Re: Simplifying bootstrap on circular-dependent packages

2011-11-17 Thread Chow Loong Jin
On 17/11/2011 22:24, Goswin von Brederlow wrote: > As said, the mangled symbol can differ between architectures. So if you > take the symbol from one architecture then you need to demangle it there > and mangle it again on the target architecture. Ah, my mistake, I forgot that the purpose of the f

Re: Simplifying bootstrap on circular-dependent packages #2

2011-11-17 Thread John D. Hendrickson and Sara Darnell
i might say "i once saw that using linuxrc is a powerful way to mount boot and root disk sets of any kernel-supported media, but in the end grub and tfpt is wiser" i might ask "are you rolling debian on mult. arches locally" ? if so debian does not need change if you are? and ranlib issues?

Re: Simplifying bootstrap on circular-dependent packages

2011-11-17 Thread John D. Hendrickson and Sara Darnell
s? I'm unsure why you [need to / did] edit libs. I've done so by hand down to the asm level and with lib managers too - and with just shell scripts as libs runtime :) But what are you doing? And what are you filing for? * To: debian-devel@lists.debian.org * Subject: Simplify

Re: Simplifying bootstrap on circular-dependent packages

2011-11-17 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
Chow Loong Jin writes: > On 16/11/2011 18:12, Goswin von Brederlow wrote: >> [...] >> How do you intend to build that fake lib? >> >> I guess it comes down to getting a list of symbols on an existing >> architecture (or from the symbols file?), creating a "void symbol;" stub >> for each and then

Re: Simplifying bootstrap on circular-dependent packages

2011-11-16 Thread Chow Loong Jin
On 16/11/2011 18:12, Goswin von Brederlow wrote: > [...] > How do you intend to build that fake lib? > > I guess it comes down to getting a list of symbols on an existing > architecture (or from the symbols file?), creating a "void symbol;" stub > for each and then building a fake lib for the targ

Re: Simplifying bootstrap on circular-dependent packages

2011-11-16 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
Daniel Ruoso writes: > I have been thinking about the bootstrapping of pakages lately. I am > involved in bootstrapping a partial system -- no kernel and no libc -- > for some architectures for internal use. And I just thought that we > could use one trick to help in the bootstrap of packages tha

Re: Simplifying bootstrap on circular-dependent packages

2011-11-08 Thread Igor Pashev
Hi, In my humble experience I just used debian/shlibs.local :-) 05.11.2011 01:30, Daniel Ruoso пишет: I have been thinking about the bootstrapping of pakages lately. I am involved in bootstrapping a partial system -- no kernel and no libc -- for some architectures for internal use. And I just t

Re: Simplifying bootstrap on circular-dependent packages

2011-11-05 Thread Josselin Mouette
Le vendredi 04 novembre 2011 à 17:30 -0400, Daniel Ruoso a écrit : > The basic idea is creating "dummy libraries" that would serve for the > linking but that had no code on it. This would allow the linking to > happen -- of course this only helps in the case where the build > process doesn't run a

Simplifying bootstrap on circular-dependent packages

2011-11-04 Thread Daniel Ruoso
I have been thinking about the bootstrapping of pakages lately. I am involved in bootstrapping a partial system -- no kernel and no libc -- for some architectures for internal use. And I just thought that we could use one trick to help in the bootstrap of packages that depend on other shared librar