Re: Bug#737634: dpkg: is_native version checks in dpkg 3.0 Native

2014-02-11 Thread Charles Plessy
Le Wed, Feb 05, 2014 at 09:08:04PM +0100, Guillem Jover a écrit : > > Sorry, I should have added here my usual note about being open to > reconsideration *if* convincing arguments are put forward. But I > was pretty much unimpressed with the way this had been brought up. > Way more so now with the

Re: Bug#737634: dpkg: is_native version checks in dpkg 3.0 Native

2014-02-05 Thread Dimitri John Ledkov
On 5 February 2014 20:08, Guillem Jover wrote: > Hi! > > On Wed, 2014-02-05 at 13:54:17 +, Ian Jackson wrote: >> Guillem writes, on the bug but not on debian-devel: >> > Part of the definition of what's and what's not a native package is >> > the version scheme, and I've never considered that

Re: dpkg: is_native version checks in dpkg 3.0 Native

2014-02-05 Thread Russ Allbery
Sam Hartman writes: > However, I cannot read that text to imply anything about what happens if > the Debian revision is present: > * Policy seems silent on whether the software MAY?SHOULD NOT/MUST NOT be > written explicitly for Debian (I consider this a feature) > * Policy appears silent abo

Re: dpkg: is_native version checks in dpkg 3.0 Native

2014-02-05 Thread Sam Hartman
> "Russ" == Russ Allbery writes: >> Citation requested. I looked for this today and couldn't find >> it. Russ> Policy lacks a section that clearly defines native and Russ> non-native packages, which is a long-standing bug in Policy. Russ> Currently, that information is i

Re: dpkg: is_native version checks in dpkg 3.0 Native

2014-02-05 Thread Sam Hartman
> "Russ" == Russ Allbery writes: Russ> Ian Jackson writes: >> Secondly, there doesn't appear to be any support in policy for >> this restriction. Russ> Policy definitely supports this restriction, as Guillem Russ> pointed out. I want to echo that analysis as one of the

Re: dpkg: is_native version checks in dpkg 3.0 Native

2014-02-05 Thread Russ Allbery
Sam Hartman writes: >> "Russ" == Russ Allbery writes: > Russ> Ian Jackson writes: > >> Secondly, there doesn't appear to be any support in policy for > >> this restriction. > Russ> Policy definitely supports this restriction, as Guillem > Russ> pointed out. I want to e

Re: dpkg: is_native version checks in dpkg 3.0 Native

2014-02-05 Thread Russ Allbery
Ian Jackson writes: > Secondly, there doesn't appear to be any support in policy for this > restriction. Policy definitely supports this restriction, as Guillem pointed out. I want to echo that analysis as one of the people to have touched that portion of the Policy document. I have always con

Re: Bug#737634: dpkg: is_native version checks in dpkg 3.0 Native

2014-02-05 Thread Guillem Jover
Hi! On Wed, 2014-02-05 at 13:54:17 +, Ian Jackson wrote: > Guillem writes, on the bug but not on debian-devel: > > Part of the definition of what's and what's not a native package is > > the version scheme, and I've never considered that a Debian specific > > thing specified by its policy. The

dpkg: is_native version checks in dpkg 3.0 Native

2014-02-05 Thread Ian Jackson
Guillem writes, on the bug but not on debian-devel: > Part of the definition of what's and what's not a native package is > the version scheme, and I've never considered that a Debian specific > thing specified by its policy. The fact that dpkg-source has been > sloppy in the past for format 1.0 do