Re: Spam on this list

2005-09-07 Thread Florian Weimer
* Henning Makholm: > I find these recurring threads slightly surreal. I think that > lists.d.o does a excellent job of filtering spam; my own (anecdotal, > non-scientific) experience is that I spend more time reading > discussions about how to spamfilter l.d.o better than I spend > ignoring spam o

Re: Spam on this list

2005-09-06 Thread Henning Makholm
Scripsit "Allyn, MarkX A" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > I have been noticing (and a bit irritated) at the spam I am seeing > on this and some other email lists. The latest was a bit offensive > for me in my work environment. I find these recurring threads slightly surreal. I think that lists.d.o does a e

Re: Spam on the BTS (was: Spam on this list)

2005-09-06 Thread Don Armstrong
On Tue, 06 Sep 2005, Joerg Sommer wrote: > Does this mean you drop spam, currently? No, we pack it in neat little mailboxes with the greatest of care, and then proceed to blissfully forget that those messages were ever received unless someone wonders why their message never made it through. Then,

Re: Spam on the BTS (was: Spam on this list)

2005-09-06 Thread Joerg Sommer
Hello Blars, Blars Blarson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: >>Blars Blarson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>> >>> I've been working on the spam filtering for the BTS. We are getting >>> over 100,000 spams/day and about 50/day get through the filte

Re: Spam on this list

2005-09-06 Thread Steve Langasek
On Tue, Sep 06, 2005 at 11:07:34AM +0200, Wouter Verhelst wrote: > On Mon, Sep 05, 2005 at 09:00:36PM +0200, Jesús M. Navarro wrote: > > Hi, Wouter: > > El Lunes, 05 Septiembre 2005 19:52, Wouter Verhelst escribió: > > [...] > > > "spam", as in, unsolicited bulk email, was named after a particular

Re: Spam on this list

2005-09-06 Thread Wouter Verhelst
On Mon, Sep 05, 2005 at 09:00:36PM +0200, Jesús M. Navarro wrote: > Hi, Wouter: > > El Lunes, 05 Septiembre 2005 19:52, Wouter Verhelst escribió: > [...] > > "spam", as in, unsolicited bulk email, was named after a particular > > brand of corned beef. See http://www.spam.com/ > > Not exactly. Sp

Re: Spam on the BTS (was: Spam on this list)

2005-09-05 Thread Blars Blarson
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: >Blars Blarson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: >>>I have also noticed tickets submitted to the bug facility that are >>>spam. Can that facility be configured so that if the format (packa

Re: Spam on the BTS (was: Spam on this list)

2005-09-05 Thread Marco d'Itri
On Sep 05, Joerg Sommer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Drop not, but reject. It would be the best, if you can reject spam in > the SMTP dialog. Actually it's the only possible solution, a 100K msg/day backscatter source would be quickly widely blacklisted. -- ciao, Marco signature.asc Descriptio

Re: Spam on the BTS (was: Spam on this list)

2005-09-05 Thread Joerg Sommer
Hello Blars, Blars Blarson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: >>I have also noticed tickets submitted to the bug facility that are >>spam. Can that facility be configured so that if the format (package >>name, version, etc) is not followed; the b

Re: Spam on this list

2005-09-05 Thread Jesús M. Navarro
Hi, Wouter: El Lunes, 05 Septiembre 2005 19:52, Wouter Verhelst escribió: [...] > > "spam", as in, unsolicited bulk email, was named after a particular > brand of corned beef. See http://www.spam.com/ Not exactly. Spam, as unsolicited bulk email, was named after a particular Monty Python's Fly

Re: Spam on this list

2005-09-05 Thread Wouter Verhelst
On Mon, Sep 05, 2005 at 07:42:47PM +0200, Michelle Konzack wrote: > Hi Matt, > Am 2005-09-05 15:54:47, schrieb Matthew Garrett: > > Michelle Konzack <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > If the SPAM-Filter of Debian fails, you will shot yourself... > > > I think, the filter trash around 99% of the

Re: Spam on this list

2005-09-05 Thread Michelle Konzack
Hi Matt, Am 2005-09-05 15:54:47, schrieb Matthew Garrett: > Michelle Konzack <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > If the SPAM-Filter of Debian fails, you will shot yourself... > > I think, the filter trash around 99% of the SPAM. > > That should be "spam" - "SPAM" is a trademark of Hormel Foods > Co

Re: Spam on this list

2005-09-05 Thread John Hasler
Matthew Garrett writes: > No, Hormel only claim the capitalised form. In capitalised form it's a > clear reference to the food product, and as such is potentially > infringing under various circumstances. I'm quite certain that if you brought out a brand of canned pork under the label "spam" that

Re: Spam on this list

2005-09-05 Thread Matthew Garrett
John Hasler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Matthew Garrett writes: >> That should be "spam" - "SPAM" is a trademark of Hormel Foods >> Corporation. > > Only when used to sell food (in which case "spam" would also infringe the > mark). No, Hormel only claim the capitalised form. In capitalised form

Re: Spam on this list

2005-09-05 Thread John Hasler
Matthew Garrett writes: > That should be "spam" - "SPAM" is a trademark of Hormel Foods > Corporation. Only when used to sell food (in which case "spam" would also infringe the mark). -- John Hasler -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact

Re: Spam on this list

2005-09-05 Thread Petter Reinholdtsen
[Michelle Konzack] > Are you happy ? Sure, I am happy. :) > If the SPAM-Filter of Debian fails, you will shot yourself... I > think, the filter trash around 99% of the SPAM. I will? I do not know if gmane uses the debian spamfilters, but it seem to do quite a good job filtering out spam. :) I

Re: Spam on this list

2005-09-05 Thread Matthew Garrett
Michelle Konzack <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > If the SPAM-Filter of Debian fails, you will shot yourself... > I think, the filter trash around 99% of the SPAM. That should be "spam" - "SPAM" is a trademark of Hormel Foods Corporation. -- Matthew Garrett | [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE,

Re: Spam on this list

2005-09-05 Thread Michelle Konzack
Am 2005-09-01 20:20:39, schrieb Petter Reinholdtsen: > [Allyn, MarkX A] > > I have been noticing (and a bit irritated) at the spam I am seeing > > on this and some other email lists. The latest was a bit offensive > > for me in my work environment. > > The debian lists are not doing a great job in

Re: Spam on this list

2005-09-04 Thread David Moreno Garza
On Sun, 2005-09-04 at 18:56 +0200, Marc Haber wrote: > >And it needs money for a new dual Opteron mail server: > > http://gmane.org/donate.php> > > Please refrain from raising funds for other projects on Debian mailing > lists. Donations solicited here should go to Debian, not somewhere > else.

Re: Spam on this list

2005-09-04 Thread Marc Haber
On Thu, 01 Sep 2005 20:45:07 +0200, Romain Francoise <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >Petter Reinholdtsen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >> You might want to consider reading the lists using NNTP to gmane.org. >> I read several of the lists that way, and gmane filter out the spam >> for me. :) > >And it ne

Re: Spam on the BTS (was: Spam on this list)

2005-09-02 Thread Blars Blarson
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: >> Would it be acceptable to reject or drop more non-spam? (We could >I am uncomfortable with dropping any mail, but I encourage a sensible >policy to reject spam. Sorry if I did not make it clear before, we already are dumping 100,000 mess

Re: Spam on the BTS (was: Spam on this list)

2005-09-02 Thread Marco d'Itri
On Sep 01, Blars Blarson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Would it be acceptable to reject or drop more non-spam? (We could I am uncomfortable with dropping any mail, but I encourage a sensible policy to reject spam. -- ciao, Marco signature.asc Description: Digital signature

Re: Spam on this list

2005-09-02 Thread Nico Golde
Hi, * Pascal Hakim <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2005-09-02 10:20]: > On Thu, Sep 01, 2005 at 09:03:26PM +0200, Nico Golde wrote: > > What about using the msgid instead of the id so it would be > > possible to use your MUA to mark a mail as spam via a script > > which can be executed and calls the spam-repo

Re: Spam on this list

2005-09-02 Thread Stig Sandbeck Mathisen
"Roberto C. Sanchez" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > The problem is that being too restrictive on spam also means getting > more false positives. Therefore one must find out how much more restrictive one can be without getting too restrictive. :D -- Stig Sandbeck Mathisen -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, em

Re: Spam on this list

2005-09-01 Thread Blars Blarson
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: >On Thu, Sep 01, 2005 at 09:03:26PM +0200, Nico Golde wrote: >> What about using the msgid instead of the id so it would be >> possible to use your MUA to mark a mail as spam via a script >> which can be executed and calls the spam-report.pl

Re: Spam on this list

2005-09-01 Thread Josh Metzler
On Thursday 01 September 2005 06:42 pm, Colin Watson wrote: > On Thu, Sep 01, 2005 at 11:11:30AM -0700, Allyn, MarkX A wrote: > > I have also noticed tickets submitted to the bug facility that are > > spam. Can that facility be configured so that if the format (package > > name, version, etc) is no

Re: Spam on this list

2005-09-01 Thread Pascal Hakim
On Thu, Sep 01, 2005 at 09:03:26PM +0200, Nico Golde wrote: > What about using the msgid instead of the id so it would be > possible to use your MUA to mark a mail as spam via a script > which can be executed and calls the spam-report.pl script > just like sa-learn or something like this? > So it w

Re: Spam on this list

2005-09-01 Thread Colin Watson
On Thu, Sep 01, 2005 at 11:11:30AM -0700, Allyn, MarkX A wrote: > I have also noticed tickets submitted to the bug facility that are > spam. Can that facility be configured so that if the format (package > name, version, etc) is not followed; the bug will not be emailed out > to the lists? That's

Re: Spam on the BTS (was: Spam on this list)

2005-09-01 Thread Blars Blarson
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: >I have been noticing (and a bit irritated) at the spam I am seeing >on this and some other email lists. Others have commented on this, I have little to add to this part. >I have also noticed tickets submitted to the bug facility that are

Re: Spam on this list

2005-09-01 Thread Nico Golde
Hi, * Petter Reinholdtsen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2005-09-01 20:42]: > [Allyn, MarkX A] > > I have been noticing (and a bit irritated) at the spam I am seeing > > on this and some other email lists. The latest was a bit offensive > > for me in my work environment. > > The debian lists are not doing a

Re: Spam on this list

2005-09-01 Thread Romain Francoise
Petter Reinholdtsen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > You might want to consider reading the lists using NNTP to gmane.org. > I read several of the lists that way, and gmane filter out the spam > for me. :) And it needs money for a new dual Opteron mail server: http://gmane.org/donate.php> --

Re: Spam on this list

2005-09-01 Thread Petter Reinholdtsen
[Allyn, MarkX A] > I have been noticing (and a bit irritated) at the spam I am seeing > on this and some other email lists. The latest was a bit offensive > for me in my work environment. The debian lists are not doing a great job in blocking spam. You might want to consider reading the lists usi

Re: Spam on this list

2005-09-01 Thread Roberto C. Sanchez
On Thu, Sep 01, 2005 at 11:11:30AM -0700, Allyn, MarkX A wrote: > Hello: > > I have been noticing (and a bit irritated) at the spam I am seeing > on this and some other email lists. The latest was a bit offensive > for me in my work environment. > Tell me about it. > I am curious; is the email l

Spam on this list

2005-09-01 Thread Allyn, MarkX A
Hello: I have been noticing (and a bit irritated) at the spam I am seeing on this and some other email lists. The latest was a bit offensive for me in my work environment. I am curious; is the email list software that is used here configured to allow only registered list members to send email thr