Re: Status of deb(5) format support in Debian

Hi! On Sat, 2013-08-03 at 23:25:30 +0100, Colin Watson wrote: > On Fri, Aug 02, 2013 at 04:09:20AM +0200, Guillem Jover wrote: > > The other side of the support I've been pondering about is extending > > dpkg-deb so that .deb files can be modified in conformant ways, stuff > > like inserting _-sty

Re: Status of deb(5) format support in Debian

On Fri, Aug 02, 2013 at 04:09:20AM +0200, Guillem Jover wrote: > The other side of the support I've been pondering about is extending > dpkg-deb so that .deb files can be modified in conformant ways, stuff > like inserting _-style members, or appending extra ones at the end, > which would cover the

Re: Status of deb(5) format support in Debian

On 2013-07-31 18:24, Guillem Jover wrote: Due to bug 718295, and in preparation to add non-gzip compression support for control.tar, I've tried to get an accurate view of the current deb(5) format support in software present in Debian. The resulting table looks pretty bad:

Re: Status of deb(5) format support in Debian

Hi! On Wed, 2013-07-31 at 22:16:02 +0200, David Kalnischkies wrote: > On Wed, Jul 31, 2013 at 6:56 PM, Stefano Zacchiroli wrote: > > Can you expand on the planned remedy and in how "soon" it might arrive? > > That I would be interested in as well. > I know that everyone dreams about a stable AP

Re: Status of deb(5) format support in Debian

On Wed, Jul 31, 2013 at 06:24:32PM +0200, Guillem Jover wrote: > Due to bug 718295, and in preparation to add non-gzip compression > support for control.tar, I've tried to get an accurate view of the > current deb(5) format support in software present in Debian. The > resulting table looks pretty b

Re: Status of deb(5) format support in Debian

Hi! On Thu, 2013-08-01 at 09:38:35 +0100, Neil Williams wrote: > On Wed, 31 Jul 2013 18:24:32 +0200 > Guillem Jover wrote: > > Due to bug 718295, and in preparation to add non-gzip compression > > support for control.tar, I've tried to get an accurate view of the > > current deb(5) format support

Re: Status of deb(5) format support in Debian

Hi! On Thu, 2013-08-01 at 16:40:51 +0200, Adam Borowski wrote: > On Wed, Jul 31, 2013 at 06:24:32PM +0200, Guillem Jover wrote: > > [...] in preparation to add non-gzip compression support for control.tar > > May I ask why would you want that? See

Re: Status of deb(5) format support in Debian

On Thu, Aug 01, 2013 at 05:21:01PM +0100, Dmitrijs Ledkovs wrote: > On 1 August 2013 16:21, Adam Borowski wrote: > > On Thu, Aug 01, 2013 at 03:52:38PM +0100, Dmitrijs Ledkovs wrote: > >> On 1 August 2013 15:40, Adam Borowski wrote: > >> > On Wed, Jul 31, 2013 at 06:24:32PM +0200, Guillem Jover w

Re: Status of deb(5) format support in Debian

On 1 August 2013 16:21, Adam Borowski wrote: > On Thu, Aug 01, 2013 at 03:52:38PM +0100, Dmitrijs Ledkovs wrote: >> On 1 August 2013 15:40, Adam Borowski wrote: >> > On Wed, Jul 31, 2013 at 06:24:32PM +0200, Guillem Jover wrote: >> >> [...] in preparation to add non-gzip compression support for c

Re: Status of deb(5) format support in Debian

On Thu, Aug 01, 2013 at 03:52:38PM +0100, Dmitrijs Ledkovs wrote: > On 1 August 2013 15:40, Adam Borowski wrote: > > On Wed, Jul 31, 2013 at 06:24:32PM +0200, Guillem Jover wrote: > >> [...] in preparation to add non-gzip compression support for control.tar > > > > May I ask why would you want tha

Re: Status of deb(5) format support in Debian

On 1 August 2013 15:40, Adam Borowski wrote: > On Wed, Jul 31, 2013 at 06:24:32PM +0200, Guillem Jover wrote: >> [...] in preparation to add non-gzip compression support for control.tar > > May I ask why would you want that? > > There's a lot of extra complexity, incompatibility with existing tool

Re: Status of deb(5) format support in Debian

On Wed, Jul 31, 2013 at 06:24:32PM +0200, Guillem Jover wrote: > [...] in preparation to add non-gzip compression support for control.tar May I ask why would you want that? There's a lot of extra complexity, incompatibility with existing tools, added moving parts... and I'm not aware of any gain.

Re: Status of deb(5) format support in Debian

On Thu, Aug 01, 2013 at 02:18:13PM +0200, Helmut Grohne wrote: > On Wed, Jul 31, 2013 at 06:56:40PM +0200, Stefano Zacchiroli wrote: > > I'm myself guilty of having implemented, back in 2007, python-debian's > > support to manipulate .deb files: the debian.debfile module. It is yet > > another Pyth

Re: Status of deb(5) format support in Debian

On Wed, Jul 31, 2013 at 06:56:40PM +0200, Stefano Zacchiroli wrote: > I'm myself guilty of having implemented, back in 2007, python-debian's > support to manipulate .deb files: the debian.debfile module. It is yet > another Python implementation of deb(5), because back in the days there > was no li

Re: Status of deb(5) format support in Debian

On Wed, 31 Jul 2013 18:24:32 +0200 Guillem Jover wrote: > Hi! > > Due to bug 718295, and in preparation to add non-gzip compression > support for control.tar, I've tried to get an accurate view of the > current deb(5) format support in software present in Debian. The > resulting table looks pret

Re: Status of deb(5) format support in Debian

On Wed, Jul 31, 2013 at 10:16:02PM +0200, David Kalnischkies wrote: > I know that everyone dreams about a stable API for a library, but I believe > that even an unstable library at this point is way better than the status > quo of having other layers like libapt (which is a proof that even if being

Re: Status of deb(5) format support in Debian

On Wed, Jul 31, 2013 at 6:56 PM, Stefano Zacchiroli wrote: > On Wed, Jul 31, 2013 at 06:24:32PM +0200, Guillem Jover wrote: >> Due to bug 718295, and in preparation to add non-gzip compression >> support for control.tar, I've tried to get an accurate view of the >> current deb(5) format support in

Re: Status of deb(5) format support in Debian

On Wed, Jul 31, 2013 at 06:24:32PM +0200, Guillem Jover wrote: > Due to bug 718295, and in preparation to add non-gzip compression > support for control.tar, I've tried to get an accurate view of the > current deb(5) format support in software present in Debian. The > resulting table looks pretty b

Status of deb(5) format support in Debian

Hi! Due to bug 718295, and in preparation to add non-gzip compression support for control.tar, I've tried to get an accurate view of the current deb(5) format support in software present in Debian. The resulting table looks pretty bad: Please he