Re: bug reports with urls in them

2012-04-02 Thread Michael Welle
Hello, m...@linux.it (Marco d'Itri) writes: > On Apr 02, Michael Welle wrote: > >> In life I tend to look for role models above me, not below me. Why >> imitate people or companies that do a bad job? We can do better. And of >> course, to come back to my initial email, I doubt that using the >>

Re: bug reports with urls in them

2012-04-02 Thread Marco d'Itri
On Apr 02, Michael Welle wrote: > In life I tend to look for role models above me, not below me. Why > imitate people or companies that do a bad job? We can do better. And of > course, to come back to my initial email, I doubt that using the > blacklist service makes anything easier for Debian. N

Re: bug reports with urls in them

2012-04-02 Thread Stefano Zacchiroli
On Mon, Apr 02, 2012 at 09:35:53AM +0200, Michael Welle wrote: > > So comparing Debian to a commercial organisation doesn't support your case > > at > > all. Commercial organisations are more than willing to reject some > > customers > > if it makes things easy for them. > > In life I tend to

Re: bug reports with urls in them

2012-04-02 Thread Michael Welle
Hello, Russell Coker writes: > On Mon, 2 Apr 2012, Michael Welle wrote: >> I agree only partly with that. Losing a bug report or two is one >> thing. Imagine a potential or actual customer sending an email to a >> company and getting a response like: 'Well, we don't know on which data >> we for

Re: bug reports with urls in them

2012-04-01 Thread Russell Coker
On Mon, 2 Apr 2012, Michael Welle wrote: > I agree only partly with that. Losing a bug report or two is one > thing. Imagine a potential or actual customer sending an email to a > company and getting a response like: 'Well, we don't know on which data > we form our opinion, but we think you are a

Re: bug reports with urls in them

2012-04-01 Thread Michael Welle
Hello, Fernando Lemos writes: > Hi, > > On Sun, Apr 1, 2012 at 8:45 AM, Michael Welle wrote: >> Hello, >> >> Michael Banck writes: >> >>> On Sun, Apr 01, 2012 at 11:31:49AM +0200, Michael Welle wrote: Anyways, what if I want to report a bug that happens if I use foo.org? >>> >>> We can di

Re: bug reports with urls in them

2012-04-01 Thread Ben Pfaff
Fernando Lemos writes: > On Sun, Apr 1, 2012 at 8:45 AM, Michael Welle wrote: >> Michael Banck writes: >> >>> On Sun, Apr 01, 2012 at 11:31:49AM +0200, Michael Welle wrote: Anyways, what if I want to report a bug that happens if I use foo.org? >>> >>> We can discuss this again once this is

Re: bug reports with urls in them

2012-04-01 Thread Fernando Lemos
Hi, On Sun, Apr 1, 2012 at 8:45 AM, Michael Welle wrote: > Hello, > > Michael Banck writes: > >> On Sun, Apr 01, 2012 at 11:31:49AM +0200, Michael Welle wrote: >>> Anyways, what if I want to report a bug that happens if I use foo.org? >> >> We can discuss this again once this is actually the cas

Re: bug reports with urls in them

2012-04-01 Thread Michael Welle
Hello, Michael Banck writes: > On Sun, Apr 01, 2012 at 11:31:49AM +0200, Michael Welle wrote: >> Anyways, what if I want to report a bug that happens if I use foo.org? > > We can discuss this again once this is actually the case. chances that users without technical background come back and repo

Re: bug reports with urls in them

2012-04-01 Thread Michael Banck
On Sun, Apr 01, 2012 at 11:31:49AM +0200, Michael Welle wrote: > Anyways, what if I want to report a bug that happens if I use foo.org? We can discuss this again once this is actually the case. Regards, Michael -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-devel-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject

Re: bug reports with urls in them

2012-04-01 Thread Michael Welle
Hello, Andrey Rahmatullin writes: > On Sun, Apr 01, 2012 at 11:20:04AM +0200, Michael Welle wrote: >> >> I just tried to report a bug. To show how one can reproduce >> >> the bug I needed an url, I chose www.foo.org for that purpose. >> > See RFC2606. >> so you suggest a Debian user should consu

Re: bug reports with urls in them

2012-04-01 Thread Michael Welle
Hello, Russ Allbery writes: > Michael Welle writes: > >> I just tried to report a bug. To show how one can reproduce >> the bug I needed an url, I chose www.foo.org for that purpose. The >> result: > >> : >> 140.211.15.34 failed after I sent the message. >> Remote host said: 550-Blacklisted URL

Re: bug reports with urls in them

2012-04-01 Thread Andrey Rahmatullin
On Sun, Apr 01, 2012 at 11:22:59AM +0200, Michael Welle wrote: > >> I just tried to report a bug. To show how one can reproduce > >> the bug I needed an url, I chose www.foo.org for that purpose. > > You have example.com just for that. > > > >> : > >> 140.211.15.34 failed after I sent the message.

Re: bug reports with urls in them

2012-04-01 Thread Michael Welle
Hello, Andrey Rahmatullin writes: > On Sun, Apr 01, 2012 at 11:11:11AM +0200, Michael Welle wrote: >> I just tried to report a bug. To show how one can reproduce >> the bug I needed an url, I chose www.foo.org for that purpose. > You have example.com just for that. > >> : >> 140.211.15.34 failed

Re: bug reports with urls in them

2012-04-01 Thread Andrey Rahmatullin
On Sun, Apr 01, 2012 at 11:20:04AM +0200, Michael Welle wrote: > >> I just tried to report a bug. To show how one can reproduce > >> the bug I needed an url, I chose www.foo.org for that purpose. > > See RFC2606. > so you suggest a Debian user should consult RFCs before reporting a bug > in some so

Re: bug reports with urls in them

2012-04-01 Thread Michael Welle
Hello, martin f krafft writes: > also sprach Michael Welle [2012.04.01. +0200]: >> I just tried to report a bug. To show how one can reproduce >> the bug I needed an url, I chose www.foo.org for that purpose. > > See RFC2606. so you suggest a Debian user should consult RFCs before reporting

Re: bug reports with urls in them

2012-04-01 Thread Russ Allbery
Michael Welle writes: > I just tried to report a bug. To show how one can reproduce > the bug I needed an url, I chose www.foo.org for that purpose. The > result: > : > 140.211.15.34 failed after I sent the message. > Remote host said: 550-Blacklisted URL in message. (foo.org) in [black]. See >

Re: bug reports with urls in them

2012-04-01 Thread Andrey Rahmatullin
On Sun, Apr 01, 2012 at 11:11:11AM +0200, Michael Welle wrote: > I just tried to report a bug. To show how one can reproduce > the bug I needed an url, I chose www.foo.org for that purpose. You have example.com just for that. > : > 140.211.15.34 failed after I sent the message. > Remote host said:

Re: bug reports with urls in them

2012-04-01 Thread martin f krafft
also sprach Michael Welle [2012.04.01. +0200]: > I just tried to report a bug. To show how one can reproduce > the bug I needed an url, I chose www.foo.org for that purpose. See RFC2606. -- .''`. martin f. krafft Related projects: : :' : proud Debian developer http:

bug reports with urls in them

2012-04-01 Thread Michael Welle
Hello, I just tried to report a bug. To show how one can reproduce the bug I needed an url, I chose www.foo.org for that purpose. The result: : 140.211.15.34 failed after I sent the message. Remote host said: 550-Blacklisted URL in message. (foo.org) in [black]. See 550 http://lookup.uribl.com.