On 2007-06-09, Bastian Blank <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Sat, Jun 09, 2007 at 02:52:04AM +, Oleg Verych wrote:
>> > Based on a relational database it will run faster,
>> First reason is "faster". What if i'll say: based on tmpfs and
>> directory/file structure it will run even faster?
>
> t
On Sat, Jun 09, 2007 at 02:52:04AM +, Oleg Verych wrote:
> > Based on a relational database it will run faster,
> First reason is "faster". What if i'll say: based on tmpfs and
> directory/file structure it will run even faster?
tmpfs is not faster than a real disk. You need the memory anyway
* From: Justin Emmanuel
* Date: Sun, 03 Jun 2007 10:55:01 +0100
Hallo, Justin. Hope, you are still here.
> I am brand new to this mailing list, I joined it because I had an idea
> that I would like to have considered. Moving apt to a relational
> database, for several reasons.
>
> Based on a rela
I'm sorry I don't have more time to comment on this.
On Sun, Jun 03, 2007 at 10:55:01AM +0100, Justin Emmanuel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
was heard to say:
> Based on a relational database it will run faster, also there should be
> some more data stored about the programs to facilitate system restorin
On Monday 04 June 2007 15:23:54 Roger Leigh wrote:
> Sorry, but I fail to see the connection between busybox and sqlite.
> If enabled, sqlite would be part of dpkg, probably either statically
> linked or dynamically loaded. I would think static, for safety.
Doesn't Busybox include an implementati
Neil Williams <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> On Sun, 03 Jun 2007 21:50:24 +0100
> Roger Leigh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>> > No, that's why it is used in some embedded systems. Even so, it has
>> > no place in the rootfs for an embedded system, IMHO. I'd rather not
>> > have to repackage apt to
On Monday 04 June 2007 01:34:01 Neil Williams wrote:
> That could actually be quite difficult - how would you migrate from one
> to the other?
Have the raw files and the sqlite cache on the mirrors. Give the local program
the option to use either. Then you could use the raw files if the sqlite
c
On Sun, 03 Jun 2007 21:50:24 +0100
Roger Leigh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > No, that's why it is used in some embedded systems. Even so, it has
> > no place in the rootfs for an embedded system, IMHO. I'd rather not
> > have to repackage apt to remove this change.
>
> Why would it need to be on
On Sun, 3 Jun 2007 22:45:52 +0200
sean finney <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Sunday 03 June 2007 21:30:26 Josselin Mouette wrote:
> > Even if SQLite is more robust than Berkeley DB, I don't think you
> > could recover anything from a corrupt database. Plain text will
> > always turn out better in
On Sun, Jun 03, 2007 at 11:31:18AM +0100, Neil Williams wrote:
> On Sun, 03 Jun 2007 10:55:01 +0100
> Justin Emmanuel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Based on a relational database it will run faster, also there should be
> > some more data stored about the programs to facilitate system restoring.
>
On Sun, Jun 03, 2007 at 12:22:46PM +0200, Joey Schulze wrote:
> Justin Emmanuel wrote:
> > I am brand new to this mailing list, I joined it because I had an idea
> > that I would like to have considered. Moving apt to a relational
> > database, for several reasons.
>
> Before reading on, have you
Neil Williams <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> On Sun, 3 Jun 2007 13:47:20 +0200
> Christoph Haas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>> > What about embedded systems that can barely run sqlite?
>>
>> Is sqlite really *that* heavyweight?
>
> No, that's why it is used in some embedded systems. Even so, it h
On Sunday 03 June 2007 21:30:26 Josselin Mouette wrote:
> Even if SQLite is more robust than Berkeley DB, I don't think you could
> recover anything from a corrupt database. Plain text will always turn
> out better in terms of disaster recovery. If performance is an issue, a
> text file can - just
Hallo,
On 6/3/07, Eduard Bloch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> - in case of an upgrade RDBMSs often dump there databases and import
>them. What will happen when the upgrade fails during this? No
>package database would be really bad
What is the problem with having an internal embedded
#include
* Joey Schulze [Sun, Jun 03 2007, 12:22:46PM]:
> Justin Emmanuel wrote:
> > I am brand new to this mailing list, I joined it because I had an idea
> > that I would like to have considered. Moving apt to a relational
> > database, for several reasons.
>
> Before reading on, have you consi
Le dimanche 03 juin 2007 à 21:17 +0200, sean finney a écrit :
> and if you read the dpkg devel thread that spawned this (don't think it was
> referenced yet in this thread, but it has been referenced the last time or
> two dpkg has been brought up on -devel), you'll see that i'm not particularly
On Sunday 03 June 2007 14:35:07 Neil Williams wrote:
> > http://people.debian.org/~seanius/dpkg-sqlite/
>
> Umm, that uses python to create the database - if there are problems
> putting sqlite into a rootfs, there is NO place for python!! Emdebian
> is removing perl from essential, let alone pyth
On 11039 March 1977, Josselin Mouette wrote:
>> So what do you think? Is this the correct mailing list to send this
>> idea
>> to?
> I'm so happy that people who send such posts to this mailing list are
> not the ones developing our core software.
How about not posting if you dont have anything u
Is this the correct mailing list to send this idea to?
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On Sun, Jun 03, 2007, Josselin Mouette wrote:
> Le dimanche 03 juin 2007 à 10:55 +0100, Justin Emmanuel a écrit :
> > So what do you think? Is this the correct mailing list to send this
> > idea to?
>
> I'm so happy that people who send such posts to this mailing list are
> not the ones developing
On Sun, 3 Jun 2007 13:35:07 +0100
Neil Williams <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I disagree. Emdebian uses SQLite to store package data
on the emdebian.org server (running Etch), not on the devices,
> and just 1,000
> packages takes 1.5Mb. The entire /var/lib/dpkg/available file on this
> full Debi
On Sun, 3 Jun 2007 13:47:20 +0200
Christoph Haas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > What about embedded systems that can barely run sqlite?
>
> Is sqlite really *that* heavyweight?
No, that's why it is used in some embedded systems. Even so, it has no
place in the rootfs for an embedded system, IMHO
On Sun, Jun 03, 2007 at 11:31:18AM +0100, Neil Williams wrote:
> On Sun, 03 Jun 2007 10:55:01 +0100
> Justin Emmanuel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > I am brand new to this mailing list, I joined it because I had an idea
> > that I would like to have considered. Moving apt to a relational
> > databa
also sprach Josselin Mouette <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2007.06.03.1314 +0200]:
> > So what do you think? Is this the correct mailing list to send
> > this idea to?
>
> I'm so happy that people who send such posts to this mailing list
> are not the ones developing our core software.
Dude, there is no n
Le dimanche 03 juin 2007 à 10:55 +0100, Justin Emmanuel a écrit :
> So what do you think? Is this the correct mailing list to send this
> idea
> to?
I'm so happy that people who send such posts to this mailing list are
not the ones developing our core software.
--
.''`.
: :' : We are debia
On Sun, Jun 03, 2007 at 12:24:04PM +0200, martin f krafft <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
> also sprach Justin Emmanuel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2007.06.03.1155 +0200]:
> > I am brand new to this mailing list, I joined it because I had an
> > idea that I would like to have considered. Moving apt to
> > a r
On Sun, 03 Jun 2007 10:55:01 +0100
Justin Emmanuel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I am brand new to this mailing list, I joined it because I had an idea
> that I would like to have considered. Moving apt to a relational
> database, for several reasons.
What about embedded systems that can barely ru
Justin Emmanuel wrote:
> I am brand new to this mailing list, I joined it because I had an idea
> that I would like to have considered. Moving apt to a relational
> database, for several reasons.
Before reading on, have you considered the following:
- using an RDB requires a running RDBMS
- run
also sprach Justin Emmanuel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2007.06.03.1155 +0200]:
> I am brand new to this mailing list, I joined it because I had an
> idea that I would like to have considered. Moving apt to
> a relational database, for several reasons.
Having something as essential as the dpkg database d
I am brand new to this mailing list, I joined it because I had an idea
that I would like to have considered. Moving apt to a relational
database, for several reasons.
Based on a relational database it will run faster, also there should be
some more data stored about the programs to facilitate syst
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