Re: miscutils snag/questions for all

1995-11-26 Thread Raul Miller
Bill Mitchell: I think we need a good way to deal with this general situation which is simple enough to use not to need guru advice from the dpkg designer. I agree -- typically the best way of dealling with this situation is better documentation. Of course, where documentation fails (as

Re: miscutils snag/questions for all

1995-11-26 Thread Ian Jackson
Jeff Noxon writes ("Re: miscutils snag/questions for all"): > Agreed, but the util-linux people have already made up their minds to > replace fdisk 2.0 with fdisk 3.0. All recent fdisk 2 maintenance has > been happening in util-linux, and they're about to stop because the

Re: miscutils snag/questions for all

1995-11-26 Thread Ian Jackson
Bill Mitchell writes ("Re: miscutils snag/questions for all"): > [stuff] I have written a reply to this but I'm too annoyed for it to be wise for me to send it. I have saved it and will look at it again in a day or two and see if I still feel like sending it. Ian.

Re: miscutils snag/questions for all

1995-11-26 Thread Jeff Noxon
Ian Jackson writes: > Bruce Perens writes ("Re: miscutils snag/questions for all"): > > [Jeff Noxon:] > > > Do we really want > > > programs like fdisk to evolve differently in different distributions? > > > > Fdisk is a special issue. There is a n

Re: miscutils snag/questions for all

1995-11-26 Thread Bill Mitchell
On Sat, 25 Nov 1995, Bruce Perens wrote: > We should encourage authors to package their programs individually rather > than dump them on Rik. Sometimes, we're going to have to make judgement > calls. And someone commented that it'd have been better if all the programs in upstream digest packages

Re: miscutils snag/questions for all

1995-11-26 Thread Ian Jackson
Bruce Perens writes ("Re: miscutils snag/questions for all"): > [Jeff Noxon:] > > Do we really want > > programs like fdisk to evolve differently in different distributions? > > Fdisk is a special issue. There is a new fdisk 3.0 which was distributed > separately

Re: miscutils snag/questions for all

1995-11-26 Thread Ian Jackson
Jeff Noxon writes ("Re: miscutils snag/questions for all"): > Bruce Perens wrote: > > It's a mess. I wish that all of the programs we need from util-linux > > were distributed separately, that way we could package them individually. > > I'd prefer to split

Re: miscutils snag/questions for all

1995-11-26 Thread Bruce Perens
> Do we really want > programs like fdisk to evolve differently in different distributions? Fdisk is a special issue. There is a new fdisk 3.0 which was distributed separately. It is a command line program and we need to write a front end for it. > If the answer is 'yes', then I would like to hav

Re: miscutils snag/questions for all

1995-11-26 Thread Jeff Noxon
Bruce Perens wrote: > As a rule of thumb, if you can get a program from the most-upstream > source - for example the person who contributed it to BOGUS instead > of BOGUS, get it from that source. That sounds fair. Unfortunately, some utilities (like fdisk) seem to be maintained (recently) only i

Re: miscutils snag/questions for all

1995-11-26 Thread Bruce Perens
> * The miscutils come from the util-linux distribution maintained by > Rik Faith and others. I think Ian Murdock tried to get the sources from _outside_ of BOGUS where possible, because BOGUS did not contain the thorough copyright and attribution information for each program that we feel is nece

miscutils snag/questions for all

1995-11-25 Thread Jeff Noxon
I recently took over as maintainer of the miscutils package. I'm working on a new release, but I have several questions to ask before I continue. * miscutils is one of the few (only?) debian packages currently distributed without diffs. I'd like to distribute it with diffs. * The miscutils c