed-updates with freeze and close it > > when freeze is lifted. The packages in this suite can migrate to testing, > > this avoids manu

Re: Proposal to create unstable-proposed-updates suite for use during freeze

2021-08-20 Thread Stephan Lachnit
directly > is risky as it can have changes not ready for unstable also. > Proposed solution: open unstable-proposed-updates with freeze and close it > when freeze is lifted. The packages in this suite can migrate to testing, > this avoids manual reuploads to unstable after freeze is li

Re: Proposal to create unstable-proposed-updates suite for use during freeze

2021-08-18 Thread Cyril Brulebois
Samuel Thibault (2021-08-18): > No. Enabling experimental in your sources.list doesn't actually change > anything. You have to explicitly request installing a given package from > experimental to pull it from experimental, and only that will be getting > updated from experimental, you won't inadve

Re: Proposal to create unstable-proposed-updates suite for use during freeze

2021-08-18 Thread Pirate Praveen
On Wed, Aug 18, 2021 at 10:14 pm, Samuel Thibault wrote: Nilesh Patra wrote: Using experimental directly is risky as it can have changes not ready for unstable also. No. Enabling experimental in your sources.list doesn't actually change anything. You have to explicitly request installing

Re: Proposal to create unstable-proposed-updates suite for use during freeze

2021-08-18 Thread Samuel Thibault
Nilesh Patra wrote: > Using experimental directly is risky as it can have changes not ready for > unstable also. No. Enabling experimental in your sources.list doesn't actually change anything. You have to explicitly request installing a given package from experimental to pull it from experimenta

Re: Proposal to create unstable-proposed-updates suite for use during freeze

2021-08-18 Thread Nilesh Patra
t ready for unstable also. > Proposed solution: open unstable-proposed-updates with freeze and close it > when freeze is lifted. The packages in this suite can migrate to testing, > this avoids manual reuploads to unstable after freeze is lifted. +1 to this. Please do not take this

Proposal to create unstable-proposed-updates suite for use during freeze

2021-08-17 Thread Pirate Praveen
also. Proposed solution: open unstable-proposed-updates with freeze and close it when freeze is lifted. The packages in this suite can migrate to testing, this avoids manual reuploads to unstable after freeze is lifted. Optional: create a companion testing suite say rolling which may be used during

Re: unstable-proposed-updates

2010-08-26 Thread Thibaut Paumard
Hi, Le 26/08/10 01:20, Carsten Hey a écrit : > * Russ Allbery [2010-08-25 01:13 -0700]: >> Yves-Alexis Perez writes: >>> Would it be possible (at one point) to “fix” it and stop using >>> unstable as t-p-u and experimental as unstable when freeze is in >>> action? >> >> We could try to get lots o

unstable-proposed-updates (was: For those who care about their packages in Debian)

2010-08-25 Thread Carsten Hey
ges and > distro is totally broken" effect :-). I thought about something like this a while ago and would have called it 'unstable-proposed-updates'. Currently experimental is used for both, experimental packages and packages the should go to unstable in future, a new suite t