Re: Unmet Deps revisted

1999-01-22 Thread Steve McIntyre
On Fri, 22 Jan 1999, Santiago Vila wrote: >On Fri, 22 Jan 1999, Steve McIntyre wrote: > >> On Fri, 22 Jan 1999, Santiago Vila wrote: >> >> >I hope the pgp-i and pgp-us example will help you to see that surely >most >> >of these conflicts are gratuituous). >> >> I guess so. Hmmm. I'm still not con

Re: Unmet Deps revisted

1999-01-22 Thread Santiago Vila
On Fri, 22 Jan 1999, Steve McIntyre wrote: > On Fri, 22 Jan 1999, Santiago Vila wrote: > > >I hope the pgp-i and pgp-us example will help you to see that surely most > >of these conflicts are gratuituous). > > I guess so. Hmmm. I'm still not convinced it's a major thing to be worried > about. [.

Re: Unmet Deps revisted

1999-01-22 Thread Jules Bean
On Fri, 22 Jan 1999, Steve McIntyre wrote: > On Fri, 22 Jan 1999, Santiago Vila wrote: > > >Please note that a suboptimal packaging does not legitimate the conflict. > >For example, my unzip and unzip-crypt packages do conflict at each other, > >and they are optional, so I should probably make th

Re: Unmet Deps revisted

1999-01-22 Thread Steve McIntyre
On Fri, 22 Jan 1999, Santiago Vila wrote: >Please note that a suboptimal packaging does not legitimate the conflict. >For example, my unzip and unzip-crypt packages do conflict at each other, >and they are optional, so I should probably make them compatible, like >pgp-i and pgp-us, for example. [

Re: Unmet Deps revisted

1999-01-22 Thread Santiago Vila
On Fri, 22 Jan 1999, Steve McIntyre wrote: > On Fri, 22 Jan 1999, Santiago Vila wrote: > > >On Fri, 22 Jan 1999, Steve McIntyre wrote: > > > >> >If there are optional packages that conflict with each other, we should > >> >choose one to stay in optional and move the others to extra. (Or change/ >

Re: Unmet Deps revisted

1999-01-22 Thread Steve McIntyre
On Fri, 22 Jan 1999, Santiago Vila wrote: >On Fri, 22 Jan 1999, Steve McIntyre wrote: > >> >If there are optional packages that conflict with each other, we should >> >choose one to stay in optional and move the others to extra. (Or change/ >> >clarify the definition on the policy manual). >> >> T

Re: Unmet Deps revisted

1999-01-22 Thread Santiago Vila
On Fri, 22 Jan 1999, Steve McIntyre wrote: > >If there are optional packages that conflict with each other, we should > >choose one to stay in optional and move the others to extra. (Or change/ > >clarify the definition on the policy manual). > > The manual should be fixed IMHO - there are lots o

Re: Unmet Deps revisted

1999-01-22 Thread Steve McIntyre
Enrique Zanardi writes: >On Wed, Jan 20, 1999 at 10:22:39AM +, Steve McIntyre wrote: >> Am I missing something here? Where does it say that users should be able >> to install _all_ optional packages? > >The policy manual suggests that: > >"2.2 Priorities >[...] > optional > (In a sen

Re: Unmet Deps revisted

1999-01-20 Thread Edward Betts
On Wed, 20 Jan, 1999, Steve McIntyre wrote: > >When selecting all packages of a certain priority there should be no > >conflicts. If there are two MTA's, then one is optional, the other is > >extra. I'm sure this is written down in one of our many policy, develop. > >ref, packaging manuals. > >

Re: Unmet Deps revisted

1999-01-20 Thread Santiago Vila
On Wed, 20 Jan 1999, Wichert Akkerman wrote: > Previously Martin Schulze wrote: > > When selecting all packages of a certain priority there should be no > > conflicts. > > I think that if I try to install every package with priority extra > some things will start complaining very loudly. "extra"

Re: Unmet Deps revisted

1999-01-20 Thread Steve McIntyre
On Wed, 20 Jan 1999, Martin Schulze wrote: >> Am I missing something here? Where does it say that users should be able >> to install _all_ optional packages? > >When selecting all packages of a certain priority there should be no >conflicts. If there are two MTA's, then one is optional, the other

Re: Unmet Deps revisted

1999-01-20 Thread Martin Schulze
Wichert Akkerman wrote: > Previously Martin Schulze wrote: > > When selecting all packages of a certain priority there should be no > > conflicts. > > I think that if I try to install every package with priority extra > some things will start complaining very loudly.. Isn't that what Santiago poi

Re: Unmet Deps revisted

1999-01-20 Thread Wichert Akkerman
Previously Martin Schulze wrote: > When selecting all packages of a certain priority there should be no > conflicts. I think that if I try to install every package with priority extra some things will start complaining very loudly.. Wichert. -- ==

Re: Unmet Deps revisted

1999-01-20 Thread Enrique Zanardi
On Wed, Jan 20, 1999 at 10:22:39AM +, Steve McIntyre wrote: > > Santiago Vila writes: > >>> smail is still optional, but conflicts with exim, so it should be extra. > >>> hello-debhelper conflicts with hello, and has absolutely no extra > >>> functionality over ordinary hello, so the binary sh

Re: Unmet Deps revisted

1999-01-20 Thread Martin Schulze
Steve McIntyre wrote: > > Santiago Vila writes: > >>> smail is still optional, but conflicts with exim, so it should be extra. > >>> hello-debhelper conflicts with hello, and has absolutely no extra > >>> functionality over ordinary hello, so the binary should be removed, in > >>> either case it s

Re: Unmet Deps revisted

1999-01-20 Thread Steve McIntyre
Santiago Vila writes: >>> smail is still optional, but conflicts with exim, so it should be extra. >>> hello-debhelper conflicts with hello, and has absolutely no extra >>> functionality over ordinary hello, so the binary should be removed, in >>> either case it should be extra. >>> gmc conflicts

Re: Unmet Deps revisted

1999-01-18 Thread Martin Schulze
Santiago Vila wrote: > > package foo needs to be priority extra since foo and bar conflict and are > > both optional. > > Fine, but why should this be more quickly fixed than the same text sent to > [EMAIL PROTECTED] against ftp.debian.org? Both should be fine, the bug report should be even bett

Re: Unmet Deps revisted

1999-01-18 Thread Santiago Vila
On Mon, 18 Jan 1999, Martin Schulze wrote: > > What do you mean with send "proper" mails...? Do you mean that the text of > > Bug #29874 is improper in some way? I hope not. > > With "proper" I thought about mails to overrides-change like > > package foo needs to be priority extra since foo and

Re: Unmet Deps revisted

1999-01-18 Thread Martin Schulze
Santiago Vila wrote: > > > > > > > There are in total *ten* dselect Dependency/conflict resolution > > > > > > > screens. > > > > > > > (using the PageForward key). Am I *really* required to report > > > > > > > them *all*, > > > > > > > or may I ask our kind ftp.debian.org maintainers to do a *

Re: Unmet Deps revisted

1999-01-18 Thread Santiago Vila
On Mon, 18 Jan 1999, Martin Schulze wrote: > Santiago Vila wrote: > > > > > > There are in total *ten* dselect Dependency/conflict resolution > > > > > > screens. > > > > > > (using the PageForward key). Am I *really* required to report them > > > > > > *all*, > > > > > > or may I ask our kind

Re: Unmet Deps revisted

1999-01-18 Thread Martin Schulze
Santiago Vila wrote: > > > > > There are in total *ten* dselect Dependency/conflict resolution > > > > > screens. > > > > > (using the PageForward key). Am I *really* required to report them > > > > > *all*, > > > > > or may I ask our kind ftp.debian.org maintainers to do a *serious* > > > > > d

Re: Unmet Deps revisted

1999-01-18 Thread Santiago Vila
On Mon, 18 Jan 1999, Martin Schulze wrote: > Santiago Vila wrote: > > > > There are in total *ten* dselect Dependency/conflict resolution > > > > screens. > > > > (using the PageForward key). Am I *really* required to report them > > > > *all*, > > > > or may I ask our kind ftp.debian.org maint

Re: Unmet Deps revisted

1999-01-18 Thread Martin Schulze
Santiago Vila wrote: > > > There are in total *ten* dselect Dependency/conflict resolution screens. > > > (using the PageForward key). Am I *really* required to report them *all*, > > > or may I ask our kind ftp.debian.org maintainers to do a *serious* > > > dependency/conflict check *before* the

Re: Unmet Deps revisted

1999-01-18 Thread Santiago Vila
On Sun, 17 Jan 1999, Martin Schulze wrote: > Santiago Vila wrote: > > [...] > > There are in total *ten* dselect Dependency/conflict resolution screens. > > (using the PageForward key). Am I *really* required to report them *all*, > > or may I ask our kind ftp.debian.org maintainers to do a *seri