Re: simplifying running piuparts (was: Re: Debian development and release: always releasable (essay))

2013-05-22 Thread Holger Levsen
On Mittwoch, 22. Mai 2013, Jakub Wilk wrote: > FWIW, most of the packages don't need anything more than a chroot. Interesting, thanks. signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.

Re: simplifying running piuparts (was: Re: Debian development and release: always releasable (essay))

2013-05-22 Thread Jakub Wilk
* Holger Levsen , 2013-05-22, 13:26: it is not fully related to your original question, but do you think that piuparts could support running Autopkgtests as well ? I think we need another setup for this. Autopkgtests may destroy their environment (and might need more than a chroot) so they canno

Re: simplifying running piuparts (was: Re: Debian development and release: always releasable (essay))

2013-05-22 Thread Holger Levsen
Hi, On Mittwoch, 22. Mai 2013, Charles Plessy wrote: > it is not fully related to your original question, but do you think that > piuparts could support running Autopkgtests as well ? I think we need another setup for this. Autopkgtests may destroy their environment (and might need more than a c

Re: simplifying running piuparts

2013-05-22 Thread Andreas Beckmann
Hi Charles, On 2013-05-22 06:05, Charles Plessy wrote: > it is not fully related to your original question, but do you think that > piuparts > could support running Autopkgtests as well ? Theoretically yes, but I haven't looked into DEP8 so far ... reading ... Quoting from the autopkgtest speci

Re: simplifying running piuparts (was: Re: Debian development and release: always releasable (essay))

2013-05-21 Thread Charles Plessy
Le Tue, May 21, 2013 at 11:48:57AM +0200, Andreas Beckmann a écrit : > @all maintainers: How would you like to run piuparts s.t. it easily > integrates into your workflow and allows improving Debian's quality? > This is something we could improve right now. Integrating piuparts into > the ftp-maste

Re: [Piuparts-devel] simplifying running piuparts

2013-05-21 Thread Lars Wirzenius
On Tue, May 21, 2013 at 05:58:00PM +0200, Wouter Verhelst wrote: > The trouble is that piuparts doesn't manage its own chroot tarball last > I checked; it uses the pbuilder tarball instead. piuparts -s $HOME/piuparts.tar.gz ... # create the tarball piuparts -b $HOME/piuparts.tar.gz ... # use the t

Re: [Piuparts-devel] simplifying running piuparts

2013-05-21 Thread Holger Levsen
On Dienstag, 21. Mai 2013, Wouter Verhelst wrote: > The trouble is... hence my suggestion to have debuild do this optionally. your suggestion of having pdebuild do it by default is a good one though. I guess someone should do something, eg file bugs. :) signature.asc Description: This is a di

Re: [Piuparts-devel] simplifying running piuparts

2013-05-21 Thread Wouter Verhelst
On 21-05-13 12:05, Holger Levsen wrote: > Hi, > > On Dienstag, 21. Mai 2013, Andreas Beckmann wrote: >> @all maintainers: How would you like to run piuparts s.t. it easily >> integrates into your workflow and allows improving Debian's quality? > > have an option to run piuparts automatically by d

Re: [Piuparts-devel] simplifying running piuparts

2013-05-21 Thread Thomas Goirand
On 05/21/2013 06:35 PM, Ondřej Surý wrote: > Also integrate it with git-pbuilder/pbuilder/cowbuilder to run > piuparts inside the created clean(ish) chroot, so it's less time > consuming. > > O. This really would be nice, indeed!!! I've been asking for that feature already, and I am happy to see th

Re: [Piuparts-devel] simplifying running piuparts

2013-05-21 Thread Ondřej Surý
On Tue, May 21, 2013 at 3:34 PM, Didier 'OdyX' Raboud wrote: >> I consider the package-by-package testing as a much better test than >> installing all the packages at once because it can discover much more >> dependency issues - and it much closer resembles what is being run on >> piuparts.d.o >

Re: [Piuparts-devel] simplifying running piuparts

2013-05-21 Thread Didier 'OdyX' Raboud
Le mardi, 21 mai 2013 14.58:17, Andreas Beckmann a écrit : > >> On Tue, May 21, 2013 at 12:05 PM, Holger Levsen > > wrote: > >>> have an option to run piuparts automatically by debuild, after or > >>> before lintian. > > that means we need a driver script that accepts a .changes file and > create

Re: simplifying running piuparts

2013-05-21 Thread Holger Levsen
Hi Andreas, On Dienstag, 21. Mai 2013, Andreas Beckmann wrote: > That allows some basic test (installing all the .debs from the > .changes), but not the per-package testing as its done on piuparts.d.o. > But such fine-granular testing is required to discover some dependency > issues. Sure! But pe

Re: [Piuparts-devel] simplifying running piuparts

2013-05-21 Thread Andreas Beckmann
On 2013-05-21 13:27, Didier 'OdyX' Raboud wrote: > Le mardi, 21 mai 2013 12.35:47, Ondřej Surý a écrit : >> On Tue, May 21, 2013 at 12:05 PM, Holger Levsen > wrote: >>> have an option to run piuparts automatically by debuild, after or before >>> lintian. that means we need a driver script that a

Re: simplifying running piuparts

2013-05-21 Thread Andreas Beckmann
On 2013-05-21 14:28, Holger Levsen wrote: > On Dienstag, 21. Mai 2013, Simon McVittie wrote: >> Ideally, I would like a guide to setting up piuparts in a simple, >> recommended way, which doesn't assume I already have in-depth knowledge >> of piuparts, and preferably also doesn't assume I already u

Re: simplifying running piuparts

2013-05-21 Thread Holger Levsen
Hi, On Dienstag, 21. Mai 2013, Simon McVittie wrote: > Ideally, I would like a guide to setting up piuparts in a simple, > recommended way, which doesn't assume I already have in-depth knowledge > of piuparts, and preferably also doesn't assume I already use pbuilder. that's really easy, esp. wit

Re: [Piuparts-devel] simplifying running piuparts (was: Re: Debian development and release: always releasable (essay))

2013-05-21 Thread Didier 'OdyX' Raboud
Le mardi, 21 mai 2013 12.35:47, Ondřej Surý a écrit : > On Tue, May 21, 2013 at 12:05 PM, Holger Levsen wrote: > > have an option to run piuparts automatically by debuild, after or before > > lintian. > > Also integrate it with git-pbuilder/pbuilder/cowbuilder to run > piuparts inside the create

Re: simplifying running piuparts

2013-05-21 Thread Roger Leigh
On Tue, May 21, 2013 at 12:17:38PM +0100, Simon McVittie wrote: > On 21/05/13 10:48, Andreas Beckmann wrote: > > @all maintainers: How would you like to run piuparts s.t. it easily > > integrates into your workflow and allows improving Debian's quality? > > Ideally, I would like a guide to setting

Re: simplifying running piuparts

2013-05-21 Thread Simon McVittie
On 21/05/13 10:48, Andreas Beckmann wrote: > @all maintainers: How would you like to run piuparts s.t. it easily > integrates into your workflow and allows improving Debian's quality? Ideally, I would like a guide to setting up piuparts in a simple, recommended way, which doesn't assume I already

Re: [Piuparts-devel] simplifying running piuparts (was: Re: Debian development and release: always releasable (essay))

2013-05-21 Thread Ondřej Surý
On Tue, May 21, 2013 at 12:05 PM, Holger Levsen wrote: > Hi, > > On Dienstag, 21. Mai 2013, Andreas Beckmann wrote: >> @all maintainers: How would you like to run piuparts s.t. it easily >> integrates into your workflow and allows improving Debian's quality? > > have an option to run piuparts auto

simplifying running piuparts (was: Re: Debian development and release: always releasable (essay))

2013-05-21 Thread Andreas Beckmann
@all maintainers: How would you like to run piuparts s.t. it easily integrates into your workflow and allows improving Debian's quality? This is something we could improve right now. Integrating piuparts into the ftp-master/buildd side will take a much longer way. On 2013-05-19 18:39, Ondřej Surý

Re: [Piuparts-devel] simplifying running piuparts (was: Re: Debian development and release: always releasable (essay))

2013-05-21 Thread Holger Levsen
Hi, On Dienstag, 21. Mai 2013, Andreas Beckmann wrote: > @all maintainers: How would you like to run piuparts s.t. it easily > integrates into your workflow and allows improving Debian's quality? have an option to run piuparts automatically by debuild, after or before lintian. cheers,