Defaults and virtual package rules (was: default softphone in Debian stretch)

2016-01-16 Thread Bas Wijnen
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Sat, Jan 16, 2016 at 01:48:46PM +0100, Daniel Pocock wrote: > On 15/01/16 14:20, Bas Wijnen wrote: > > On Fri, Jan 15, 2016 at 11:08:35AM +0100, Daniel Pocock wrote: > >> On 15/01/16 04:00, Paul Wise wrote: > >>> On Tue, Jan 12, 2016 at 5:42 PM, Dan

Re: default softphone in Debian stretch

2016-01-16 Thread Ansgar Burchardt
Daniel Pocock writes: > On 15/01/16 14:20, Bas Wijnen wrote: >> On Fri, Jan 15, 2016 at 11:08:35AM +0100, Daniel Pocock wrote: >>> If there are meta-packages (e.g. sip-client, xmpp-client), should >>> any softphone be able to assert that it provides sip-client? Or >>> should there be some quality

Re: default softphone in Debian stretch

2016-01-16 Thread Daniel Pocock
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 On 15/01/16 14:20, Bas Wijnen wrote: > On Fri, Jan 15, 2016 at 11:08:35AM +0100, Daniel Pocock wrote: > > >> On 15/01/16 04:00, Paul Wise wrote: >>> On Tue, Jan 12, 2016 at 5:42 PM, Daniel Pocock wrote: >>> default softphone in Debian[1] >>

Re: default softphone in Debian stretch

2016-01-15 Thread Bas Wijnen
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Fri, Jan 15, 2016 at 11:08:35AM +0100, Daniel Pocock wrote: > > > On 15/01/16 04:00, Paul Wise wrote: > > On Tue, Jan 12, 2016 at 5:42 PM, Daniel Pocock wrote: > > > >> default softphone in Debian[1] > > > > It should be up to the user what comm

Re: default softphone in Debian stretch

2016-01-15 Thread Daniel Pocock
On 15/01/16 04:00, Paul Wise wrote: > On Tue, Jan 12, 2016 at 5:42 PM, Daniel Pocock wrote: > >> default softphone in Debian[1] > > It should be up to the user what communications tools they want to use > and or have installed (if any), that is none of our business, other > than perhaps informi

Re: default softphone in Debian stretch

2016-01-14 Thread Paul Wise
On Tue, Jan 12, 2016 at 5:42 PM, Daniel Pocock wrote: > default softphone in Debian[1] It should be up to the user what communications tools they want to use and or have installed (if any), that is none of our business, other than perhaps informing them of the security properties of what is avail

Re: default softphone in Debian stretch

2016-01-14 Thread Daniel Pocock
On 14/01/16 20:00, Michael Banck wrote: > On Thu, Jan 14, 2016 at 07:29:48PM +0100, Daniel Pocock wrote: >> On 14/01/16 17:10, Iain R. Learmonth wrote: >>> It would make sense that if upstreams for desktop environments do not >>> recommend a softphone, that Debian includes a softphone with the de

Re: default softphone in Debian stretch

2016-01-14 Thread Michael Banck
On Thu, Jan 14, 2016 at 07:29:48PM +0100, Daniel Pocock wrote: > On 14/01/16 17:10, Iain R. Learmonth wrote: > > It would make sense that if upstreams for desktop environments do not > > recommend a softphone, that Debian includes a softphone with the desktop > > environment's task package that is

Re: default softphone in Debian stretch

2016-01-14 Thread Daniel Pocock
On 14/01/16 17:10, Iain R. Learmonth wrote: > Hi, > > On Tue, Jan 12, 2016 at 10:42:06AM +0100, Daniel Pocock wrote: >> Nothing really changed, the thread appeared to fizzle out with comments >> from more than one person that Debian would ship whatever was >> recommended by the desktop maintaine

Re: default softphone in Debian stretch

2016-01-14 Thread Iain R. Learmonth
Hi, On Tue, Jan 12, 2016 at 10:42:06AM +0100, Daniel Pocock wrote: > Nothing really changed, the thread appeared to fizzle out with comments > from more than one person that Debian would ship whatever was > recommended by the desktop maintainers / GNOME upstream[2] I think for the best desktop in

default softphone in Debian stretch

2016-01-12 Thread Daniel Pocock
Before the jessie release, I started a thread about the default softphone in Debian[1] Nothing really changed, the thread appeared to fizzle out with comments from more than one person that Debian would ship whatever was recommended by the desktop maintainers / GNOME upstream[2] GNOME upstream h