Re: apt-findremovable v0.1 (initial release)

2006-10-13 Thread Marc Haber
On Sat, 7 Oct 2006 18:32:08 +0200, Michelle Konzack <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >Am 2006-10-06 18:06:47, schrieb Mikhail Gusarov: >> Do aptitude checks terminal even for 'aptitude install' or 'aptitude >> search'? > >Good question! The two offending Servers use Monocrom-Graficcards. >Maybe aptitud

Re: apt-findremovable v0.1 (initial release)

2006-10-11 Thread Jan Kechel
Peter Palfrader wrote: > Ever tried the simulate button in the orphaner frontend? I don't know > apt-findremovable's UI but I very much like orphaner's. But then I > might be just slightly biased. :) don't care about apt-findremovable anymore, debfoster does it's job much better :) > Peter Jan

Re: apt-findremovable v0.1 (initial release)

2006-10-11 Thread Peter Palfrader
On Thu, 05 Oct 2006, Jan Kechel wrote: > Brian May wrote: > >> "Jan" == Jan Kechel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > > > > Jan> I wrote a little perl-script: > > > > How does this compare with deborphan? > > > > deborphan shows you the 'leave' packages of your dependency-tree > > apt

Re: apt-findremovable v0.1 (initial release)

2006-10-11 Thread Ionut Georgescu
On Sat, Oct 07, 2006 at 06:32:08PM +0200, Michelle Konzack wrote: > Am 2006-10-06 18:06:47, schrieb Mikhail Gusarov: > > Do aptitude checks terminal even for 'aptitude install' or 'aptitude > > search'? > > Good question! The two offending Servers use Monocrom-Graficcards. > Maybe aptitude can no

Re: apt-findremovable v0.1 (initial release)

2006-10-10 Thread Gabor Gombas
On Sat, Oct 07, 2006 at 06:30:33PM +0200, Michelle Konzack wrote: > If I tell the Maintainer: "I am connecting over ssh2 using keys > to two of my servers in Tehran, I want to install something and > I choose aptitude for better searching, aptitude crashs and kill > the ssh session", he/she will c

Re: apt-findremovable v0.1 (initial release)

2006-10-10 Thread Alexander Sack
On Sat, Oct 07, 2006 at 06:30:33PM +0200, Michelle Konzack wrote: > > > If aptitude kills your ssh session, I'd be inclined to believe more was > > wrong > > on your machine than just aptitude, but I guess that's up to whoever ends up > > debugging this to find out. > > The problem is, that the

Re: apt-findremovable v0.1 (initial release)

2006-10-10 Thread Michelle Konzack
Am 2006-10-06 18:06:47, schrieb Mikhail Gusarov: > Do aptitude checks terminal even for 'aptitude install' or 'aptitude > search'? Good question! The two offending Servers use Monocrom-Graficcards. Maybe aptitude can not enter a colormode and crash? Thanks, Greetings and nice Day Michelle Ko

Re: apt-findremovable v0.1 (initial release)

2006-10-10 Thread Michelle Konzack
Am 2006-10-06 12:34:35, schrieb Steinar H. Gunderson: > On Thu, Oct 05, 2006 at 02:42:43AM +0200, Michelle Konzack wrote: > > And HOW do you install/remove packages if the TUI from aptitude crashs? > > You file a bug at the appropriate severity against aptitude? A bugreport about what? If I tell

Re: apt-findremovable v0.1 (initial release)

2006-10-06 Thread Ben Finney
Michelle Konzack <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Am 2006-10-04 18:08:50, schrieb Alexey Feldgendler: > > > Why not just stop using apt-get? aptitude can do everything the > > same as apt-get and even supports the same command line > > parameters. > > And HOW do you install/remove packages if the TUI

Re: apt-findremovable v0.1 (initial release)

2006-10-06 Thread Mikhail Gusarov
You ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: MK> ...and if you have a computer on which aptitude do not want to MK> run in the terminal? I have two Servers where this is the case. Do aptitude checks terminal even for 'aptitude install' or 'aptitude search'? -- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTEC

Re: apt-findremovable v0.1 (initial release)

2006-10-06 Thread Steinar H. Gunderson
On Thu, Oct 05, 2006 at 02:42:43AM +0200, Michelle Konzack wrote: > And HOW do you install/remove packages if the TUI from aptitude crashs? You file a bug at the appropriate severity against aptitude? > I do not know how aptitude is working and whether it use ncurses or > slang but it segfaults a

Re: apt-findremovable v0.1 (initial release)

2006-10-06 Thread Michelle Konzack
Am 2006-10-04 15:38:18, schrieb Rolf Kutz: > apt-get is faster and uses less resources. I have a IBM TP760ED (233Mhz, 128 MB) where aptitude need arround 3 minutes to let me do anything... Thanks, Greetings and nice Day Michelle Konzack Systemadministrator Tamay Dogan Network Deb

Re: apt-findremovable v0.1 (initial release)

2006-10-06 Thread Michelle Konzack
Am 2006-10-04 18:08:50, schrieb Alexey Feldgendler: > Why not just stop using apt-get? aptitude can do everything the > same as apt-get and even supports the same command line parameters. And HOW do you install/remove packages if the TUI from aptitude crashs? I do not know how aptitude is working

Re: apt-findremovable v0.1 (initial release)

2006-10-06 Thread Michelle Konzack
Am 2006-10-04 16:00:28, schrieb Mike Hommey: > Interesting... here, it tends to be the contrary. apt-get wants to > install a whole lot of packages on dist-upgrade, while aptitude is able > to pull the minimum required. Not here. Only the bare minimum. [ '/etc/apt/apt.conf' ]---

Re: apt-findremovable v0.1 (initial release)

2006-10-06 Thread Michelle Konzack
Am 2006-10-03 16:26:46, schrieb Michal Cihar: > deborphan looks simmilar to what you describe. Anyway if you use > aptitude instead of apt-get it tracks all that automatically and you > don't have to guess. ...and if you have a computer on which aptitude do not want to run in the terminal? I hav

Re: apt-findremovable v0.1 (initial release)

2006-10-05 Thread Jan Kechel
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: RIPEMD160 Brian May wrote: >> "Jan" == Jan Kechel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > Jan> I wrote a little perl-script: > > How does this compare with deborphan? > deborphan shows you the 'leave' packages of your dependency-tree apt-findremovab

Re: apt-findremovable v0.1 (initial release)

2006-10-04 Thread Brian May
> "Alexey" == Alexey Feldgendler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Alexey> On Wed, 04 Oct 2006 18:07:02 +0700, Raphael Hertzog Alexey> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>> Some of us are partial to apt-get and would appreciate >>> apt-findremovable. >> I would rather appreciate that a

Re: apt-findremovable v0.1 (initial release)

2006-10-04 Thread Brian May
> "Jan" == Jan Kechel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Jan> I wrote a little perl-script: How does this compare with deborphan? Package: deborphan Priority: optional Section: admin Installed-Size: 176 Maintainer: Peter Palfrader <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Architecture: i386 Version: 1.7.15 Depends:

Re: apt-findremovable v0.1 (initial release)

2006-10-04 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
Gabor Gombas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On Tue, Oct 03, 2006 at 10:23:21PM +0700, Alexey Feldgendler wrote: > >> Seems like debfoster does what you need. However, it's considered obsolete >> now that aptitude takes care of unused packages. > > debfoster (2.6-1) unstable; urgency=low > > * N

Re: apt-findremovable v0.1 (initial release)

2006-10-04 Thread Gabor Gombas
On Wed, Oct 04, 2006 at 01:07:02PM +0200, Raphael Hertzog wrote: > I would rather appreciate that apt-get and aptitude share the information > of which packages have been explicitely installed and which have been > automatically installed. I often install packages to play with them a little or ju

Re: apt-findremovable v0.1 (initial release)

2006-10-04 Thread Mike Hommey
On Wed, Oct 04, 2006 at 01:50:59PM +0200, Raphael Hertzog <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Wed, 04 Oct 2006, Alexey Feldgendler wrote: > > On Wed, 04 Oct 2006 18:07:02 +0700, Raphael Hertzog <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > wrote: > > > > >> Some of us are partial to apt-get and would appreciate > > >> ap

Re: apt-findremovable v0.1 (initial release)

2006-10-04 Thread Rolf Kutz
* Quoting Alexey Feldgendler ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): > On Wed, 04 Oct 2006 18:07:02 +0700, Raphael Hertzog <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > >> Some of us are partial to apt-get and would appreciate > >> apt-findremovable. > > > I would rather appreciate that apt-get and aptitude share the information

Re: apt-findremovable v0.1 (initial release)

2006-10-04 Thread Steinar H. Gunderson
On Wed, Oct 04, 2006 at 02:46:39PM +0200, Jan Kechel wrote: > Isn't it just that some prefer apt and some aptitude, and that of course > those that prefer aptitude think that apt-findremovable is obsolete, and > that those that prefer apt not? Just a bit more nitpicking: apt is different from apt-

Re: apt-findremovable v0.1 (initial release)

2006-10-04 Thread Jan Kechel
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: RIPEMD160 > aptitude has this > apt has that > aptitude can't do that > apt can't do this > [...] .. is this always here like this? Isn't it just that some prefer apt and some aptitude, and that of course those that prefer aptitude think that apt-findremo

Re: apt-findremovable v0.1 (initial release)

2006-10-04 Thread Holger Levsen
Hi, On Wednesday 04 October 2006 13:08, Alexey Feldgendler wrote: > Why not just stop using apt-get? aptitude can do everything the same as > apt-get and even supports the same command line parameters. aptitude neither understand "build-dep" nor "source" as command... regards, Holger

Re: apt-findremovable v0.1 (initial release)

2006-10-04 Thread Luca Capello
Hello! On Wed, 04 Oct 2006 13:08:50 +0200, Alexey Feldgendler wrote: > On Wed, 04 Oct 2006 18:07:02 +0700, Raphael Hertzog <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >>> Some of us are partial to apt-get and would appreciate >>> apt-findremovable. > >> I would rather appreciate that apt-get and aptitude share t

Re: apt-findremovable v0.1 (initial release)

2006-10-04 Thread Raphael Hertzog
On Wed, 04 Oct 2006, Alexey Feldgendler wrote: > On Wed, 04 Oct 2006 18:07:02 +0700, Raphael Hertzog <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > >> Some of us are partial to apt-get and would appreciate > >> apt-findremovable. > > > I would rather appreciate that apt-get and aptitude share the information > >

Re: apt-findremovable v0.1 (initial release)

2006-10-04 Thread Alexey Feldgendler
On Wed, 04 Oct 2006 18:07:02 +0700, Raphael Hertzog <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> Some of us are partial to apt-get and would appreciate >> apt-findremovable. > I would rather appreciate that apt-get and aptitude share the information > of which packages have been explicitely installed and which

Re: apt-findremovable v0.1 (initial release)

2006-10-04 Thread Raphael Hertzog
On Tue, 03 Oct 2006, Ron Johnson wrote: > > Cool, didn't know that. > > But it doesn't work for packages that are already installed via apt-get. > > I guess I'll use aptitude instead of apt-get from now on, and try to > > cleanup via apt-findremovable :) > > Some of us are partial to apt-get and w

Re: apt-findremovable v0.1 (initial release)

2006-10-04 Thread Rolf Kutz
* Quoting Steinar H. Gunderson ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): > On Tue, Oct 03, 2006 at 04:13:49PM +0200, Jan Kechel wrote: > > I always had the problem, that if I removed a package via apt-get > > remove, that there were still other packages that only were installed > > because of that package. > > Use ap

Re: apt-findremovable v0.1 (initial release)

2006-10-03 Thread Ron Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 10/03/06 13:37, Eduard Bloch wrote: > #include * Shot (Piotr Szotkowski) [Tue, Oct 03 2006, > 05:11:46PM]: >> Jan Kechel: >> >>> Michal Čihař wrote: [snip] > > Aha... Ok... And how many cobolds do you need to kill to win that > game? (SCNR) s/co

Re: apt-findremovable v0.1 (initial release)

2006-10-03 Thread Gabor Gombas
On Tue, Oct 03, 2006 at 10:23:21PM +0700, Alexey Feldgendler wrote: > Seems like debfoster does what you need. However, it's considered obsolete > now that aptitude takes care of unused packages. debfoster (2.6-1) unstable; urgency=low * New upstream version, new maintainer team. * Revert

Re: apt-findremovable v0.1 (initial release)

2006-10-03 Thread Eduard Bloch
#include * Shot (Piotr Szotkowski) [Tue, Oct 03 2006, 05:11:46PM]: > Jan Kechel: > > > Michal Čihař wrote: > > >> Anyway if you use aptitude instead of apt-get it tracks > >> all that automatically and you don't have to guess. > > > Cool, didn't know that. But it doesn't work for > > packages t

Re: apt-findremovable v0.1 (initial release)

2006-10-03 Thread Michal Čihař
On Tue, 3 Oct 2006 16:34:37 +0200 Hendrik Sattler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Am Dienstag 03 Oktober 2006 16:26 schrieb Michal Čihař: > > if you use > > aptitude instead of apt-get it tracks all that automatically and you > > don't have to guess. > > Only if you also installed the package-to-rem

Re: apt-findremovable v0.1 (initial release)

2006-10-03 Thread Hendrik Sattler
Am Dienstag 03 Oktober 2006 16:26 schrieb Michal Čihař: > if you use > aptitude instead of apt-get it tracks all that automatically and you > don't have to guess. Only if you also installed the package-to-remove with aptitude. HS

Re: apt-findremovable v0.1 (initial release)

2006-10-03 Thread Ron Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 10/03/06 11:01, Jan Kechel wrote: > >>> Some of us are partial to apt-get and would appreciate >>> apt-findremovable. > > cool :) > > I just released v0.2: > http://prevalent-digest.de/apt-findremovable/ > > .. it's getting slower (takes about 1

Re: apt-findremovable v0.1 (initial release)

2006-10-03 Thread Shot (Piotr Szotkowski)
Jan Kechel: > Michal Čihař wrote: >> Anyway if you use aptitude instead of apt-get it tracks >> all that automatically and you don't have to guess. > Cool, didn't know that. But it doesn't work for > packages that are already installed via apt-get. You can mark all packages as installed automat

Re: apt-findremovable v0.1 (initial release)

2006-10-03 Thread Jan Kechel
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: RIPEMD160 > Some of us are partial to apt-get and would appreciate > apt-findremovable. cool :) I just released v0.2: http://prevalent-digest.de/apt-findremovable/ .. it's getting slower (takes about 1min to complete), but now it re-checks, if apt-cache

Re: apt-findremovable v0.1 (initial release)

2006-10-03 Thread Ron Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 10/03/06 09:54, Jan Kechel wrote: > Michal ihaY wrote: >>> deborphan looks simmilar to what you describe. > > yeah, similar, also it finds only the leaves, while apt-findremovable > checks which depends have no other rdepends than the specified on

Re: apt-findremovable v0.1 (initial release)

2006-10-03 Thread Alexey Feldgendler
On Tue, 03 Oct 2006 21:54:09 +0700, Jan Kechel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: deborphan looks simmilar to what you describe. yeah, similar, also it finds only the leaves, while apt-findremovable checks which depends have no other rdepends than the specified one Seems like debfoster does what yo

Re: apt-findremovable v0.1 (initial release)

2006-10-03 Thread Jan Kechel
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: RIPEMD160 Michal Čihař wrote: > deborphan looks simmilar to what you describe. yeah, similar, also it finds only the leaves, while apt-findremovable checks which depends have no other rdepends than the specified one > Anyway if you use > aptitude instead

Re: apt-findremovable v0.1 (initial release)

2006-10-03 Thread Michal Čihař
Hi On Tue, 03 Oct 2006 16:13:49 +0200 Jan Kechel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Does a tool like this already exist? deborphan looks simmilar to what you describe. Anyway if you use aptitude instead of apt-get it tracks all that automatically and you don't have to guess. -- Michal Čihař

Re: apt-findremovable v0.1 (initial release)

2006-10-03 Thread Steinar H. Gunderson
On Tue, Oct 03, 2006 at 04:13:49PM +0200, Jan Kechel wrote: > I always had the problem, that if I removed a package via apt-get > remove, that there were still other packages that only were installed > because of that package. Use aptitude -- it has had this functionality for quite a while now. /

apt-findremovable v0.1 (initial release)

2006-10-03 Thread Jan Kechel
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: RIPEMD160 Hi, I hope this is the right mailinglist for this. I always had the problem, that if I removed a package via apt-get remove, that there were still other packages that only were installed because of that package. I wrote a little perl-script: N