Re: Re: localhost.localdomain

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Re: Re: localhost.localdomain

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Re: localhost.localdomain

2005-10-31 Thread Russ Allbery
Gabor Gombas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On Fri, Oct 07, 2005 at 11:18:57AM -0700, Russ Allbery wrote: >> * Obtain the system host name with gethostname(). >> * Look up an IP address for that host with gethostbyname(). > The bug is here. This is completely wrong but sadly very common > practi

Re: localhost.localdomain

2005-10-20 Thread Miles Bader
Gabor Gombas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On a fresh OpenBSD 3.7 install: > > ::1 localhost.home localhost > 127.0.0.1 localhost.home localhost Heh, I'm just surprised it's not: 127.0.0.1 OpenLocalHOST localhost -miles -- Quidquid latine dictum sit, altum viditur. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, emai

Re: localhost.localdomain

2005-10-20 Thread Klaus Ethgen
pends on the naming service configuration. Thats not completely true. MySQL use the name "localhost" to select a other connection methode (socket). If you use the ip or localhost.localdomain it tries to connect bei network which is much slower. Gruß Klaus - -- Klaus Ethgen

Re: localhost.localdomain

2005-10-20 Thread Christoph Haas
On Thursday 20 October 2005 16:01, Gabor Gombas wrote: > On Fri, Oct 07, 2005 at 04:15:18PM +0200, Christoph Haas wrote: > > MySQL definitely chokes on localhost.localdomain. And although MySQL > > will adopt to distributions using "localhost.localdomain" instead of >

Re: localhost.localdomain

2005-10-20 Thread Gabor Gombas
On Fri, Oct 14, 2005 at 03:25:53AM -0500, Peter Samuelson wrote: > Well, that's not quite true. As someone else pointed out earlier, AIX > lists "loopback localhost". On a fresh OpenBSD 3.7 install: ::1 localhost.home localhost 127.0.0.1 localhost.home localhost ("home" is the domain used on m

Re: localhost.localdomain

2005-10-20 Thread Olaf van der Spek
On 10/20/05, Gabor Gombas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Thu, Oct 20, 2005 at 04:16:40PM +0200, Olaf van der Spek wrote: > > > Wouldn't the proper fix be to not use source address based authentication? > > This is not authentication. INN just need a string to uniquely identify > a host. Using a FQ

Re: localhost.localdomain

2005-10-20 Thread Gabor Gombas
On Thu, Oct 20, 2005 at 04:16:40PM +0200, Olaf van der Spek wrote: > Wouldn't the proper fix be to not use source address based authentication? This is not authentication. INN just need a string to uniquely identify a host. Using a FQDN is OK, it's just the way of obtaining that FQDN that is prob

Re: localhost.localdomain

2005-10-20 Thread Olaf van der Spek
On 10/20/05, Gabor Gombas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > The proper fix would be to enumerate all IP addresses of all network > interfaces and select one that has an appropriate name. Unfortunately > this is non-trivial and highly OS-dependent, although the libdumbnet1 > package provides a platform-i

Re: localhost.localdomain

2005-10-20 Thread Gabor Gombas
On Thu, Oct 13, 2005 at 12:35:11PM -0700, Jeff Stevens wrote: > 1 -- When configuring DNS, 127.0.0.1 must resolve to localhost and vice > versa [1]. No, the RFC does not say "must", it only says "should" (and it is not even a "SHOULD"). And regardless if l

Re: localhost.localdomain

2005-10-20 Thread Gabor Gombas
On Fri, Oct 07, 2005 at 04:15:18PM +0200, Christoph Haas wrote: > MySQL definitely chokes on localhost.localdomain. And although MySQL will > adopt to distributions using "localhost.localdomain" instead of "localhost" > doesn't mean it's correct. MySQ

Re: localhost.localdomain

2005-10-20 Thread Gabor Gombas
On Fri, Oct 07, 2005 at 11:18:57AM -0700, Russ Allbery wrote: > * Obtain the system host name with gethostname(). > * Look up an IP address for that host with gethostbyname(). The bug is here. This is completely wrong but sadly very common practice. It is common because it is portable and works

Re: localhost.localdomain

2005-10-14 Thread Stig Sandbeck Mathisen
Thomas Hood wrote: OK, I have modified netcfg so that it writes 127.0.0.1localhost to /etc/hosts. Excellent. Thank you. :) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: localhost.localdomain

2005-10-14 Thread Christoph Haas
Thomas... On Friday 14 October 2005 10:47, Thomas Hood wrote: > OK, I have modified netcfg so that it writes > > 127.0.0.1 localhost > > to /etc/hosts. Thank you very much. My fellow sysadmins will appreciate that. And of course I'm very glad that after a lot of global warming the thread fina

Re: localhost.localdomain

2005-10-14 Thread Jeff Stevens
lication expects to be able to resolve 'localhost.localdomain' > to an IP address. > * The application breaks if 'localhost.localdomain' is included on the > 127.0.0.1 line in /etc/hosts. Fantastic! Might I add that it is *not* a bug for an application to expect resolution

Re: localhost.localdomain

2005-10-14 Thread Wesley J. Landaker
to be > bugs: > > * The application expects to be able to resolve 'localhost.localdomain' > to an IP address. > * The application breaks if 'localhost.localdomain' is included on the > 127.0.0.1 line in /etc/hosts. Yes, I totally agree here. =) -- Wesley J. Landa

Re: localhost.localdomain

2005-10-14 Thread Thomas Hood
OK, I have modified netcfg so that it writes 127.0.0.1 localhost to /etc/hosts. >From now on let's consider at least the following two phenomena to be bugs: * The application expects to be able to resolve 'localhost.localdomain' to an IP address. * The app

Re: localhost.localdomain

2005-10-14 Thread Peter Samuelson
[Jeff Stevens] > If /etc/hosts were changed to: > > 127.0.0.1 localhost localhost.localdomain > > Resolution of 127.0.0.1 would properly return localhost. Yeah, but that's all beside the point. There is no point in swapping the order of the two names unless there be

Re: localhost.localdomain

2005-10-13 Thread Jeff Stevens
On Thu, 2005-10-13 at 16:02 +0200, Thomas Hood wrote: > The change from 'localhost' to 'localhost.localdomain' was made in > svn revision 16759. The Debian changelog entry added at that time > refers to bug report #247734. Looking at #247734 I see that > 'lo

Re: localhost.localdomain

2005-10-13 Thread Thomas Hood
The change from 'localhost' to 'localhost.localdomain' was made in svn revision 16759. The Debian changelog entry added at that time refers to bug report #247734. Looking at #247734 I see that 'localhost.localdomain' appeared without anyone either supporting it

Re: localhost.localdomain

2005-10-10 Thread Peter Samuelson
[Joey Hess] > > So far, this thread has not yeilded anything I can trust to that degree. [Christoph Haas] > IIRC it yielded the fact that localhost.localdomain is has been added > to fix applications Not that I've noticed. Maybe I just missed it, but *what* applications o

Re: localhost.localdomain

2005-10-09 Thread Christoph Haas
ince newer applications may rely on it. But shouldn't we better announce that intended change to debian-devel-announce and ask for feedback if it breaks someone else's work? Similar to library transitions. > So far, this thread has not yeilded anything I can trust to that degree. IIRC it

Re: localhost.localdomain

2005-10-08 Thread Jeff Stevens
On Sat, 2005-10-08 at 23:04 +0200, Frans Pop wrote: > On Saturday 08 October 2005 22:07, Jeff Stevens wrote: > > On Fri, 2005-10-07 at 16:26 +0200, Christoph Haas wrote: > > "localhost.localdomain" and "localhost" must be swapped. The first > > entry

Re: localhost.localdomain

2005-10-08 Thread Steve Langasek
On Sat, Oct 08, 2005 at 11:04:09PM +0200, Frans Pop wrote: > On Saturday 08 October 2005 22:07, Jeff Stevens wrote: > > "localhost.localdomain" and "localhost" must be swapped. The first > > entry in the list of hosts *must* be "localhost". > Y

Re: localhost.localdomain

2005-10-08 Thread Stig Sandbeck Mathisen
Gabor Gombas wrote: Then fix those other broken things as well. Contrary to popular belief among our users, system administrators does not have access to every server on the internet. Therefore, I can not help you solve this issue in this way. Instead, I propose we return the content of th

Re: localhost.localdomain

2005-10-08 Thread Marco d'Itri
On Oct 08, Frans Pop <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > You give nice explanations how things work, but fail to say anywhere why > having localhost.localdomain first is so wrong. > What breaks? What standards (with reference please) are not honored? An obvious problem is that gethos

Re: localhost.localdomain

2005-10-08 Thread Joey Hess
stamina that you do, so I've only read random bits of it a half-dozen times. The localhost.localdomain does seems to kind of appear out of the blue half way through and looks very likely to have been glommed in with the rest of the changes by mistake. It's hard to tell looking back at the h

Re: localhost.localdomain

2005-10-08 Thread Joey Hess
changing "localhost" to "localhost.localdomain" only for the > reason that RedHat doing it? Christoph Haas wrote: > "RedHat does it" isn't a good argument for me either. I'd just like to point out that the whole idea that this was somehow influenced by

Re: localhost.localdomain

2005-10-08 Thread Frans Pop
On Saturday 08 October 2005 22:07, Jeff Stevens wrote: > On Fri, 2005-10-07 at 16:26 +0200, Christoph Haas wrote: > "localhost.localdomain" and "localhost" must be swapped. The first > entry in the list of hosts *must* be "localhost". You make quite a l

Re: localhost.localdomain

2005-10-08 Thread Russ Allbery
Jeff Stevens <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > I don't have access to AIX, HPUX or other major Unices, but I bet in the > hosts file, 127.0.0.1 is immediately followed by localhost -- and other > aliases follow localhost. "localhost" *must* be first. AIX 5.2: 127.0.0.1 loopback localhost HP-UX

Re: localhost.localdomain

2005-10-08 Thread Jeff Stevens
On Fri, 2005-10-07 at 16:26 +0200, Christoph Haas wrote: > The problem is probably that the "localhost.localdomain" stands before > "localhost" in that line. So if you "reverse resolve" 127.0.0.1 you > end up with "localhost.localdomain" which some

Re: localhost.localdomain

2005-10-07 Thread Russ Allbery
an IP address for that host with gethostbyname(). * Look up the names associated with that address with gethostbyaddr(). * Walk the alias list of the result and find the first name containing a period. A simple line of: 127.0.0.1 localhost localhost.localdomain by itself doesn't cause pro

Re: localhost.localdomain

2005-10-07 Thread Bernd Eckenfels
On Fri, Oct 07, 2005 at 02:04:44PM +0200, Gabor Gombas wrote: > That is what I say: every Debian package that uses "hostname -f" is > bogus, because it relies on a certain system configuration. Umm, I guess all debian packages relies on certain configurations. Gruss Bernd -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, em

Re: localhost.localdomain

2005-10-07 Thread Christoph Haas
gt; > > ARGH! > > > > If that bug was the reason why the localhost entry in /etc/hosts was > > changed, then please fix it right back to what it was. > > > > The localhost.localdomain stuff appeared from nowhere in an email by Pierre > > Machard during

Re: localhost.localdomain

2005-10-07 Thread Christoph Haas
ted this thread. :) MySQL definitely chokes on localhost.localdomain. And although MySQL will adopt to distributions using "localhost.localdomain" instead of "localhost" doesn't mean it's correct. MySQL by default expects "localhost" as the hostname assigned to

Re: localhost.localdomain

2005-10-07 Thread Gabor Gombas
On Fri, Oct 07, 2005 at 07:10:07AM +0200, Stig Sandbeck Mathisen wrote: > Changing the canonical name of localhost is an arbitrary change that > breaks more than MySQL. It also violates the principle of least > astonishment. Then fix those other broken things as well. If you want localhost-style

Re: localhost.localdomain

2005-10-07 Thread Gabor Gombas
On Fri, Oct 07, 2005 at 04:45:24AM +0200, Bernd Eckenfels wrote: > Those asumptions are not false, they are what they are: asumptions. If you > dont want to configure your system that way, just dont use it. That is what I say: every Debian package that uses "hostname -f" is bogus, because it reli

Re: localhost.localdomain

2005-10-07 Thread Gabor Gombas
On Thu, Oct 06, 2005 at 12:44:34PM -0700, Russ Allbery wrote: > No, they won't, because INN ignores hostnames that do not contain a period > for the purposes of generating external identifiers, specifically to keep > from using things like localhost or other unqualified names that aren't > globall

Re: localhost.localdomain

2005-10-07 Thread Gabor Gombas
On Fri, Oct 07, 2005 at 08:12:38AM +0200, Lionel Elie Mamane wrote: > Having the DNS and /etc/hosts give different results is asking for > trouble. RFC 1912 says that this discussion was had in the past and > the conclusion was "localhost.". Note that that discussion was about appending the local

Re: localhost.localdomain

2005-10-06 Thread Lionel Elie Mamane
On Thu, Oct 06, 2005 at 03:25:15PM +0200, Gabor Gombas wrote: > On Thu, Oct 06, 2005 at 07:31:37AM -0500, Steve Greenland wrote: >> When proposing a variation from long-standing historical practice, >> shouldn't the onus be on the on making the change? What problem does >&

Re: localhost.localdomain

2005-10-06 Thread Stig Sandbeck Mathisen
Pierre Machard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Anyway I do not understand why this issue is a problem since we > simply add an alias to localhost. Nobody say that we will remove > localhost and exchange it by localhost.localdomain. If what you wanted to do was to add an alias, you s

Re: localhost.localdomain

2005-10-06 Thread Stig Sandbeck Mathisen
Gabor Gombas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Ok, after a quick googling I found that this bug has already been > reported for MySQL: http://bugs.mysql.com/11822 and is fixed in > MySQL 5.0.11. So if it bothers you, you should upgrade. Changing the canonical name of localhost is an arbitrary change

Re: localhost.localdomain

2005-10-06 Thread Bernd Eckenfels
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> you wrote: > So it was just papering over a real bug, namely the existence of the > "-f" option of hostname. "hostname -f" assumes that the hostname (as > returned by gethostname(3)) has something to do with networking, which > is false. It also assumes that the syste

Re: localhost.localdomain

2005-10-06 Thread Wesley J. Landaker
enrique here (and pretty much in all past messages in this thread)--I also read that bug report VERY carefully, and I do not see how adding .localdomain had anything to do with the resolution of that bug. I believe that localhost.localdomain should be removed, as it is both unnecessary and arbit

Re: localhost.localdomain

2005-10-06 Thread Russ Allbery
John Hasler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Russ Allbery writes: >> No, they won't, because INN ignores hostnames that do not contain a >> period for the purposes of generating external identifiers, >> specifically to keep from using things like localhost or other >> unqualified names that aren't gl

Re: localhost.localdomain

2005-10-06 Thread John Hasler
Stefano Zacchiroli writes: > IMHO is too much to inhibit the use of the program as a whole just to > minimize the collision risk, a warning would have been enough. Particularly considering that there are better ways to assure the uniqueness of message-ids anyway. -- John Hasler -- To UNSUBSCRI

Re: localhost.localdomain

2005-10-06 Thread John Hasler
Russ Allbery writes: > No, they won't, because INN ignores hostnames that do not contain a > period for the purposes of generating external identifiers, specifically > to keep from using things like localhost or other unqualified names that > aren't globally unique. Relying on hostnames either wit

Re: localhost.localdomain

2005-10-06 Thread Mark Brown
On Thu, Oct 06, 2005 at 10:41:13PM +0200, Stefano Zacchiroli wrote: > On Thu, Oct 06, 2005 at 09:38:03PM +0100, Mark Brown wrote: > > It's complaining because upstream wishes to strongly encourage users to > > configure things so that they have a globally unique hostname part to > > message IDs th

Re: localhost.localdomain

2005-10-06 Thread Mark Brown
On Thu, Oct 06, 2005 at 05:02:55PM -0300, Henrique de Moraes Holschuh wrote: > Or am I getting confused and d-i uses localhost.localdomain as the default > hostname, and say, if I had told it that my machine is named "twerk", domain > "foo.bar" I would get a &g

Re: localhost.localdomain

2005-10-06 Thread Stefano Zacchiroli
On Thu, Oct 06, 2005 at 09:38:03PM +0100, Mark Brown wrote: > It's complaining because upstream wishes to strongly encourage users to > configure things so that they have a globally unique hostname part to > message IDs that are generated by Leafnode in order to minimise the risk IMHO is too much

Re: localhost.localdomain

2005-10-06 Thread Mark Brown
On Thu, Oct 06, 2005 at 03:17:53PM +0200, Stefano Zacchiroli wrote: > IIRC leafnode complains about "localhost.localdomain" refusing to suck > news unless you manually specify a domainname in its configuration file. > Maybe you remember that trouble? > Still, I've ev

Re: localhost.localdomain

2005-10-06 Thread Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
here that seems to have been fixed/addressed by .localdomain, except maybe a DNS timeout in Pierre's machine. Everything else deals with the hostname. Or am I getting confused and d-i uses localhost.localdomain as the default hostname, and say, if I had told it that my machine is named "twer

Re: localhost.localdomain

2005-10-06 Thread Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
On Thu, 06 Oct 2005, Pierre Machard wrote: > The fact is that nobody complained about that... and my bug was Now we are :) > repported more than one year and a half ago. Plus It was disscussed on > debian-devel. Please do not argue with me! It is nothing personal... it is just that your email w

Re: localhost.localdomain

2005-10-06 Thread Russ Allbery
Marco d'Itri <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On Oct 06, Russ Allbery <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> See the news.software.nntp traffic with people having strange problems >> with pathnames and message ID generation because of .localdomain. >> There have been a few separate cases of that over the past

Re: localhost.localdomain

2005-10-06 Thread Joey Hess
Henrique de Moraes Holschuh wrote: > Because instead of doing this: > > 127.0.0.1 localost localhost.localdomain > > It was done like this: > > 127.0.0.1 localhost.localdomain localhost > > Thus changing the canonical name of the loopback interface. PLEASE do no

Re: localhost.localdomain

2005-10-06 Thread Bernd Eckenfels
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> you wrote: > I can not remember precisely. I think that at that time I was testing the > debian-installer and I saw it was taken a long while to boot. I saw > that my system had no FQDN (hostname -f). When you add .localdomain, the > FQDN is complete and it helps to s

Re: localhost.localdomain

2005-10-06 Thread Pierre Machard
On Thu, Oct 06, 2005 at 03:23:45PM -0300, Henrique de Moraes Holschuh wrote: > On Thu, 06 Oct 2005, Pierre Machard wrote: > > Anyway I do not understand why this issue is a problem since we > > Because instead of doing this: > > 127.0.0.1 localost localhost.localdomain >

Re: localhost.localdomain

2005-10-06 Thread Marco d'Itri
On Oct 06, Henrique de Moraes Holschuh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Because instead of doing this: > > 127.0.0.1 localost localhost.localdomain > > It was done like this: > > 127.0.0.1 localhost.localdomain localhost > > Thus changing the canonical name of t

Re: localhost.localdomain

2005-10-06 Thread Marco d'Itri
On Oct 06, Russ Allbery <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > See the news.software.nntp traffic with people having strange problems > with pathnames and message ID generation because of .localdomain. There > have been a few separate cases of that over the past year or so. Not relevant. They would have th

Re: localhost.localdomain

2005-10-06 Thread Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
On Thu, 06 Oct 2005, Pierre Machard wrote: > Anyway I do not understand why this issue is a problem since we Because instead of doing this: 127.0.0.1 localost localhost.localdomain It was done like this: 127.0.0.1 localhost.localdomain localhost Thus changing the canonical name of

Re: localhost.localdomain

2005-10-06 Thread Gabor Gombas
body say that we will remove > localhost and exchange it by localhost.localdomain. Broken software compares reverse_lookup({127.0.0.1}) with the string "localhost" and is surprised when it gets FALSE due to the reverse looku

Re: localhost.localdomain

2005-10-06 Thread Russ Allbery
Marco d'Itri <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On Oct 06, Klaus Ethgen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> .localdomain is such a peace of shit which only makes troubles. So > Please explain which troubles. See the news.software.nntp traffic with people having strange problems with pathnames and message I

Re: localhost.localdomain

2005-10-06 Thread Pierre Machard
or > > > .localdmain at all. > > > > IIRC The main reason was described in #247734 > > ARGH! > > If that bug was the reason why the localhost entry in /etc/hosts was > changed, then please fix it right back to what it was. > > The localhost.localdomain stuf

Re: localhost.localdomain

2005-10-06 Thread Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
On Thu, 06 Oct 2005, John Hasler wrote: > Read the discussion in the bug report. I think "localhost.localdomain" is I did. "localhost.localdomain" solved no problems, it was not even related to the problem they were trying to fix, and it certainly is not part of the best c

Re: localhost.localdomain

2005-10-06 Thread Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
why the localhost entry in /etc/hosts was changed, then please fix it right back to what it was. The localhost.localdomain stuff appeared from nowhere in an email by Pierre Machard during the discursion, and stayed on all other examples while people tried to fix an issue (which has a fucking old pro

Re: localhost.localdomain

2005-10-06 Thread John Hasler
I wrote: > It wasn't changed. "localhost.localdomain" was _added_. "localhost" is > still there. Henrique de Moraes Holschuh writes: > The first entry is the canonical name, and it is what the reverse maps > to. So yes, it WAS changed, and very much so. Th

Re: localhost.localdomain

2005-10-06 Thread Steve Greenland
On 06-Oct-05, 08:25 (CDT), Gabor Gombas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > It's being long-standing does not mean it's correct. No, but it doesn't make changing it correct, either. Again: what actual technical problem is solved by 'localhost.localdomain&quo

Re: localhost.localdomain

2005-10-06 Thread Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
On Thu, 06 Oct 2005, John Hasler wrote: > > But why changing "localhost" to "localhost.localdomain"... > > It wasn't changed. "localhost.localdomain" was _added_. "localhost" is > still there. The first entry is the canonical name

Re: localhost.localdomain

2005-10-06 Thread Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
On Thu, 06 Oct 2005, Gabor Gombas wrote: > It's being long-standing does not mean it's correct. I started looking But it means it is a de-facto standard, which it *is*. Every *nix system I have mucked around with in the last five years, with the exception of a few Linux distributions, uses plain

Re: localhost.localdomain

2005-10-06 Thread Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
, apparently. Still, WHAT does a canonical name of localhost.localdomain. for 127.0.0.1 brings us? It is completely useless, it adds no extra functionality over a plain canonical name of "localhost". And it breaks badly designed applications. While it pains me to say so (I abso

Re: localhost.localdomain

2005-10-06 Thread Gabor Gombas
On Thu, Oct 06, 2005 at 07:31:37AM -0500, Steve Greenland wrote: > When proposing a variation from long-standing historical practice, > shouldn't the onus be on the on making the change? What problem does > 'localhost.localdomain' solve? Why is is better than just '

Re: localhost.localdomain

2005-10-06 Thread John Hasler
Klaus Ethgen writes: > Thats the reason why I give more helpfull information too in the first > mail. You haven't given enough information. > But why changing "localhost" to "localhost.localdomain"... It wasn't changed. "localhost.localdomain" w

Re: localhost.localdomain

2005-10-06 Thread Stefano Zacchiroli
On Thu, Oct 06, 2005 at 01:43:29PM +0200, Klaus Ethgen wrote: > I cannot specify it. But I remember that I did search for problemes in > the past long time to find a error. And it was an entry of > localhost.localdomain in a /etc/hosts. Maybe it was PVM or MySQL or > other. I'

Re: localhost.localdomain

2005-10-06 Thread Steve Greenland
On 06-Oct-05, 07:22 (CDT), Wouter Verhelst <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Thu, Oct 06, 2005 at 02:04:44PM +0200, Klaus Ethgen wrote: > Problems can have many causes. One of them may be that > localhost.localdomain is unexpected; another may be that the software > you were

Re: localhost.localdomain

2005-10-06 Thread Klaus Ethgen
by default > anymore. However, if we find that the problem is just a bug, it would be > better to fix it rather than removing something which many people expect > to be there. But why changing "localhost" to "localhost.localdomain" only for the reason that RedHat doing it?

Re: localhost.localdomain

2005-10-06 Thread Wouter Verhelst
g. Next? > > No, I just do not remember which software it was. I absolutely remember > THAT it was a problem with localhost.localdomain and THAT it takes me > long time to debug. That's not helpful. Problems can have many causes. One of them may be that localhost.localdomain is unexp

Re: localhost.localdomain

2005-10-06 Thread Marco d'Itri
> THAT it was a problem with localhost.localdomain and THAT it takes me > long time to debug. So you know about an unspecified issue with an unspecified program. It's not much to argue that the current behaviour is broken. - -- ciao, Marco -BEGIN PGP SIGNATU

Re: localhost.localdomain

2005-10-06 Thread Klaus Ethgen
are it was. I absolutely remember THAT it was a problem with localhost.localdomain and THAT it takes me long time to debug. Gruß Klaus - -- Klaus Ethgenhttp://www.ethgen.de/ pub 2048R/D1A4EDE5 2000-02-26 Klaus Ethgen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Fingerprint: D7 67 71 C4

Re: localhost.localdomain

2005-10-06 Thread Marco d'Itri
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Oct 06, Klaus Ethgen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Am Do den 6. Okt 2005 um 12:37 schrieb Marco d'Itri: > > > .localdomain is such a peace of shit which only makes troubles. So > > Please explain which troubles. > I cannot specify it. But I remembe

Re: localhost.localdomain

2005-10-06 Thread Klaus Ethgen
oblemes in the past long time to find a error. And it was an entry of localhost.localdomain in a /etc/hosts. Maybe it was PVM or MySQL or other. I'm not sure. If you think for localhost you will never anticipate that it is called localhost.localdomain on one system. The Phrase "localhost&qu

Re: localhost.localdomain

2005-10-06 Thread Marco d'Itri
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Oct 06, Klaus Ethgen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > .localdomain is such a peace of shit which only makes troubles. So Please explain which troubles. - -- ciao, Marco -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.1 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFDRP57FGfw

Re: localhost.localdomain

2005-10-06 Thread Klaus Ethgen
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi, Am Do den 6. Okt 2005 um 9:10 schrieb Pierre Machard: > IIRC The main reason was described in #247734 The only reason I find is that RedHat use it. But RedHat shouldn't be debians requirement of quality. It should be other way around. RedHat is

Re: localhost.localdomain

2005-10-06 Thread Pierre Machard
On Sat, Sep 24, 2005 at 08:33:25PM +0200, Bernd Eckenfels wrote: > In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> you wrote: > > "localdomain" is not a registered top-level domain and hopefully never > > will be, so it is safe to use locally as it won't cause communication > > problems. > > It is not safe to use

Re: localhost.localdomain

2005-09-26 Thread Bob Proulx
ers I have always removed the "localhost.localdomain" > entry and never encountered any problems. I have always removed the .localdomain part too as part of a normal configuration of the machine after installation. In fact I automate it with scripts so that it consistently happens to my serv

Re: localhost.localdomain

2005-09-24 Thread Russ Allbery
27;ve never seen the dumb localhost.localdomain thing help either, though. INN isn't affected by default but is affected in a few misconfigurations that are exacerbated by this. -- Russ Allbery ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) <http://www.eyrie.org/~eagle/> -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTE

Re: localhost.localdomain

2005-09-24 Thread Christoph Haas
> problems. > > It is not safe to use unregistered domains. and I dont see a reason for > .localdmain at all. Actually I second that. I still haven't seen a reason to use it since I don't understand the "historical reasons". On my servers I have always remov

Re: localhost.localdomain

2005-09-24 Thread Michal Politowski
On Sat, 24 Sep 2005 19:35:09 +0200, Gabor Gombas wrote: [...] > "localdomain" is not a registered top-level domain and hopefully never > will be, so it is safe to use locally as it won't cause communication > problems. Maybe it's relatively safe, but I'd say that it's still safer to use the localh

Re: localhost.localdomain

2005-09-24 Thread Roger Leigh
Christoph Haas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > That's exactly the explanation what I was looking for. I incorrectly > assumed that more than just MySQL is affected. But it appears like other > services do not care about the reverse resolution of 127.0.0.1. This is also the case for CUPS, but is now

Re: localhost.localdomain

2005-09-24 Thread Bernd Eckenfels
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> you wrote: > "localdomain" is not a registered top-level domain and hopefully never > will be, so it is safe to use locally as it won't cause communication > problems. It is not safe to use unregistered domains. and I dont see a reason for .localdmain at all. Gruss

Re: localhost.localdomain

2005-09-24 Thread Christoph Haas
users` > > table. So it sees "127.0.0.1" and looks up "localhost.localdomain" which > > it cannot find since it expects "localhost". > > Well, I don't think it's MySQL that expects "localhost", it's more like > you have a

Re: localhost.localdomain

2005-09-24 Thread Gabor Gombas
On Fri, Sep 23, 2005 at 08:01:05PM +0200, Christoph Haas wrote: > It appears like MySQL does that. It seems to check the IP address of the > connecting client to find the permissions in it's internal `users` > table. So it sees "127.0.0.1" and looks up "localhost.l

Re: localhost.localdomain

2005-09-23 Thread Olaf van der Spek
> > connecting client to find the permissions in it's internal `users` > > > table. So it sees "127.0.0.1" and looks up "localhost.localdomain" which > > > it cannot find since it expects "localhost". > > > > Put % in the host

Re: localhost.localdomain

2005-09-23 Thread Christoph Haas
ers` > > table. So it sees "127.0.0.1" and looks up "localhost.localdomain" which > > it cannot find since it expects "localhost". > > Put % in the host field and base authentication on passwords. http://dev.mysql.com/doc/mysql/en/connection-access

Re: localhost.localdomain

2005-09-23 Thread Olaf van der Spek
On 9/23/05, Christoph Haas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Fri, Sep 23, 2005 at 04:59:52PM +0200, Gabor Gombas wrote: > > On Fri, Sep 23, 2005 at 02:47:58PM +0200, Christoph Haas wrote: > > > ..warning: connect to mysql server foobar: Access denied for user > > >

Re: localhost.localdomain

2005-09-23 Thread Christoph Haas
On Fri, Sep 23, 2005 at 04:59:52PM +0200, Gabor Gombas wrote: > On Fri, Sep 23, 2005 at 02:47:58PM +0200, Christoph Haas wrote: > > ..warning: connect to mysql server foobar: Access denied for user > > 'whoever'@'localhost.localdomain' (using password: YES) >

Re: localhost.localdomain

2005-09-23 Thread Gabor Gombas
On Fri, Sep 23, 2005 at 02:47:58PM +0200, Christoph Haas wrote: > ..warning: connect to mysql server foobar: Access denied for user > 'whoever'@'localhost.localdomain' (using password: YES) Well, I had seen several machines having "127.0.0.1 localhost.localdoma

localhost.localdomain

2005-09-23 Thread Christoph Haas
Howdy... is there a reason that the default entry for 127.0.0.1 in /etc/hosts reads "127.0.0.1 localhost.localdomain localhost"? This has hit me several times and is especially problematic when accessing a MySQL database locally. MySQL quickly complains like this: ..warning: connec