Re: Status of systemtap in Debian

2010-02-19 Thread Simon Paillard
On Thu, Feb 18, 2010 at 03:00:13PM +0100, Lucas Nussbaum wrote: > On 18/02/10 at 14:31 +0100, Bastian Blank wrote: > > > I's only a few hundreds of megabytes per kernel image. > > > > Its around half a GiB per image. > > Isn't that a correct instance of "a few hundreds of megabytes"? :) > > > >

Re: Status of systemtap in Debian

2010-02-18 Thread Moritz Muehlenhoff
On 2010-02-18, Ben Hutchings wrote: > > --=-krd2Pvts3nDRsMxpCHn/ > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" > Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable > > On Thu, 2010-02-18 at 15:00 +0100, Lucas Nussbaum wrote: >> On 18/02/10 at 14:31 +0100, Bastian Blank wrote: >> > > I's only a few hundreds

Re: Status of systemtap in Debian

2010-02-18 Thread Russ Allbery
Troy Heber writes: > On 02/16/10 13:54, dann frazier wrote: >> The kernel team discussed this at our face to face meeting (due to >> some prompting from the 'crash' maintainer). > I didn't see this explicitly mentioned in the rest of the discussion, > but debug kernel images are useful for more

Re: Status of systemtap in Debian

2010-02-18 Thread Philipp Kern
On 2010-02-18, Ben Hutchings wrote: > Currently I can upload a ~230 MB i386 build in 2 hours or so. Add debug > info to this for all 6 images and I'm looking at more than a day, by > which point I believe the incoming daemon would have given up waiting > for a complete upload. Even if I switched

Re: Status of systemtap in Debian

2010-02-18 Thread Ben Hutchings
On Thu, 2010-02-18 at 15:00 +0100, Lucas Nussbaum wrote: > On 18/02/10 at 14:31 +0100, Bastian Blank wrote: > > > I's only a few hundreds of megabytes per kernel image. > > > > Its around half a GiB per image. > > Isn't that a correct instance of "a few hundreds of megabytes"? :) [...] I would o

Re: Status of systemtap in Debian

2010-02-18 Thread Troy Heber
On 02/16/10 13:54, dann frazier wrote: > > The kernel team discussed this at our face to face meeting (due to > some prompting from the 'crash' maintainer). I didn't see this explicitly mentioned in the rest of the discussion, but debug kernel images are useful for more than just systemtap. It w

Re: Status of systemtap in Debian

2010-02-18 Thread Lucas Nussbaum
On 18/02/10 at 14:31 +0100, Bastian Blank wrote: > > I's only a few hundreds of megabytes per kernel image. > > Its around half a GiB per image. Isn't that a correct instance of "a few hundreds of megabytes"? :) > >Some games or > > debug p

Re: Status of systemtap in Debian

2010-02-18 Thread Bastian Blank
On Thu, Feb 18, 2010 at 02:01:19PM +0100, Lucas Nussbaum wrote: > On 18/02/10 at 00:18 +0100, Frank Lin PIAT wrote: > > On Tue, 2010-02-16 at 22:47 +0100, Lucas Nussbaum wrote: > > > Why couldn't it be done using a normal deb? It is just a matter of taste. > I's only a few hundreds of megabytes p

Re: Status of systemtap in Debian

2010-02-18 Thread Lucas Nussbaum
On 18/02/10 at 00:18 +0100, Frank Lin PIAT wrote: > On Tue, 2010-02-16 at 22:47 +0100, Lucas Nussbaum wrote: > > On 16/02/10 at 22:27 +0100, Bastian Blank wrote: > > > On Tue, Feb 16, 2010 at 09:13:06PM +0100, Lucas Nussbaum wrote: > > > > - disk space on buildds: at least 2 GiB are required to bui

Re: Status of systemtap in Debian

2010-02-17 Thread Frank Lin PIAT
On Tue, 2010-02-16 at 22:47 +0100, Lucas Nussbaum wrote: > On 16/02/10 at 22:27 +0100, Bastian Blank wrote: > > On Tue, Feb 16, 2010 at 09:13:06PM +0100, Lucas Nussbaum wrote: > > > - disk space on buildds: at least 2 GiB are required to build a kernel > > > with debuginfo. (that doesn't sound to

Re: Status of systemtap in Debian

2010-02-17 Thread Jon Dowland
On Wed, Feb 17, 2010 at 09:58:47AM +0100, Bastian Blank wrote: > This is a misinterpretation of my data. The effective > space requirement is raised by factor 10 with debugging > information. And is that a problem for the buildds of the relevant architectures? If so, what is the effective upper li

Re: Status of systemtap in Debian

2010-02-17 Thread Bastian Blank
On Tue, Feb 16, 2010 at 10:17:27PM +0100, Kurt Roeckx wrote: > On Tue, Feb 16, 2010 at 09:13:06PM +0100, Lucas Nussbaum wrote: > > > > - disk space on buildds: at least 2 GiB are required to build a kernel > > with debuginfo. (that doesn't sound too hard to satisfy) > There currently are package

Re: Status of systemtap in Debian

2010-02-17 Thread Lucas Nussbaum
On 16/02/10 at 22:17 +0100, Kurt Roeckx wrote: > On Tue, Feb 16, 2010 at 09:13:06PM +0100, Lucas Nussbaum wrote: > > > > - disk space on buildds: at least 2 GiB are required to build a kernel > > with debuginfo. (that doesn't sound too hard to satisfy) > > There currently are packages that requ

Re: Status of systemtap in Debian

2010-02-16 Thread Lucas Nussbaum
On 16/02/10 at 22:27 +0100, Bastian Blank wrote: > On Tue, Feb 16, 2010 at 09:13:06PM +0100, Lucas Nussbaum wrote: > > - disk space on buildds: at least 2 GiB are required to build a kernel > > with debuginfo. (that doesn't sound too hard to satisfy) > > A typical build includes between 2 and 10

Re: Status of systemtap in Debian

2010-02-16 Thread Bastian Blank
On Tue, Feb 16, 2010 at 09:13:06PM +0100, Lucas Nussbaum wrote: > - disk space on buildds: at least 2 GiB are required to build a kernel > with debuginfo. (that doesn't sound too hard to satisfy) A typical build includes between 2 and 10 of them. > - mirror space: each debug .deb would use ~ 45

Re: Status of systemtap in Debian

2010-02-16 Thread Kurt Roeckx
On Tue, Feb 16, 2010 at 09:13:06PM +0100, Lucas Nussbaum wrote: > > - disk space on buildds: at least 2 GiB are required to build a kernel > with debuginfo. (that doesn't sound too hard to satisfy) There currently are packages that require more diskspace than that, for instance the linux-2.6 pa

Re: Status of systemtap in Debian

2010-02-16 Thread dann frazier
On Tue, Feb 16, 2010 at 09:13:06PM +0100, Lucas Nussbaum wrote: > [ M-F-T set to debian-devel@ ] > > Hi, > > Systemtap[1] is a tool allowing to dynamically insert probes in the > Linux kernel, similarly to what is possible with DTrace on Solaris. > [1] http://sourceware.org/systemtap/ > > The st

Re: Status of systemtap in Debian

2010-02-16 Thread Lucas Nussbaum
On 16/02/10 at 20:35 +, Philipp Kern wrote: > On 2010-02-16, Lucas Nussbaum wrote: > > Systemtap[1] is a tool allowing to dynamically insert probes in the > > Linux kernel, similarly to what is possible with DTrace on Solaris. > > [1] http://sourceware.org/systemtap/ > > > > The state of syste

Re: Status of systemtap in Debian

2010-02-16 Thread Eugeniy Meshcheryakov
Hello, 16 лютого 2010 о 20:35 + Philipp Kern написав(-ла): > Is that supported on all architectures or is it architecture-specific? Systemtap now supports only i386/amd64/ia64/armel/powerpc/s390. > Would it be sufficient to provide that infrastructure on the fast > arches? I'm concerned how

Re: Status of systemtap in Debian

2010-02-16 Thread Philipp Kern
On 2010-02-16, Lucas Nussbaum wrote: > Systemtap[1] is a tool allowing to dynamically insert probes in the > Linux kernel, similarly to what is possible with DTrace on Solaris. > [1] http://sourceware.org/systemtap/ > > The state of systemtap in Debian is currently worrying. First, the > package h

Status of systemtap in Debian

2010-02-16 Thread Lucas Nussbaum
[ M-F-T set to debian-devel@ ] Hi, Systemtap[1] is a tool allowing to dynamically insert probes in the Linux kernel, similarly to what is possible with DTrace on Solaris. [1] http://sourceware.org/systemtap/ The state of systemtap in Debian is currently worrying. First, the package has been orph