Re: The "node" command in Debian

2011-02-09 Thread Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
On Wed, 09 Feb 2011, John Goerzen wrote: > On 02/08/2011 05:04 PM, Hamish Moffatt wrote: > >Similar AX.25 tools "call" and "listen" were renamed in 2007 to ax* > >(package ax25-apps), because those names were too generic (according to > >the changelog). > > ... resulting in considerable confusion

Re: The "node" command in Debian

2011-02-09 Thread John Goerzen
On 02/08/2011 05:04 PM, Hamish Moffatt wrote: Similar AX.25 tools "call" and "listen" were renamed in 2007 to ax* (package ax25-apps), because those names were too generic (according to the changelog). ... resulting in considerable confusion from many people, given that much documentation out

Re: The "node" command in Debian

2011-02-08 Thread Hamish Moffatt
On Mon, Feb 07, 2011 at 10:54:24AM -0200, Henrique de Moraes Holschuh wrote: > On Mon, 07 Feb 2011, Jonathan Nieder wrote: > > The LinuxNode project > > - > > The other is a frontend to libax25, an AX.25 implementation for Linux. > > Hardware implementations of AX.25 are apparen

Re: The "node" command in Debian

2011-02-08 Thread Ian Jackson
Simon McVittie writes ("Re: The "node" command in Debian"): > On Mon, 07 Feb 2011 at 04:46:57 -0600, Jonathan Nieder wrote: > > Problem: scripts may use the 'node' name to refer to either of these > > programs. Which should get the name? You decide

Re: The "node" command in Debian

2011-02-08 Thread Simon McVittie
On Mon, 07 Feb 2011 at 04:46:57 -0600, Jonathan Nieder wrote: > Problem: scripts may use the 'node' name to refer to either of these > programs. Which should get the name? You decide, based not on > popularity or priority but --- well, based on whatever makes sense. Perhaps rename both, also pro

Re: The "node" command in Debian

2011-02-08 Thread Joerg Jaspert
On 12384 March 1977, Jérémy Lal wrote: > 5. nodejs package provides /usr/bin/nodejs, following policy. >nodejs-notrenamed package links /usr/bin/node to nodejs, and conflicts >with node package. And end up with two exactly identical binary packages (except for the filename) in the archive?

Re: The "node" command in Debian

2011-02-07 Thread Bernhard R. Link
* Jérémy Lal [110207 18:21]: > > 2. they can be forced (by the TC) to drop their claim of "node" in the > >common namespace. This is not likely to happen. If both camps can rightly argue that some other command called "node" might make things in their camp call the wrong thing, then this is

Re: The "node" command in Debian

2011-02-07 Thread Jérémy Lal
On 07/02/2011 13:54, Henrique de Moraes Holschuh wrote: > 1. they can declare a conflict with each other, so that the packaging >system will never let both get installed in the same system. > >Unless both communities have a large overlap, this one makes both >happy, until a third packa

Re: The "node" command in Debian

2011-02-07 Thread Ian Jackson
brian m. carlson writes ("Re: The "node" command in Debian"): > The definition of "filename" here is unclear. AX.25's node is in > /usr/sbin (IIRC) and nodejs's is in /usr/bin. This, of course, poses > practical problems for people that have bo

Re: The "node" command in Debian

2011-02-07 Thread brian m. carlson
On Mon, Feb 07, 2011 at 03:43:48PM +, Ian Jackson wrote: > Henrique de Moraes Holschuh writes ("Re: The "node" command in Debian"): > > 1. they can declare a conflict with each other, so that the packaging > >system will never let both get installed i

Re: The "node" command in Debian

2011-02-07 Thread Jérémy Lal
On 07/02/2011 16:43, Adrian von Bidder wrote: > On Monday 07 February 2011 13.54:24 Henrique de Moraes Holschuh wrote: >> 1. they can declare a conflict with each other, so that the packaging >>system will never let both get installed in the same system. > > JavaScript and AX.25 sounds like it

Re: The "node" command in Debian

2011-02-07 Thread Ian Jackson
Henrique de Moraes Holschuh writes ("Re: The "node" command in Debian"): > 1. they can declare a conflict with each other, so that the packaging >system will never let both get installed in the same system. No, this is explicitly forbidden by policy and quite

Re: The "node" command in Debian

2011-02-07 Thread Adrian von Bidder
On Monday 07 February 2011 13.54:24 Henrique de Moraes Holschuh wrote: > 1. they can declare a conflict with each other, so that the packaging >system will never let both get installed in the same system. JavaScript and AX.25 sounds like it might be quite a distance in terms of people involve

Re: The "node" command in Debian

2011-02-07 Thread Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
On Mon, 07 Feb 2011, Jonathan Nieder wrote: > As you may know[0], there are currently two packages in Debian > experimental providing a "node" binary. > > [0] http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel/2010/08/msg00568.html ... > One is from the node.js project. It was renamed from "server" to > "nod

Re: The "node" command in Debian

2011-02-07 Thread Ian Jackson
Jonathan Nieder writes ("The "node" command in Debian"): > (please follow-up to debian-devel only) > If no consensus emerges, policy §10.1 in its Solomon-like wisdom says > _both_ commands must be renamed. I hope we can do better. I will be > happy to file re

The "node" command in Debian

2011-02-07 Thread Jonathan Nieder
(please follow-up to debian-devel only) Hi Debianites, As you may know[0], there are currently two packages in Debian experimental providing a "node" binary. [0] http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel/2010/08/msg00568.html The node.js project --- One is from the node.js project. I