Re: conflict between system user and normal user

2014-02-11 Thread Thorsten Glaser
Simon McVittie debian.org> writes: > If we standardize on "_*" (or capital letters or whatever) for packaged Users with capital letters sometimes cannot receive eMail correctly. (Using _ in my packages since I think the BSDs’ approach sensible.) > accounts, then "adduser --system" could also s

Re: conflict between system user and normal user

2014-02-10 Thread Kevin Chadwick
previously on this list Simon McVittie contributed: > > So I'd agree with the underscore but see the not allowing the local > > sysadmin to create accounts easily with it as a bad thing as they could > > perfectly well want to avoid collisions with packages as much as a > > debian dev. > > A co

Re: conflict between system user and normal user

2014-02-10 Thread Simon McVittie
On 10/02/14 13:46, Kevin Chadwick wrote: > So I'd agree with the underscore but see the not allowing the local > sysadmin to create accounts easily with it as a bad thing as they could > perfectly well want to avoid collisions with packages as much as a > debian dev. A concrete example, please? If

Re: conflict between system user and normal user

2014-02-10 Thread Kevin Chadwick
previously on this list Peter Palfrader contributed: > > I would really like to standardize on some prefix. > > > I like _ as a prefix because adduser doesn't allow the local sysadmin to > > create accounts with that prefix without special flags, which I think > > makes it a more useful reserve

Re: conflict between system user and normal user

2014-02-08 Thread Peter Palfrader
On Sat, 08 Feb 2014, Russ Allbery wrote: > I would really like to standardize on some prefix. > I like _ as a prefix because adduser doesn't allow the local sysadmin to > create accounts with that prefix without special flags, which I think > makes it a more useful reserved namespace. Just a me

Re: conflict between system user and normal user

2014-02-08 Thread Russ Allbery
Jonas Smedegaard writes: > Seems you are essentially talking about this; > usermod -l $NEWNAME $OLDNAME > What would such --rename option to adduser script contain, beyond that? Ah, I was looking in the wrong place. Thanks! I would like something to check that the account is a system accou

Re: conflict between system user and normal user

2014-02-08 Thread Jonas Smedegaard
Quoting Russ Allbery (2014-02-08 22:11:04) > The one piece that we do need if we're going to standardize, on top of > an agreement that standardization is useful, is an adduser --rename > command. There are a bunch of packages in the archive right now that > stomp on the normal account namespace

Re: conflict between system user and normal user

2014-02-08 Thread Russ Allbery
Vincent Bernat writes: > There was no consensus if I remember correctly. And many of the > expressed voices preferred the `Debian-` prefix. As far as I am > concerned, I don't understand why we can't follow systems that have > solved this problem since years by adopting the underscore prefix (*BS

Re: conflict between system user and normal user

2014-02-08 Thread Vincent Bernat
❦ 7 février 2014 10:52 CET, Paul Wise  : >> Choose a name which is less likely to conflict, e.g. exim uses Debian-exim. > > I think consensus was converging on prefixing an underscore for system > users (_foo) last time we discussed this. There was no consensus if I remember correctly. And many

Re: conflict between system user and normal user

2014-02-07 Thread Andreas Beckmann
On 2014-02-07 09:57, PICCA Frederic-Emmanuel wrote: > during the installation I generate a .my.cnf in the system user tango home > which I set under > /usr/lib/tango in the package That should be under /var, not /usr, especially if you dynamically generate stuff there. And if that is a configura

Re: conflict between system user and normal user

2014-02-07 Thread Neil Williams
On Fri, 7 Feb 2014 10:15:18 + PICCA Frederic-Emmanuel wrote: > > I don't think there is much that can reall be done to fix the > > fundamental problem which is that system users and regular users > > have to live in the same namespace causing a risk of conflicts. > > > There are two things I

Re: conflict between system user and normal user

2014-02-07 Thread Jakub Wilk
* Paul Wise , 2014-02-07, 17:52: Choose a name which is less likely to conflict, e.g. exim uses Debian-exim. I think consensus was converging on prefixing an underscore for system users (_foo) last time we discussed this. Well, #248809 is still open… -- Jakub Wilk -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email t

re: conflict between system user and normal user

2014-02-07 Thread peter green
What is the correct way to deal with this kind of problem ? I cannot find in the policy something about conflict between system and non-system user. I don't think there is much that can reall be done to fix the fundamental problem which is that system users and regular users have to live in

Re: conflict between system user and normal user

2014-02-07 Thread Paul Wise
On Fri, Feb 7, 2014 at 5:48 PM, Neil Williams wrote: > Choose a name which is less likely to conflict, e.g. exim uses Debian-exim. I think consensus was converging on prefixing an underscore for system users (_foo) last time we discussed this. -- bye, pabs http://wiki.debian.org/PaulWise --

Re: conflict between system user and normal user

2014-02-07 Thread Neil Williams
On Fri, 7 Feb 2014 08:57:32 + PICCA Frederic-Emmanuel wrote: > Hello, > > I am the maintainer of the tango package which contain the tango-db > binary. > > This tango-db provide a service called tango-db which connect to a > mysql database. I follow the debian-policy to create a dedicated >

conflict between system user and normal user

2014-02-07 Thread PICCA Frederic-Emmanuel
Hello, I am the maintainer of the tango package which contain the tango-db binary. This tango-db provide a service called tango-db which connect to a mysql database. I follow the debian-policy to create a dedicated system user for this services. So I used the tango user which is the name of the