On Mon, Nov 30, 2009 at 5:20 PM, Tim Retout wrote:
> Ian, please see the thread starting at:
> http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel/2009/11/msg01034.html
>
> In short, Debian must rename at least one of the binaries called 'pip'.
>
> My first thought was to rename the perl pip because it was a mo
On Tue, Dec 01, 2009 at 08:29:48AM +0100, Frank Lin PIAT wrote:
> Why (perl) pip popcon suddenly[1] reached 68? Is it due to the new
> version, or is it due to people installing it by mistake?
The Debian 'pip' package from 2002 was not the same program as
today's 'pip'; that one eventually got rem
On Sun, 2009-11-29 at 21:17 -0500, Jonathan Yu wrote:
> Hi:
>
> [Cc'ing Adam Kennedy since I'm not sure if he's subscribed to debian-devel]
>
> Since Adam mentions that Perl's pip predates Python's pip by a
> significant margin, I think we should close this issue by renaming
> Python's installer
[Resending to Ian Bicking's direct email address, since the
virtualenv list address bounced.]
On Mon, Nov 30, 2009 at 09:49:18AM +, Tim Retout wrote:
> On Mon, Nov 30, 2009 at 12:01:51PM +1100, Adam Kennedy wrote:
> > http://blog.ianbicking.org/2008/10/28/pyinstall-is-dead-long-live-pip/
> >
On Mon, Nov 30, 2009 at 04:02:13AM +0100, Cyril Brulebois wrote:
> Mentioning $LANG in the binary is the way to go. Bonus points if
> obfuscated. What about pip, pipp, and ppip? Then, you even get room
> for php!
At the risk of sounding like a killjoy, I do not feel that sarcasm is an
effective me
[CCing to python-pip upstream. Ian et. al.: please see
http://bugs.debian.org/551926 for the context of this email. In
short, Debian needs to rename at least one of the 'pip' binaries.]
On Mon, Nov 30, 2009 at 12:01:51PM +1100, Adam Kennedy wrote:
> http://blog.ianbicking.org/2008/10/28/pyinstall
Jonathan Yu (29/11/2009):
> An alternative arrangement I'd be open to is: /usr/bin/pip points to
> a sh script, which tells the user that `pip' has been renamed to
> perl-pip and python-pip in Debian. This way, neither pip gets the
> /usr/bin/pip name.
Mentioning $LANG in the binary is the way to
Hi:
[Cc'ing Adam Kennedy since I'm not sure if he's subscribed to debian-devel]
Since Adam mentions that Perl's pip predates Python's pip by a
significant margin, I think we should close this issue by renaming
Python's installer back to pyinstall. It doesn't seem fair for someone
who came on the
http://blog.ianbicking.org/2008/10/28/pyinstall-is-dead-long-live-pip/
The Perl package predates the Python one by several years.
The author was made aware of the clash well before it was shipped to
Debian and chose to continue anyway.
Adam K
2009/11/30 Tim Retout :
> [Resending to the *actual*
[Resending to the *actual* debian-devel address. :) D'oh.]
According to Debian Policy 10.1 [*], when two binaries have different
functionality but the same name, this should be reported to the
debian-devel mailing list.
[*] http://www.debian.org/doc/debian-policy/ch-files.html#s10.1
In this case
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