Re: Embedded Debian (was: compaq iPaq)

2000-08-19 Thread Chris Rutter
On Sat, 19 Aug 2000 09:22:12 Glenn McGrath wrote: > hmm, im not sure its practical to create extra binary packages, wouldnt > it be more effective to exclude files from regular packages as its > installed. I was suggesting that the script would create them on-the-fly -- they wouldn't reside anywh

Re: Embedded Debian (was: compaq iPaq)

2000-08-19 Thread Glenn McGrath
Chris Rutter wrote: > > On Wed, 16 Aug 2000 14:14:24 Ben Armstrong wrote: > > > For the most part, I think there is enough flexibility within Debian to > > pick and choose the smallest tools that will do the job from among the > > binary packages. Where Debian currently falls short, we can creat

Re: Embedded Debian (was: compaq iPaq)

2000-08-18 Thread Chris Rutter
On Wed, 16 Aug 2000 14:14:24 Ben Armstrong wrote: > For the most part, I think there is enough flexibility within Debian to > pick and choose the smallest tools that will do the job from among the > binary packages. Where Debian currently falls short, we can create -tiny > versions of packages as

Re: Embedded Debian (was: compaq iPaq)

2000-08-18 Thread Joseph Carter
I'm not certain that trying to cram OS config into a kernel config tool is the right idea, but I do agree that the concept is effective. What about a more generalized framework for this sort of thing to build a disk image for a highly customized embedded Debian system? Take a subdirectory and put

Re: Embedded Debian (was: compaq iPaq)

2000-08-16 Thread Erik Andersen
Quoting Ben Armstrong <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > sort of configuration at compile-time would be a useful. Is busybox used > anywhere else in Debian? It's curious that busybox isn't packaged > separately. For woody, we are creating a new section of the Debian archive for the debian-installer (new

RE: Embedded Debian (was: compaq iPaq)

2000-08-16 Thread Eric Molitor
Ag, evil. If you plan to use busybox upgrade to .46 there are some serious problems with .45 in regards to tar and nfs. On Wed, 16 Aug 2000, Frank Smith wrote: > > Hi Ben, > > Ben Armstrong wrote: > > > anywhere else in Debian? It's curious that busybox isn't packaged > > separately. > > A

RE: Embedded Debian (was: compaq iPaq)

2000-08-16 Thread Frank Smith
Hi Ben, Ben Armstrong wrote: > anywhere else in Debian? It's curious that busybox isn't packaged > separately. Actually, a few weeks ago Erik Anderson wrote to tell me: >>FYI, I just uploaded >>busybox_0.45-1_i386.deb >>busybox-static_0.45-1_i386.deb >>busybox_0.45-1_i386.changes

Re: Embedded Debian (was: compaq iPaq)

2000-08-16 Thread Ben Armstrong
On Wed, 16 Aug 2000, Matthew Franz wrote: > Would its "raw material" be pre-compiled debian binary packages or would > it be able to build the system from source. Unless there were separate > embedded .debs, I don't know that the standard binaries would be compact > enough to support limited memor

RE: Embedded Debian (was: compaq iPaq)

2000-08-16 Thread Frank Smith
Matthew Franz wrote: > > Frank, > > I think the OS-builder app is a great idea. > > Would its "raw material" be pre-compiled debian binary packages or would My first pass at this will be based on snarfing pre-compiled binary packages. Simply Q&D, but probably useful to a lot of people. > i

Re: Embedded Debian (was: compaq iPaq)

2000-08-16 Thread Matthew Franz
> > 2. Generation > - > > I can imagine many different ways of building the operating system image. > > The one I'll be working on initially is a "Snarf 'n' Pick" implementation. > Basically it will work by snarfing Debian packages and picking subsets of > files from the packages. T

Embedded Debian (was: compaq iPaq)

2000-08-16 Thread Frank Smith
Wookey [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > On Wed 16 Aug, Jason Gunthorpe wrote: > > > > On Tue, 15 Aug 2000, Joey Hess wrote: > > > > > It's been pointed out that emdebian (http://www.emdebian.org/) is > > > essentilly an effort to do just this. [shrink debian to fit > > > handhelds] > > > > It

Re: compaq iPaq

2000-08-16 Thread Wookey
On Wed 16 Aug, Jason Gunthorpe wrote: > > On Tue, 15 Aug 2000, Joey Hess wrote: > > > It's been pointed out that emdebian (http://www.emdebian.org/) is > > essentilly an effort to do just this. [shrink debian to fit > > handhelds] > > It is? I use their stuff and the main focus is cross compiler

Re: compaq iPaq

2000-08-16 Thread Joey Hess
Jason Gunthorpe wrote: > It is? I use their stuff and the main focus is cross compilers and cross > environments for debian, not really shrinking and porting debian proper. Well right now that's true, but it does seem to have grand goals of shrinking Debian to a few MB and so on. -- see shy jo

Re: compaq iPaq

2000-08-16 Thread Jason Gunthorpe
On Tue, 15 Aug 2000, Joey Hess wrote: > It's been pointed out that emdebian (http://www.emdebian.org/) is > essentilly an effort to do just this. It is? I use their stuff and the main focus is cross compilers and cross environments for debian, not really shrinking and porting debian proper. Th

Re: compaq iPaq

2000-08-16 Thread Joey Hess
It's been pointed out that emdebian (http://www.emdebian.org/) is essentilly an effort to do just this. -- see shy jo

compaq iPaq

2000-08-16 Thread Joey Hess
[ Please reply to debian-arm and me (I'm not on that list). Posted to -devel to pick up any interested people who arn't on -arm. ] For those who don't know, the iPaq is a ARM-based pocket computer near the size of a palm pilot, that runs linux[1], including X. It has 32 MB of ram, and 16 MB of