Re: copyright vs. license

2005-01-13 Thread Ben Pfaff
John Hasler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > There could be if you do so in a way that could be construed as an attempt > to fraudulently extend the life of the copyright. At the moment it seems doubtful that any current copyright will ever expire. -- Ben Pfaff email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] web: http:/

Re: copyright vs. license

2005-01-13 Thread Thomas Bushnell BSG
John Hasler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Thomas writes: > > It should be every year that the work was published. (If you publish in > > year N, then modify and publish the new thing in year M, you should list > > both years.) > > > There is no harm in listing extra years. > > There could be if

Re: copyright vs. license

2005-01-13 Thread John Hasler
Thomas writes: > It should be every year that the work was published. (If you publish in > year N, then modify and publish the new thing in year M, you should list > both years.) > There is no harm in listing extra years. There could be if you do so in a way that could be construed as an attempt

Re: copyright vs. license

2005-01-13 Thread Thomas Bushnell BSG
Shaun Jackman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > > Shouldn't you include a year? > > > > > > It's not required. And I get bored by updating them. > > > > The year should be included. Here is a reference: > > http://www.copyright.gov/circs/circ1.html > > If only one year is listed in a source fil

Re: copyright vs. license

2005-01-13 Thread Shaun Jackman
> > > Shouldn't you include a year? > > > > It's not required. And I get bored by updating them. > > The year should be included. Here is a reference: > http://www.copyright.gov/circs/circ1.html If only one year is listed in a source file / copyright file, should it be the first year the work st

Re: copyright vs. license

2005-01-13 Thread Daniel Burrows
On Thursday 13 January 2005 11:18 am, Thomas Bushnell BSG wrote: > Ben Pfaff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > Thomas Bushnell BSG <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > > [updating copyright years] > > > > > I have a handy-dandy emacs lisp frob that will do this automagically > > > for you if you like. >

Re: copyright vs. license

2005-01-13 Thread Andrew Suffield
On Thu, Jan 13, 2005 at 11:27:12AM -0800, Thomas Bushnell BSG wrote: > Andrew Suffield <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > Like I care about that stuff. All I could ever want from copyright on > > a GPLed work is an injunction to stop violating it. > > Actually, you can even fail to get that in pra

Re: copyright vs. license

2005-01-13 Thread Thomas Bushnell BSG
Andrew Suffield <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Like I care about that stuff. All I could ever want from copyright on > a GPLed work is an injunction to stop violating it. Actually, you can even fail to get that in practice. Really, just put the date; it's not too much trouble. -- To UNSUBSCRIB

Re: copyright vs. license

2005-01-13 Thread Andrew Suffield
On Thu, Jan 13, 2005 at 11:16:19AM -0800, Thomas Bushnell BSG wrote: > Andrew Suffield <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > On Thu, Jan 13, 2005 at 09:08:37AM -0800, Thomas Bushnell BSG wrote: > > > Andrew Suffield <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > > > > > It's not required. And I get bored by updat

Re: copyright vs. license

2005-01-13 Thread Thomas Bushnell BSG
Ben Pfaff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Thomas Bushnell BSG <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > [updating copyright years] > > I have a handy-dandy emacs lisp frob that will do this automagically > > for you if you like. > > I would like this. ;; When we save a file with a GPL copyright, prompt to

Re: copyright vs. license

2005-01-13 Thread Thomas Bushnell BSG
Andrew Suffield <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On Thu, Jan 13, 2005 at 09:08:37AM -0800, Thomas Bushnell BSG wrote: > > Andrew Suffield <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > > > It's not required. And I get bored by updating them. > > > > Yes, the year is required, and moreover, you need to add a new

Re: copyright vs. license

2005-01-13 Thread Jens Peter Secher
Thomas Bushnell BSG <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Andrew Suffield <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > >> It's not required. And I get bored by updating them. > > Yes, the year is required, and moreover, you need to add a new year > every time there is a new publication in a year not already mentioned >

Re: copyright vs. license

2005-01-13 Thread Andrew Suffield
On Thu, Jan 13, 2005 at 09:08:37AM -0800, Thomas Bushnell BSG wrote: > Andrew Suffield <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > It's not required. And I get bored by updating them. > > Yes, the year is required, and moreover, you need to add a new year > every time there is a new publication in a year n

Re: copyright vs. license

2005-01-13 Thread Ben Pfaff
Thomas Bushnell BSG <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: [updating copyright years] > I have a handy-dandy emacs lisp frob that will do this automagically > for you if you like. I would like this. -- Ben Pfaff email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] web: http://benpfaff.org -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTEC

Re: copyright vs. license

2005-01-13 Thread John Hasler
Thomas writes: > Yes, the year is required, and moreover, you need to add a new year every > time there is a new publication in a year not already mentioned (without > removing the old years, since the new publication is a derived work). No notice is required by law at all. However, it is a good

Re: copyright vs. license

2005-01-13 Thread Thomas Bushnell BSG
Andrew Suffield <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > It's not required. And I get bored by updating them. Yes, the year is required, and moreover, you need to add a new year every time there is a new publication in a year not already mentioned (without removing the old years, since the new publication i

Re: copyright vs. license

2005-01-13 Thread David Renie
> > Shouldn't you include a year? > > It's not required. And I get bored by updating them. > The year should be included. Here is a reference: http://www.copyright.gov/circs/circ1.html An excerpt: The notice for visually perceptible copies should contain all the following three elements: 1.

Re: copyright vs. license

2005-01-13 Thread Andrew Suffield
On Wed, Jan 12, 2005 at 09:59:55PM -0600, Matthew Dempsky wrote: > Andrew Suffield <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > For a GPLed project, the declaration looks something like this: > > > > * Copyright (C) Andrew Suffield <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Shouldn't you include a year? It's not required.

Re: copyright vs. license

2005-01-12 Thread Matthew Dempsky
Andrew Suffield <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > For a GPLed project, the declaration looks something like this: > > * Copyright (C) Andrew Suffield <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Shouldn't you include a year? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact

Re: copyright vs. license

2005-01-12 Thread Andrew Suffield
On Wed, Jan 12, 2005 at 12:52:06PM -0500, Justin Pryzby wrote: > Hi all, > > I've been manually filing bugs against packages with improper > copyright files, as per this thread: > > http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel/2004/03/msg02190.html The example here is not a good one. While it's not de

Re: copyright vs. license

2005-01-12 Thread Brian M. Carlson
On Wed, 2005-01-12 at 12:52 -0500, Justin Pryzby wrote: > Hi all, > > I've been manually filing bugs against packages with improper > copyright files, as per this thread: > > http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel/2004/03/msg02190.html > > I stopped when I started gettign consecutive bug numbers

Re: copyright vs. license

2005-01-12 Thread Henning Makholm
Scripsit Justin Pryzby <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Copyright: > GPL 2.0 > Copyright: Most recent version of the GPL. > Copyright: > [GPL follows] http://lintian.debian.org/reports/Tcopyright-should-refer-to-common-license-file-for-gpl.html lists 264 packages. Some of the

copyright vs. license

2005-01-12 Thread Justin Pryzby
Hi all, I've been manually filing bugs against packages with improper copyright files, as per this thread: http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel/2004/03/msg02190.html I stopped when I started gettign consecutive bug numbers :) I've been using Severity: normal, although it is arguably a violati