On Mon, Nov 17, 2003 at 08:07:35PM +, Jonathan Dowland wrote:
> Torvalds' position is that code that cannot be expressed using
> 8-spaces-per-indent and wrap at 79 characters needs to be rewritten.
Who is Thorvalds?
SCNR
Balu
/* vim: set expandtab tabstop=4 shiftwidth=4 softtabstop=4
I demand that Steve Lamb may or may not have written...
[snip]
> if foo
> bar
> else
> baz
fi
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Julian Mehnle wrote:
I call that readable, but I guess somebody won't. ;-)
Actually it is quite readable and sensible in that it breaks down the
regex into parts that a human can read. Oh, and the equivolant would be legal
in Python. Which was kind of my point on asking H.S. the two questio
On Mon, Nov 17, 2003 at 06:02:40PM -0800, Tom wrote:
> If whitespace mistakes are always caught at compile-time, then I
> probably wouldn't care about them either. So I'm not bashing python;
> having never used it: I'm bashing languages where syntatic mistakes
> are not caught at compile-time. I
On Tue, Nov 18, 2003 at 11:55:01AM +0100, Julian Mehnle wrote:
| Steve Lamb wrote:
| > 2: Can you provide an example of such free-style coding that you speak
| > so highly of?
|
| # Split header into separate header lines, dropping any unneeded or
| # spurious header lines:
| @header_lines = grep(
Steve Lamb wrote:
> 2: Can you provide an example of such free-style coding that you speak
> so highly of?
# Split header into separate header lines, dropping any unneeded or
# spurious header lines:
@header_lines = grep(
(
/^(?:
# Wanted headers:
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On Mon, Nov 17, 2003 at 11:08:44PM -0600, Gunnar Wolf wrote:
> H. S. Teoh dijo [Mon, Nov 17, 2003 at 08:47:27PM -0500]:
> > > >*chalks up one more reason to avoid Python like the plague...*
> > >
> > > Uh, care to rewrite that since Python is now on 2.3 and 1.5.2 is
> > > several years ol
H. S. Teoh dijo [Mon, Nov 17, 2003 at 08:47:27PM -0500]:
> > >*chalks up one more reason to avoid Python like the plague...*
> >
> > Uh, care to rewrite that since Python is now on 2.3 and 1.5.2 is
> > several years old?
> [snip]
>
> That doesn't negate the fact that I find significant w
Tom wrote:
Do whitespace mistakes cause compile time errors? The frustrating thing
about fortran was variable names that started with C could be
interpreted as comments not indented correctly, which would just cause
that line to be skipped. Integer literals not indented correctly could
be int
On Mon, Nov 17, 2003 at 05:53:54PM -0800, Steve Lamb wrote:
> Tom wrote:
> >Significant whitespace? Shudder, that brings back crusty old memories
> >of Fortran. I have great fondness for fortran because of the wonderful
> >mathematical algorithms in LinPack, but I have no fondness for
> >signi
H. S. Teoh wrote:
That doesn't negate the fact that I find significant whitespace rather
atrocious. I really rather use a language where I'm free to format the
code the way I want it, to maximally convey its meaning, rather than to be
forced to write it a certain way because some genius decided tha
Tom wrote:
Significant whitespace? Shudder, that brings back crusty old memories
of Fortran. I have great fondness for fortran because of the wonderful
mathematical algorithms in LinPack, but I have no fondness for
significant whitespace.
And? Does Fortran's rules map to Pythons? I often
On Mon, Nov 17, 2003 at 05:14:04PM -0800, Steve Lamb wrote:
> H. S. Teoh wrote:
> >On Mon, Nov 17, 2003 at 02:29:52PM -0600, Chad Walstrom wrote:
[snip]
> >>Python did away with that requirement for scope in 2.x. If you want to
> >>use blank lines for code logic separation in python < 2.0, you mus
On Mon, Nov 17, 2003 at 05:21:23PM -0800, Steve Lamb wrote:
> H. S. Teoh wrote:
> >On Mon, Nov 17, 2003 at 11:47:34AM -0600, Chad Walstrom wrote:
> >[snip]
>
> >>I have a love-hate relationship with the significant whitespace.
>
> >I have a hate-hate relationship with it. I much prefer free-style
H. S. Teoh wrote:
On Mon, Nov 17, 2003 at 11:47:34AM -0600, Chad Walstrom wrote:
[snip]
I have a love-hate relationship with the significant whitespace.
I have a hate-hate relationship with it. I much prefer free-style syntax
where the programmer is allowed to use his best judgment on how to inde
H. S. Teoh wrote:
On Mon, Nov 17, 2003 at 02:29:52PM -0600, Chad Walstrom wrote:
On Mon, Nov 17, 2003 at 02:19:02PM -0500, H. S. Teoh wrote:
Also, as an off-topic note, blank lines that contain tabs or spaces
are Pure Evil(tm), especially in code. One of these days I should
write a sed script to
On Mon, Nov 17, 2003 at 02:29:52PM -0600, Chad Walstrom wrote:
> On Mon, Nov 17, 2003 at 02:19:02PM -0500, H. S. Teoh wrote:
> > Also, as an off-topic note, blank lines that contain tabs or spaces
> > are Pure Evil(tm), especially in code. One of these days I should
> > write a sed script to elimin
On Mon, Nov 17, 2003 at 08:07:35PM +, Jonathan Dowland wrote:
> On Mon, Nov 17, 2003 at 02:19:02PM -0500, H. S. Teoh wrote:
>
> > For personal pet projects, I use 2 spaces per nesting level. Some people
> > think that's Pure Evil(tm),
>
> Most noteably perhaps, Linus Torvalds, although...
>
On Mon, Nov 17, 2003 at 02:19:02PM -0500, H. S. Teoh wrote:
> Also, as an off-topic note, blank lines that contain tabs or spaces
> are Pure Evil(tm), especially in code. One of these days I should
> write a sed script to eliminate all incarnations of this Pure Evil(tm)
> from /usr/src.
Python did
On Mon, Nov 17, 2003 at 02:19:02PM -0500, H. S. Teoh wrote:
> For personal pet projects, I use 2 spaces per nesting level. Some people
> think that's Pure Evil(tm),
Most noteably perhaps, Linus Torvalds, although...
>although I fully agree with you about wasting
> screen real estate in 80 colu
On Mon, Nov 17, 2003 at 11:47:34AM -0600, Chad Walstrom wrote:
[snip]
> I have a love-hate relationship with the significant whitespace.
I have a hate-hate relationship with it. I much prefer free-style syntax
where the programmer is allowed to use his best judgment on how to indent
the code. Of c
On Mon, Nov 17, 2003 at 11:13:59PM +0800, Cameron Patrick wrote:
> I believe that tabs aren't a problem with Python so long as they
> really do indent to a multiple of 8 spaces. Editors which interpret
> tabs differently are broken^W^W can cause problems when editing Python
> code with tabs and sp
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