Re: SSH never free

1999-10-06 Thread Herbert Xu
Marco d'Itri <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Oct 02, Herbert Xu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > >The patent makes it non-free, so does the new license. > Really? In my country RSA is not patented, why should I care about what > happens in someone else country? Please have a look at our policy. -

Re: SSH never free

1999-10-05 Thread Marco d'Itri
On Oct 02, Herbert Xu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >The patent makes it non-free, so does the new license. Really? In my country RSA is not patented, why should I care about what happens in someone else country? -- ciao, Marco

LZW patent (was: SSH never free)

1999-10-04 Thread Nick Moffitt
Quoting Bob Nielsen: > Does anyone know when the LZW patent expires? According to http://www.patents.ibm.com/details?pn=US04558302__ it was awarded on June 20, 1983. This means that it will expire on June 20 or 21, 2003. -- ((lambda (x) (list x (list (quote quote) x))) (quote (lambda (x

Re: SSH never free

1999-10-03 Thread Bob Nielsen
On Sat, Oct 02, 1999 at 11:57:07PM -0700, Joseph Carter wrote: > On Sun, Oct 03, 1999 at 08:54:48AM +1000, Craig Sanders wrote: > > PS: the RSA patent expires in 2001 (or is it 2002?), anyway. > > 20 September 2000. Does anyone know when the LZW patent expires? -- Bob Nielsen I

Re: SSH never free

1999-10-03 Thread Joseph Carter
On Sun, Oct 03, 1999 at 08:54:48AM +1000, Craig Sanders wrote: > PS: the RSA patent expires in 2001 (or is it 2002?), anyway. 20 September 2000. -- Joseph Carter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Debian GNU/Linux developer GnuPG: 2048g/3F9C2A43 - 20F6 2261 F185 7A3E 79FC 44F9 8FF7 D7A3 DCF9 DAB3

Re: SSH never free

1999-10-03 Thread Nicolás Lichtmaier
> > > [ RSA is no longer included. ] > > > [ IDEA is no longer included. ] > > IDEA was the only part of ssh that made it non-free, prohibiting > > commercial use. > Wrong, RSA makes it non-free, and so does their license. Wrong, RSA makes it non-us. I can freely use RSA here.

Re: SSH never free

1999-10-02 Thread Craig Sanders
On Sat, Oct 02, 1999 at 10:06:24AM +1000, Herbert Xu wrote: > They use libssl, which begs the question why isn't libssl in > non-US/non-free? i thought that only copyright/license and *not* patent issues determined whether we considered something to be free or non-free. e.g. libssl is completely

Re: SSH never free

1999-10-02 Thread James Troup
Herbert Xu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > They use libssl, which begs the question why isn't libssl in non-US/non-free? Uh, because I keep forgetting. I've been meaning to do that since Guy split non-US up... I guess I'll go file a bug against ftp.debian.org. -- James

Re: SSH never free

1999-10-02 Thread Edward Betts
Joel Klecker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > If we step into the "patents make something non-free" trap, then we > probably have a lot of things in main that should be moved to > non-free because they technically infringe on someone's stupid patent. Living in the UK, where there are currently no so

Re: SSH never free

1999-10-02 Thread Herbert Xu
Joel Klecker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > At 10:06 +1000 1999-10-02, Herbert Xu wrote: >>They use libssl, which begs the question why isn't libssl in non-US/non-free? > Uh, because it isn't non-free? Here's a quote from the policy: `Non-free' contains packages which are not compliant with t

Re: SSH never free

1999-10-02 Thread Joel Klecker
At 10:06 +1000 1999-10-02, Herbert Xu wrote: They use libssl, which begs the question why isn't libssl in non-US/non-free? Uh, because it isn't non-free? If we step into the "patents make something non-free" trap, then we probably have a lot of things in main that should be moved to non-free beca

Re: SSH never free

1999-10-02 Thread Herbert Xu
Jason Gunthorpe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On 1 Oct 1999, James Troup wrote: >> [ RSA is no longer included. ] > Wait wait, doesn't this mean that ssh RSA authentication is gone as well?? > Did they replace it with DSS/DH or what? IMHO ssh would cease to be very > usefull as a security tool wi

Re: SSH never free

1999-10-01 Thread Ryan Murray
On Fri, Oct 01, 1999 at 05:39:12PM -0400, Ben Collins wrote: > On Fri, Oct 01, 1999 at 02:16:03PM -0700, Ryan Murray wrote: > > > restrictive); see below for details. > > > > > > [ RSA is no longer included. ] > > > [ IDEA is no longer included. ] > > > > IDEA was the only part of ssh that made i

Re: SSH never free

1999-10-01 Thread Sean 'Shaleh' Perry
On 01-Oct-99 Jason Gunthorpe wrote: > > On 1 Oct 1999, James Troup wrote: > >> [ RSA is no longer included. ] > > Wait wait, doesn't this mean that ssh RSA authentication is gone as well?? > Did they replace it with DSS/DH or what? IMHO ssh would cease to be very > usefull as a security tool wi

Re: SSH never free

1999-10-01 Thread Ben Collins
On Fri, Oct 01, 1999 at 02:16:03PM -0700, Ryan Murray wrote: > > restrictive); see below for details. > > > > [ RSA is no longer included. ] > > [ IDEA is no longer included. ] > > IDEA was the only part of ssh that made it non-free, prohibiting > commercial use. Wrong, RSA makes it non-free, an

Re: SSH never free

1999-10-01 Thread Jason Gunthorpe
On 1 Oct 1999, James Troup wrote: > [ RSA is no longer included. ] Wait wait, doesn't this mean that ssh RSA authentication is gone as well?? Did they replace it with DSS/DH or what? IMHO ssh would cease to be very usefull as a security tool without a public key mechism, not to mention that exis

Re: SSH never free

1999-10-01 Thread Ryan Murray
On Fri, Oct 01, 1999 at 09:52:42PM +0100, James Troup wrote: > > I am pretty sure that SSH was never free software. Could you show > > me the license on the version that they started with? > > -&<-&<-&<-&<-&< > This file is part of the

Re: SSH never free

1999-10-01 Thread James Troup
Richard Stallman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > I am pretty sure that SSH was never free software. Could you show > me the license on the version that they started with? -&<-&<-&<-&<-&< This file is part of the ssh software, Copyright (c

SSH never free

1999-10-01 Thread Richard Stallman
I am pretty sure that SSH was never free software. Could you show me the license on the version that they started with? Is there any chance that you could put me in touch with the OpenBSD people who are working on this?